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    The Gender Expert: Men Are Emotionally Dependent On Women & We're Treating Them Like Malfunctioning Women! Richard Reeves

    enJuly 08, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Men's challenges in modern societyMen, particularly those without partners or children, face issues like education gaps, stagnating wages, and rising suicide rates due to societal shifts towards women's economic independence, leading to feelings of worthlessness and lack of purpose. Policy and research focus on this issue is lacking, potentially negatively impacting human flourishing.

      Men, particularly partnerless and childless men, are facing significant challenges in modern society. These issues include education gaps, stagnating wages, and rising suicide rates. The cultural shift towards women's economic independence has left men questioning their role, leading to feelings of uselessness and worthlessness. The lack of focus on this issue from a policy and research perspective is concerning, as the consequences can negatively impact human flourishing. The author, Richard Reeves, felt compelled to address this issue despite facing warnings and resistance due to its sensitive nature. His work aims to make it less provocative and more data-driven to encourage more conversation and action.

    • Men's role in societyThe cultural revolution in advanced economies has led to positive changes for gender equality, but left men feeling uncertain about their roles and place in society, leading to mental health challenges. A nuanced, middle ground is needed to acknowledge men's unique challenges while continuing to promote gender equality.

      We're in the midst of a cultural revolution in advanced economies, dramatically transforming the economic relation between men and women. This revolution has led to many positive changes for men and women, such as making marriage a choice rather than a necessity for women. However, it has left men feeling uncertain about their roles and place in society, leading to issues like mental health challenges. The old scripts for masculinity have been torn up, but a new script for men has not fully emerged. Men are being given unpaid caregiving roles or told to be more like women, which can be confusing and unappealing. We need to find a nuanced, middle ground that acknowledges the unique challenges of men while continuing to promote gender equality. This will be a complex and ongoing process, but it's essential for creating a society where all individuals can thrive.

    • Understanding Gender DifferencesRecognizing gender differences is crucial for creating a balanced and inclusive society, while acknowledging overlapping distributions and considering implications in various contexts.

      While algorithms may prioritize simplistic and tribal content, the success of nuanced conversations indicates a strong desire for deeper understanding. Men and women are different on average, but recognizing these differences does not mean turning back progress or discriminating against individuals. It's crucial to acknowledge the existence of overlapping distributions and consider the implications of these differences in various contexts. For instance, men's tendency to take more risks may lead to negative outcomes, such as addiction or accidents, but it can also contribute positively, like in high-risk professions or entrepreneurship. The key is to accept these differences and use them to create a balanced and inclusive society.

    • Gender Differences in LeadershipEmbracing gender differences in leadership teams brings unique perspectives and leads to better problem-solving and collaboration. It's crucial to respect these differences and strive for equality that values both masculine and feminine traits.

      Recognizing and embracing the differences between men and women contributes to the importance of gender diversity in leadership teams. These differences, rooted in biology and experiences, bring unique perspectives that can lead to better problem-solving and collaboration. It's crucial to respect these differences without labeling one as better or worse, and to strive for equality that values both masculine and feminine traits. While some may argue that equality means androgyny, it's essential to remember that it's about treating all individuals equally, not eradicating differences. Symbolic acts, like holding the door open for someone, can still hold value in a world striving for substantive gender equality, as long as they don't hinder the progression of individuals in their careers.

    • Men's Suicide RatesAddressing the feeling of being surplus to requirements among men is crucial to prevent suicides, particularly in younger men. Open conversations about suicide can help reduce stigma and make it easier for people to seek help.

      While symbolic issues like holding the door for women are important, it's crucial not to lose sight of more pressing matters such as the alarming suicide rates among men. These rates are particularly high among younger men and have been on the rise since the beginning of the 2010s. Men who take their own lives often describe themselves as feeling useless and worthless, indicating a deep sense of not being needed or valued. This feeling of being surplus to requirements can be fatal for individuals. It's essential to address this issue by fostering a sense of belonging and value for men, particularly in communities and workplaces. Furthermore, open conversations about suicide can help reduce the stigma and shame associated with it, making it easier for people to seek help when needed.

