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    Why are there so many illegal weed stores in New York City? (Part 2)

    enApril 05, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding New York's Complex Legalization ProcessNew York's cannabis legalization process has faced complications, with thousands of illegal stores emerging and the future of the market remaining uncertain, despite opportunities for social and economic equity applicants

      The legalization of cannabis in New York, which was intended to provide opportunities for social and economic equity applicants and generate revenue for historically over-policed neighborhoods, has been a complex process with unforeseen challenges. A year ago, the team at Search Engine set out to understand how thousands of illegal weed stores had suddenly appeared in New York. They discovered that New York's experiment in legalization, like many others, has had its share of complications. The story of New York's malfunctioning legalization process is not unique, as each state runs its own experiment in legalization with varying degrees of success. The interview with Alex Norman, a former Wall Street financial advisor turned successful weed delivery service owner, sheds light on the potential benefits and uncertainties of this new industry. The legalization of cannabis presents opportunities for those with past arrests related to the substance, but the market's future remains uncertain. The finer details of the law, such as licensing and taxation, were left vague, leaving many questions unanswered.

    • New York's cannabis control board faces complex challengesThe cannabis control board in New York faces conflicting demands, prioritizing staffing and implementation details while balancing free market principles and reparations.

      New York's legalization of weed and the subsequent formation of the cannabis control board presented complex challenges, striking a nerve with various groups due to its conflicting elements. For some, it was an interference with free market principles and a form of reparations, while for others, it was a step towards reparations and legalization, but with concerns about police enforcement and the details of implementation. The board, led by Tremaine Wright, faced the daunting task of ironing out these wrinkly details, with Chris Alexander, head of the Office of Cannabis Management, prioritizing staffing and a 6-month delay make-up plan. Reuben McDaniel, president and CEO of DASNY, was also brought in to help future weed store owners build their shops. The meetings were recorded and published on YouTube, marking the beginning of a lengthy process to establish New York's cannabis market.

    • Illegal weed sales surge in NYC amidst regulatory confusionThe rapid legalization of cannabis in NYC resulted in a surge of illegal shops, making it difficult to determine who is in charge and ensuring taxes are paid

      The rapid legalization of cannabis in New York City led to a surge in illegal weed sales, with ownership often hidden behind complex layers of LLCs. Some of these shops appear to be run by legacy operators and Yemeni Americans, who had previously sold weed from bodegas. However, many are operated by outsiders looking to make a profit, contributing to a regulatory confusion that makes it difficult to determine who is actually in charge. Willie Mack, a cannabis entrepreneur and activist, expresses concern about the influx of illegal shops and the lack of taxes being paid. The situation echoes the issues faced in California and raises questions about the long-term impact on the industry and community.

    • New York's Legal Cannabis Market Faces Competition from Illegal MarketDespite good intentions, New York's legal cannabis market struggled to compete with an established illegal market during the first year of legalization. The licensing process for legal businesses was lengthy and required extensive documentation, leaving new businesses at a disadvantage.

      The illegal cannabis market in New York flourished during the first year of legalization, while the legal market was bogged down by red tape and good intentions. When the legal market finally began issuing licenses, new business owners faced fierce competition from the unregulated market, which had a year-long head start and could offer lower prices. The licensing program, known as the CARD program, was designed to help individuals with cannabis-related convictions and legit businesses obtain licenses. However, the application process was lengthy and required extensive documentation. When the first licenses were approved, only a handful were granted, leaving many aspiring business owners waiting. From a legal perspective, some lawyers noted that the program had potential loopholes and room for improvement. Overall, the process of legalizing cannabis in New York was complex and challenging, but a historic moment for those granted licenses to sell a plant that was once illegal.

    • Potential legal issues for equity applicants in New York's cannabis programWell-intentioned efforts to prioritize social equity in New York's adult-use cannabis program may have been illegal, leading to potential lawsuits and complications for those who had already been approved for licenses, while thousands of illegal smoke shops continued to operate.

