Logo
    Search

    Podcast Summary

    • Acknowledging the challenges of wind energyDespite the push for renewable energy, it's important to address the limitations of wind energy, including infrastructure investments and intermittency.

      While there is a widespread desire for renewable energy sources like wind to lead the way in the energy transition, it's important to acknowledge and address the challenges and limitations of these technologies. During a recent episode of The Big Take DC podcast, Barry Norris, founder and CEO of Argonaut, discussed the reality of wind energy and its current limitations, including the need for significant infrastructure investments and the challenges of intermittency. John Steppach, senior reporter at Bloomberg and author of the daily money newsletter, praised Norris for his straightforward approach and his use of data to back up his claims. The conversation highlighted the importance of having an open and nuanced conversation about renewable energy, rather than being swayed solely by hope or political pressure. As Meryn Somerset Webb noted, it's crucial to acknowledge the issues with wind energy in order to find solutions and move towards a more sustainable energy future.

    • The energy transition requires significant subsidies and bans to be financially viableThe energy transition towards inferior products needs substantial government support and restrictions on superior alternatives to be economically viable, potentially hindering America's growth

      The energy transition towards inferior products like electric vehicles, heat pumps, and wind energy requires significant government subsidies, bans on superior products, and 0% interest rates to make the projects financially viable. This situation is rarely discussed in depth, but it's important to acknowledge that America's economic edge could be attributed to its abundant fossil fuels. History shows that progress is fueled by plentiful, cheap, dense energy. Moving away from this could negatively impact growth. Nuclear power, an alternative energy source, is making a comeback but faces similar challenges in gaining acceptance. Ultimately, we're limiting our progress by relying on magical thinking, politics, and semantics instead of embracing all viable energy solutions.

    • Wind energy's inconsistent power supply leads to economic challengesDespite wind energy's potential, its inconsistent power supply makes it less economically viable than nuclear reactors for reliable electricity production.

      The renewable energy sector, specifically wind energy, may not be the most economically viable solution for reliable electricity production. Barry's perspective, as discussed in the podcast, is that even if wind energy is effective when it's available, we already have cheap power during those times. However, when the wind isn't blowing, the price of energy goes up significantly. This inconsistency means that a large amount of capital is being invested in wind energy projects that may not always be able to provide a consistent power supply. Instead, investing in nuclear reactors could provide a more reliable source of electricity with similar planning issues but fewer inconsistencies in power production. The misallocation of capital in the renewable energy sector, particularly during the zero-interest-rate era, is becoming increasingly visible as the inconsistencies become more pronounced.

    • UK's wind power surplus hinders new investmentsThe UK's surplus of cheap wind power, lack of effective storage or export solutions, and ongoing renewable energy subsidies create a cycle of investment in renewable energy companies, benefiting short sellers.

      The UK currently faces a surplus of cheap wind power when it's available, which we cannot store or export effectively. As a result, building more wind farms seems unnecessary since the energy produced would not be utilized efficiently. This surplus can be seen as a zero-interest rate phenomenon, where the government's involvement in renewable energy subsidies prevents a rapid depletion of funds, creating a continuous cycle of investment in renewable energy companies. Despite the ongoing development of batteries and energy storage solutions, their availability and affordability remain a significant challenge, making the current situation a pointless pursuit until a viable long-term storage solution emerges. This situation benefits short sellers, who can profit from the continuous recapitalization of renewable energy companies.

    • Barry's Controversial Economic OutlookBarry expects higher inflation and interest rates due to massive debt levels and past money printing, but the investment outlook depends on the test between inflation and deflation.

      Barry's perspective on the economic outlook, as discussed in the podcast, is controversial and requires careful consideration. He argues that we are in a turning point in the macroeconomic regime, with higher inflation and interest rates expected due to massive debt levels and past money printing. However, it's essential to examine his data and modeling to assess the validity of his arguments. Barry's portfolio is positioned for inflation, but a shift to deflation could impact his holdings. Ultimately, the belief in a higher inflationary environment versus deflation will be tested in the coming months, and it's crucial to remain flexible about the investment outlook. The monetarist argument for higher inflation is strong, but the political environment plays a significant role in determining the outcome.

    • Central banks may accept a recession to control inflationCentral banks might prioritize inflation control over avoiding a recession, especially when employment is strong

      Central banks may be more willing to let inflation run high and even trigger a recession if it means addressing inflationary pressures, especially when employment levels are still strong. This was a topic of discussion during a recent episode of Meryn Talks Money, where economist Meryn Somerset Webb and guest John Steffach explored the current economic climate and the potential for future economic downturns. Although a recession could lead to negative consequences for some individuals, the attitude at the moment seems to be that it's an acceptable price to pay for controlling inflation. Listeners can explore this topic further by checking out the links provided in the show notes for The Big Take DC and The Big Take from Bloomberg News, which delve into the intersection of money, politics, and power shaping government and the economy.

    Recent Episodes from Merryn Talks Money

    Why Now Is the Moment for Bitcoin and Gold

    Why Now Is the Moment for Bitcoin and Gold

    Regular listeners of the Merryn Talks Money podcast know that Merryn Somerset Webb usually ends her interviews with one question. If you had to invest all of your money into one of these assets, and hold it for the next 10 years, which would it be: Bitcoin or gold? In this week’s episode, she makes that question the foundation for a conversation with Charlie Morris, chief investment officer and founder of ByteTree, and Alexander Chartres, a fund manager at Ruffer. 

    The episode was taped in front of audience at the Bloomberg offices in London. 

    Want to see Merryn live? Check out her shows in Edinburgh at Fringe Festival this August! 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Merryn Talks Money
    enJune 14, 2024

    Reasons to Put Your Money in a ‘Fragile’ Europe

    Reasons to Put Your Money in a ‘Fragile’ Europe

    On this week’s Merryn Talks Money, host Merryn Somerset Webb speaks with Daniel Avigad, partner and fund manager at Lansdowne Partners, a global investment management boutique entirely focused on active equities investing. He explains why Europe, though debt heavy and over-regulated, may actually be a place to put your money.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Merryn Talks Money
    enJune 07, 2024

    Living Longer Means Rethinking How You Work Right Now

    Living Longer Means Rethinking How You Work Right Now

    If aging doesn’t happen all at once, why should retirement? That’s the question Merryn Somerset Webb explores with economist and author Andrew J Scott in this week’s episode of Merryn Talks Money. They discuss the opportunities and challenges of living longer in the 21st century, and the complications it may inflict on your financial planning. 

    Plus, senior reporter John Stepek joins to talk the quadruple lock and the pensions bidding war. 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Merryn Talks Money
    enMay 31, 2024

    How To Protect Your Pension From a New Government

    How To Protect Your Pension From a New Government

    A general election in the UK has been called for July 4. What does that mean for your money—and is there anything you can (or should) do in advance of a possible tide of new policy?

    Those are the questions host Merryn Somerset Webb and senior reporter John Stepek explore with guests Helen Thomas, chief executive of macroeconomic consultancy BlondeMoney, and Tom McPhail, director of public affairs at The Lang Cat. 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Merryn Talks Money
    enMay 24, 2024

    The Argument Against Relative Performance

    The Argument Against Relative Performance

    Tellworth’s John Warren tells Merryn Talks Money investors aren’t interested in a manager’s record versus an index—they just want to make money.

    And it has happened again. Another new high for the FTSE 100. Merryn would love to talk about something else, but John Stepek can't. 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Merryn Talks Money
    enMay 17, 2024

    Why Everyone Believes What They Want to Believe with Alex Edmans

    Why Everyone Believes What They Want to Believe with Alex Edmans

    On this week’s episode of Merryn Talks Money, London Business School professor and author Alex Edmans joins to discuss his new book, May Contain Lies. Edmans explains why he believes that stories, statistics and studies exploit pre-existing biases.

    Plus, John Stepek joins to discuss yet another boring Bank of England rate decision. 

    Emails to merrynmoney@bloomberg.net

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Making the Case for Active Investing

    Making the Case for Active Investing

    Downing Fund Managers’ Simon Evan-Cook joins this week to talk about the case for active versus passive investing.

    Cook says Jack Bogle, founder of The Vanguard Group and arguably the father of passive investing, did “more for individual wealth than anyone in history.” He deserved a knighthood for creating a low risk, reliable and comprehensive way of investing, Cook says. Nevertheless, the fund manager explains why he’s an investor in active funds, and discusses how to find the rare manager who might make you real money over the long term. 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Why Sunak May Quit Ahead of a July 4th Election

    Why Sunak May Quit Ahead of a July 4th Election

    Get ready for a UK election this summer, says Helen Thomas, an ex-adviser to former Conservative finance minister George Osborne and CEO of BlondeMoney. On this week’s Merryn Talks Money, she joins Merryn Somerset Webb to explain her core scenario for the British government: Rishi Sunak will resign and hand over to Penny Mordaunt, the House of Commons leader. She will call a July 4th election — and Labour leader Keir Starmer will be prime minister by the middle of July.

    Plus, John Stepek joins to discuss a new high in the FTSE 100 and Opinion Columnist Adrian Wooldridge joins the post-interview discussion to share his views on Helen's predictions. 