    • Men's sense of unneedednessMen's historical role as providers and protectors has narrowed down to wage earning, leaving many men feeling unnecessary and contributing to increased suicide rates. Emphasizing their importance in families and communities and encouraging new ways to contribute can help address this issue.

      Men's psychological trajectory often leads them to feelings of unneededness and disconnection, which can manifest in various mental health issues and even suicide. This sense of unneededness can be traced back to our evolutionary past when being needed by the community was essential for survival. The invention of fatherhood, for instance, was a response to the physical limitations women faced during childbirth. Men were needed to provide and protect. However, with societal changes, the role of men as providers has narrowed down to wage earning, leaving many men questioning their purpose and worth. This feeling of being unnecessary can have severe consequences, including increased suicide rates. It's crucial to recognize and address this issue by emphasizing the importance of men's roles in families and communities, encouraging them to find new ways to contribute and feel valued.

    • Feeling needed in older ageFeeling needed is crucial for older adults, especially men, to prevent isolation and lack of purpose which can lead to suicide. New ways to help older people feel valued and engaged in their communities include volunteering opportunities, community projects, and online platforms.

      Feeling needed is essential for human beings, especially as we age. This sense of purpose and connection can come from various sources, including work and community involvement. The evolution of longer life expectancy has brought new challenges, as people retire and may feel less needed. Older men, in particular, are at risk of suicide due to feelings of isolation and lack of purpose. Institutional structures like churches and community groups once provided a way for individuals to contribute to their communities and feel connected. However, the deinstitutionalization of these organizations has made it harder for people to find ways to feel needed. The loss of traditional roles for men, such as being a scout leader or volunteer, has also contributed to this issue. The changing dating landscape may further exacerbate feelings of isolation and disconnection for younger men. To address these challenges, it's crucial to find new ways to help older people feel needed and valued in their communities. This could include volunteering opportunities, community projects, and online platforms that facilitate social connections. Additionally, we need to rethink traditional gender roles and create more opportunities for men to engage in their communities and feel a sense of purpose.

    • Changing dynamics of relationships and datingThe online dating landscape can exacerbate feelings of uncertainty and disorientation for young men, as traditional roles and expectations shift and the asymmetry of attention on the apps magnifies feelings of disconnection and challenges notions of masculinity and success

      The changing dynamics of relationships and dating, particularly for young men, have left many feeling uncertain and unneeded. Traditional roles and expectations have shifted, leading to a rise in singlehood and later marriage. Additionally, the dating app landscape exacerbates these feelings as the bottom 50% of men receive minimal attention, while the top 10% reap the majority of the rewards. This asymmetry can leave many men feeling disoriented and disconnected, leading to a sense of disorientation and disorientation in navigating romantic relationships. Historically, men have had a lower chance of reproducing compared to women, leading to an evolutionary pattern of polygamy and women being more selective in partners. However, the online dating landscape magnifies these feelings and challenges traditional notions of masculinity and success. Ultimately, this leaves many young men feeling unsure of their place and value in romantic relationships.

    • Masculinity and FatherhoodThe shift towards online dating and the decline of traditional family structures can lead to negative consequences for men, including disconnection and dangerous behaviors. True masculinity lies in being a surplus generator for others, and dads matter regardless of marital status. The importance of marriage and fatherhood should be recognized while also acknowledging their changing nature.

      The shift towards online dating and the decline of traditional family structures have left many men feeling disconnected and without a sense of purpose. This can lead to anger, frustration, and even dangerous behaviors. The historical notion of masculinity as being a lone ranger or self-sufficient is a misconception, as true masculinity lies in being a surplus generator for others. The decline of marriage and the increase in children being born outside of it can have negative consequences, particularly for fatherhood and the role men play in their children's lives. It's essential to recognize that dads matter, regardless of marital status, and that both the left and the right have valid points when it comes to the role of marriage and fatherhood in society. The class, race, and education gaps in marriage and childbirth in the US further complicate the issue. Ultimately, it's crucial to find a balance that supports both the importance of marriage and fatherhood while also recognizing the changing nature of these institutions.