      Well-intentioned efforts to prioritize social equity in New York's adult-use cannabis program may have been illegal, leading to potential lawsuits and complications for those who had already been approved for licenses. This technicality, which required everyone to apply at the same time according to the MRTA, could have significant implications, including delays and financial losses for those who had already made business commitments. The absurdity of the situation was highlighted by the fact that thousands of illegal smoke shops continued to operate in violation of the law. Despite these challenges, those with approved licenses were still required to follow strict regulations, such as finding a suitable location that was not too close to schools, churches, or other cannabis businesses, and securing government funding to open their stores.

    • Securing Private Investment for New York's Social Equity Fund in Legal Weed IndustryNew York's $200 million social equity fund for the legal weed industry only secured $50 million from the state, leaving $150 million to be sourced from private investors. Hesitancy from investors due to inexperience of recipients and intense competition from illicit market, as well as rising interest rates, complicated the investment landscape.

      The legal weed industry faces significant financial challenges due to limited access to traditional banking and investment opportunities. In New York, the state attempted to address this issue through a social equity fund, but securing private investment proved to be a significant hurdle. The fund, intended to provide $200 million in total, only secured $50 million from the state, leaving $150 million to be sourced from private investors. However, many potential investors were hesitant due to the lack of experience of the fund recipients in the cannabis industry and the intense competition from the illicit market. Additionally, rising interest rates further complicated the investment landscape. Ultimately, the social equity fund faced significant challenges in securing the necessary private investment, highlighting the ongoing financial challenges faced by the legal weed industry.

    • Challenges in providing timely financial support for social equity entrepreneursThe New York Social Equity Cannabis Investment Fund faces challenges in delivering financial support to licensees, leading to frustration, disappointment, and some turning to illegal sales. Communication and action from law enforcement are also concerns.

      The New York Social Equity Cannabis Investment Fund, designed to help social equity entrepreneurs in the cannabis industry access capital, has faced challenges in providing timely financial support to its licensees. This has resulted in frustration and disappointment for many, with some turning to illegal sales. A resident from Queens highlighted this issue during a public comment session, expressing concern over the presence of unlicensed sellers on Jamaica Avenue, even with police nearby. The lack of communication and action from law enforcement was noted as a contributing factor to the persistence of these illegal operations. Overall, the process of implementing the fund and navigating the complexities of the cannabis industry has proven challenging, leaving some feeling let down and uncertain.

    • Navigating New York's Cannabis Legalization: Balancing Regulation and ReparationNew York's cannabis legalization faces challenges in balancing regulation and addressing past harms, with activists and lawyers advocating for a fair system

      As New York navigates the legalization of cannabis, there are complex issues arising around enforcement and regulation. Activist Willie Mack, who once advocated against cannabis arrests, now feels let down by the state for not addressing the illegal market. The inconsistency between the strict regulations for other industries and the lack of enforcement for cannabis has caused confusion and backlash. Lawyer Paula Collins, who represents some of the illegal shop owners, cautions against arrests and respects their constitutional rights. The challenge lies in creating a system that ensures compliance with the new rules while acknowledging past harms and promising opportunities. New York must find a balance between regulation and reparation.

    • The complex issue of cannabis law enforcement against immigrant shop owners in New YorkThe enforcement of cannabis laws against Yemeni immigrant shop owners in New York creates a delicate balance between addressing historical discrimination and upholding the law, leading to a gray area of operation and an illegal market.

      The enforcement of cannabis laws against a largely immigrant and first-generation population of shop owners in New York has been a complex issue. Many shop owners, despite operating in a gray area of the law, believe they are legal due to the prevalence of similar businesses around them. Paula Collins, an attorney representing these shop owners, argues that the laws are confusing and poorly communicated, leading to an illegal market. However, this market undermines the promise of reparations for those who have been historically discriminated against in the cannabis industry. It's a delicate balance between addressing the injustice of unequal enforcement on black and brown New Yorkers and the injustice faced by Yemeni immigrants. Paula Collins, an advocate for the illicit market, insists that discrimination against certain backgrounds should not determine who benefits from the legal market. Ultimately, the slow rollout of the licensed market was not caused by the unlicensed market but by policy and missteps.

    • Challenges in New York's Cannabis MarketIllegal dispensaries persist, licensed businesses face delays and lawsuits, and small businesses and farmers express frustration, raising concerns about market dominance by larger corporations.

      New York's attempt to regulate its cannabis market faced significant challenges, with illegal dispensaries continuing to operate despite crackdowns, and delays and lawsuits hindering the progress of licensed businesses. The situation led to frustration among small business owners and farmers who felt they had been let down by the state. The situation also raised concerns about the potential dominance of larger corporations in the market. Despite these challenges, the diverse group of people involved in the cannabis industry remained committed to their businesses and expressed their determination to navigate the complex regulatory landscape.

    • Frustration and Infighting Delay Cannabis Licensing ProcessEmergency meeting of the cannabis control board met with frustration and infighting, causing delays and raising concerns about the future of the licensing process for medical cannabis companies due to lack of clarity on the emergency situation and agenda items.

      The emergency meeting of the cannabis control board was met with frustration and bureaucratic infighting, causing delays and raising concerns about the future of the licensing process for medical cannabis companies. The board members were unhappy about being called in for an emergency meeting during their vacation time and questioned the urgency of the situation. The lack of clarity on the emergency situation and the agenda items led to a contentious meeting, with several points of order being raised. The meeting ended, but the exhaustion and frustration were palpable, and it seemed that faith in the process was dwindling among the board members, as well as the legal and illegal weed sellers and the governor herself. The ambitious dream of getting New York's cannabis rollout right was starting to look like a stalled and uncertain future.

    • Discovering Hidden Talent on LinkedIn and Supporting Health with SeedLinkedIn is a valuable resource for small businesses to find qualified candidates quickly, while Seed's daily symbiotic promotes overall health benefits.

      LinkedIn is an essential platform for hiring professionals, especially those who aren't actively looking for new opportunities. With over 70% of LinkedIn users not visiting other job sites, it's the go-to place for small businesses to find qualified candidates within 24 hours. Meanwhile, maintaining a healthy gut can lead to whole body benefits, as demonstrated by Seed's daily symbiotic. Tremaine Wright, the New York State Cannabis Control Board Chair, shares her entrepreneurial spirit and determination to bring the cannabis industry to life, despite the challenges. In summary, LinkedIn is a game-changer for hiring, Seed's daily symbiotic supports overall health, and the cannabis industry presents new opportunities for growth.

    • Surprise increase in illegal cannabis salesNew York's legal cannabis market faces unexpected challenges with a rise in illegal sales from new entrants. Regulation and enforcement are crucial to create a mature market and protect consumers.

      The legalization of cannabis in New York has led to a surge in illegal sales from new entrants, primarily LLCs and shell companies. This was unexpected and difficult to predict, making it more important for the state to focus on enforcement and regulation in real time. The ultimate goal is to create an educated consumer base and mature market, similar to the progression from illegal numbers games to regulated lotteries. Despite initial challenges, the process is moving forward, with the vision of a fully legal cannabis market replacing the illegal stores.

    • Navigating regulations in the cannabis industryStarting a business in a heavily regulated industry requires careful planning and adaptability. Stay determined, pragmatic, and never take on unnecessary risks.

      Starting a business in a heavily regulated industry like cannabis requires careful planning and adaptability. Alex Norman and Louis Colon, the founders of Bodega, had to navigate numerous regulations, including installing a security vault and temperature control storage, to get their dispensary approved by the state. Despite the challenges, they remained determined and pragmatic, never taking on a big loan or signing a lease they couldn't back out of. However, even with their careful planning, they faced unexpected setbacks when another dispensary was approved less than 500 feet away, forcing them to start over. The illegal stores in the area added to their frustration, as they believed in playing by the rules and admired the state's promise to shut them down. Ultimately, their conviction to be real and successful in capitalism, despite the obstacles, is a testament to their resilience.

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