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    The 2024 Streaming Draft (live from SXSW)

    enMarch 12, 2024

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    • Exploring the Growth of Art Beets and Lyrics and the World of Streaming ServicesThe documentary 'Art Beets and Lyrics' highlights the evolution of a local art show into a cultural sensation, while the podcast episode delves into the complexities of choosing the best streaming services for the year.

      The documentary "Art Beets and Lyrics" on Hulu showcases the growth of a humble art show into a cultural phenomenon, with founders Jabari Graham and Dwayne W. Wright sharing their unique stories and Atlanta's influence. Meanwhile, in this podcast episode, the hosts discuss the ever-changing streaming world and play a draft game to determine the best streaming services for the year. Last year, Neil Epstein won with TikTok, Disney Bundle, YouTube TV with Sunday Ticket, Apple Music, and a friend's Plex server. This year, the game has been made more complicated, and the hosts will need audience help to determine the winner. Despite some light-hearted banter, the hosts are excited to discuss the current state of streaming services.

    • Discussing streaming services draft picksParticipants picked their preferred streaming services based on various categories like affordability, awards, 4K resolution, live TV, niche content, and wildcard options.

      The discussion revolved around a streaming services draft where participants had to pick a service and a category to fill. The categories included cheap, awards, 4K, live, niche, and wildcard. The rules were explained, and the participants, Neil, Alex, and David, made their picks. Neil went with YouTube Premium, Peacock, Netflix, Discovery Plus, Womp Womp, and Hulu with live TV. Alex chose Xbox Cloud Gaming, Netflix for 4K, and a wildcard pick of Go90 Scale of Doomstreaming services, ranking Netflix as a 40 on the scale. The conversation also touched upon the history of Go90, a failed streaming service by Verizon. The draft was meant to be competitive, and the participants showed their strategies and justifications for their picks.

    • TikTok's engagement with regulators backfired, leading to increased scrutinyDespite Apple TV+'s fewer Oscar wins, Apple's financial resources make it a significant player in the streaming industry. Speakers have personal investments in various streaming services, including Netflix and Apple TV+, and hold differing opinions on their profitability.

      TikTok's attempt to engage with regulators by encouraging users to call their representatives backfired spectacularly, leading to increased scrutiny and potential legislation against the app. Another key point is that Apple TV+, despite not having a large number of Oscar wins, is a significant player in the streaming industry due to Apple's vast financial resources. The speakers also shared their personal views on various streaming services and their investments in them. For instance, they have a Netflix show with significant investment from NBCUniversal, which is owned by Comcast, a company they have criticized in the past. They also watch Apple products and Apple TV+, and believe that Apple's movies may not be profitable despite their substantial investments.

    • Is Apple TV+ worth watching despite lackluster box office?Apple TV+ may not have impressive box office numbers, but its content's practical value and viewers' preferences make it worth watching.

      While Apple TV+ may not be making significant profits based on box office data, the content offered is considered good enough by some viewers to warrant watching, even in less-than-ideal circumstances. The consumer's decision to watch a movie or show is influenced by various factors such as convenience, availability, and personal preference. A more useful way to rate media content could be based on these practical considerations rather than traditional star ratings. For instance, determining whether a movie is worth watching during a flight or while waiting in line at Starbucks could provide more value to consumers than a simple star rating. Additionally, the rise of platforms like TikTok that offer content in shorter formats has changed the way people consume media, with some shows or movies being more suited to this format than others. Ultimately, the value of a streaming service lies not only in the quantity and quality of its content but also in its ability to cater to viewers' preferences and convenience.

    • Media consumption driven by personal interests and skepticismThe speaker values ads for relevant content but dislikes unsolicited ads on their Fire TV. Their preferences for specific shows and skepticism towards media bundles shape their media consumption habits.

      While the speaker is generally fine with ads, particularly when they're related to something they're interested in like football, they draw the line at unsolicited ads on their Fire TV. The speaker's preference for specific content, such as "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" and "Bluey," drives their media consumption choices. They also express reservations about media bundles, citing ease of access and potential pressure from companies as reasons for hesitation. The speaker's home theater setup and personal experiences with specific content shape their media consumption habits and preferences. Additionally, they express skepticism about the quality of certain media offerings, such as "The Descendants," and have strong opinions about the role of awards in evaluating media. Overall, the speaker's media consumption is driven by a combination of personal interests, experiences, and skepticism towards certain media offerings and business practices.