    Love/Hate mail to the usual address: merrynmoney@bloomberg.net

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Related Episodes

    Hedge Fund Boss Barry Norris's ‘Moral Case’ for Fossil Fuel Investing

    The Energy Gang at Distributech 2024 in Orlando

    The Energy Gang at Distributech 2024 in Orlando

    What AI means for the energy transition in the electricity industry

    Welcome to a special episode of Wood Mackenzie's The Energy Gang, recorded at the Distributech 2024 conference in Orlando. Distributech is the leading event in North America for the electricity transmission and distribution industry. It provides a fantastic opportunity to talk to the companies that provide technology for moving and managing electricity, and to the utilities and other companies that use that technology.

    The impact of artificial intelligence is one of the central themes of the conference, and host Ed Crooks has been meeting industry leaders to discuss the implications of AI and other new technologies for the future of electricity. From the need for more power to supply data centers for AI applications, to the potential for AI tools for managing the grid, to the possible breakthroughs in nuclear power that could be discovered using AI, the speakers explore a vast range of possibilities. 

    Hussein Shel, chief technologist for AWS (Amazon Web Services), talks about both the opportunities and the challenges of the new types of AI. Zack Kass, a futurist who was formerly a senior executive at OpenAI, discusses the prospect of an age of “energy abundance” that could be unlocked by sophisticated AI. He argues that abundance, possibly provided by nuclear fusion power, will be the way that the world can meet the increased demand for power created by advanced AI systems. 

    Quinn Nakayama, the senior director of Grid Research Innovation and Development at the California utility PG&E, talks about the practical decisions involved in adopting AI technologies in today’s utilities. Tom Deitrich, chief executive of Itron, a supplier of technologies for utilities and cities to manage energy, water and traffic, joins Ed to discuss the increasingly urgent need for more advanced technologies in grid management. And finally, Anthony Allard, the head of Hitachi Energy’s North American business, talks about what they have been hearing from their customers in terms of two critical issues in the industry: the progress of digitalization, and shortages of critical equipment in the supply chain.

    You can find us on most platforms: we’re @theenergygang. Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss the next one, out every second Tuesday.

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    The Carbon Hidden in Our Buildings

    The Carbon Hidden in Our Buildings

    When we talk about climate change on this show, and what causes it, we are usually talking about gases that come from vehicles or from the electricity sector. 

    But what about the built environment? This week: we’re talking about the embedded emissions in our buildings.

    There’s the natural gas that gets burned in them, and there’s all the electricity that it takes to power them. 

    And then there’s another category – all the upfront energy that went into making the buildings in the first place. That’s called “embodied carbon” or “embedded carbon” or sometimes “upfront carbon.” 

    In the next few crucial years when we can bend the arc of climate change, most of the emissions that come from buildings are going to come from the embodied carbon. So how we choose to build buildings really matters. 

    Our senior editor Ingrid Lobet has a special interest in buildings and wrote recently about embodied carbon for Greentech Media. Read that article here.

    Just before everything shut down with the pandemic several months ago, Ingrid was at a conference on this subject organized in part by Ed Mazria. Mazria has been at the forefront of a growing faction of builders, engineers and designers intent on remaking buildings into a climate solution. She spoke with him about the biggest opportunities in decarbonizing buildings.

    The Interchange is supported by Schneider Electric, the leader of digital transformation in energy management and automation. Schneider Electric has designed and deployed more than 300 microgrids in North America, helping customers gain energy independence and control, while increasing resilience and reaching their clean energy goals.

    We’re also sponsored by NEXTracker. NEXTracker has more than 30 gigawatts of resilient and intelligent solar tracking systems across six continents. Optimize your solar power plant.

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    How to Strip Carbon From the Atmosphere

    How to Strip Carbon From the Atmosphere

    Leading climate models point to a sobering reality: Even if the world’s economy reaches net zero emissions by midcentury, we will still have too much CO2 in the atmosphere. And so if we have to not just emit less, but remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere, how do we do it?

    Today we dive into carbon dioxide removal, or CDR. It’s an increasingly diverse and vibrant technology landscape, with some fundamental business model questions yet to be answered.

    To take stock of this space, we spoke to Sarah Sclarsic, a carbon removal researcher at MIT with business acumen to boot: She co-founded the mobility company Getaround. She’s now an investor and on the boards of two SPACs (one of which took XL Fleet public).

    We survey the existing technologies, ranging from the old school, like planting trees, to the novel, like direct air capture. And then we take a dive into some theoretical bioengineering approaches. 

    Sarah argues that we already use powerful biotech tools for medicine and food. She shares her research on the potential to apply these biotech approaches to CDR, laying out what these technologies might look like, such as bioengineering microbes to assist with enhanced rock weathering or cultivating fields and fields of carbon-locking cassava.

    The Interchange is brought to you by the Yale Program in Financing and Deploying Clean Energy. Through this online program, Yale University is training working professionals in clean energy policy, finance, and technology, accelerating the deployment of clean energy worldwide, and mitigating climate change. To connect with Yale expertise, grow your professional network, and deepen your impact, apply before March 14, 2021.

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.