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    • Proposed UAP disclosure law faces setbackOpposition from defense and intelligence agencies halted the creation of a UAP Records Review Board, but the UAP disclosure act still includes provisions moving forward for Congress approval.

      A proposed UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) disclosure law, which could have led to significant transparency and independent review of government files on UAPs, has faced a setback. The legislation, which included the creation of a Presidentially appointed UAP Records Review Board (URRB), has been gutted due to opposition from defense and intelligence agencies. This proposed panel would have been a genuine attempt to declassify secret files on UAPs, but it is now dead and buried. Despite this setback, it's important to remember that progress towards UAP disclosure has faced challenges before and this doesn't mean it's over. The UAP disclosure act, while a pale shadow of the original proposal, still includes provisions that will go before Congress for approval.

    • Disappointing turn of events for UAP disclosure legislationDespite setbacks, advocates for UAP disclosure remain hopeful and point to past examples of government transparency on sensitive topics.

      The recent developments in the UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) disclosure legislation have been a disappointment for many, as what was initially a bipartisan effort has been gutted and emasculated behind the scenes. The legislation, which was intended to assist in UAP disclosure, has been transformed into a weak and ineffective version, leaving many feeling that they have been played by certain congressmen and the defense aerospace industry. Despite this setback, some advocates for UAP disclosure remain hopeful and point to past examples where governments have released documents related to sensitive topics despite initial resistance. The identity of those responsible for derailing the legislation is known, and their strong ties to the aerospace industry have been exposed. While this is a disheartening turn of events, the fight for transparency and accountability in the UAP phenomenon continues.

    • Possible delayed UAP disclosure due to political resistancePolitical divisions and resistance may prevent an official UAP disclosure, potentially leading to uncontrollable revelations from whistleblowers

      The anticipated UAP legislation disclosure may not happen due to political divisions and resistance, leading some to predict a potential "catastrophic disclosure" where whistleblowers may come forward with information about UFOs, crash wreckage, and recovered biologics, despite the Pentagon's assertion that there is no credible evidence of ET or non-human intelligence activity on Earth. The resistance to the legislation represents a missed opportunity for an independent panel to adjudicate the truth about UAPs, and the continued withholding of information is fueling anger and frustration among those who believe in the existence of these phenomena. The delay in disclosure may eventually lead to uncontrollable revelations, as the story cannot be suppressed indefinitely.

    • Public's curiosity about unexplained phenomena outpaces official informationBusinesses can reach engaged audiences by advertising on UFO and JFK assassination podcasts, despite lingering stigma, to encourage open dialogue and advance understanding of these phenomena

      The public's awareness and curiosity about unexplained phenomena, such as UFOs and the JFK assassination, often outpace the information released by authorities. Podcast advertising from Lipson Ads can help businesses reach engaged audiences like these, with options for host endorsements or widespread ad placements. Regarding UFOs, despite the lack of definitive answers, the public is increasingly aware that something unusual is happening. The stigma surrounding the topic, perpetuated by media and political figures, can hinder progress in understanding these phenomena. However, efforts to reduce this stigma and encourage open dialogue are crucial for advancing our knowledge.

    • Media stigma hinders UAP investigationDespite increasing acknowledgement and legislation, lack of transparency and critical questioning from media prevents proper investigation into UAPs due to media stigma and military-industrial complex influence.

      The stigma surrounding the UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) issue persists in mainstream media, preventing aggressive questioning and investigation despite increasing acknowledgement and legislation. Ross and Bryce express their frustration with the lack of transparency and the need for more journalists to ask critical questions about UAPs. Ross believes that the military-industrial complex holds significant sway over the administration, making proper scrutiny and accountability difficult. He suggests that the combined resources of major news outlets could push for answers more effectively. Bryce acknowledges the issue's importance and shares Ross's impatience, emphasizing the need for more questioning and transparency.

    • UAP disclosure legislation may not ensure full transparencyThe new UAP disclosure law allows the president to withhold records if national security outweighs public interest, potentially hiding illegal or criminal UAP activities.

      The recent UAP disclosure legislation may not lead to full transparency as it allows for the president to withhold records if the potential harm to national security outweighs the public interest in disclosure. This catchall provision could prevent the public from being informed about any illegality or criminality related to UAPs. The discussion also highlighted the importance of asking questions and pushing for transparency beyond the government's official narrative. Ultimately, it was suggested that true disclosure may come from brave whistleblowers rather than government-led initiatives. Additionally, if a significant amount of information about UAPs is held by private enterprise, it remains unclear how the public can access that information.

    • Debate over legal rights to non-human tech in aerospace industryGovernment vs. companies rights to non-human tech in aerospace industry raises innovation vs. national security concerns, needs clearer legislation and dialogue.

