The Emergence Of AAWSAP - A Secretive UFO Investigation

Podcast Summary

• Kroger's Extensive Selection and Savings vs. UFO Investigation: Kroger provides a vast range of options with affordable prices and savings opportunities, while investigative journalism uncovers hidden truths through factual accuracy and persistence.

  Kroger offers an extensive selection of over 30,000 delicious options for customers, along with everyday low prices and various savings opportunities, making it a worthwhile shopping destination. Meanwhile, in the world of investigative journalism, George Knapp shared a story about his unique experience uncovering information on a secretive UFO investigation funded by Senator Harry Reid. Despite initial reports labeling it as the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP), Knapp discovered that the correct name was actually the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). This revelation came during a briefing he attended, which was arranged by Senator Reid himself. Knapp's story highlights the importance of factual accuracy in journalism and the thrill of being part of an investigative adventure that uncovers hidden truths.

• AAWSAP vs ATIP: Clarifying the UFO Investigation Confusion: AAWSAP and ATIP were two distinct UFO investigations, with AAWSAP being a large-scale, well-funded program and ATIP being a smaller, 0-funded project.

  The $22, million UFO investigation led by Harry Reid was not called ATIP as commonly reported, but AAWSAP (Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program). Dr. James Likatsky, who spearheaded the project, clarified that it was indeed a UFO investigation and not a study of future technologies as previously suggested. The confusion between AAWSAP and ATIP, a nickname for AAWSAP at DIA, is due to the fact that the latter was an unofficial, closed program. AAWSAP had significant funding, covered both military and civilian UFOs, and yielded a large database, while ATIP, which was 0-funded and focused on specific military encounters, had no contract. Dr. Likatsky emphasized that both programs were real and distinct, and the misconception is not deliberate but rather a result of the clandestine nature of the investigation.

• The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP) is a subset of the larger Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP): AAWSAP, initiated in 2007, had a broader scope and focus, including UFO investigations, hypersonic objects, and a budget of $22 million with 50 full-time investigators, while AATIP, led by Lou Elizondo, gained public attention as a smaller UFO-focused subset.

  The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP) is a subset of a larger, more comprehensive UFO-related program called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP or AAWSAP). The latter, initiated by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in 2007, had a broader scope and focus, including investigating military encounters with UFOs as well as civilian cases and hypersonic objects. AATIP, led by former military intelligence official Lou Elizondo, gained significant public attention. However, it only represented a fraction of the overall AAWSAP program, which had a budget of $22 million and employed 50 full-time investigators. The distinction between the two programs has been misunderstood, leading to incomplete reporting in mainstream media. The importance of clarifying this lies in the significant scale and scope of AAWSAP, which included extensive research on UFOs and related phenomena, resulting in the creation of the world's largest UFO database with approximately 200,000 cases.

• US Government's UFO Investigations: AATIP and AUSAP: The US government dedicated resources to UFO investigations through two programs: AATIP, focused on UFO-related investigations, and AUSAP, with a larger budget and more employees. AATIP's existence was validated when a letter from Senator Harry Reid was leaked, revealing its SAP status and Elizondo's involvement.

  During the late 1990s and early 2000s, the US government invested significant resources into investigating UFOs through two distinct programs: Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), overseen by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and the Advanced Space Aerospace Programs Administration (AUSAP) contract, managed by the Defense Department. While AUSAP had a larger budget and more employees, AATIP, led by former military intelligence official, Lou Elizondo, focused on UFO-related investigations and kept it going despite funding cuts. A pivotal moment came when a letter from Senator Harry Reid, requesting Special Access Program (SAP) status for AATIP, was leaked, revealing Elizondo's involvement in the program and validating its existence. This revelation helped clear Elizondo's name and shed light on his work within the UFO investigation sphere. Overall, these programs demonstrate the US government's commitment to exploring UFO phenomena, with various levels of funding, resources, and secrecy.

• Mislabeling of UFO programs in NYT report: The NYT report on the $22 million UFO program mislabeled it as ATIP instead of OSAP, leading to an incomplete understanding of its scope. OSAP's focus went beyond military cases to include civilian encounters and potential health effects.