    • Marriage and genderMarriage continues to benefit men's employment, earnings, health, and longevity, while women's economic independence from feminist critique increases divorce likelihood, impacting differently based on race, class, and gender.

      While the decline of marriage is a common trend in many Western countries, the reasons and impacts vary significantly between races, classes, and genders. Marriage continues to serve an important role for men, particularly in providing a sense of need, connection, and involvement, leading to better employment, earnings, health, and longer life expectancy. Conversely, for women, the economic independence gained from the feminist critique of traditional marriage has led to a higher likelihood of divorce, giving them greater choice and power in their relationships. However, it's crucial to ensure that men feel needed and connected in new family models to prevent negative consequences, such as increased suicide risk.

    • Maturation of MasculinityEncouraging open communication and emotional availability, rather than labeling masculinity as 'toxic', may lead to more productive conversations and solutions for improving male behavior.

      The term "toxic masculinity" has become a divisive and unhelpful label for understanding and improving male behavior. This term, which was once used academically to describe harmful aspects of masculinity, has been overused and misapplied, leading to a lack of clarity and understanding. Instead, focusing on the maturation of masculinity and encouraging open communication and emotional availability may be a more productive approach. Furthermore, the discussion highlighted the issue of men's struggles with forming friendships and the decline in male friendships, which has significant implications for mental health and well-being. The traditional gender roles that had women handling more social arrangements and relationship maintenance have shifted, leaving men to take on this role and face challenges in doing so. It's important to remember that labels and slogans, such as "toxic masculinity," can be counterproductive in fostering meaningful conversations and solutions. Instead, a more nuanced and compassionate approach is needed to support men in their personal growth and development.

    • Men's mental health and connectionMen's Sheds provide a platform for men to connect through doing things together, emphasizing the importance of addressing men's mental health and the need for male therapists, as well as the challenges men face in expressing emotions and societal changes impacting masculinity.

      Loneliness is a profound form of suffering that can pierce one's heart. The conversation touched upon how men, in particular, communicate differently and often find it easier to connect while doing something together, rather than face to face. Institutions like Men's Sheds, where men gather to fix things, are based on this insight. The importance of men's mental health and the need for male therapists was also emphasized. The conversation also highlighted the challenges men face in expressing their emotions and the impact of societal changes on men's roles and masculinity. As a business-to-business marketer, LinkedIn Ads can help build meaningful relationships and reach your target audience precisely.

    • Gender roles and societal normsUnderstanding and challenging societal norms is crucial for personal growth within relationships, as expressed masculinity and open communication can lead to equal partnerships.

      Societal norms and expectations can limit our understanding of gender roles and hinder personal growth within relationships. The speaker shares how her feminist mindset once prevented her from expressing her masculine side, but her wife's direct feedback allowed her to reconsider the meaning and expression of masculinity. Additionally, the importance of communication, assertiveness, and shared responsibilities in relationships was emphasized, as well as the desire for a partner who is capable and provides choices. This conversation highlights the importance of challenging societal norms and fostering open communication to promote personal growth and equal partnerships.

    • Modern MasculinityMen and women should aim for equal partnerships in all aspects of life, including financial independence and shared responsibilities. Men should strive to be co-providers of love, time, energy, and financial resources, and should learn from real-life role models to become passionate, risk-taking, and respectful individuals.

      Men and women should strive for equal partnerships in all aspects of life, including financial independence and shared responsibilities. The women's movement aimed to secure economic independence for women, not to diminish men's provision. Men should aim to be co-providers of love, time, energy, and financial resources, and should not take themselves out of the equation. Men in the modern world should recognize their inherent differences but also strive for complete gender equality. They should be passionate about their work, serve others, and take risks while maintaining respect for others' decisions. Men should learn from real-life role models, such as their fathers, teachers, and coaches, rather than relying on online content. The lack of male role models in certain professions can be addressed by encouraging more men to enter these fields and by providing positive male role models in other areas of life. Ultimately, winning the battle for modern masculinity lies in real-life interactions and relationships, not online.

