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    Tempur-Pedic: Bobby Trussell (2018)

    enJuly 06, 2020
    How does Amica Insurance prioritize human connection?
    What pivot did Bobby Trussell make in his career?
    Why do today's business travelers seek personal experiences?
    What role did persistence play in the pillow sales success?
    How did investors view Tempur-Pedic's business potential?

    Podcast Summary

    • Putting People First Leads to Business SuccessEmpathy and customer focus can lead to successful businesses in various industries, from insurance to technology and beyond. Prioritizing human connection and personalized experiences can make all the difference.

      Empathy and customer focus can lead to successful businesses in various industries. Amica Insurance prioritizes human connection and personalized policies, making insurance feel less transactional. Similarly, we saw how Bobby Trussell pivoted from horse racing to memory foam with Tempur-Pedic, focusing on understanding customers' needs and delivering a product that caters to them. Today's business travelers also prioritize personal experiences, as seen with the Delta Sky Miles Platinum Business American Express Card. Additionally, organizations like the National Security Agency offer innovative opportunities for individuals to make a difference while enjoying perks and a supportive work environment. So, whether it's insurance, technology, or even mattresses, putting people first can lead to remarkable success.

    • From odd jobs to unexpected opportunitiesUnconventional experiences and backgrounds can lead to unexpected opportunities and successes

      Bobby Trussell, the founder of Tempur-Pedic, came from an unexpected background. Born and raised in Milwaukee, he grew up working odd jobs and developing a passion for horse racing. After college, he pursued a career in the horse racing industry, but ended up sleeping on springs at Belmont Park until the actual mattresses arrived. This experience, however, was the catalyst for his future success. When he discovered memory foam in Sweden, he saw its potential and took a huge risk to launch it in the US, despite having no prior experience in the mattress industry. This story serves as a reminder that sometimes, our unconventional experiences and backgrounds can lead us to unexpected opportunities and successes.

    • From hot walker to horse trainerDetermination and a focus on learning new skills led this individual from a low-paying job to becoming a successful horse trainer, even during industry recessions.

      Determination and a focus on learning new skills led this individual from being a hot walker earning $75 a week, to becoming a groom, and eventually achieving his goal of becoming a trainer in the horse racing industry. His career took off when he moved to Lexington, Kentucky, and got a job at Gainesway Farm, where his expertise in pedigrees proved valuable. However, in the late 1980s, he and his business partner started their own company, Stallant Management Services and Thoroughbred Advisory Group, but unfortunately, timed it poorly as the horse industry went into recession, leaving them deeply in debt. Despite this setback, they managed to weather the financial storm without declaring bankruptcy. Throughout his journey, this individual remained single-minded in his pursuit of success in the horse racing industry.

    • Staying positive and open to opportunities during hardshipsEmbrace failures, stay positive, and be open to new opportunities as they may lead to unexpected successes

      During a financially challenging period in his life, Bobbie relied on his faith and openness to opportunities to turn his situation around. He went from being deeply in debt and struggling to pay bills, to starting a company called Nion, selling a product that didn't work out due to communication issues with the Swedish manufacturer. However, this led him to Sweden where he met Michael Magnuson, who introduced him to Tempur-Pedic, a game-changing product that would transform his life and business. Despite the initial failure with Nion, Bobbie's yes attitude and determination ultimately led him to success with Tempur-Pedic. This story highlights the importance of staying positive, being open to new opportunities, and having faith during difficult times.

    • From Space to Sleep: NASA Foam's Unexpected TransformationNASA's temperature-sensitive foam, repurposed into a mattress, brought relief to people with back pain and bed sores, leading to a successful business after unexpected discovery and strategic investment.

      NASA's temperature-sensitive, three-inch foam, originally developed for astronauts, was repurposed into a mattress after discovering its benefits for pressure relief and pain alleviation. This foam, which had slow comeback properties, was later improved by a Danish company, Danfoam, and marketed as a mattress in Sweden. The inventors were surprised by its potential use as a mattress and its positive impact on people with back pain and bed sores. The speaker, after experiencing the mattress firsthand, became interested and secured exclusive North American distribution rights by raising $500,000 and selling 10,000 mattresses in the first year. This story highlights the unexpected benefits and successful repurposing of a NASA invention into a mattress business.

    • Partnering with a horse trainer for a mattress business due to personal connection and desire for controlSwedish entrepreneur took a risk partnering with a horse trainer in US mattress business due to personal connection and need for control, securing funding through past investors based on unique product property

      Michael Magnuson, a Swedish entrepreneur, took a significant risk by partnering with an American horse trainer to sell memory foam mattresses in the US, despite having no prior experience in the industry. The reason for this seemingly implausible decision was a personal connection and the desire for control. Magnuson had met the horse trainer in Sweden, where they shared a passion for horses. This connection gave Magnuson trust and comfort, allowing him to overlook the trainer's lack of industry knowledge. Additionally, Magnuson wanted to maintain control over the business and its direction, which he believed he could achieve by partnering with someone he knew well. To fund the venture, Magnuson turned to previous investors who had supported his horse-related businesses, despite their past losses. The investors were swayed by Magnuson's personal appeal and the unique product, which had a temperature-sensitive property that kept the mattress from melting in transit. This property impressed potential investors and helped secure the necessary funding.

    • The Importance of Determination and Resilience in BusinessBusiness success requires determination and resilience, even during tough times. Creative solutions, persistence, and adaptability can help overcome challenges, while technology like Atlassian's AI software can boost productivity and inform decisions.

      Determination and resilience are key to business success, even when things don't go as planned. Bobby Trussell, the founder of a memory foam mattress pad business in the early 1990s, faced significant challenges when he went through his initial investment in just a few months. Despite this setback, he didn't give up. Instead, he found creative ways to continue operating, such as reaching out to Uncle Bill for additional funds and refining his marketing strategy to target chiropractors. The story of Bobby Trussell highlights the importance of persistence and adaptability in the face of adversity. Moreover, the use of technology, like Atlassian's AI-powered software, can help businesses make informed decisions, boost productivity, and accomplish what would otherwise be impossible alone. Companies like Atlassian are leading the way in using AI to transform teamwork and accelerate work, making it a valuable tool for business success.

    • Creative solution to financial strugglesOffering a container in exchange for ownership kept Tempur-Pedic going, leading to major breakthroughs and expansion through innovative tactics like mailing free pillows to chiropractors and securing a retail presence.

      During Tempur-Pedic's early days, they faced financial struggles and couldn't pay for a container of their mattress pads. Instead of giving up, they offered the container in exchange for 10% ownership in the company. This creative solution allowed them to keep going and eventually led to a major breakthrough. The chiropractors they were working with suggested making a pillow from the material and offered to help design it. Tempur-Pedic mailed 500 free pillows to chiropractors, resulting in significant sales growth and the establishment of a distribution channel. However, to expand further, they needed to get their products into stores. Despite being broke, they approached a store at a mall and successfully sold their pillow to them, marking the beginning of their retail presence. This story illustrates the importance of creativity, persistence, and adaptability in overcoming business challenges.

    • Persistence pays off for unique pillow salesmanStay focused on product value and persist in communication for successful business partnerships

      Persistence and effective communication can lead to significant business opportunities. In this case, the speaker's determination to sell a unique pillow to Brookstone, despite initial rejections and obstacles, ultimately paid off. The company's CEO, Michael Magnuson, saw the value in the product's high-end positioning and unique selling proposition. However, the speaker had to demonstrate this value through consistent follow-up and demonstrations. Despite some tension and disagreements, the speaker and Magnuson built a successful partnership, leading to the sale of 500 pillows and the product becoming the hottest new item in Brookstone. The high price point of the pillow added cachet and differentiated it from competitors. This story highlights the importance of staying focused on the value proposition of a product and the power of persistence in business.

    • Persistence and adaptability led to success for memory foam pillow and mattress businessDespite challenges, customizing products, securing endorsements, and selling directly to consumers helped the memory foam pillow and mattress business grow from modest revenues to selling thousands per week. Strong brand messaging also differentiated the product.

      Persistence and adaptability were key factors in the success of the memory foam pillow and mattress business. Despite challenges, such as investors owning a significant portion of the company and initial struggles to sell mattresses in certain retailers, the company was able to find success by customizing products for the US market, securing endorsements from chiropractors, and eventually figuring out how to sell directly to consumers. Through these efforts, the company was able to grow from modest revenues to selling thousands of mattresses per week. Additionally, the use of a strong brand message, such as "if you have back pain, you got to have this mattress," helped to differentiate the product and appeal to consumers.

    • CEO's strategic advertising investment boosts sales and brand recognitionSmart advertising investments can help small businesses compete and grow, even with limited resources.

      Effective advertising and a unique product message can help a small business compete against industry giants. In the late 1990s, the CEO of Tempur-Pedic, a mattress company, paid $25,000 for advertising that could have cost him $6,000. This strategic investment led to increased sales and brand recognition, allowing Tempur-Pedic to challenge the dominance of the four S's (Sealy, Simmons, Serta, and Spring Air) in the US mattress market. Despite early financial struggles, the CEO sold equity to friends and family to keep the business going. In the early 2000s, Tempur-Pedic merged with its Swedish manufacturers to form a larger company and took outside investment from private equity firms. The sale allowed the Swedish partners to exit and gave the CEO a smaller percentage of a larger, more valuable company. Throughout this journey, the CEO's philosophy was to prioritize a smaller percentage of something big over full control of a smaller business.

    • Identifying and investing in profitable, well-managed companiesInvesting in successful businesses, even without active management involvement, can lead to profitable returns and successful exits.

      Successful business growth can come from identifying and investing in companies that are already profitable and well-managed, even if the investors don't plan to run the day-to-day operations. This was the case with Tempur-Pedic, where investors saw the potential in the high-end mattress company and let the CEO continue leading the business. The result was a highly profitable private equity deal and a successful public offering just a year later. Bobby, the CEO, was able to cash in on his success and move on to new ventures, demonstrating that even a lifelong passion can be set aside for a compelling business opportunity. This story also highlights the importance of convincing investors and the public market of the longevity and value of a product, especially when it challenges industry norms.

    • Starting a business with perseverance and a big visionSuccess often involves taking risks, having a big vision, and a bit of luck. Don't be afraid to start small with limited resources and keep pushing forward.

      Success often involves a combination of perseverance, taking risks, having a big vision, and sometimes, a bit of luck. Bobby Trussell, co-founder of Tempur-Pedic, shared his journey of starting a business and the role of luck in his success. He emphasized the importance of not being afraid to take risks and keeping a big vision, even when starting out with little resources. Trussell also acknowledged that success is not solely due to intelligence or skill but also due to luck and perseverance. The podcast episode also touched on the topic of reality TV shows and their failures, highlighting "The Swan" as an example of a good idea gone wrong. Overall, the discussion encourages listeners to keep trying, take risks, and believe in their big ideas, even if they don't always work out right away.

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    Episode 503: Shaan Puri (https://twitter.com/ShaanVP) sits down with Cody Ko (https://twitter.com/codyko) to talk about building the viral app I’d Cap That, his +$1M YouTube empire & partying with Elon Musk. Looking for episode 502? Check out Shaan’s Reaction to the Linda Yaccarin Interview on YouTube. Want to see more MFM? Subscribe to our YouTube channel here. Want MFM Merch? Check out our store here. Want to see the best clips from MFM? Subscribe to our clips channel here. — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Try Shepherd Out - https://www.supportshepherd.com/ • Shaan's Personal Assistant System - http://shaanpuri.com/remoteassistant • Power Writing Course - https://maven.com/generalist/writing • Small Boy Newsletter - https://smallboy.co/ • Daily Newsletter - https://www.shaanpuri.com/ Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com/ — Show Notes: (0:00) Intro (2:00) I’d Cap That hits #1 in the App Store (9:00) App developer to content creator (13:00) 1M views overnight (17:00) How to crush live shows (23:00) Get better at your craft (36:00) Tiny Beat Gang and making music videos (44:00) Frozen S’mores, Shark Tank for Creators, AI Thumbnail app (51:00) Going to Elon Musk’s house party — Links: • Vine - https://vine.co/ • Cody Ko YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/codyko • That’s Cringe - https://tinyurl.com/2adyejay • Cody’s Run Club - https://www.ko-official.com/ • Living with a Seal - https://tinyurl.com/wdjkj2je • Marquis Jetset - https://www.marquisjetset.com/ • Tiny Meat Gang - Keep Ya D*ck Fat (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - https://tinyurl.com/559w6pve • Tiny Meat Gang - Super Xan (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - https://tinyurl.com/57ks7yat • Tiny Meat Gang - Broke B*tch - https://tinyurl.com/pz8jya2p Past guests on My First Million include Rob Dyrdek, Hasan Minhaj, Balaji Srinivasan, Jake Paul, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Gary Vee, Lance Armstrong, Sophia Amoruso, Ariel Helwani, Ramit Sethi, Stanley Druckenmiller, Peter Diamandis, Dharmesh Shah, Brian Halligan, Marc Lore, Jason Calacanis, Andrew Wilkinson, Julian Shapiro, Kat Cole, Codie Sanchez, Nader Al-Naji, Steph Smith, Trung Phan, Nick Huber, Anthony Pompliano, Ben Askren, Ramon Van Meer, Brianne Kimmel, Andrew Gazdecki, Scott Belsky, Moiz Ali, Dan Held, Elaine Zelby, Michael Saylor, Ryan Begelman, Jack Butcher, Reed Duchscher, Tai Lopez, Harley Finkelstein, Alexa von Tobel, Noah Kagan, Nick Bare, Greg Isenberg, James Altucher, Randy Hetrick and more. — Other episodes you might enjoy: • #224 Rob Dyrdek - How Tracking Every Second of His Life Took Rob Drydek from 0 to $405M in Exits • #209 Gary Vaynerchuk - Why NFTS Are the Future • #178 Balaji Srinivasan - Balaji on How to Fix the Media, Cloud Cities & Crypto • #169 - How One Man Started 5, Billion Dollar Companies, Dan Gilbert's Empire, & Talking With Warren Buffett • ​​​​#218 - Why You Should Take a Think Week Like Bill Gates • Dave Portnoy vs The World, Extreme Body Monitoring, The Future of Apparel Retail, "How Much is Anthony Pompliano Worth?", and More • How Mr Beast Got 100M Views in Less Than 4 Days, The $25M Chrome Extension, and More