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    The world after Ozempic

    enMay 13, 2024

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    • New weight loss drugs show promising resultsNew weight loss drugs like Ozempic and upcoming ones offer significant weight loss, but their potential health risks require careful consideration.

      The new weight loss drug Ozempic, and similar drugs in its class, have shown promising results in producing significant weight loss for individuals, with an average of 15% for Ozempic users. The next drugs in this class, such as Minjaro and those coming soon, have even greater average weight loss percentages. However, these discoveries come with conflicting feelings due to the potential health risks associated with obesity and the possibility of these drugs becoming the new norm for weight loss. It's important to consider the potential benefits and risks and continue the conversation around these groundbreaking developments.

    • New weight loss drug mimics natural hormone for sustained weight lossA new drug that mimics a natural hormone to induce feelings of fullness and potentially impact cravings and self-control, has shown promising results in producing sustained weight loss through extensive testing. However, potential negative effects and long-term safety are still being researched.

      A new weight loss drug, which works by mimicking a natural hormone in the body and producing feelings of satiety, has shown promising results in producing sustained weight loss and has undergone extensive testing involving thousands of people. This drug, which works primarily on the brain rather than the gut, could potentially have implications beyond just weight loss, as it may also impact cravings and self-control. However, it's important to note that there are ongoing debates about potential negative effects, such as depression or suicidal feelings in some users. The drug's long-term effects and exact mechanisms are still being researched. Overall, while the early results are promising, it's crucial to continue investigating and monitoring the drug's safety and efficacy.

    • GLP-1 agonists reduce substance use in animalsGLP-1 agonists, such as Ozempic and Wegovy, may decrease substance use in humans by decreasing pleasure derived from these substances, but human evidence is limited and long-term effects are unknown.

      GLP-1 agonists, such as Ozempic and Wegovy, have shown promising results in reducing alcohol, cocaine, and heroin use in animals by around 50%. This effect is believed to be due to a decrease in the pleasure derived from these substances, rather than a simple calorie reduction. However, human evidence is limited, and the long-term effects and potential drawbacks of these drugs are still unclear. Some experts suggest that these drugs could be a "magic pill" that boosts self-control across the board, but more research is needed before making such claims. The drugs may require long-term use to maintain their effects, similar to other medications for health conditions. The exact mechanism of how these drugs work in the brain is still debated and speculative.

    • Weight loss drugs like Ozempic may affect our reward and satiety systemsOzempic and similar drugs may enhance satiety, making us feel full, but potential risks and long-term effects are still being studied.

      Our brains have reward and satiety systems, and some weight loss drugs like Ozempic may work by enhancing the satiety system, making us feel full and satisfied, rather than reducing the reward system for unhealthy foods. However, the long-term effects and potential risks of these drugs are still being studied, and individual experiences may vary. Some people report feeling emotionally dulled while taking these drugs, and there are concerns about increased suicide risk and the need for psychiatric care in some cases. The author's personal experience with Ozempic led her to realize that she had been using food to manage her emotions, and the drug helped her interrupt this pattern. The debate around the brain effects of these drugs and their potential risks continues, and it's important for individuals to consider the potential benefits and risks before making a decision.

    • Weighing the benefits and risks of using weight loss drugsIndividuals must consider both benefits and risks when deciding to use weight loss drugs, balancing potential health improvements against potential side effects and long-term consequences.

      The decision to continue using weight loss drugs like Ozempic is a complex one that involves weighing the potential benefits against the risks. The speaker, who grew up with addiction and mental illness, has found significant benefits in using the drug to manage his weight and associated health risks, such as heart disease and diabetes. However, there are potential risks, including an increased risk of thyroid cancer, which some researchers have identified. The speaker acknowledges the ongoing debate among scientists about the safety of these drugs and the importance of considering the risks of remaining obese. Ultimately, he remains conflicted about the decision but leans towards continuing to use the drug due to the potential health benefits. The speaker's personal experience and research highlight the need for individuals to make informed decisions about their health, considering both the potential benefits and risks of various treatments.

    • Culture and Food Habits Driving Demand for Weight Loss DrugsThe shift from whole foods to processed and ultra-processed foods has led to an obesity crisis, contributing to the demand for weight loss drugs.

      Our culture and food habits have significantly contributed to the demand for weight loss drugs. The modern food industry's shift from whole foods to processed and ultra-processed foods has led to an obesity crisis that is relatively recent and unusual in human history. This change in diet affects our bodies differently, leading to health issues. Meanwhile, in a different context, Mint Mobile offers an affordable alternative to expensive cell phone plans, allowing consumers to save money. The discussion also highlighted Shopify's business solutions and Burrough's Memorial Day sale.

    • Modern diets alter brain function and cravingsModern diets, particularly those high in processed foods, disrupt natural satiety signals and lead to overeating and obesity, driven by food industry marketing and lobbying

      Modern diets, particularly those high in processed and sugary foods, can alter our brain function and cravings, leading to overeating and obesity. This was demonstrated in an experiment where rats given access to nutritious food stopped eating when full, but when introduced to processed foods like cheesecake, they became severely overweight and refused to eat healthy food when it was taken away. This phenomenon is due to the fact that these foods disrupt our natural satiety signals. The food industry, driven by profit, has capitalized on this by marketing unhealthy foods to children and lobbying against regulations. It's not an inevitable effect of modernity, but rather a result of allowing the food industry to systematically poison our minds and bodies. The solution requires not just moral condemnation of the food industry, but also regulation and education to help individuals make healthier choices.