    • Affordable and important choice for niche content viewersPeacock offers affordability, live events, and exclusive content, making it a viable alternative to well-known streaming services for niche content viewers, especially those with entertainment backgrounds

      Peacock, the streaming platform, is an affordable and important choice for viewers, particularly those who enjoy niche content like "Parks and Recreation." Peacock's affordability, combined with its live events and exclusive content, makes it a viable alternative to more well-known streaming services like Netflix. Additionally, companies with entertainment backgrounds, like NBCUniversal which owns Peacock, may have an advantage in the streaming market as they focus on creating engaging content, rather than trying to recreate it algorithmically like some tech-focused competitors.

    • Sony's Merger of Crunchyroll and Funimation Causes ControversySony's merger of anime streaming giants Crunchyroll and Funimation eliminated digital purchases, causing controversy. HBO Max acknowledged Crunchyroll and attracted some viewers with its prettier logo.

      Sony owns both Crunchyroll and Funimation, which are major players in the anime streaming market. They merged the two companies and removed the option for digital purchases, causing some controversy. HBO Max, another streaming platform, has acknowledged Crunchyroll by hosting some of its content. The design of the tote bags given away at a conference influenced some attendees' decisions on which streaming service to support, with some preferring HBO Max for its prettier logo. Overall, the streaming landscape is constantly evolving, with companies merging, collaborating, and competing for viewers' attention.

    • Merger of HBO Max and AT&T: A Debt-Ridden Streaming ServiceDespite subpar content quality and financial struggles, many customers remain subscribed to HBO Max due to grandfathered-in plans. Speaker prefers ad-supported YouTube over HBO Max's paid version.

      The merger between HBO Max and AT&T, while once seen as a visionary move, has led to a bloated and debt-ridden streaming service. Despite this, many customers, including the speaker, are still subscribed and unable to leave due to grandfathered-in plans. The speaker shares his personal experience with the service and expresses his belief that even if the 4K option were available, it would not have been worth it due to the subpar quality of the content. The speaker also shares his thoughts on YouTube, expressing his preference for the ad-supported version. The discussion also touches upon the documentary "Art Beats in Lyrics" and its exploration of the origin stories of the founders and curators of the Art Beats in Lyrics art show in Atlanta.

    • Speaker's continued picks in draft competitionPassionately following one's interests and beliefs, even in a competitive context, is important.

      During a draft competition, the speaker, despite being in the lead, continues to make picks, even when it seems unnecessary or confusing to others. They justify their actions by mentioning their love for free ad-supported television and their belief in the sustainability of Criterion. The speaker also engages in playful banter with the other participants, trying to assert their dominance in the game. Despite the speaker's assertions, it is clear that they have already won the competition, and their continued picks may be seen as unnecessary or even disruptive. However, the speaker's passion for their choices and their willingness to stand by them highlights the importance of following one's interests and beliefs, even in a competitive context.

    • Exploring Favorite Streaming Services: YouTube TV, Channels App, and Paramount PlusThe speaker expresses his enthusiasm for diverse streaming options like YouTube TV, Channels App, and Paramount Plus, appreciating their UI and catering to his interests. He also highlights the history and evolution of CBS into a streaming platform, emphasizing the importance of quality content.

      The speaker is passionate about having access to a diverse range of television channels and content through various streaming services and apps. He specifically mentions YouTube TV, Channels app, and Paramount Plus as his favorites. He appreciates the development and UI of these services, and they cater to his interests. The speaker also touches upon the history of CBS and its transition from broadcast network to streaming platform, noting the challenges of competing in a saturated market. He expresses his love for shows like 60 Minutes and Leslie Stahl, emphasizing the importance of quality content for him. Ultimately, the speaker is excited about the future of streaming services and the endless possibilities they offer for viewers.

    • Sony's exclusive streaming service Bravia Core offers high-quality content but comes with unique challengesBravia Core is a niche streaming service for those seeking top-tier video quality, requiring a high bandwidth connection and constant monitoring, but offering access to exclusive Spider-Man movies and other content.

      Bravia Core, Sony's streaming service exclusive to select Sony TVs, offers high-quality content but comes with unique challenges. The service, which requires a high bandwidth connection, is only accessible via Wi-Fi or a USB to ethernet adapter. Despite the inconvenience, users seem to enjoy the unique experience, with access to Spider-Man movies and other content in pristine quality. However, the lack of an ethernet port on newer TV models and the need for constant monitoring of bit rates during playback add to the complexity of using the service. Overall, Bravia Core represents a niche yet dedicated streaming option for those willing to put in the extra effort for top-tier video quality.