    • Young Men and BoysAddressing the struggles of young men and boys through policy solutions and empathetic communication is crucial for creating a healthier and more inclusive society.

      Acknowledging and addressing the struggles of young men and boys is crucial for creating positive change in society. This can be done through policy solutions and empathetic communication, which sends a powerful message to those who feel unseen and unheard. By addressing these issues alongside the ongoing fight for women's rights, we can coexist and champion each other. This approach fosters a healthier and more inclusive society, where all individuals can thrive. The power of empathy and acknowledgement should not be underestimated, as it can help bridge the gap and create a sense of belonging for those who are struggling. This approach is essential for addressing the mental health issues, suicidality, and educational gaps that are affecting young men and boys.

    • Dr. Warren Farrell's workDr. Warren Farrell's work, with his book 'The Boy Crisis', brings people together with objective and data-driven approaches, addressing important issues and offering solutions based on facts and statistics.

      Dr. Warren Farrell's work, particularly his book "The Boy Crisis: Why the Modern Male is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What We Can Do About It," effectively brings everyone into the conversation with an objective and data-driven approach, addressing issues that matter to individuals regardless of political affiliations. This book, which the speaker highly recommends, sets the right tone for discussing important subjects and offers solutions based on facts and statistics, making it a valuable contribution to society. In essence, we need more voices like Dr. Farrell's that can bring people together and foster meaningful discussions on crucial topics.

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    500,000 men are dying by suicide, and 6% of men are unemployed, is masculinity in crisis? And what is the cure?  Richard Reeves is a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and President of the American Institute for Boys and Men, an organisation that researches and addresses issues affecting men. He is also the author of the book, ‘Of Boys and Men’.  In this conversation, Richard and Steven discuss topics such as, the rising rates of male suicide rates, the health benefits of marriage for men, the toxic impact of Andrew Tate, and the relationship crisis among men.  0:00 (Intro) (01:24) Why Dedicating Your Career To Men's Issues (03:54) What's Your Background? (06:06) The Crazy Stats That Made You Research This Topic (08:07) We're Going Through A Cultural Revolution (12:32) We Need A New Way To Approach This (17:12) Are Men And Women Differently? (21:07) Men Take More Risks (26:17) Unconscious Behaviours Of Men (34:11) Suicide Is The Biggest Killer Of Men (38:44) Why Is This Suicide Increasing? (42:47) Why Do Humans Feel Like They Need To Be Needed? (46:59) Why Men Feel Less Needed (49:43) Does Retirement Kill You? (54:43) We're Losing Connection In Our Modern Society (57:42) The Dating Environment Has Changed (01:05:23) Are Dating Apps Being Unfavourable To Men? (01:09:41) Is Marriage In Decline? (01:12:51) Births Are Increasing Outside Of Marriage (01:13:56) Is Marriage Better For Women Or Men? (01:15:59) Enforced Monogamy (01:17:55) Why Andrew Tate Converted To Islam (01:20:47) Women Economic Power (01:22:56) What Do You Think About The Word Toxic Masculinity (01:27:08) There Is A Friendship Male Recession (01:31:38) Men Shed's Movement (01:33:48) My Experience With Couples Therapy (01:36:30) The Hard Times Of Going Through Couples Therapy (01:40:25) How Masculinity Can Be Expressed (01:47:42) What Advice You'd Give Your Children (01:53:58) Using Our Voices To Make Men Be Heard (02:01:22) The Last Guest Question You can buy Richard’s book, ‘Of Boys And Men’, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/BGBtdbitXKb  Follow Richard:  Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/8swNmRotXKb  Twitter - https://g2ul0.app.link/9iup1brtXKb  Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACEpisodes  My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACBook  Follow me: https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb  Sponsors: Linkedin Jobs: https://www.linkedin.com/doac Colgate - https://www.colgate.com/en-gb/colgate-total Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Moment 169: CIA Spy Reveals How To AVOID Media Manipulation & Brainwashing: Andrew Bustamante