    • The unequal incentive structure and high drug prices hinder access to life-changing drugsThe historical transformation of smoking shows that societal norms can change, but addressing inequality and drug affordability is necessary for equitable access to life-changing drugs

      The current healthcare system can lead to difficult choices between risky medical conditions and risky drugs, but this doesn't have to be the case for future generations. The speaker draws a parallel to the historical transformation of smoking, which was once commonplace but is now being criminalized for public health reasons. The root cause of this issue is the unequal incentive structure that makes it difficult for those who are poor or working class to make healthy choices. The speaker also highlights the issue of drug affordability and the vast price disparities between countries like the US and the UK. To avoid a dystopian future where only a privileged few have access to life-changing drugs, it's crucial to address the underlying issues of inequality and high drug prices. The speaker is optimistic that in the future, drugs like Ozempic will become more accessible and affordable, leading to a healthier and more equitable population.

    • Weight loss drugs and their unknown long-term effectsThe use of weight loss drugs, particularly among children, can have significant consequences on the brain and other body functions, and may exacerbate eating disorders.

      The widespread use of weight loss drugs, particularly among children, could have significant consequences beyond just the food industry. These drugs, which can reduce obesity and its associated health issues, also have unknown long-term effects on the brain and other body functions. Furthermore, there is a risk of exacerbating eating disorders, particularly among young women, who may use these drugs to amp up weight loss efforts. The ease of access to these drugs through telemedicine adds to the concern, as doctors may not be able to adequately assess patients for eating disorders. While the body positivity movement has been important in reducing stigmas around weight, it's crucial to consider the potential risks and consequences of weight loss solutions, especially those with unknown long-term effects.

    • The intersection of body positivity and healthBody positivity and health should not be seen as opposing forces. Embrace self-love while prioritizing health and supporting individuals in their journey towards better well-being.

      The pursuit of good health and body positivity are not mutually exclusive. The story of Shelley Bovey, a pioneer of body positivity in Britain, highlights the harm caused by weight stigma and the importance of self-love. However, she also grappled with the impact of obesity on her own health and questioned whether her advocacy for body positivity meant ignoring the health risks. Ultimately, she believed that both body positivity and health should be prioritized, and it's possible to support individuals in their journey towards better health without shaming or stigmatizing them. The author's personal experience with his niece also underscores the complexity of these issues, as some people may use weight loss drugs with the goal of being a healthy weight, while others may take them to be thin, despite the potential health risks.

    • The Impact of Unrealistic Beauty Standards on Young GirlsUnrealistic beauty standards, as shown by the popularity of models like Twiggy, can harm young girls' self-esteem. Instead, focusing on long-term, sustainable habits through programs like Noom, and teaching kids financial skills with tools like Greenlight, can promote overall well-being and success.

      The pressure to conform to unrealistic beauty standards, as exemplified by the rise of the model Twiggy in the late 1960s, can negatively impact young girls' body image and self-esteem. Additionally, the focus on quick-fix solutions like weight loss drugs may distract from addressing the root causes of health issues, such as systemic problems with the food industry and societal pressures. A more sustainable approach to weight management and overall well-being is to adopt healthy habits through programs like Noom, which use psychology and biology to help individuals understand their food choices and develop long-term, sustainable practices. Parents can also play a role in setting their children up for financial success by using tools like Greenlight, a debit card and money app designed for families, to teach kids essential money skills in a fun and engaging way.

    • Ozempic: A Weight Loss Drug with Promises and PerilsThe new weight loss drug Ozempic offers potential benefits but also risks and ethical concerns. Ensuring access for all is crucial to prevent negative consequences and maximize positive impacts.

      The new weight loss drug Ozempic, while showing promising benefits, also comes with potential risks and ethical considerations. The dream scenario is that many people use it, the benefits outweigh the risks, and it sparks reform. However, there are also concerns that it could lead to negative consequences similar to the diet drug Fen Phen did in the 1990s. The most likely scenario is somewhere in between. The key is ensuring access to the drug for all, not just the wealthy, to prevent a moral catastrophe. The next 8 years are crucial as Ozempic will be affordable for everyone only until it goes off patent. The author of "Magic Pill," Johann Hari, believes the drug will have both positive and negative impacts, and it's essential to protect those at higher risk while making it accessible to those who need it.

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      Key takeaway from this episode of The Gray Area is the collective effort that goes into producing a high-quality podcast. John Aarons produced the episode, Jorge Just edited it, Christian Ayala engineered it, and Alex Overington composed the theme music. Despite being part of Vox, which doesn't have a paywall, the production of this podcast requires resources and support from listeners. To help keep Vox free, listeners are encouraged to visit vox.com/give. This episode, like all others, is a testament to the teamwork and dedication that goes into creating thought-provoking and engaging content for audiences.

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