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    TPP126: How Rob B lost £40,000 on one deal

    enAugust 13, 2015

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    • Rob B shares a costly mistake from his investing careerThorough due diligence and seeking advice from experts are crucial before making an investment decision to avoid potential losses.

      Investing in property comes with risks, and even experienced investors like Rob B can make costly mistakes. In this episode of the Property Podcast, Rob B shares his story of losing £40,000 on one deal. The background to this deal was that Rob saw potential in a property and decided to invest on behalf of his clients as well as himself. However, unforeseen circumstances led to significant financial losses. The lesson from this story is the importance of thorough due diligence before making an investment. Rob encourages listeners to learn from his mistakes and take the time to research the market, property, and potential risks before making an investment decision. Additionally, having a solid team and seeking advice from experts can help mitigate potential losses. The episode also includes a lighthearted segment where listeners are encouraged to express their feelings towards former UK Prime Minister David Cameron by potentially buying the house next to his in Bookingshire. However, the main focus remains on the valuable lessons that can be learned from Rob's experience. For those interested in more details about Rob's background and the deal, his progress journal is available on the Property Hub website, linked in the show notes.

    • Identifying market trends for strategic real estate investmentsStaying informed about market trends and being prepared to act quickly can lead to significant discounts and profitable real estate investments.

      Identifying market trends and timing real estate investments strategically can lead to significant discounts and profitable opportunities. In this case, the speaker was able to purchase a 3-bed semi-detached house in a solid residential area, Saint Helens, for a massive discount of 40% below market value. The developer was in a hurry to sell the remaining units before their half-year figures came out, and they had moved their sales office off-site. The speaker was attracted to the deal due to the discounted price and the fact that it would significantly contribute towards their annual goal of expanding their property portfolio. Additionally, the ability to see the sold prices of similar properties on the land registry provided confidence in the investment's value. This example highlights the importance of staying informed about market trends and being prepared to act quickly when opportunities arise.

    • Buying Real Estate from Developers: Timing and Networking MatterNetwork with developers for real estate deals during specific times of the year. Dedication and the right support, including a specialized mortgage broker, are crucial for success.

      Individuals can take advantage of opportunities in real estate, particularly during end of year or half year when developers are looking to clear their books. This was the experience of RMP, who successfully bought properties through this strategy. However, it requires dedication and networking to find such deals. RMP's team of sources constantly liaised with developers, and individuals can do the same. However, RMP made two mistakes that cost them the deal. First, they prioritized their business over the investment and assumed they would receive special treatment from the developer. Second, they used a mortgage broker who didn't specialize in buy-to-let and put them into a product that was unsuitable for their needs. The lender, Paragon, was particularly slow, which further delayed the deal. So, in short, individuals can find great real estate deals by networking with developers and being aware of opportunities during certain times of the year. But it requires dedication and the right support, including the right mortgage broker and product. Avoiding these mistakes can lead to successful investments.

    • Working with a mortgage broker is crucial for a successful property transactionInvesting in a mortgage broker's expertise can save time, help avoid lender delays, and prevent missing out on potential portfolio additions

      Working with a mortgage broker, especially a buy-to-let specialist, is crucial for a successful and efficient property transaction. Although some investors might think they can save money by going directly to a lender, the importance of speed and a broker's expertise cannot be overstated. A good broker has valuable insights into lenders' processing times and can help investors avoid those known for delays. The cost of not having a broker can be significant, as demonstrated by the story of an investor who missed out on a great deal due to a lender's unexpected delay and subsequent deal termination. The opportunity cost of missing out on a potential addition to the portfolio can be substantial, making the investment in a broker a worthwhile one.

    • The real cost of not completing a property dealMissing a property deal means more than just financial loss. It's an opportunity cost, time investment, and emotional toll. Be prepared for completion to maximize gains.

      The real cost of not completing a property deal goes beyond the financial expense. While the speaker mentions paying out around £1,000 in fees, the bigger cost was the missed opportunity to complete the deal and reach their annual goal. There was also the time cost invested in the deal that could have been spent elsewhere. The emotional toll of losing the deal was also significant. On the bright side, those who did complete the deal were rewarded with desirable properties that rented quickly and at full price. The lesson learned is to be prepared for the unpredictability of property deals and to ensure readiness for completion or exchange when asked. This includes having all necessary documents ready and communicating holiday plans.

    • Preparation and a specialist broker are vital for successful property transactionsBeing prepared and working with a specialist broker are essential for successful property transactions. Ignoring these rules can lead to regrets and potential issues.

      Being prepared and working with a specialist broker are crucial when dealing with property transactions. Preparation is key because good deals don't wait, and a specialist broker can help navigate the complexities of the process. Ignoring these rules, even with experience, can lead to regrets and potential issues. Property investing is a journey with its ups and downs, and it's essential to learn from mistakes and not repeat them. Lastly, remember the importance of setting goals and keeping the bigger picture in mind during challenging times. Time is a significant factor in property deals, and it's essential to move quickly while maintaining momentum.

    • Staying focused on goals in real estate investingSetting clear goals and using resources like progress journals and cost-effective currency transfer services can help investors overcome challenges and succeed in real estate.

      Setting and maintaining a clear goal is crucial in real estate investing, even when faced with unexpected challenges. Progress journals, like those in the Property Hub, can provide valuable accountability, advice, and motivation to help investors stay on track. Additionally, resources like Revolut, which offers currency transfer at interbank rates with no added costs, can save investors money and make their investment journey more efficient. By staying focused on goals and utilizing helpful resources, investors can overcome obstacles and ultimately succeed in real estate.

    • Negotiating for the Best Real Estate DealsMastering negotiation techniques and finding great deals are key to success in real estate investing, leading to increased equity and cash flow.

      Finding the best deals in real estate and negotiating effectively are crucial for building equity and improving cash flow. The hosts of The Prophecy Podcast, Rob and Rob, appreciate their listeners' reviews, which help them reach a wider audience and provide valuable insights. Last week, they thanked Wes Village for leaving a 5-star review and encouraged listeners to do the same. They also announced the upcoming topic of the podcast, which will focus on five negotiation techniques to help listeners secure the best deals. The hosts emphasized the importance of buying at the best price, as it sets the foundation for future success in real estate investing. They also hinted at some exciting news to be shared in the next episode. Overall, the key takeaway is that by mastering the art of finding great deals and negotiating effectively, investors can significantly enhance their financial position in real estate.

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