    • Exploring New Content Platforms: From Netflix to TikTokStay updated on new content trends and platforms to effectively engage with audiences, whether it's Netflix, TikTok, or niche platforms like Motor Trend TV. Adapt to new formats like Instagram Reels to reach a wider audience.

      Content creation and consumption have evolved significantly, and it's essential to adapt to new platforms to reach audiences effectively. In the discussion, the speakers shared their experiences with various content platforms, from established ones like Netflix and Oscar-winning movies to newer ones like TikTok and Instagram Reels. They also talked about niche platforms like Motor Trend TV, which caters to car enthusiasts. David expressed his disdain for canceling subscriptions but eventually gave in to the pressure to create good content for new platforms. He compared the process to everyone else's hell and mentioned his newfound interest in Instagram Reels. The speakers also debated the definition of video content, discussing the persistence of vision and the differences between TikTok slideshows and Instagram Reels. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of staying updated on new content trends and platforms to engage with audiences effectively. Additionally, Constant Contact was mentioned as a marketing platform that can help businesses connect with their customers through various channels, including email, text, social media, and more.

    • Discovering Mubi's niche focus on Oscar-winning independent filmsMubi stands out by focusing on independent films with Oscar wins, offering a curated selection for consumers navigating the streaming landscape.

      During a discussion about various streaming services, the group discovered a new service called Mubi, which specializes in independent films that have won Oscars. The group was initially surprised by this niche focus, but appreciated the curated selection of award-winning content. The conversation also touched upon the challenges of navigating the vast array of streaming options and the importance of Oscar wins as a distinguishing factor for some services. While some services, like Netflix and Disney+, offer a wide range of content, Mubi's unique selling point is its focus on independent films with Oscar pedigrees. This conversation highlights the importance of understanding the unique value propositions of each streaming service and the role that awards can play in helping consumers make informed decisions.

    • Hulu and MoviePass: Long-shot Survivors in the Streaming Industry?Despite debates over their rankings, Hulu and MoviePass face challenges as long-term streaming survivors. TikTok's popularity among teens makes it a strong contender. The industry continues to evolve, with shorter content formats like Instagram Reels gaining traction.

      According to the discussion, Hulu and MoviePass are considered long-shot survivors in the streaming industry, with Hulu being particularly close to its end. TikTok, on the other hand, is seen as a strong contender due to its popularity among teens. The ranking of these platforms as 89, 88, and 87 respectively was a topic of debate, with Hulu being the most questioned due to its impending merger into Disney. The discussion also touched upon the idea of watching content in shorter formats, such as one-minute sections on Instagram Reels. Overall, the conversation suggested that the streaming landscape is constantly evolving, and only time will tell which platforms will persist.

    • A Lively Debate on Streaming ServicesEach person's streaming preferences depend on their unique needs and interests, with some prioritizing ad-supported services and others focusing on range and quality.

      During a discussion at South by Southwest, the speakers debated the merits of various streaming services. Neilie picked TikTok, Disney bundle, Sony Bravia core, YouTube TV with ads, and Motor Trend TV. David chose Apple TV+, Prime Video, Criterion Collection, and Instagram Reels with ads. The conversation was lively, with jokes and banter, but it became clear that each person had different preferences based on their needs and interests. Neilie emphasized the unparalleled range and quality of the services they chose, while David highlighted the ad-supported nature of his picks. The discussion also touched on the potential for copyright infringement and Chinese propaganda on TikTok. Ultimately, both speakers agreed that everyone has different streaming needs and there's no one-size-fits-all solution. The audience was encouraged to share their own draft orders and the show concluded with a plug for a new documentary, Art Beets and Lyrics.

    • Documentary showcases artists' 20th anniversary tourThe documentary highlights Jabbar, W, and other artists' enduring appeal and influence, attracting massive crowds during their milestone tour, with a mention of Jack Daniels.

      The documentary "AB&L's 20th Anniversary Tour" on Hulu showcases Jabbar, W, and other artists preparing for their milestone tour, attracting massive crowds at each performance. A notable detail is the mention of Jack Daniels, a whiskey brand with a 35% alcohol by volume specialty, which is registered in Tennessee. The brand is mentioned in the context of the documentary, but it's essential to remember to drink responsibly. Overall, the documentary is a testament to the enduring appeal and influence of these artists, who continue to captivate audiences after two decades.

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