    Moment 169: CIA Spy Reveals How To AVOID Media Manipulation & Brainwashing: Andrew Bustamante
    In this moment, the former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante discusses the crucial techniques of manipulation, which he describes as a core part of CIA training. Andrew  introduces the R.I.C.E. analogy, which stands for Reward, Ideology, Coercion, and Ego. This framework is essential for understanding the motivations of others, allowing you to connect with them, build relationships, and influence their actions. According to Andrew, reward involves anything the other person desires, while ideology reflects the person’s core beliefs and is the most powerful element of the acronym. Coercion involves using negative behaviours on someone such as guilt or blackmail, and ego relates to how the other person sees themselves. Andrew translates this manipulation technique to marketing. He suggests that by sending targeted messages to your audience and assessing their responses, you gain insights into their ideology, providing you with useful information for future sales. Listen to the full episode here - Spotify- https://g2ul0.app.link/vgYbIohXXKb Apple -  https://g2ul0.app.link/r9qufpkXXKb Watch the Episodes On Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Andrew: https://everydayspy.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    The Ozempic Expert: Ozempic Transforms Your Gut Microbiome! People Are Being Overdosed On Ozempic! Microdosing Saved My Life! - Dr Tyna Moore

    The Ozempic Expert: Ozempic Transforms Your Gut Microbiome! People Are Being Overdosed On Ozempic! Microdosing Saved My Life! - Dr Tyna Moore
    It's the most effective weight loss drug ever, but could it have other miraculous benefits? Dr Tyna Moore is a certified Naturopathic and Chiropractic physician and expert in holistic regenerative medicine. She is also the host of ‘The Dr Tyna Show’ Podcast and founder of the ‘Ozempic Uncovered’ course about the benefits of the drug.  In this conversation, Dr Tyna and Steven discuss topics such as, how Ozempic saved Tyna’s mother’s life, the link between Ozempic and fertility, Ozempic's impact on alcoholism, and how Ozempic can boost your sex drive.  00:00 Intro 02:06 What Is Tina's Mission? 03:33 What Is a Naturopathic Doctor? 05:13 What Is Metabolic Dysfunction? 10:17 Tina's Most Surprising Case Studies 12:45 What Treatment Did You Prescribe Your Mother? 15:47 Tina's Health History 19:28 Discovering Ozempic 27:57 What Is Ozempic? 32:14 Tina's Use of Ozempic 38:17 The Untold Story of Ozempic 41:26 Other Benefits of Ozempic 50:36 Ozempic the Cancer Cure? 54:45 Mental Health Connections to Ozempic 57:14 Sexual Health and Fertility Impact 01:00:58 Where Is Metabolic Dysfunction Coming From? 01:05:04 What Advice You'd Give Someone With PCOS 01:10:13 Microdosing Examples 01:15:07 Microdosing Ozempic 01:20:34 Is Ozempic a Cure for Addiction? 01:23:56 Ozempic and the Dopamine Pathways 01:27:34 Should We Be Concerned About Side Effects? 01:30:18 What Are the Downsides of the Treatment? 01:32:42 What Else You Need to Do for Weight Loss if Microdosing 01:35:30 Losing Muscle as We Age, Fact? 01:36:37 The Sleep Component 01:38:44 Mindset for Weight Loss 01:40:36 The Benefits of Saunas 01:42:34 What Would Tyna Say to the World? 01:46:57 How to Find Out More About Tyna's Work 01:54:06 Guest's Last Question You can sign up to Tyna’s ‘Ozempic Uncovered’ course, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/SzO8olaUTKb  Follow Tyna:  Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/1jWIP6cUTKb  YouTube - https://g2ul0.app.link/TDLQu8fUTKb  Learn more about the studies mentioned, here: Ozempic and cardiovascular disease - https://g2ul0.app.link/acj4iubuVKb  Ozempic and colorectal cancer - https://g2ul0.app.link/ZFpVdfduVKb  Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACEpisodes  My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACBook  Follow me: https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb  Sponsors: ZOE: http://joinzoe.com with an exclusive code CEO2024 for 10% off Colgate - https://www.colgate.com/en-gb/colgate-total Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    The Sleep Scientist (NEW RESEARCH): Sleeping Patterns Can Predict Future Diseases! Sleep Deprivation Is A Silent Killer! The Painful Trick To Fix Poor Sleep - Dr Guy Leschinzer

    The Sleep Scientist (NEW RESEARCH): Sleeping Patterns Can Predict Future Diseases! Sleep Deprivation Is A Silent Killer! The Painful Trick To Fix Poor Sleep - Dr Guy Leschinzer
    Sleep walking, night terrors and even sleep murders, the mysteries of the sleeping brain revealed Professor Guy Leschinzer is a world-renowned expert in Neurology and Sleep Medicine at Guy’s Hospital London. He is also the author of books such as, ‘The Nocturnal Brain’, ‘The Man Who Tasted Words’, and most recently, ‘Seven Deadly Sins’.  In this conversation, Guy and Steven discuss topics such as, how sleep can strip belly fat, the one sleep disorder affecting up to 80% of people, the number one fix for insomnia, and the truth about sleep walking and other night time activities. 00:00 Intro 02:06 Dr. Guy's Fascination With Neurological Conditions 04:15 What Is Dr. Guy's Background 06:26 What Is A Sleep Disorder Centre? 08:01 Why Dr. Guy Chose To Study Sleep 09:19 Is Sleep Important? 11:24 Why We Need Sleep For Good Health 12:59 A Large Percent Of The Population Has Insomnia 17:05 What Is Narcolepsy 18:03 What's Causing So Many Sleep Problems? 21:06 What's The Perfect Sleeping Habit? 24:36 Sleep Quantity Variance Per Person 28:27 The Link Between Sleep And Weight Gain 31:44 Circadian Rhythms Explained 36:17 Blue Lights 39:34 The Main Reasons People Are Struggling With Their Sleep 44:35 Sleep Myths 46:15 Chronotypes 47:55 Where To Start Fixing Sleep Problems 51:25 The Rise Of Sleep Trackers 58:28 What Is The Glymphatic System? 01:01:50 The Link Between Sleep Deprivation And Alzheimer's 01:02:54 Medicating To Help Sleep 01:04:38 Side Effects Of Melatonin 01:06:05 Non-Medical Alternatives To Help Sleep 01:14:38 Surgery To Fix Sleeping Issues 01:17:49 What Would Brain Scans Reveal About Sleep Deprivation 01:19:40 Sleep Deprivation Affects Your Mood 01:21:11 Can Parts Of Our Brain Be Asleep? 01:22:47 Dreaming 01:25:08 Nightmares Explained 01:25:54 Why Do We Remember Some Dreams And Not Others? 01:28:12 Most Upsetting Sleep Disorder Dr. Guy Has Seen 01:31:42 The Sleepwalking Murderer 01:33:51 There Is Help For Insomnia 01:35:18 The Different Types Of Insomnia 01:36:42 The Man Who Tasted Words 01:39:33 Autism And Synesthesia 01:42:22 Are We Guilty Of Crimes If We Are Mentally Ill? 01:45:01 Interventions To Help The Criminally Mentally Ill 01:46:40 Crazy Stories Resulting From A Brain Disorder 01:52:47 How Meeting People With Brain Disorders Has Changed Dr. Guy 01:54:22 Guest's Last Question   You can purchase Guy’s books, here: ‘Seven Deadly Sins’ - https://g2ul0.app.link/aoUzRBkJNKb  ‘The Nocturnal Brain’ - https://g2ul0.app.link/iLrSJxzKNKb ‘The Secret World of Sleep’ - https://g2ul0.app.link/W8nPXVCKNKb  Follow Guy: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/CCqOwVnJNKb  Twitter - https://g2ul0.app.link/YC1itGqJNKb  You can learn more about the study on light exposure patterns, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/2SQaT1KKNKb  Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACEpisodes  My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACBook  Follow me: https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb  Sponsors: NordVPN: https://nordvpn.com/doac - give you 4 extra months on the 2-year plan. There's no risk with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee!' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices