Logo
    Search

    Weirdhouse Cinema: RoboCop (1987)

    enDecember 01, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • The power of community connectionsBuilding relationships with neighbors and growing your community can bring a sense of security and preparedness, while familiar landmarks in media can transport us to new and imaginative places.

      Building connections within your community can bring about a sense of security and preparedness, especially during uncertain times. Neighbor to Neighbor, a California volunteer's network, emphasizes the importance of relying on neighbors and growing your community. Meanwhile, in a different context, the 1987 sci-fi action satire, Robocop, showcases how recognizable landmarks in Dallas served as a stand-in for futuristic Detroit in the film. This connection between the real and the fictional world highlights the power of familiarity and its ability to transport us to new and imaginative places. Whether it's through community engagement or cinematic exploration, these examples remind us of the significance of connection and discovery.

    • Robocop's violent surface hides deeper commentaryRobocop's satire on privatization and loss of humanity is often overlooked due to its violent nature

      Robocop, a violent 1980s action film, is more than just mindless entertainment. For the speaker, the memory of watching it for the first time is connected to the debut of a greasy fast food item, the Baconator from Wendy's, in 2007. This experience highlights how the film's satire and commentary on societal issues, such as privatization and the loss of humanity, can be overlooked if one focuses only on the violence. The film's premise of a city's police department being run like a business by the corporation Omni Consumer Products (OCP) serves as a commentary on the potential dangers of privatization and the pressure to conform to a soulless machine. The struggle for humanity in the face of such pressures is a universal theme that adds depth to the film beyond its violent surface.

    • A commentary on worker dehumanization and labor exploitationRoboCop explores themes of power, control, redemption, and the dehumanization of workers in a dystopian world where people are treated as replaceable parts.

      "RoboCop" is more than just a dystopian action movie about a part-human, part-robot police officer. It's a commentary on the dehumanization of workers and the exploitation of labor by corporations. The film's themes of power, control, and redemption can be applied to various professions, not just law enforcement. The heart of the movie lies in the idea that people are treated as tools to be used and discarded, a concept that is literalized in the character of RoboCop himself. Despite its violence and mature content, "RoboCop" remains an excellent film that delivers satire, action, and emotion. It's a thought-provoking exploration of what it means to be human in a world where people are often seen as replaceable parts.

    • Community and connection in uncertain timesBuild stronger neighborhood relationships, appreciate community and connection, even in small ways, and reevaluate art and media for deeper meaning

      Community and connection are essential in uncertain times. Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang discussed their experiences watching a film and the importance of building stronger neighborhood relationships through the Neighbor to Neighbor California volunteer network. Meanwhile, Astepro was highlighted as a fast-acting solution for allergy sufferers, providing relief from nasal congestion, runny and itchy noses, and sneezing. Regarding the film discussion, Joe and Matt shared their experiences with different versions of the same movie, emphasizing the importance of community and connection, even in small ways. The directors, Paul Verhoeven and Rudger Hauer, collaborated on several Dutch films, with Verhoeven eventually transitioning to Hollywood to create a unique string of films, known for their carnal excess. Despite criticism at the time, some of these films, like Robocop and Starship Troopers, have since been recognized as satires, showcasing Verhoeven's thought-provoking approach to storytelling. In summary, the importance of community, the power of connection, and the value of reevaluating art and media are key takeaways from this discussion.

    • Exploring humanity and societal decay through satire and excessRobocop uses satire and excess to critically examine themes of humanity, identity, and societal decay, showcasing the importance of understanding deeper meanings and the impact of dual roles and balanced storytelling.

      "Robocop" is a thought-provoking film that uses satire and excess to explore themes of humanity, identity, and societal decay. Director Paul Verhoeven was initially slow to understand the satire, but his wife's intervention helped him see the deeper meaning. Writers Edward Neumeier and Michael Miner, who both had a significant impact on the film, also went on to work on other satirical and action-packed projects. Peter Weller's dual role as Alex Murphy and RoboCop was crucial, as his gaunt appearance and expressive features perfectly suited the character. The film's balance of action and emotion, as well as its intentional use of silly robot movements, make for a unique and memorable viewing experience.

    • Actors' performances added depth to RobocopPeter Weller's nuanced portrayal of Robocop and Nancy Allen's compassionate Anne Lewis brought humanity to the original film, enhancing its appeal and success.

      The performance and physicality of Peter Weller as Robocop went beyond just a mechanical portrayal, adding depth and visual appeal to the character. The counterbalancing movements in his actions made Robocop look more human and less robotic, creating a more engaging and visually interesting on-screen presence. Despite the changes in actors for later sequels, Nancy Allen's portrayal of Anne Lewis stood out as a strong and compassionate presence in the original film, adding depth to the story and providing a human element to the otherwise robotic cast. Her ability to keep cool under pressure and think for herself made her an invaluable ally to the Robocop character. Overall, the performances of Weller and Allen contributed significantly to the success and appeal of the original Robocop film.

    • Nancy Allen's character in RoboCop is defined by her compassion and strength, not her relationship with the male lead.Nancy Allen's character in RoboCop offers a complex portrayal of a capable action hero, while Dan O'Herlihy and Ronny Cox deliver chilling performances as corporate villains pushing for profit and power.

      The character of Nancy Allen in "RoboCop" is not defined by her relationship with the male lead, but rather by her compassion and strength. Her transformation, including her short haircut, adds depth to her character as a capable action hero. On the corporate side, Dan O'Herlihy's character, while not a traditional villain, sets the wheels in motion for much of the wickedness in the film. He is portrayed as an aloof and distant figure, almost like a god, pushing for the creation of Delta City with little understanding of the consequences for human life. Ronny Cox's Dick Jones is another corporate villain, who, while not on screen as often, is instrumental in the destruction caused by OCP. Jones' character is ruthless in his pursuit of profit, making him a formidable adversary for the heroes. Both Dan O'Herlihy and Ronny Cox deliver compelling performances in their respective roles, adding layers to the exploration of corporate greed and power in "RoboCop."

    • Robocop's Corporate Characters: Dick Jones and Bob MortonRobocop's Dick Jones and Bob Morton are intricately developed corporate characters, each representing lawful evil in their own way. Dick Jones is overtly villainous, while Morton hides his malicious intentions behind a charming exterior.

      The 1987 sci-fi classic Robocop features complex and intricately developed corporate characters, with Ronny Cox's Dick Jones and Miguel Ferrer's Bob Morton standing out as two notable examples. While Dick Jones is an older, colder, and more calculating executive, Morton is a young, ambitious businessman who is just as detestable, albeit in a different way. Both characters represent lawful evil to a certain degree, with Dick Jones being more overtly villainous and Morton hiding his malicious intentions behind a charming exterior. Their performances add depth to the film's exploration of the alliance between big capital and big crime, showcasing how corporate ambition and ruthless determination can lead to moral compromises and devastating consequences.

    • Actors' diverse performances elevated RoboCop beyond a standard action flickRoboCop's memorable villains and supporting cast, led by Kurtwood Smith, Ray Wise, and Paul McCrane, added depth and complexity to the film, enhancing the overall experience.

      The casting choices in "RoboCop" played a significant role in bringing the characters to life and enhancing the overall film experience. Kurtwood Smith's performance as the evil and transcendently nasty Clarence Boddicker, who was against type for the actor, added depth to the villain role and made it more memorable. Similarly, Ray Wise as Leon Nash and Paul McCrane as Emile brought unique energies to their henchmen roles, with Emile's tragic fate adding a layer of complexity to the film's violence. Robert DuPee's portrayal of Sergeant Reed added notable experience and presence to the police cast. These actors' diverse backgrounds and performances helped elevate the film beyond a standard action flick and continue to make "RoboCop" a standout in the genre.

    • Finding hope and positivity in unexpected placesRobocop's Felton Perry brought positivity amidst chaos, acknowledging unsung heroes like special effects artists, and the importance of community connections were discussed.

      Even in the midst of chaos and villainy, there are small performances that shine and bring positivity. In Robocop, Felton Perry's character, Donald Johnson, is an example of this. Despite being surrounded by robots murdering his colleagues, he remains unfazed and brings a positive energy to the scenes. This character, played by Felton Perry, who has a long career in television and film, is a reminder that there are beacons of hope and connection in uncertain times. Moreover, the discussion highlighted the importance of acknowledging the contributions of unsung heroes, such as the special effects artists who bring films to life with their innovative work. Rob Bottin, a cinematic gore master, is one such artist whose makeup effects in Robocop and other films have left a lasting impact on the industry. Additionally, the conversation touched on the importance of community and connection, as exemplified by the Neighbor to Neighbor volunteer network. In a world that can sometimes feel disconnected, this organization empowers individuals to build meaningful social bonds and prepare for emergencies. Lastly, the discussion introduced the Technically Speaking podcast, which explores the future of technology and AI. Intel, a leader in implementing AI in revolutionary technology, is at the forefront of this field and sheds light on the potential of AI to change our world for the better.

    • Robocop's Special Effects: The Brainchild of Craig Hayes, Phil Tippett, and Basil PolidorusCraig Hayes created and designed Robocop's ED-209 robot, while Phil Tippett handled the stop motion sequences. Basil Polidorus composed the memorable score.

      The 1987 sci-fi action film "Robocop" features impressive special effects, particularly in the creation of the menacing ED-209 robot and the stop motion sequences. Craig Hayes was credited as Ed's creator and designer, as well as the designer and constructor of the large prop for ED-209. Phil Tippett, a renowned master of stop motion and monster special effects, was responsible for the stop motion sequences. Tippett's creations have graced numerous classic films, including the Star Wars series, Robocop sequels, and his own project, Mad God. Basil Polidorus, an American composer, provided the catchy and effective score for the film. Polidorus worked extensively with directors John Milius and Paul Verhoeven, contributing to iconic scores for films like Conan the Barbarian and RoboCop.

    • Satirical media segments in RoboCopThe film uses news reports, commercials, and TV shows to satirically depict a violent, profit-driven society, contrasting horrific events with commercialized distractions, and highlighting themes of desensitization and consumerism.

      Paul Verhoeven's "RoboCop" uses media segments, including news reports, commercials, and TV shows, to satirically depict a hyper Reaganite near-future world ruled by profit-driven corporations and desensitized to violence. These segments provide a grim backdrop to the plot, contrasting the horrific events with commercialized distractions. The satire is evident in extended sequences, such as news reports glossing over mass killings and commercials for items like artificial hearts and nuclear family board games. This juxtaposition positions the audience within the film's world, highlighting themes of escalating violence, military buildup, and consumerism. The media segments serve as a commentary on society's desensitization to violence and the commercialization of tragedy, making the gritty details of the plot even more impactful.

    • How entertainment and consumerism mask societal issuesRobocop critiques capitalist exploitation and societal decay, showing how mindless entertainment and consumerism can distract from societal problems, with OCP's privatization plans symbolizing the loss of community trust and allegiance.

      Robocop explores the idea of how mindless entertainment and capitalist consumerism can act as an escape for cruel and sadistic individuals in a desperate and impoverished society. The film depicts this through scenes of characters, including a sadistic murderer, being entertained by repetitive sitcoms. This theme ties into the overall setting of Detroit, which has suffered from industrial decline and is on the brink of collapse. OCP, the company running the local police department, is interested in buying up property cheaply and privatizing the local government, making the community's trust and allegiance seem cheap. The media segments in the movie establish this broader world, with Detroit's loss of prosperity visually communicated through abandoned factories and empty buildings. OCP's plan to replace the existing city with a privately owned settlement called Delta City further emphasizes this theme.

    • Symbolic depiction of OCP headquarters as a menacing, inverted triangle skyscraperOCP's disregard for human life and pursuit of technological advancements led to the creation of RoboCop, revealing their corrupt and dangerous nature.

      In Robocop, the OCP headquarters is symbolically depicted as a menacing, inverted triangle skyscraper that crushes people beneath it, reflecting the corporation's ruthless control over society. The most memorable scene at the headquarters involves the malfunctioning of the violent police robot, ED-209, during a demonstration, resulting in a gruesome and violent death of an executive. This incident leads to the introduction of the RoboCop program as a replacement, highlighting the corporation's disregard for human life and their pursuit of technological advancements, even at the cost of innocent lives. The scene showcases the corrupt and dangerous nature of OCP and sets the stage for the rest of the film.

    • RoboCop's first day leads to identity crisisRoboCop's transformation into a law enforcer raises questions about violence, identity, and humanity, as his human past and machine present collide, leading to an identity crisis.

      "RoboCop" explores the themes of violence, identity, and humanity. During his first day on the job, Murphy experiences extreme violence at the hands of Boddicker's gang, leading to his death and eventual transformation into RoboCop. As RoboCop, he becomes an effective but cold and mechanical law enforcer, causing both fear and awe among citizens. However, when his old partner Lewis recognizes Murphy's unique tics and mannerisms, she uncovers his true identity, leading to a crisis. Despite Morton's insistence that RoboCop is just a machine, his malfunctions and emerging memories challenge this notion, raising questions about the nature of identity and what it means to be human.

    • Robocop's journey to reclaim his humanityRobocop explores themes of identity, morality, and corruption through a part-human, part-robot law enforcer's pursuit of justice, revealing the dangers of militarized police forces and poorly designed technology.

      "Robocop" is more than just a sci-fi action film about a part-human, part-robot law enforcer. It explores themes of identity, morality, and corruption. A particularly moving scene involves Robocop's attempts to remember his past life and reclaim his humanity. Another intriguing sequence is when Robocop investigates his own murder and encounters the members of Clarence Boddicker's gang. However, his pursuit of justice is hindered by his programming to protect OCP's interests. The film also critiques the dangers of militarized police forces and poorly designed technology, such as the lethal ED-209 robot. Despite these challenges, Robocop manages to escape and rediscover his identity with the help of Lewis, revealing that Murphy's face and brain are still beneath the robot exterior. Overall, "Robocop" offers a thought-provoking commentary on technology, humanity, and the complexities of justice.

    • A deeper look at Robocop's humanityRobocop is more than violence, exploring humanity through a poignant scene and a surprising twist, leaving a lasting impact.

      "Robocop" is more than just a violent action film; it's a thought-provoking exploration of what it means to be human. During a tender moment after the mask comes off, the actors deliver a well-acted scene that leaves a lasting impact. Dick Jones, motivated by self-preservation and the desire to bring back ED-209, arms Boddicker's gang with military-grade weapons for a showdown with Robocop. The ensuing action scenes are gory and violent, but effective in their execution. Robocop ultimately defeats Boddicker and goes after Dick Jones, but is bound by his directive not to act against OCP. In a surprising twist, the old man turns against Jones, leading to a memorable and iconic scene where Robocop reveals his true identity to the old man. Despite his progress in reclaiming his humanity, Murphy is not fully free and the film ends with a poignant and thought-provoking conclusion.

    • Robocop's limited victory against OCPRobocop achieves a partial victory against OCP, but still faces control from the powers that be, raising questions about humanity, freedom, power, and redemption.

      In "Robocop," the titular character achieves a limited victory against the corrupt OCP corporation, but he is not completely free. He must outsmart the system and reclaim a portion of his humanity, which is symbolized by the old man acknowledging him and asking for his name. However, the victory is not complete as the powers that be still hold significant control over life and death and resurrection. The film features intense action sequences, such as the final showdown with Boddicker, but also contains moments of humanity and hope. The partial victory ties into the theme of the film, which explores the blurred lines between man and machine, and raises questions about power, control, and redemption. Overall, "Robocop" is a thought-provoking and action-packed film that leaves the audience reflecting on the meaning of humanity and freedom.

    • California: A Playground for AllCalifornia offers relaxation, adventure, and entertainment for all ages with its wine country, surfing waves, Redwood Forest, ski slopes, and shopping districts. Plan your trip at visitcalifornia.com.

      California is more than just a state; it's a playground for adults and children alike. Imagine a playground with a wine country, surfing waves, Redwood Forest, ski slopes, and shopping districts. Sounds like a dream vacation, right? Well, this is what California offers. The conversation suggests that California has something for everyone, making it the ultimate destination for various experiences. Whether you're looking for relaxation, adventure, or entertainment, California has got you covered. The next time you plan a trip, consider California as your go-to destination and discover all the exciting things it has to offer at visitcalifornia.com.

    Recent Episodes from Stuff To Blow Your Mind

    Smart Talks with IBM: AI & the Productivity Paradox

    Smart Talks with IBM: AI & the Productivity Paradox

    In a rapidly evolving world, we need to balance the fear surrounding AI and its role in the workplace with its potential to drive productivity growth. In this special live episode of Smart Talks with IBM, Malcolm Gladwell is joined onstage by Rob Thomas, senior vice president of software and chief commercial officer at IBM, during NY Tech Week. They discuss “the productivity paradox,” the importance of open-source AI, and a future where AI will touch every industry.

    This is a paid advertisement from IBM. The conversations on this podcast don't necessarily represent IBM's positions, strategies or opinions.

    Visit us at ibm.com/smarttalks

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Weirdhouse Cinema: The Dungeonmaster

    Weirdhouse Cinema: The Dungeonmaster

    In this episode of Weirdhouse Cinema, Rob and Joe return to the glorious world of 80s Charles Band productions with 1984’s “The Dungeonmaster,” a supernatural dreamscape with eight directors starring Jeffrey Byron, Richard Moll and Leslie Wing. It’s time to reject the devil’s reality and substitute your own! 

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Related Episodes

    Episode 7

    Episode 7

    The Taj Ma Mall, Addictmatch.com and 104.X have partnered up to make all drugs legal! Chippy Squiggles is so excited and high he can barely get all of the commercials out of his mouth. If drugs aren't your thing be sure to check out a new religious grocery store chain, a theme park for doomed families or simply buy a new condo in the heart of what's left of your city. 

    This episode is brought to you by Wordly and Ramps.com

    Margaret Atwood's Oryx and Crake

    Margaret Atwood's Oryx and Crake
    Yay! Another novel about a dystopia caused by a virus! This time, Canadian Margaret Atwood, author of The Handmaid's Tale, presents her view of an over-engineered world of capitalism run amok, leaving it vulnerable to mad science. Despite its length, it's a simple tale of love and morality, and, as it is the first in the MaddAddamm trilogy, there must be some hope left. Another in our Sunday literary series during the pandemic.

    Thoughts? Comments? Potshots? Contact the show at:
    https://www.discreetguide.com/

    Follow or like us on podomatic.com (it raises our visibility :)
    https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/deardiscreetguide

    Support us on Patreon:
    https://www.patreon.com/discreetguide

    Follow the host on Twitter:
    @DiscreetGuide

    The host on LinkedIn:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferkcrittenden/