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    Trump Picks His VP, and Jack Smith's Election Interference, with Victor Davis Hanson and Jonathan Turley | Ep. 819

    enJune 24, 2024

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    • Presidential debate rules, biasThe 2024 presidential debate rules may favor Donald Trump due to potential moderator biases and microphone usage, while Joe Biden only needs to avoid major gaffes or health concerns.

      The upcoming 2024 presidential debate marks the official start of the campaign season, and the stakes for Joe Biden's performance are low, as he just needs to avoid any major gaffes or health concerns. Meanwhile, the rules of the debate, such as the moderators' potential biases and the use of microphones, may actually benefit Donald Trump. Additionally, Megan Kelly shared her personal experiences in Scandinavia, reflecting on the history and differences between Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, and their roles during World War II. She emphasized the importance of the United States as the leader of the free world and the responsibilities that come with that role.

    • Presidential Debate PressureThe upcoming debate carries significant pressure for both candidates, with polling data showing a close race and historical precedent suggesting the importance of voter sentiment and candidate performance.

      The upcoming presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump carries significant pressure for both candidates, with the debate date being earlier than usual due to concerns about Biden's performance and potential substitution within the Democratic Party. The polling data shows a close race, with Trump performing better in battleground states than suggested by national polls. Historical precedent, such as the 2016 race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, highlights the limitations of relying too heavily on polling data. Ultimately, the election outcome may hinge on intangible factors like voter sentiment and candidate performance, rather than poll numbers.

    • 2024 Election, Women and Black VotersThe 2024 presidential election will be a battle for key voting demographics, particularly women and black voters. The Democratic Party is concerned about Trump's eroding margins with women and determined to hold onto the black vote, but they are struggling to maintain support among black women and face criticism for negative campaigning.

      The 2024 presidential election is shaping up to be a battle for key voting demographics, particularly women and black voters. The Democratic Party is concerned about Trump's eroding margins with women, but they are determined to hold onto the black vote, which is crucial to their electoral success. The party has launched an ad campaign labeling Trump a "convicted criminal," but its effectiveness is questionable due to public perception of the prosecutions as politically tainted. The Biden campaign is also struggling to maintain support among black women, who have shifted away from the party in significant numbers since the 2020 election. The lack of national unity within the Democratic Party and Biden's perceived inability to connect with voters on positive issues may also hinder his reelection prospects. The Black vote is critical to Biden's reelection, and the drop in support among this key constituency has caused alarm within the party. The Biden campaign is under pressure to go on the offensive against Trump, but doing so may backfire if it comes across as mean-spirited or angry, further alienating voters.

    • Trump's Warning on BidenDespite perceived decline, Biden should not be underestimated in the debate according to Trump. Tech elites and wealthy individuals are shifting their allegiance towards Trump, driven by the existential nature of the election.

      Donald Trump believes Joe Biden should not be underestimated in the upcoming debate, despite his perceived decline in performance since 2016. Trump recalled his dominance over Paul Ryan in a past debate and warned against setting low expectations for Biden. Another key point is the shift in attitudes among tech elites and wealthy individuals towards Trump, with some openly supporting him despite previous opposition. This change in allegiance is driven by their perception of the election as an existential vote, rather than a personal preference for Trump. The absence of prominent conservative voices like Bill Crystal, who have become vocal critics of Trump, is also noteworthy. The changing political landscape and the personal motivations of these individuals have significantly impacted the 2022 election landscape.

    • 2020 Election Agendas vs Personal FeelingsThe 2020 election is less about personal feelings towards candidates and more about their agendas. Some conservatives' animosity towards Trump stems from career concerns, and the Veepstakes is a proxy fight between Tucker Carlson and Rupert Murdoch, highlighting the importance of understanding and appreciating a candidate's policies and strengths.

      The 2020 presidential election is no longer about personal liking or disliking of candidates, but rather voting for or against their agendas. The animosity and vitriol towards President Trump from some conservatives stem from feelings of being overshadowed and having their careers affected by him. The Veepstakes on the Republican side has become a proxy fight between Tucker Carlson and Rupert Murdoch, with J.D. Vance being a potential vice presidential pick despite his past criticisms of Trump. The ability to understand and appreciate Trump's policies and strengths, despite personal disagreements, is crucial for selecting a viable vice presidential candidate.

    • Running mates and immigrationSpeaker believes Trump's potential running mates Glenn Yunken, Marco Rubio, and Doug Burgum are capable and loyal, while criticizing Joe Biden for ineffective border control and offering amnesty to some undocumented immigrants, sharing a personal story about his nephew's struggle with immigration and urging Trump to address recent rapes and murders by illegal immigrants at the debate.

      During the discussion, the speaker expressed that among potential running mates for Donald Trump, Glenn Yunken, Marco Rubio, and Doug Burgum have the ability to run the country and are loyal to Trump, unlike Mike Pence who had a natural antipathy towards him. Regarding immigration, the speaker criticized Joe Biden for offering amnesty to undocumented spouses and children while failing to address the issue effectively at the border. The speaker also shared a story about his nephew and the difficulty his Korean wife faced in obtaining a green card and working in the US. The discussion then turned to two recent cases of young girls being raped and murdered by illegal immigrants, which the speaker urged Trump to bring up at the debate.

    • Immigration policies and crimeUse of euphemisms in reporting about crimes committed by undocumented individuals sparks controversy, with critics arguing it downplays the law-breaking nature of the actions and disconnects political elites from communities most affected

      The ongoing debate around immigration policies and border control in the US is deeply connected to the issue of crime committed by undocumented individuals. MSNBC's discussion of a rape case involving an undocumented immigrant sparked controversy when they referred to him as an "undocumented individual" instead of an "illegal immigrant." Critics argue that the use of euphemisms downplays the severity of the situation and the law-breaking nature of the perpetrator's actions. The debate also touches on the perceived disconnect between political elites and the communities most affected by illegal immigration, with some arguing that the elites' abstract ideologies come at the expense of those dealing with the consequences. The issue is particularly sensitive for communities of color, who feel that they are not represented by the coastal elite and are suffering from the fallout of open border policies.

    • Race, Class, Politics, Free SpeechUnexpected alliances and changing voting patterns are emerging as race, class, and political elites shift, with some Black and Latino communities identifying with white middle class concerns and feeling betrayed by their elites. Immigration and free speech remain contentious issues, with academic institutions and the government seeking to limit free speech.

      The dynamics of race, class, and political elites are shifting, leading to unexpected alliances and changing voting patterns. For instance, some Black and Latino communities are starting to identify with the concerns of the white middle class, feeling betrayed by their elites. Meanwhile, the debate over immigration and the use of terms like "illegal immigrants" continues to be contentious. Additionally, the fight for free speech is becoming increasingly crucial as academic institutions and the government seek to limit it. For example, Harvard's Dean Lawrence Bobo's recent statement suggesting faculty criticism of the university could lead to sanctions has raised concerns. Overall, these issues highlight the complex interplay of race, class, politics, and free speech in contemporary America.

    • Higher education intoleranceIntolerance in higher education has led to a lack of exposure to diverse perspectives, limiting students' educational experience and threatening democratic values through the suppression of free speech.

      The culture of intolerance and orthodoxy in higher education has led to a generation of speech phobics who believe that opposing views should not be tolerated. This narrow view of free speech has been embedded in students from an early age, resulting in a lack of exposure to diverse perspectives and limiting their educational experience. This intolerance is manifesting in attempts to silence figures like former President Trump, as seen in efforts to gag him during legal proceedings. The suppression of free speech is a significant threat to the democratic system and the exchange of ideas. It is essential to promote open dialogue and diverse perspectives to foster a well-rounded education and a healthy democracy.

    • Politicization of Justice SystemThe Manhattan DA's case against Donald Trump raises concerns about politicization and selective prosecution, with potential implications for due process, free speech, and the rule of law.

      Power, whether it's a customs agent at JFK or a judge in a political prosecution, can be intoxicating and lead to abuse. In the Manhattan DA's case against Donald Trump, the gag order extension and the selective prosecution raise concerns about politicization of the justice system. Even those on the left, like former Governor Andrew Cuomo and CNN's Senior Legal Analyst, have acknowledged this issue. The appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel in the Mar-a-Lago case also raises constitutional concerns, and his removal could be a possibility. The importance of due process, free speech, and the rule of law are being tested in these situations, and it's crucial for us to remain vigilant and demand accountability.

    • Mar-a-Lago case judgingJudge Cannon's decision to allow arguments in the Mar-a-Lago case, despite no controlling authority, preserves potential appeal records and upholds the importance of vetting and confirmation processes, transparency, and accountability in US attorney appointments and investigations.

      Judge Cannon's decision to allow arguments in the Mar-a-Lago case, despite no controlling authority, is seen as good judging as it allows for a record to be created for potential Supreme Court appeal. The constitutional issue at hand is the requirement for confirmation or appointment for a US attorney, which the Department of Justice is trying to circumvent. This goes against the framers' intent for vetting and confirmation processes. The lack of transparency and accountability from Merrick Garland regarding investigations and policies is also a concern. In the context of free speech, the January 6th events and subsequent investigations have become a third rail, with Pelosi's recent acknowledgement of responsibility raising questions about the January 6th Committee's commitment to transparency. The importance of allowing for open and honest discussions, even if disagreeable, is essential for maintaining a healthy democracy.

    • Capitol riots and criminalizing speechWhile addressing security measures and criminal charges from the Capitol riots, it's essential to distinguish between punishing conduct and criminalizing speech. Focus on established crimes instead of charges that punish speech.

      While the January 6 Capitol riots led to significant security measures and criminal charges, it's crucial to distinguish between punishing conduct and criminalizing speech. The author argues against the use of charges like seditious conspiracy, which punishes speech, and instead suggests focusing on established crimes. The Supreme Court is currently considering cases related to these charges and the role of presidential immunity, which could have direct implications for former President Trump. Despite the media focus on divisive cases, the Supreme Court generally operates in a cooperative manner, with the justices working together to reach decisions on the majority of issues.

    • Supreme Court impartialityDespite political attacks, the Supreme Court maintains dissenting voices and upholds free speech, emphasized by Professor Turley in his new book.

      The current political climate has led to a contentious relationship between the Supreme Court and certain political factions, with accusations of justices being "robotic" or ideological. However, as Professor Turley emphasized during a recent interview on The Megan Kelly Show, it's important to remember that there are always dissenting voices on the court, and the attacks on the court's impartiality are misguided. Additionally, the left's opposition to the court stems from their loss of control over its decisions, particularly regarding free speech. Turley's new book, "The Indispensable Right to Free Speech in an Age of Rage," is a learned, bracing, and ultimately buoyant exploration of these issues, providing valuable insight into the importance of free speech and the role of the Supreme Court in protecting it. Despite the challenges facing the court and the ongoing debates, Turley remains optimistic about the future of free speech and the importance of upholding this fundamental right.

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