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    The Thanksgiving Quest For The (Scientifically) Best Turkey

    en-usNovember 22, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Science to the Rescue: Solving the Problem of Dry and Flavorless Thanksgiving TurkeyApplying scientific methods like using a thermometer and brining can help home cooks transform their Thanksgiving turkey from a bland and disappointing dish to a delicious and enjoyable meal.

      Science can help solve the common problem of dry and flavorless Thanksgiving turkey. Rebecca Ramirez shares her personal experience of giving up on cooking turkey due to disappointment, and how she sought the help of cookbook authors and food science writers, Nick Sharma and Kenji Lopez Alt, to overcome this issue. They agree that achieving a tasty turkey can be challenging for home cooks, and Kenji even shares his own childhood experience of growing up with unappetizing turkey due to lack of proper cooking techniques and tools. The experts suggest several scientific approaches to cooking a turkey, such as using a thermometer to ensure even cooking and brining to add flavor. By applying these methods, home cooks can transform their Thanksgiving turkey from a bland and disappointing dish to a delicious and enjoyable meal.

    • Beyond minutes per pound: Cooking a juicier Thanksgiving turkeyConsider buying a turkey cut up in parts or using spatchcocking technique for even cooking and better results. Understanding turkey anatomy and biochemistry enhances Thanksgiving feast.

      For a juicier and tastier Thanksgiving turkey, it's important to move beyond cooking based on minutes per pound. Instead, consider buying a turkey cut up in parts or using the technique of spatchcocking, which involves removing the backbone to allow the bird to lie flat. This approach ensures more even cooking and better results. Additionally, understanding some turkey anatomy and biochemistry can lead to a fabulous bird. So next time you're planning your Thanksgiving feast, remember that the science of cooking a turkey goes beyond minutes per pound. Listen to the full podcast on NPR's Shortwave for more insights.

    • Cut up turkey before cooking for even cookingCutting up turkey before cooking solves issue of overcooking white meat and ensures tender dark meat by cooking each part to its optimal temperature

      The best way to ensure a perfectly cooked turkey with juicy white meat and tender dark meat is to cut it up before cooking. This method, as explained by Kenji Lopez Alt, addresses the common issue of overcooking the white meat while waiting for the dark meat to reach the necessary temperature. The science behind this is that different parts of the turkey have different types of muscle fibers: fast twitch muscles in the wings and breasts, which are used in short bursts and cook faster, and slow twitch muscles in the legs and thighs, which are constantly used and require a higher temperature to cook thoroughly. By cutting up the turkey and cooking each part to its optimal temperature, you can enjoy a delicious and evenly cooked Thanksgiving meal. So, instead of relying on your dad's masculinity to prove itself through cutting the turkey at the table, let the butcher or the chef in the kitchen handle it and enjoy a stress-free and delicious Thanksgiving feast.

    • Uneven cooking of turkey due to pan geometryChop turkey into parts for even cooking, ensuring thighs and legs reach desired temperature before breast overcooks.

      When it comes to cooking a turkey, the geometry of a roasting pan can lead to uneven cooking, with the breast getting overcooked and the thighs and legs remaining undercooked. To solve this problem, Kenji Lopez-Alt suggests chopping up the turkey into parts and laying them out flat to ensure every bit cooks evenly. This method allows the thighs and legs, which are relatively thin compared to the breast, to cook faster and reach the desired temperature before the breast does. It's important to note that food safety is still a priority, and cooking poultry to an internal temperature of 165 degrees for a sufficient amount of time is necessary to kill bacteria.

    • Properly cooking and resting a turkey is crucial for food safety and enhancing flavorSalt plays a vital role in brining, enhancing flavor, tenderness, and moisture retention in turkey. Proper cooking and resting ensure food safety and juiciness.

      Properly cooking and resting a turkey, as well as using a food thermometer, are essential for killing bacteria and ensuring the turkey is safe to eat. Additionally, brining the turkey with salt is important for enhancing flavor, tenderness, and moisture retention. The debate between wet and dry brining is ongoing, but Nick Sharma, a molecular biologist turned food writer, emphasizes the importance of salt in any brining process. Salt not only adds flavor but also interacts with the proteins and amino acids in the meat, making it more tender and helping to retain moisture. During cooking, proteins can squeeze out juices, but the use of salt helps to counteract this and keep the turkey moist.

    • Using Salt and Fermented Dairy for Juicier and Tender TurkeyUsing salt helps turkey retain moisture, while fermented dairy like yogurt, kefir, or buttermilk with lactic acid tenderizes the meat for a juicier and more tender bird

      Adding salt to your turkey helps it retain moisture by loosening up the meat proteins. For an even juicier and more tender bird, consider using a fermented dairy brine. Fermented dairy, such as yogurt, kefir, or buttermilk, contains lactic acid which gently breaks down meat proteins, resulting in better texture. If you're traditional and prefer serving a whole turkey at the holiday table, remember that a delicious turkey is the ultimate goal. Embracing the scientific approach to cooking can make the process less daunting and even turn failures into valuable learning experiences.

    • The importance of food and gatherings during the holiday seasonDespite the stress of cooking a turkey during the holiday season, what truly matters is the gathering around the table with loved ones, and the quality of the food is secondary.

      The holiday season, and cooking a turkey in particular, can be stressful. But what's most important is that the food brings people together. Even if the turkey turns out dry or less than perfect, the gathering around the table is what truly matters. As Kenji Lopez-Alt said, "the quality of the food is secondary." This episode of Shortwave was produced by Rebecca Ramirez, edited by Sara Saracen, fact checked by Margaret Serino, with audio engineering by Stu Rushfield, senior direction by Beth Donovan, and senior vice presidency of programming by Anya Grundmann. The podcast is supported by Easycater, a company that helps businesses with food solutions, and Capella University, which offers flexible online degree programs.

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