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    The Intellectual Dark Web | Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and More

    enJuly 12, 2020

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    • Intellectual Dark Web: A Group Emphasizing Open DialogueThe Intellectual Dark Web is a diverse group of individuals who prioritize open dialogue and respectful discourse, offering a contrast to the polarized and hostile public discourse.

      The Intellectual Dark Web is a group of individuals with diverse political viewpoints who value open and respectful dialogue, a concept that has become increasingly rare in today's cancel culture climate. Coined by Eric Weinstein, this network of friends includes individuals like Sam Harris, Joe Rogan, and Jordan Peterson, who span the political spectrum. They came together to discuss ideas and challenge each other's beliefs, emphasizing the importance of freedom of speech and association. Despite being labeled as right-wing extremists by the media, the group includes individuals with various political backgrounds, such as socialists and liberals. These conversations offer a refreshing alternative to the polarized and often hostile discourse that dominates public life. In this episode, Ben Shapiro shares conversations with his friends Joe Rogan, Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, Eric Weinstein, and Christina Hoff Summers, highlighting the value of open-minded dialogue and the importance of preserving the ability to discuss ideas freely.

    • A meaningful and stimulating conversation despite disagreementsThrough open dialogue and respect for free speech, even disagreements can lead to valuable conversations and the pursuit of truth.

      Meaningful and stimulating conversations can occur even when there is disagreement on various topics. Michael Shermer, a guest on The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special, praised Ben for their conversation, which he deemed one of the best among the thousands he's had over the past quarter century. Despite their disagreements on various issues, they both agreed on the importance of free speech and open dialogue as the royal road to truth. This episode showcased various conversations on topics like atheism, religion, free markets, and more, highlighting the value of diverse perspectives and the power of intellectual discourse. Additionally, podcasting and the internet have made such conversations possible, and it's crucial to protect these means of distribution against attempts to crack down on them. Policygenius, one of the show's advertising partners, was highlighted for its exclusive life insurance policy with affordable rates and a hassle-free application process.

    • Joe Rogan's Podcast Evolution and Deep ConversationsJoe Rogan's podcast evolved from simple Q&A sessions to insightful conversations with high-profile guests, addressing topics like race, politics, and societal issues with open-mindedness and down-to-earth personality, sparking thought-provoking discussions.

      Joe Rogan, known for his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, got his start with simple Q&A sessions on Ustream and evolved it into a weekly show featuring high-profile guests. His down-to-earth personality and open-mindedness have made him a beloved figure in the industry. During this conversation, we delved into the origins of his podcast, cultural differences in the ongoing race conversation, and his controversial views on the American political system and voting. Rogan believes that acknowledging racial differences, such as those in IQ, is essential for understanding societal successes and failures, despite potential backlash. He also emphasized the presence of white guilt in discussions surrounding these topics. His podcast has become a platform for deep, thought-provoking conversations on various subjects, demonstrating his ability to make even the most random topics interesting.

    • Focusing on cultural differences instead of genetic ones for IQ testsExploring cultural factors for IQ differences can lead to productive discussions and solutions, while accusations of racism hinder progress.

      While IQ tests may show differences between races, focusing on cultural differences rather than genetic ones can lead to more productive discussions and solutions. The speaker acknowledges the complexity of factors influencing different communities, including historical and environmental factors. However, the conversation around IQ and race often devolves into accusations of racism, making it difficult to have an objective conversation. The speaker suggests that a more nuanced approach, considering various factors, would be more beneficial. Additionally, the speaker expresses a preference for a more competent government but appreciates the current gridlock, and suggests exploring online voting for both issues and representatives as a potential solution to the political process.

    • Discussing the need for voter knowledge and potential testsRequiring voters to demonstrate knowledge could ensure informed decisions, but raises concerns of elitism and eugenics. Important decisions deserve well-informed voters, and understanding candidates' actual policies is crucial.

