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    Unveiling Pluto, with Alan Stern and Neil deGrasse Tyson

    en-usJuly 15, 2016

    Podcast Summary

    • New Horizons' Brief Encounter with Pluto and CharonNew Horizons flyby of Pluto and Charon yielded valuable data, leaving scientists excited for future discoveries in the Kuiper Belt

      The New Horizons mission, led by Alan Stern, provided a brief yet significant encounter with Pluto and its moon Charon, instead of slowing down and entering orbit as some had hoped. This flyby, which occurred on July 14, 2015, allowed for valuable data collection but left many wanting more. Scientists like David Grinspoon, who studied comparative planetology and icy moons, are excited about the findings and are looking forward to the release of their upcoming book, "Chasing New Horizons," which will delve deeper into the discoveries made during this mission. Despite the brief encounter, Pluto continues to intrigue scientists and the public alike, and the Kuiper Belt, the region beyond Neptune, remains ripe for further exploration.

    • Pluto Exploration: A Scientific AchievementThe Pluto exploration mission, led by New Horizons, yielded surprising discoveries about Pluto's complex atmospheric conditions and diverse surface features, demonstrating humanity's determination and ingenuity in exploring the solar system.

      The Pluto exploration mission, led by New Horizons, was a remarkable scientific achievement due to its high-speed journey and innovative use of gravitational assistance from larger planets. Despite the challenges of reaching such a distant object, scientists were able to complete the mission in just over a decade. Pluto, named for the god of the underworld, is relatively small compared to Earth's moon. The mission, which involved over 2,500 people from various institutions and corporations, yielded surprising discoveries upon arrival. The team was particularly amazed by Pluto's complex atmospheric conditions and diverse surface features. This mission showcases humanity's determination and ingenuity in exploring the unknown reaches of our solar system.

    • Pluto's Complex and Fascinating SurprisesThe Pluto mission revealed that even the smallest planets in our solar system can have complex geological features, challenging our assumptions and broadening our understanding.

      The Pluto system turned out to be much more complex and fascinating than expected, both in terms of its geological features and the public response to its exploration. Pluto's surface, with its varied terrain, glaciers, canyons, and even 1,000 foot high methane crystals, defied the assumptions of being a simple, pockmarked object. The public's response was equally surprising, with a record-breaking number of web hits, newspaper coverage, and global interest. Scientists were thrilled to be stumped by these discoveries and the new information challenged existing biases about what we can expect from small planets. Pluto's features share some similarities with other objects in the solar system, like Neptune's moon Triton, but also possess unique characteristics, such as the geologically young Sputnik Planum, which challenges our understanding of this dwarf planet's activity after billions of years. Overall, the Pluto mission has shown us that even the smallest planets in our solar system can harbor surprising and complex geological features.

    • Pluto's Methane Atmosphere and Unique MetrologyPluto's methane ice turns to gas, creating a unique atmosphere and meteorology. Its surface features bright and dark areas, with potential for life beneath and future habitable conditions.

      Pluto, despite having extremely low atmospheric pressure, is considered to have an atmosphere due to the presence of methane ice and gas. This methane ice turns into gas at Pluto's temperatures, leading to a unique meteorology with evaporating and condensing methane. The surface of Pluto features bright and dark areas, with the bright areas being relatively fresh ice and the darker areas being irradiated and mixed with organic matter. Pluto's internal heat from radioactive decay, along with the presence of liquid water and organic matter, suggests the possibility of life existing beneath its surface. In the far future, when the sun goes red giant, Pluto may experience warmer temperatures and potentially habitable conditions.

    • Pluto's Planetary Status and Future PotentialDespite debate over its planetary status, Pluto's exploration and potential for future habitation emphasize the importance of continued research and discovery in planetary science.

      Pluto, which was once considered a planet, is now classified as a dwarf planet due to a 2006 International Astronomical Union (IAU) vote. However, there is ongoing debate about the legitimacy of this vote and whether Pluto should be considered a planet again based on scientific definitions. Regarding the future, as the Earth becomes increasingly warm and potentially uninhabitable, Pluto could become a new frontier for human habitation. The discovery of new information about Pluto from the New Horizons mission has not significantly changed how we view it, but it has emphasized the importance of understanding what defines a planet and the significance of exploring different celestial bodies. Ultimately, whether or not Pluto is a planet is a matter of scientific classification, but its exploration and potential for future habitation highlight the importance of continued research and discovery in the field of planetary science.

    • The debate over the definition of planets and dwarf planetsThe distinction between planets and dwarf planets is a matter of semantics and classification, with Pluto being a prominent example of the confusion. A more precise classification system would be more helpful in understanding celestial bodies.

      The distinction between planets and dwarf planets is a matter of classification and semantics, rather than a fundamental difference in their astronomical properties. Neil deGrasse Tyson and David Morrison had a lively discussion about this topic, with Neil arguing that dwarf planets should be considered a separate category, while David maintained that they are still planets. The confusion arises from the fact that when people think of planets, they often consider them to be large, rocky bodies orbiting the sun, but the International Astronomical Union (IAU) defines a planet as an celestial body that orbits the sun, is spherical in shape, and has cleared its orbit of other debris. Pluto, which is smaller and has not cleared its orbit, was reclassified as a dwarf planet in 2006. However, many planetary scientists, including David Morrison, continue to refer to Pluto as a planet, as they study its geology, atmospheric processes, and other planetary features in their research. Ultimately, the word "planet" is not a useful term anymore, as it encompasses a wide range of celestial bodies with different properties. A more precise classification system, such as distinguishing between rocky and gaseous planets, or planets with rings, would be more helpful in understanding the different types of celestial bodies in our solar system and beyond.

    • Our evolving understanding of planetsThe IAU definition of a planet is debated and may change, with dwarf planets and other celestial bodies challenging traditional definitions. The discovery and exploration of these bodies continues to expand our knowledge.

      Our understanding of planets and their definitions is evolving as we discover new exoplanets and reevaluate the status of previously defined bodies like Pluto. The International Astronomical Union (IAU) definition of a planet is currently not inclusive of the vast majority of planets in the universe, and there may be future revisions to this definition. The debate over the classification of dwarf planets versus planets is ongoing, but the discovery and exploration of these celestial bodies is what truly excites scientists and the public alike. The Pluto controversy even sparked emotional responses from children, highlighting the deep connection people have with the planets in our solar system. The ongoing New Horizons mission continues to expand our knowledge of Pluto and its moons, including Charon.

    • The connection between Pluto's discovery and Greek mythologyPluto, an underdog dwarf planet, captivates Americans with its mythological ties through the discovery of its moons, particularly Sharon, named after a Greek mythological ferryboat driver, and Charon, which might have once had an ocean and atmosphere.

      The discovery of Pluto and the solar system's planets happened around the same time in children's education, leading to an extra attachment for Americans. Pluto, an underdog and oddball planet, had an additional connection through the discovery of its moon, Sharon, named after the ferryboat driver from Greek mythology. Sharon, along with four other moons, orbits Pluto and appears much larger and brighter than our moon due to its icy composition. Charon, Pluto's largest moon, has a dark pole, which might indicate it once had an ocean and a atmosphere. This mythological and scientific connection between Pluto and Greek mythology adds to the fascination with this dwarf planet.

    • Moon Sharon's impact on Pluto's climateDiscovered during New Horizons flyby, Sharon's large size and stable orbit help regulate Pluto's climate, making it a double planet and potentially influencing its habitability

      The moon Sharon orbiting Pluto plays a significant role in Pluto's climate and may be considered a double planet due to the middle point of their gravity being outside Pluto's physical body. Sharon's large size compared to Pluto helps stabilize Pluto's climate, preventing excessive wobbling, much like Earth's moon. This discovery was made during the New Horizons flyby, which also revealed Sharon's unique features, including a dark northern cap and a tipped orbital system that keeps one side permanently facing Pluto. Sharon's size and influence on Pluto's climate are crucial factors in understanding the potential for life on this dwarf planet.

    • New Horizons discovers a new object in the Kuiper BeltNew Horizons discovered a new object in the Kuiper Belt, estimated to be 4 billion years old and about the size of Chesapeake Bay. The Kuiper Belt, a vast outer region of our solar system, is home to millions of objects including dwarf planets and comets.

      New Horizons, the fastest spacecraft ever launched from Earth, has completed a flyby of a new object in the Kuiper Belt, a vast outer realm of our solar system. This object, yet to be named, is about the size of Chesapeake Bay and is estimated to be 4 billion years old. New Horizons fired its engines in November 2018 to target this object, which is about a billion miles past Pluto. The spacecraft has enough fuel for a Voyager-like mission, but not for a third destination. The discovery of this object and the Kuiper Belt in general led to the reclassification of Pluto as a dwarf planet. The Kuiper Belt is home to millions of objects, including dwarf planets and comets. It's a belt-like region, concentrated along the plane where the planets orbit, and it's the largest part of our solar system in terms of number of objects and volume of space it occupies. New Horizons' flyby of this new object will provide valuable data about this early era of our solar system. The spacecraft is expected to reach the edge of the solar system around 2030.

    • Is there a large planet named Planet 9 in our solar system?Astrobiologist David Grinspoon and Neil deGrasse Tyson discuss the possibility of a large, Earth-sized planet named Planet 9 in the outer solar system. While some scientists suggest its existence, others have reservations about the naming convention.

      There may be a large, potentially Earth-sized planet named Planet 9 in the outer reaches of our solar system. This hypothetical planet, which could have a mass up to 10 times that of Earth and orbit around 20 times farther from the sun than Neptune, was a topic of discussion between astrobiologist David Grinspoon and StarTalk host Neil deGrasse Tyson. According to Grinspoon, the existence of this planet was suggested by two Caltech astronomers and has been a subject of debate among scientists. Alan Stern, the principal investigator of the New Horizons mission to Pluto and beyond, was asked about Planet 9, and while he acknowledged the possibility, he also expressed some reservations about the naming convention, which he felt disrespected the legacy of Clyde Tombaugh, the discoverer of Pluto. Despite the ongoing debate, the search for Planet 9 continues, adding to the intrigue and excitement in the field of planetary science.

    • Predicting a New Planet in Our Solar SystemResearchers infer a new planet's existence based on gravitational calculations and observed patterns, potentially leading to new discoveries and a better understanding of our solar system's history.

      A team of researchers has made a prediction about the existence of a new planet in our solar system based on gravitational calculations and the behavior of other objects in the Kuiper Belt. This method involves inferring the existence of a source of gravity based on observed patterns, rather than directly discovering the mass. The researchers believe that this could be one of many large planets that were cast out during the chaotic formation of the solar system. While the discovery of this new planet is not yet confirmed, it could potentially lead to further discoveries and a better understanding of our solar system's history. It's important to note that there have been many claims of discovering new planets in the past, some of which have not panned out. The existence of periodic mass extinctions on Earth, which some have attributed to the influence of a companion star to the sun, is also a subject of debate. Overall, the scientific process involves making predictions and testing them through observation and experimentation.

    • Expanding our understanding of the solar systemNew discoveries suggest many large planets, even Earth-size ones, could exist in the outer solar system, including the Oort cloud. Some may have been ejected from the inner solar system and could be wandering in interstellar space.

      Our understanding of the solar system continues to expand, and the discovery of Planet 9 or Planet X could be just the tip of the iceberg. Modern planetary science suggests that there could be many large planets, even Earth-size ones, in the outer solar system, including the Oort cloud. These planets may have been ejected from the inner solar system during the formation of the giant planets, and some may be wandering in interstellar space. The Oort cloud, a swarm of icy bodies at the edge of the solar system, is a vast and complex structure, and the discovery of comets coming from this direction would be a clear indication of their origin. The idea of planets being flung from their host stars is an emergent discovery, and the passion and excitement of scientists studying these phenomena is a testament to the ongoing exploration and discovery in the field of astronomy.

    • Rogue Planets and the Possibility of Extraterrestrial LifeRogue planets, ejected from their solar systems, could potentially harbor life due to residual heat sources, expanding the search for extraterrestrial life beyond our solar system

      Rogue planets, which have been ejected from their solar systems, could potentially harbor life despite the absence of a host star. During a StarTalk episode featuring Alan Stern, Neil deGrasse Tyson and the guests discussed the possibility of Neptune being thrown out of our solar system and the implications of such an event. They also pondered the idea that these planets might still have residual heat sources, enabling life to evolve. These planets would be unaware of the concept of a host star as they wander through space. While the idea of stray planets may not require stars, it opens up intriguing possibilities about the existence of life beyond our solar system. Overall, the conversation emphasized the vastness and complexity of the universe and the ongoing search for answers about its mysteries.

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