      There is ongoing debate about the legal rights and responsibilities surrounding non-human technology discovered in the private aerospace industry. Some argue that companies should be able to keep this technology, while others believe the government should have a right to claim it. The concern is that government confiscation could stifle innovation and progress in aerospace technology. However, there is also a national security imperative to protect this information. Ultimately, there is a need for clearer legislation and more open dialogue to address these complex issues. The recent push for UAP and NHI disclosure is a step in the right direction, but more needs to be done to foster curiosity and understanding about the potential implications of these discoveries.

    • Bipartisan cooperation on UAP legislation, but concerns over transparencyThe potential benefits of understanding UAPs outweigh the risks, but transparency and collaboration are crucial for effective investigation and public trust.

      The proposed legislation regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) was an opportunity for bipartisan cooperation on a sensitive issue, but the continued suppression of potential evidence raises concerns about transparency and leadership. The risk of dangerous disclosure is a valid concern, but the potential benefits of understanding UAPs, including the possibility of nonhuman intelligence engagement with the planet, outweigh the risks. The use of eminent domain by the government to obtain UAP evidence is justified as it acts on behalf of the people and has not been effectively addressed by private aerospace companies. Ultimately, the failure to seize this opportunity for transparency and collaboration may lead to a continued lack of understanding and potential misinformation.

    • Government Transparency and UAP DisclosureSpeakers advocate for responsible UAP disclosure, an end to denial, and a global conversation about implications and potential origins of UAP and extraterrestrial life.

      While there is ongoing debate about the extent of government disclosure regarding unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) or extraterrestrial life, both parties agree that transparency and honest conversation are crucial for society. The speakers believe that the government has the right to investigate and handle UAP and related findings, but they also advocate for disclosure to the public in a responsible manner. They argue that the current denial phase of this issue needs to end, and it should be replaced with open dialogue and a global conversation about the implications of UAP and potential extraterrestrial life. The speakers express optimism that more people are becoming aware of the issue and that the conversation is shifting from whether UAP exist to questions about their origin and intentions. They believe that this is a critical conversation for society to have and that it should be handled in a calm, organized, and direct manner to avoid potential catastrophic disclosure.

    • Friends and journalists discuss ongoing investigationsDespite complexities, friends and journalists continue to pursue truth and expect new developments in 2024, emphasizing transparency and ongoing knowledge pursuit.

      Despite disagreements and complexities surrounding certain issues, friends and investigative journalists continue to engage in meaningful discussions to uncover the truth. The topic at hand is significant and ongoing, with new developments expected in 2024. The ambiguous term "need to know" highlights the importance of transparency and the ongoing pursuit of knowledge, while also acknowledging the barriers to information. The hosts, Lenny and Ross, aim to provide more frequent updates on their investigations and encourage their audience to stay informed.

    Recent Episodes from Need To Know with Coulthart and Zabel

    Zero Doubt

    Zero Doubt
    In this episode, Ross Coulthart reports from an undisclosed location in the U.S., sharing insights from the SCU conference in Huntsville, which concentrated on scientific approaches to UAPs. He reflects on a recent interview with Colonel Karl Nell, discussing Nell’s remarks about long-standing interactions between non-human intelligence (NHI) and humanity. Meanwhile, Bryce Zabel in Los Angeles connects the 80th anniversary of D-Day to contemporary secrecy around UAPs, emphasizing the impact of such secrecy on public trust and innovation. They explore the skepticism about governmental transparency on UAPs and consider how the political landscape might influence the push for disclosure, especially with the upcoming elections. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Swagger and Secrets

    Swagger and Secrets
    In this episode, hosts Bryce Zabel and Ross Coulthart delve into the complexities of UAP investigations, spotlighting the AARO's dubious reporting and the Pentagon's evasion in acknowledging UAP incidents. They explore the recent Eglin Air Force Base encounter and the broader implications of drone sightings that challenge national security. The hosts critique the media's failure to engage deeply with these issues, emphasizing the need for greater transparency and investigative rigor in covering UAP and drone encounters. Featuring pilot testimonies and expert analysis, this episode uncovers the ongoing secrecy and the quest for truth in the increasingly convoluted field of ufology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    UAP Burnout

    UAP Burnout
    It's an issue that's touched many in the UAP community, and worthy of a long discussion: fatigue from covering UAP, interacting with the community, fending off the flamers and trying to stay grounded. Bryce shares the tale of his ten-year hiatus while Ross commends Curt Jaimungal's recent decision to 'step away' for a while. But there's also hope, says Ross, citing three members of Congress and their attempts to interview an Air Force pilot over his 2023 sighting - and the video he captured. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    More UFO Lies & Coverup

    More UFO Lies & Coverup
    Ross and Bryce take turns teeing off on the Defense Department's report that was supposed to chronicle the US government's history of dealing with the UFO/UAP issue. Among their conclusions about the reports "conclusions:" It's more Pentagon obfuscation to deter public attention; a kneejerk polemic against former AARO head Sean Kirkpatrick's critics; not a hint of historical review; and from a couple of lawmakers who talked to Ross: Congress is NOT letting this issue go. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Adios, Voldemort

    Adios, Voldemort
    "Voldemort," in this podcast, is Bryce's new name for Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the now-former head of AARO, the Defense Department's "All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office." Bryce and Ross rip Kirkpatrick's exit statements, including his assertion that a soon to be released Pentagon report will say it's found no evidence of aliens, only allegations circulated repeatedly by UFO claim advocates. The other big event in the episode: "Need to Know," the song! Bryce explains the history of the song he co-composed - and we play it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Is This the Year?