  The New York Times report on the $22 million UFO program was incorrect in labeling it as ATIP instead of OSAP. This mislabeling led to an incomplete understanding of the program's scope, as OSAP's focus went beyond military cases to include civilian encounters and their potential health and psychological consequences. The distinction between the two programs is significant, as it highlights the Defense Intelligence Agency's broader interest in UFOs that extends beyond just military encounters. Additionally, the existence of Defense Intelligence Reference Documents, which deal with the negative biological effects of close proximity to UFOs, further underscores the importance of accurately reporting on these programs. The reluctance to include Skinwalker Ranch-related material in the initial report may have been due to concerns about credibility, but the distinction between AAWSAP and OSAP is crucial for a complete understanding of the UFO study's scope.

• Investigating UFOs: The AUSAP Program's Findings and Foreign Collaborations: The AUSAP program, led by a navy guy named Jay Stratton, investigated the Tic Tac incident and produced numerous reports on UFO phenomena, military and civilian cases, and health effects. They also obtained material from foreign governments, including Russia, to understand their investigation structures.

  The AUSAP program, first investigated the Tic Tac incident, which was later made public by the speaker and his team. This report, written by a navy guy named Jay Stratton, provided significant details about the incident and added fuel to the UFO fire. The program also produced numerous other reports, some of which are hundreds of pages long and have yet to be made public. These reports delve deep into various UFO phenomena, cases involving military and civilian personnel, and health effects. The program also obtained material from foreign governments, including the Brazilian Air Force and Russia. The Russian material was analyzed to understand their UFO investigation structure, which influenced the creation of the OSAP program. The speaker hopes to release the Russian material at some point. The speaker's unique filing system ensures that documents are thoroughly vetted and released responsibly, ensuring they do not harm national security.

• Government UFO Investigation: The AAWSAP Program: The AAWSAP program, a significant government initiative, explored UFO phenomena and held potential game-changing implications, but crucial information nearly went missing and public revelation had to be carefully managed.

  The AAWSAP program, or Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program, was a significant government initiative that both the speaker and his colleague were only beginning to understand during their investigation. This program, which involved studying phenomena related to UFOs, was a topic of great intrigue and potential significance. The speaker had a close encounter with losing crucial information related to this program, leading to a moment of panic. The New York Times was set to reveal this story soon, but the speaker had to be cautious about what information was made public at the time. Jim Lykatzky, a former DIA rocket scientist, was a key figure in this investigation, but his involvement and insights have largely remained private. This program and the associated discoveries represented a potential game-changer for the UFO topic, with implications far beyond what many had previously considered.

• Former DIA employee witnesses UAP at Skinwalker Ranch: A former DIA employee, Dr. Jim Lukatsky, had an encounter with an unidentified tubular object during a visit to Skinwalker Ranch, inspiring him to delve deeper into the study of UFOs and UAPs.

  During a visit to Skinwalker Ranch in the late 1990s, Dr. Jim Lukatsky, a former DIA employee and rocket scientist, had an extraordinary experience. Within minutes of arriving, he witnessed an unexplained phenomenon that left a lasting impression on him. The incident involved a tubular object floating in the air, which he described as being similar to the cover of the album "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield. Despite his initial reluctance to share the details, he eventually revealed the experience to his colleague, George Knapp, who was also present during the visit. The incident reportedly influenced Dr. Lukatsky to become more involved in the study of UFOs and UAPs, and he later worked on a book project about his experiences. However, due to the sensitive nature of the topic, he remained a private figure and had only given one major interview about the incident.

• OSAP's Quest for UFO Truth with Other Agencies: The OSAP team collaborated with other agencies to uncover UFO truths, but faced challenges in gaining access to information and had to protect sensitive data.

  The OSAP program, led by Colonel John B. Alexander and Dr. Colm Keller, aimed to investigate UFO phenomena for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). However, due to the sensitive nature of the information, much of it was kept classified and the release was delayed for years. The book "The Secret History of the U.S. Government's UFO Investigations" was published to tell the full story, but it took 14 months for the Pentagon to approve the release of the material. The documents contained personal and health information, as well as names of witnesses, which had to be scrubbed to protect privacy and uphold agreements. The book hinted at the existence of other UFO programs being studied by other agencies, and the OSAP team attempted to gain access to them, but were denied. Page 153 of the book is particularly important as it details the OSAP team's efforts to collaborate with other agencies to uncover the truth about UFOs and the alleged recovery of discs and metamaterials. Despite the challenges, the authors are hopeful that more information will be released over time.

• Reports of UFO materials in aerospace companies: Allegations of aerospace firms possessing UFO materials, briefed on tech, and studying under secret programs; strict rules to hide info, potential career threats for inquirers; UFO craft study could revolutionize science if true.

  There have been reports and allegations of certain aerospace companies and defense contractors possessing physical materials related to Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) or UAPs, and even whole craft. These companies have allegedly been briefed on such technologies and have retrofitted their facilities to study them under special access programs. The Wilson Davis memo suggests that there are strict rules in place to hide this information from oversight, and those who attempt to gain access can face threats to their careers. This raises concerns about accountability and transparency in handling of potentially groundbreaking technologies. The existence and study of UFOs or UAPs, especially whole craft, would be a significant development in the scientific community if proven true.

• Lack of congressional oversight over UFO spending: Authentic Wilson Davis memo reveals sensitive UFO programs, but lack of transparency prevents public confirmation

  The lack of congressional oversight over the spending of funds related to non-terrestrial craft is a significant issue. The Wilson Davis memo, which details a meeting between Eric Davis and a military intelligence official about UFOs, is authentic and suggests the existence of highly sensitive government programs. These programs are so sensitive that even those in charge of special access programs cannot gain access to them. Recent congressional hearings have featured whistleblowers sharing information about these programs, but it remains uncertain whether they will be able to testify publicly. The public interest in these matters is high, and it is hoped that these whistleblowers will be able to share their stories in a confirmable way, ideally in a public setting like congressional hearings. However, given the sensitivity of the information and the potential backlash against whistleblowers, it remains to be seen how and when this information will be made public.

• Risks for those reporting UFOs/UAPs and double standards in handling information: Reporting UFOs/UAPs can result in public backlash and dismissive responses from authorities. Double standards in information release, such as withholding UAP data while sharing info on other sensitive topics, hinder public understanding and safety.

  Those who come forward with allegations about UFOs or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) face significant risks, including public smear campaigns and dismissive responses from authorities. Despite this, those who tell their stories have provided real and substantive evidence, and the truth will eventually come to light. However, the handling of UAP-related information by authorities and media outlets often involves word games, double standards, and a lack of transparency. For example, while the Pentagon may release footage of a Russian plane harassing a drone, they continue to withhold information about UAP sightings due to perceived sensitivity. This double standard only serves to hinder the public's understanding of these phenomena and undermines efforts to ensure flight safety. Ultimately, it is up to journalists and the public to push for transparency and demand that authorities take UAP sightings seriously.

• Transparency and truthfulness in UAP research: Expanding investigations, following evidence, and debunking misinformation are crucial for UAP research. Releasing classified info can provide valuable insights.

  Transparency and truthfulness are crucial, especially in matters of public interest, such as UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) or UFOs. Misinformation and false narratives can lead to damaging consequences and hinder the progress of scientific research. The OSAP (Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program) serves as a model for the current ARRW (Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group) in expanding their investigation beyond military encounters to include health and psychological effects of UFO encounters. It's essential to follow the evidence and consider all aspects of the phenomenon to find answers. Misinformation, such as the exaggerated claim of 100 fatalities caused by close proximity to UFOs, can harm the overall credibility of the research. The release of previously classified information and documents, like those from the OSAP, could provide valuable insights and bring us closer to understanding the nature of UAPs.

• UFO Discoveries: From Government Secrets to Public Knowledge: Journalists and reporters uncover UFO-related information, revealing government studies and cultural significance, driving public fascination.

  Despite efforts to keep UFO-related information hidden within government, journalists and reporters continue to uncover and share crucial details with the public. Five years ago, a meeting with Harry Reid and Doctor Jim Lekatsky led to significant revelations about U.S. UAP studies, and even older documents from Russia have provided valuable insights. The investigation into UFOs extends beyond military matters, touching on culture, entertainment, and various forms of media. Ultimately, the fascination with UFOs connects various topics and continues to drive public interest.