      Having a basic understanding of the issues being voted on could be a necessary requirement for casting an informed vote. This idea was discussed in relation to a potential test or requirement for voters to demonstrate their knowledge before making decisions that could impact millions. Some may view this as elitist or even a slippery slope towards eugenics, but others argue that it's reasonable for important decisions. The conversation also touched upon the symbolic nature of modern voting and the need for voters to be well-informed about candidates' actual policies and plans, rather than just making decisions based on identity or virtue signaling. Additionally, the discussion highlighted the career and impact of Jordan Peterson, a professor who gained notoriety for his criticisms of laws requiring compelled speech and his bestselling book "12 Rules for Life."

    • Consciousness and Human Evolution through Sexual SelectionConscious choices by human females led to the separation of humans from chimpanzees and the preference for competent males, resulting in the propagation of certain traits and the evolution of human beings.

      Consciousness plays a significant role in shaping human evolution through the process of sexual selection. Human females' conscious choices led to the separation of humans from chimpanzees and the preference for competent males. Men, in turn, formed hierarchies and voted on the most competent leaders, who were then chosen by women for reproduction. This process of conscious selection led to the propagation of certain traits and the evolution of human beings. The idea of consciousness as a force of evolution can be traced back to the logos, a concept in Christian theology, which extracts order from chaos. While the relationship between consciousness and matter remains a mystery, it is the force that drives the cosmos and evolution towards a valued goal.

    • The complexities of human behavior and society can't be fully explained by determinismWe're not just passive recipients of external forces, but active agents making choices. Treating each other as divine centers of consciousness is crucial for personal growth and societal functioning.

      While deterministic arguments can be powerful, they don't fully explain the complexities of human behavior and society. The speaker argues that humans are not like wind-down clocks, but rather dissipative structures that pull energy in and make choices. Treating ourselves and others as active agents imbued with logos is essential for personal growth and the functioning of society. The speaker questions whether a strictly deterministic society would work, and suggests that morals are not just facts but have ethical consequences. Ultimately, the speaker and Sam Harris have different perspectives on the role of facts and ethics, and the speaker argues that we need to treat each other as divine centers of consciousness for society to thrive. Sam Harris, known for his work in neuroscience, moral philosophy, and rationality, encourages understanding ourselves and the world to live better lives. Despite their differences, both the speaker and Harris aim to help people live more thoughtfully and ethically.

    • Effective Communication and Uncertainty about the FutureSam Harris emphasizes the importance of clear communication, rationality, and intellectual honesty for persuasion. He expresses uncertainty about the future political landscape and the dangers of identity politics and victimology.

      Clarity and rationality are essential elements for effective communication and persuasion. Sam Harris, with his clear and blunt beliefs, fosters engaging conversations. Regarding the future of the country, Harris expresses uncertainty due to the surprising political landscape, particularly the resilience of Trump despite his missteps. He acknowledges his left-leaning stance on most issues but emphasizes the importance of rationality and the dangers of identity politics and victimology. Ultimately, Harris believes that reason and intellectual honesty are the only things that can persuade anyone, regardless of their background or identity. While he remains optimistic about the durability of intellectual discussions, he is skeptical about their immediate political impact.

    • Reason and Emotions IntertwinedReasoning and emotions are interconnected, emotions can anchor reason and vice versa, and reason alone may not be enough to change deeply held beliefs.

      While reason can be a powerful tool for changing beliefs and perspectives, it doesn't always lead to agreement or understanding. People have the capacity to resist the impact of reasonable arguments, and emotions can play a significant role in the reasoning process. Reasoning is not separate from emotions, as neurological evidence shows that emotion anchors reason. The feeling of doubt or detecting errors in a chain of reasoning is an emotional response. Reason offers a universal point of view, taking into account different perspectives and providing a view from above on any given topic. However, it's important to note that reason alone may not be enough to convince people or change deeply held beliefs. Other factors, such as indoctrination or manipulation, can also shape beliefs and perspectives.

    • Interconnected issues of women and menFocusing on men's issues, like education, employment, and poverty, can ultimately benefit women and lead to a more stable society, according to Christina Hoff Sommers.

      According to Christina Hoff Sommers, a prominent figure in the intellectual dark web, the issues facing women and men are interconnected, and focusing on helping men can ultimately benefit women. Sommers, known for her data-driven approach and defense of classic feminism, expressed concern for the lack of focus on men's issues, particularly regarding education, employment, and poverty. She believes that addressing these problems for men can lead to a more stable society and help close the wage gap. Additionally, Sommers emphasized the importance of an egalitarian movement that considers the needs of both genders. She also highlighted the significant challenges women face in parts of the world where feminist movements have had little impact.

    • Building connections and collaboration between women globally and in the USFostering healthy masculinity in young men through positive role models and opportunities for physical activity is essential, while addressing gender apartheid and women's rights globally requires greater connection and collaboration between American women and women worldwide.

      There is a need for greater connection and collaboration between American women and women around the world, particularly in addressing gender apartheid and women's rights in various parts of the world. Additionally, there is a concern about the lack of purpose and healthy masculinity among young men in society, which can lead to destructive behavior if not addressed properly. To foster healthy masculinity, it's important for young men to have positive role models, such as fathers, and opportunities for physical activity and athletics. However, there is a growing concern that schools are favoring sedentary and emotionally expressive students, leaving rough-and-tumble boys feeling undervalued. Overall, it's crucial to recognize the unique needs and strengths of both women and men and work towards creating environments that support their growth and development.

    • Engaging Boys in Education: Overlooked IssueThe Intellectual Dark Web advocates for mutual civility, respect, and open-mindedness while challenging dangerous strains of leftism in various sectors.

      There is a need for more focus on engaging boys in education, particularly in reading, as they face higher rates of suspension and struggle in school compared to girls. This issue is often overlooked due to the prevalence of activist groups and resources for women and girls. Eric Weinstein, a managing director of Teal Capital in San Francisco and a research fellow at the Mathematical Institute of Oxford University, discussed the concept of the Intellectual Dark Web, which aims to challenge dangerous strains of leftism in news, media, universities, and tech. The Intellectual Dark Web is not a right-wing group, despite popular perception, and its members advocate for mutual civility, respect, and open-mindedness. Eric's work in physics and mathematics led him to insert himself in various political and social issues, and the Intellectual Dark Web represents the first time he's had great company in these endeavors.

    • The Dangerous New Form of Ideology Spreading Through TIMThe speaker warns of a new dangerous ideology, 'left Cartesianism', spreading through technology, intelligence, and media, and calls for action to address it.

      There's a new and dangerous form of ideology, which the speaker calls "left Cartesianism," spreading rapidly through technology, intelligence, and media (TIM). This ideology, which is perceived as regressive despite its self-proclaimed progressive values, has invaded major media companies and tech platforms, leading to a lack of trust in these sense-making organs. The speaker argues that this new left is more dangerous than past excesses on the right and that those on the old left have a responsibility to address it. He believes that this problem is not fair to individuals like the guest on the podcast, and instead of apologizing, he intends to fight back. The speaker also encourages listeners to engage with past Sunday special guests and suggests potential guests for the future. The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special is produced by Mathis Glover, executive produced by Jeremy Boring, associate produced by Katie Swinerton, and booked by Caitlin Maynard. Post-production is supervised by Alex Singaro.

    • A team of talented individuals bring high-quality content to audiencesThe Daily Wire's team of editors, audio mixers, hair and makeup artists, and title graphic creators collaborate to produce The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special in 2020.

      The production of The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special involves a team of talented individuals working together to bring high-quality content to audiences. Jim Nicholl handles the editing, Mike Coromina mixes the audio, Nica Geneva does the hair and makeup, and Cynthia Angulo creates the title graphics. All of this is made possible by The Daily Wire, the production company behind the show, in the year 2020. This collaborative effort results in a polished and engaging listening experience for fans of Ben Shapiro and thought-provoking conversations.

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    Sydney Watson is an Australian writer, YouTuber and political commentator based in Texas. Check out her channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@SydneyWatson SPONSORED BY Fum - Head to www.tryfum.com/TRIG and use code TRIG to save an additional 10% off your order today. SPONSORED BY: ExpressVPN. Go to https://www.expressvpn.com/trigger/ and get an extra 3 months free on a one-year package! Become a Premium Member to receive exclusive benefits https://triggernometry.supercast.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Music by: Music by: Xentric | info@xentricapc.com | https://www.xentricapc.com/ YouTube:  @xentricapc   Buy Merch Here: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: marketing@triggerpod.co.uk Join the Mailing List: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/sign-up/ Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media:  https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry:  Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    #390 - John McWhorter - How Does Anti-Racism Hurt Black People?

    #390 - John McWhorter - How Does Anti-Racism Hurt Black People?
    John McWhorter is a linguist, associate professor of linguistics at Columbia University and an author. The last 5 years has seen race become a primary flash point for culture, news, protests, social justice, hiring, firing, media and politics. But why have race relations come back to the forefront and who is driving this new religion of Woke Racism forward? Expect to learn what John McWhorter thinks of White Fragility and How To Be An Anti-Racist, whether cultural appropriation is an actual thing, how anti-racism actually hurts black people, why black people are attracted to a movement that treats them like simpletons, the problem with the concept of "whiteness" and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Get 15% discount on the amazing 6 Minute Diary at https://bit.ly/diarywisdom (use code MW15) Get 10% discount on your first month from BetterHelp at https://betterhelp.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Buy Woke Racism - https://amzn.to/3ATTdxm Follow John on Twitter - https://twitter.com/johnhmcwhorter  Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    ‘Stop Making Us Pretend’ - Bill Maher

    ‘Stop Making Us Pretend’ - Bill Maher
    Bill Maher is an American comedian, writer, producer, political commentator, actor, and television host. Since 2003, he has hosted Real Time with Bill Maher, a political talk show on HBO. Before that he hosted the similar late-night show, Politically Incorrect (1993–2002). In 2022, Maher started the podcast Club Random. SPONSORED BY GiveSendGo - Go to https://www.GiveSendGo.com/ to check out a better alternative to crowdfunding. Support the people who support freedom! Become a Premium Member to receive exclusive benefits https://triggernometry.supercast.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Music by: Music by: Xentric | info@xentricapc.com | https://www.xentricapc.com/ YouTube:  @xentricapc   Buy Merch Here: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: marketing@triggerpod.co.uk Join the Mailing List: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/sign-up/ Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media:  https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry:  Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Censorship War: What You Need To Know

    The Censorship War: What You Need To Know

    Rob is campaigning for your right to express your opinions!

    There’s been a lot of stories recently around censorship, cancel culture and misinformation. Most recently the controversy involving Joe Rogan; the responses from other creators, celebrities and tech companies speaks volumes of the current situation and general feeling around these issues. We are at a pivotal moment in the creator, media and information space, deciding what it will look like in the future and that includes the role of free speech.

    In this bonus episode Rob talks all about this, why he thinks the reaction of a lot of the world is wrong and what he is planning to do about it!

    KEY TAKEAWAYS 

    • If we don’t stand up now, we will lose the chance to. It will be too late.
    • Who decides what is misinformation? Things are constantly changing in the world, for example, much of what was considered misinformation a few months ago around Covid has now been scientifically proven.
    • No one wants hate speech but where is the line and who is allowed to make these decisions? We need to allow opposing views and discussion otherwise what world will we be living in?
    • Joe Rogan has finally responded to all of the controversy. The main things he wanted to get across were:
      -He aims to interview different people for balance and varied perspective
      -He is the interviewer, the opinions of those he speaks to are just that, their opinions.
      -What was once misinformation can become true information and vice versa

    BEST MOMENTS 

     “Surely we’re all allowed our own opinion on our own podcast?”

    “It’s not about information and misinformation, it’s about opinion –vs-opinion, if we don’t allowed contrarian opinions against our own they we have bigger problems”

     

    “If we allow ultimatums, to get rid of a creator because they don’t agree with them… that’s the thin edge of the wedge and we can’t let that happen”

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    Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “Disruptors”

    “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything”

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