    Is This the Year?
    Bryce and Ross begin 2024 with a quick look back at the big events of last year: David Grusch's revelations and the gutting of the Schumer Amendment to the Defense bill. Then they look ahead to this year and an upcoming House Oversight Committee hearing, Lue Elizondo's book and Grusch's op-ed piece on the heels of the US government slightly loosening what he's able to reveal. And Ross drops a big hint about what could be a very big story: new data from the James Webb Space Telescope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    UFO Gatekeepers Strike Back

    UFO Gatekeepers Strike Back
    Disappointment and some disagreements in this episode, as Ross and Bryce review the amended version of Sen. Chuck Schumer's disclosure language in the new Defense bill. Ross blames "lickspittle Congressmen" in the pockets of the aerospace companies for turning Schumer's disclosure proposals into a "flaccid limp lettuce leaf." The two set the table for a future discussion on what both believe would be a very bad idea: "catastrophic disclosure." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    JFK and UFOs?

    JFK and UFOs?
    Approaching the 60th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Bryce and Ross examine the similarities between the efforts to conceal the truth about the President's death and concealing the truth about UFO/UAP. Also: as predicted in the last episode, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick is, indeed, leading AARO. So who will succeed him? And will that person bring a different opinion about whistleblower David Grusch? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Same Old UFO Song

    Same Old UFO Song
    Ross and Bryce catch up on several developments of the past few weeks, including the latest report from AARO. Ross calls out what he labels "completely disingenuous" statements by the agency's head, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, downplaying the UAP reports the agency reviewed in the 2023 US Government fiscal year. Ross calls the report "The Big Yawn." Ross and Bryce disagree on whether private aerospace firms, who've spent millions of their own dollars on crash retrieval, should be forced to turn any physical evidence over to the government. And Bryce reviews the high points of 1948, a banner year that saw dozens of credible UFO/UAP sightings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    UFO Word Games

    UFO Word Games
    Ross and Bryce are back with tough words for what they call the "word games" being played by the Department of Defense, NASA and others in the US government about the evidence - or lack of evidence - regarding what we know about UAP and the possibility of non-human intelligence. Bryce scorches NASA Director Bill Nelson over his "lack of evidence" comments, and Ross takes an AP reporter to task for apparently not even reading a government report before questioning officials about that very report. And the hosts do a "lighting round" of comments on several other recent UAP developments. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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    99 Chinese Balloons?

    99 Chinese Balloons?
    This is the podcast from our first live YouTube episode - a quick follow-up to the Big Balloon Mystery. Ross and Bryce try to unravel what's known and unknown - and what we can learn from top government officials saying he's "not ruling out anything" regarding the providence of the three objects shot down over the Arctic, the Canadian Rockies and Lake Huron. Ross excoriates the mainstream media for "getting in line." And Bryce says teh overall UAP question is bound to be an element in the 2024 Presidential campaign. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    EP: 182 Aliens Have Bodies with Tim Alberino

    EP: 182 Aliens Have Bodies with Tim Alberino

    Last week, in a historic moment, three former military officials told Congress that they believe the government knows much more about UFOs/UAPs than it has publicly revealed. Whistleblower testimony in a Congressional House Oversight hearing revealed startling testimony alleging factions of the government, military contractors, and agencies are in possession of "non-human" biologics. David Grusch, a former U.S. intelligence official, told the congressional panel he is "absolutely" certain the U.S. government is in possession of non-human technology and biologics and has had some of this material for decades. To unwrap what happened on this day of testimony, and try to make sense of the entire situation, we welcome back author and explorer Tim Alberino. Tim walks us through the actual happenings in the Congressional Oversight subcommittee, the whistleblower testimony, and the implications of the testimonies if true. He also gives his personal take on the breaking news and how he believes Christians in particular should think about, process, and contextualize these shocking whistleblower revelations. 

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    UFOs and Aliens and Drones and Balloons: Understanding the U.S. Sky Wars

    UFOs and Aliens and Drones and Balloons: Understanding the U.S. Sky Wars
    Since a big white Chinese spy balloon floated across the ocean and into U.S. airspace, the United States has shot down four objects over North American skies. What are we looking at, and what are we shooting at? Are these objects American? Are they Chinese? Are they human? To tell the full story of this bizarre month in aerial objects—from the balloon to the aerial shoot-out to the UFO freak-out—we’ve got two guests: former Atlantic correspondent and Substack writer James Fallows and the science writer and noted extraterrestrial-object researcher Mick West. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com. You can find us on TikTok at www.tiktok.com/@plainenglish_ Host: Derek Thompson Guests: James Fallows & Mick West Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices