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    Talking with FerociouslySteph, Controversy & Identity

    en-usAugust 28, 2020

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    • Discussing the emotional toll of harassment on public figures on TwitchHarassment on Twitch can lead to anxiety, stress, and emotional taxation for public figures. It's important to empathize, understand, and support individuals facing harassment, and to recognize that meme culture can sometimes go beyond harmless fun and become harmful.

      Being a public figure, especially on a platform like Twitch, can come with immense scrutiny and harassment, which can be emotionally taxing and lead to anxiety and stress. This was evident in the conversation between the interviewer and the guest, who discussed their experience as a member of Twitch's Safety Advisory Council and the harassment they faced due to their identity and opinions. The guest shared that they had been continuously harassed for months, despite the incidents happening several months ago, and felt the weight of being turned into a meme and facing calls for their termination. The interviewer empathized with the guest's experience and acknowledged that while meme culture is a part of Twitch, the harassment the guest faced went beyond that and was harmful. The conversation also touched on the importance of authentic representation and the role of the Safety Advisory Council in shaping Twitch's community guidelines. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of empathy, understanding, and support in dealing with harassment and the emotional toll it can take on individuals.

    • Voice chat in gaming: An advantage and a disadvantageRaising awareness and promoting alternative communication methods can help reduce harassment and abuse in voice chat gaming.

      Voice chat in competitive gaming can be a significant advantage due to the high density of information it provides through tactical callouts. However, using one's voice in pickup groups can expose various aspects of identity, making individuals vulnerable to disproportionate abuse and harassment. This issue is particularly prevalent towards female gamers or those with identifiable voices. To mitigate this, raising awareness and promoting alternative communication methods, such as pings and prefabricated voice lines, can help reduce the disadvantage experienced by those whose voices may be less respected. Ultimately, voice chat should remain an option in competitive gaming, but efforts should be made to make other communication methods more robust and effective.

    • Addressing toxicity in gaming communitiesFocus on changing individuals' behaviors, identify root causes, and promote inclusivity to make gaming environments more welcoming for all

      Addressing toxicity in gaming communities is crucial, and it's essential to focus on changing individuals' behaviors rather than removing features like voice chat, which can be seen as a band-aid solution. The root cause of women being treated differently in gaming needs to be identified and tackled. The presence of internalized biases, even among those who consider themselves open-minded, is a complex issue that requires awareness and understanding. The goal should be to make gaming environments more inclusive, enabling more women to excel in competitive titles and reducing the pressure they face to prove themselves. The timeline discussed highlighted a significant backlash against a trans woman in the gaming community, which underscores the importance of addressing toxicity and fostering a more welcoming environment for all gamers.

    • Online harassment and targeting of individualsHateful groups exist online and can compromise individuals' safety and values, highlighting the importance of addressing the root causes of hate and creating inclusive online communities.

      The internet can be a dangerous place, especially for individuals who identify differently or hold unpopular opinions. The speaker shares her experience of being targeted by hate groups, resulting in organized harassment and threats to her safety. This level of harassment forced her to question her ability to create a safe space online, compromising her values and voice. It's important to recognize that sometimes people are judged based on their identity or representation, but it's crucial to challenge the fairness of such judgments. The speaker's story serves as a reminder that hateful groups exist, and it's essential to address the root causes of hate and work towards creating inclusive online communities.

    • Determining Fair vs Unfair Judgments in Online HarassmentContext and revelations from the harasser are crucial in determining fairness of judgments. Personal experiences and intentions matter, but timing and realization of ideas can also impact perception.

      Understanding the difference between unfair and fair judgments can be challenging, especially when dealing with online harassment. Individuals cannot always know the intentions behind someone's actions towards them. The context and revelations from the harasser are crucial in determining whether the judgment is fair or not. The speaker shares their personal experience of being unfairly judged and harassed, despite believing that if people knew them personally, they would not hate them. The Trust and Safety Council announcement on Twitch led to a wave of harassment towards the speaker, and they feel that the impact of the council could have been greater if it had been given more time to accomplish its goals. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of keeping one's perspectives and ideas private until they have been fully realized, as disclosing them too early can diminish their power.

    • The Danger of Inflammatory Language in Online CommunitiesBeing mindful of inflammatory language in online communities is crucial to prevent the normalization of harmful ideologies and potential radicalization of individuals.

      The use of inflammatory language, even in a joking or trolling context, can have serious consequences and potentially contribute to the normalization of harmful ideologies. The speaker in this conversation expressed concern about the presence of hate speech and radical ideologies in online communities, particularly in gaming communities. They acknowledged that some individuals may use such language as a form of trolling, but also recognized that some people hold these beliefs sincerely. The speaker argued that leaving room for such language can be dangerous, as it can expose people to harmful ideas and potentially lead to their radicalization. They also discussed the importance of being intolerant of intolerance and judging individuals based on their impact on others, rather than allowing them to exist without consequence if they are causing harm to others. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of being mindful of the language we use and the potential consequences of our words, particularly in online communities.

    • Misunderstandings in online conversations can lead to negative reactionsBe mindful of your words and consider the context to avoid misunderstandings and negative reactions in online conversations.

      The use of language and context can lead to misunderstandings and misinterpretations, especially in online conversations. The speaker in this discussion mentioned an instance where her words were taken out of context and led to a significant backlash. She used the example of a VR chat where she called out some individuals for their behavior, but the use of the word "most" in her statement led others to believe she was making a generalization about all gamers. The speaker emphasized that she did not intend to make such a statement and was trying to refer to her specific chat room. However, due to the power of perception and the ease with which information can be spread online, her words were twisted and amplified, leading to a negative public reaction. This experience highlights the importance of clear communication and the potential consequences of misinterpreted words. It also underscores the need for empathy and understanding when engaging in online conversations, as well as the importance of considering the context in which statements are made.

    • Exploring Identity Through Furry and Transhumanist CommunitiesSteph identifies with furry and transhumanist communities, finding a strong connection due to their shared experiences of marginalization. Furries explore their natural animalistic side, while transhumanists desire to upgrade their bodies. Both communities offer safe spaces for individuals seeking acceptance.

      Steph identifies with various communities, including the furry community in VRChat, and feels a strong connection to them due to her affinity for animal attributes. She also identifies as transhumanist, desiring to transform her body in some way to align with her identity. The furry community is a safe space for many queer individuals, and both communities share a commonality in being societal outcasts. Being a furry involves wishing for animal attributes, such as fur or a tail, and exploring one's natural animalistic side. The furry community is intertwined with the queer community due to their shared experiences of being marginalized. Transhumanism, on the other hand, involves upgrading one's biological form, but individuals remain human. Steph's responses were nuanced and did not provide definitive answers to all questions, but she shared her perspectives on these topics.

    • Exploring Queer Identities and Embracing AuthenticityExploring queer identities and expressing authenticity can lead to a greater sense of self-understanding and acceptance.

      The term "queer" serves as an umbrella term for any sexuality or gender identity that falls outside of the heteronormative and cisgendered norm. It encompasses a wide range of identities and experiences. The speaker also shared their personal connection to being a furry, desiring to embrace their primal side and express emotions freely. They expressed their belief that civilization can be restrictive and encouraged authenticity and self-expression. The conversation touched on the importance of understanding individual experiences and inspiring others to embrace their true selves. The speaker also shared their experience of transitioning and the sense of authenticity it brought them. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of embracing diversity, individuality, and authenticity.

    • Lesson learned: Importance of clear communication and understandingMisunderstandings can lead to negative consequences. Be mindful of context and impact of words and actions, and strive for empathy, compassion, and understanding.

      Words and actions can be easily taken out of context and misinterpreted, leading to misunderstandings, misrepresentations, and even harm. The speaker in this conversation learned this lesson the hard way when a joke about identifying as a deer was taken out of context and spread widely, leading to negative attention and even threats. This experience highlighted the importance of clear communication, context, and understanding, as well as the potential consequences of empowering negative actions or reactions. The speaker also reflected on the role of media and the public in amplifying and perpetuating misunderstandings, and the importance of fact-checking and critical thinking. Ultimately, the experience served as a reminder to be mindful of the impact of words and actions, and to strive for greater empathy, compassion, and understanding in all interactions.

    • Understanding Trans Experiences: Coping Mechanisms and EmotionsTrans experiences involve feelings of dysphoria and euphoria, coping mechanisms like detachment, and ongoing challenges including threats and doxxing. Empathy and understanding are essential for supporting individuals through their personal journeys.

      The individual discussed in the conversation has faced significant threats and traumas, including doxxing and death threats, which have led them to a state of detachment and disassociation as a coping mechanism. They also shared their understanding of being trans, explaining that it involves feelings of dysphoria (a sense of unease or discomfort with one's body) and euphoria (a feeling of joy or happiness with one's body or gender expression). The conversation also touched upon the role of hormones in the trans experience. Despite the ongoing challenges, the individual emphasized the importance of chasing happiness and living one's best life. The conversation served as a reminder that everyone's experiences and coping mechanisms are unique, and understanding and empathy are crucial in supporting individuals through their personal journeys.

    • Comparing the experience of transitioning to finding clothes that fitTransitioning can bring emotional and sensory changes, but it's important to distinguish these from acceptance of identity and prioritize mental health

      The experience of transitioning and taking hormones can lead to profound emotional and sensory changes. For some individuals, these changes can bring about a greater understanding of their mental state and an increased emotional bandwidth. However, it can be challenging to distinguish these changes from the acceptance of one's identity. The speaker shares their perspective on transgender experiences by comparing it to feeling uncomfortable in clothes that don't fit and the relief of finding clothes that align with one's identity. They also express their conflicted feelings towards the idea of physical transformations, acknowledging the importance of mental health and the potential for false senses of identity. Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes that the decision to transition should be based on the belief that it will improve one's life.

    • Understanding our true self goes beyond superficial identifiersEmbrace your human essence, strive for happiness through calmness and contentment, and approach body dysmorphia with sensitivity and understanding

      Our true self goes beyond gender, profession, or age, and the closer we get to understanding and embracing this, the more we connect with our human essence. However, as a psychiatrist, there's a fine line between identity exploration and disorders like body dysmorphia, where feelings can significantly impact one's perception of self. Regarding happiness, it's a complex concept, and while chasing positive feelings isn't the answer, striving for calmness, tranquility, contentment, and peace is a worthwhile pursuit. The quest for happiness doesn't mean neglecting the present or accepting a bad situation; instead, it's about acknowledging where we are to better understand where we want to go. As for body dysmorphia, it's a complex condition where individuals are excessively preoccupied with perceived flaws in their appearance, leading to significant distress and impairment in daily life. The yogic side of the speaker advocates that feelings should not define our identity, but it's essential to approach this issue with sensitivity and understanding, as mental health challenges like body dysmorphia can cause significant suffering.

    • Feelings vs Identity: A Complex IssueFeelings provide insights but don't define identity or actions. Allow self-expression, but consider potential consequences for personal growth.

      While feelings can provide valuable insights and should be acknowledged, they may not always accurately define one's identity or determine actions. The speaker expresses support for allowing individuals to express themselves and find joy, but also raises concerns about potential negative messages or consequences. This complex issue requires thoughtful consideration and balance between self-expression and personal growth. Ultimately, the speaker advocates for a nuanced approach that respects individual autonomy while promoting healthy self-perception and self-improvement.

    • Managing Emotions and Avoiding Harm to OthersUnderstand emotions, appreciate their role, but avoid letting them harm others or define our identity. Art is a source of joy and purpose.

      While it's important to be aware of and manage our emotions, it's equally important not to let them determine our identity or harm others. The speaker shares their personal experiences with being a public figure and the negative reactions they've faced, which have left them feeling conflicted. They also discuss the complexity of emotions, particularly those rooted in hurt and pain, and how they can lead to harmful actions towards others. Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding and appreciating the role of emotions in our lives, while also recognizing the need to use them in a way that doesn't harm others. Additionally, they suggest that the human ability to create and appreciate art is a fundamental aspect of our existence and a source of joy and purpose.

    • Balancing emotions and identityBe mindful of the impact of emotions on others and recognize that true identity comes from within, not just feelings.

      While it's natural to seek happiness and positive feelings, it's important to be mindful of the impact of our actions on others and not let our feelings define our identity. The speaker shares her love for the excitement and joy that comes with new relationships and making people happy, but acknowledges the need to be careful not to hurt others in the process. She also reflects on her past experiences of using humor, specifically puns, as a distraction from deeper conversations and self-worth issues. Ultimately, she emphasizes the importance of being true to oneself and recognizing that what we are, not just what we wish for, shapes our identity. The struggle lies in knowing when to give in to our feelings and when to overcome them, and this is a complex issue that requires thoughtful consideration. The speaker acknowledges the complexity of this issue and the importance of finding a balance between embracing our feelings and staying true to our core identity.

    • Our humanity transcends labelsAppreciate journeys, respect individuality, and recognize humanity's significance beyond labels

      Our identities, whether based on gender, profession, or any other label, do not define our humanity. From a yoga perspective, focusing too much on these labels can be a mistake. Steph shared her personal journey of grappling with her identity as a male yogi and how she came to realize that her humanity transcends these labels. If someone is considering quitting something, Steph advised appreciating the journey and the path taken, but if it's time to move on, it's important to acknowledge that and make a choice to either try harder or let go. In the end, it's essential to respect each other as individuals, beyond any labels or disagreements. So, in essence, our humanity is more significant than any identity we may hold.

    • Communicate effectively with empathy and understandingEmpathize with others' perspectives, engage in dialogue, and reflect on our own behavior to foster positive online interactions.

      Effective communication and understanding require active listening and empathy towards others' perspectives, even when we disagree. Toxicity and harassment on the internet are complex issues, and it's essential to resist the urge to ignore or retaliate against those who engage in such behavior. Instead, attempting to engage in dialogue can lead to a better understanding of their motivations and potentially defuse the situation. However, it's crucial to remember that everyone's experiences and reasons for behaving the way they do are unique and not to paint them with broad strokes. Furthermore, taking a moment for self-reflection and mindfulness can help us better connect with ourselves and others, fostering a more positive online environment.

    • Beyond our thoughts and feelings, we are the experiencersWe are not defined by our emotions, accomplishments, or failures. Instead, we are the observers of these experiences, allowing us to find peace and acceptance in our true nature.

      Beyond our thoughts, feelings, and identities, there is a fundamental essence of who we are that remains constant. We are not our emotions, our accomplishments, or our failures. Instead, we are the experiencers of these things. By focusing on our present experience and observing our thoughts and feelings without judgment, we can gain a deeper understanding of ourselves and find solace in our true nature. We may identify with various labels and qualities, but they do not define us. Ultimately, we are simply beings who exist and experience the world around us. This understanding can bring a sense of peace and acceptance, allowing us to navigate life's ups and downs with greater ease and resilience.

    • Unjustified mistreatment vs constructive criticismRecognize the difference between fair criticism and unjust attacks, and offer support when someone is unfairly targeted.

      Despite acknowledging that we all make mistakes and may deserve some criticism at times, the intensity and unfairness of the treatment someone is experiencing goes beyond what seems justified. The speaker expresses her disbelief that the person, Steph, could have done or said anything that warrants such extreme reactions from others. The situation seems unimaginably harsh, and the speaker offers her support and well-wishes to Steph. This discussion highlights the importance of understanding the difference between constructive criticism and unjustified mistreatment. It's crucial to maintain perspective and offer support when someone is unjustly targeted.

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