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    Why big companies will never get content management right, with UCLA’s Sarah T Roberts

    enJuly 02, 2019

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    • Content moderation: Brand management over free speechCompanies prioritize brand image over free speech in content moderation, a globalized industry with a deep labor structure

      Content moderation, a crucial aspect of online businesses like Google and Facebook, is less about speech control and more about brand management. Professor Sarah T. Roberts, an assistant professor at UCLA and author of "Behind the Screen," explores this idea in her new book. She spent a year researching the topic and interviewed moderators in various countries. Roberts found that content moderation is a globalized industry with a deep labor structure. Companies that sell advertising, like Google and Facebook, prioritize maintaining their brand image over free speech. Meanwhile, Canva, a design tool, offers a solution to ease the anxiety of presentations with its AI-powered features. Users can generate slides and content quickly, saving time and effort.

    • The Need for Commercial Content Moderation on Social MediaThe exponential growth of user-generated content on social media necessitated commercial content moderation for brand protection and advertiser relationships.

      The explosion of user-generated content on social media platforms has led to an unintended consequence: the need for commercial content moderation on a massive scale. Initially, social media firms were not focused on editorial control, as their primary business was advertising and monetizing user data. However, as user-generated content increased exponentially, the need to manage and adjudicate content became essential for brand protection and advertiser relationships. This has resulted in a significant industry, with firms ranging from large-scale players like Google and Facebook to boutique and specialized agencies. The industry's development has been reactive, and the question remains whether the current approach is effective or if new solutions are needed to address the challenges of content moderation.

    • Content moderation practices vary across tech companies and regionsDespite the need for content moderation, the ways it's enforced and working conditions for moderators differ greatly, with some companies using a mix of in-house and outsourced labor, and labor norms and protections varying across regions.

      While all digital platforms require some form of content moderation and have communities with unique rules, the ways in which these rules are enforced and the working conditions for those enforcing them can vary greatly. For instance, larger tech companies may use a combination of in-house and outsourced labor, with some workers being directly employed and others working as contractors or through platforms like Amazon Mechanical Turk. The norms for labor and working conditions also differ significantly across regions, making it an attractive option for companies to outsource to countries with lower labor costs and fewer protections. However, it's important to note that a significant portion of content is not reviewed by humans and the amount of content uploaded far outweighs what can be reviewed.

    • Social media content moderation is becoming more localizedSocial media companies are building localized sites, hiring native speakers, and establishing call centers to respond to local norms and legal mandates, ensuring compliance and protecting brand reputation.

      Content moderation for social media platforms is becoming increasingly localized due to linguistic, cultural, and political complexities. This shift is driven by the need to respond appropriately to local norms and legal mandates. For instance, social media companies like Facebook are building more localized sites and hiring native speakers to work in specific regions. This is evident in job solicitations seeking workers fluent in Gulf Arabic or Thai, among other languages. Moreover, legal mandates such as Germany's NetzDG law require social media platforms with over 2 million users in the country to respond to German anti-hate speech laws, leading companies to establish call centers in the region to ensure compliance. For the platform companies, this issue is fundamentally a brand management problem, as failure to address hate speech and harassment effectively can damage their reputation and lead to significant fines or legal consequences.

    • Social media's evolution from self-expression to commercial controlSocial media companies have transformed from open platforms for self-expression to commercial entities that manage user-generated content to protect business interests and advertiser relationships.

      Social media companies, which were initially marketed as unfettered platforms for self-expression and anonymity, have evolved into commercial entities with a need to control content to protect their business interests and advertisers. The speaker references research showing that users who had content removed felt targeted based on their political affiliations. This history of self-expression and anonymity online dates back to earlier social media platforms like Usenet and BBSs. However, as these companies grew and monetized, they had to balance free expression with the need to manage content to maintain advertiser relationships. This control extends to community guidelines and the ability to remove or rescind content. Understanding this evolution can help inform a different dialogue about the role and responsibility of social media platforms in managing user-generated content.

    • Social Media as Public Squares vs. Advertising BusinessesSocial media companies, despite their cultural significance, primarily operate as advertising businesses. To strike a balance between free speech and responsible content moderation, a multifaceted approach including regulation, self-regulation, and alternative platforms may be necessary.

      The notion of viewing social media platforms like Google, Facebook, and Twitter as public squares requiring absolute free speech may not be realistic. These companies, despite their massive influence and cultural significance, operate primarily as advertising businesses. While the argument for treating them as public squares is valid, it's crucial to acknowledge their true nature and the responsibilities that come with it. The lack of clarity and existential crisis around their roles can lead to regulatory intervention. Instead, these companies should provide clear guidelines and transparency about their content moderation decisions to avoid regulatory oversight and potential "shadow governments" within their organizations. A multifaceted approach, including regulation, self-regulation, and alternative platforms, may be necessary to strike a balance between free speech and responsible content moderation.

    • Tech Companies Creating Independent Bodies for GovernanceTech giants like Google and Facebook establish independent bodies for governance in response to regulation and public pressure, raising questions about their structure, powers, and representation.

      Tech companies like Google, Facebook, and others are moving towards creating independent bodies to govern their operations, similar to a government, in response to regulation and public pressure. These bodies would address representation and other issues, but questions remain about their structure, powers, and representation. As a researcher, Sarah T. Roberts sees this as an important development in the digital age where we spend a significant portion of our lives in these online spaces. Canva, a design tool, can help users create presentations quickly and efficiently, while Art Beats and Lyrics, a documentary, showcases the growth of a cultural phenomenon and the roles of its founders.

    • Factors contributing to the commercial internet's riseThe 90s saw the web's creation, graphical browsers, high-speed internet, and the CDA, leading to the commercial internet's rise. However, this narrative overlooks the loss of public media and the need for digital literacy skills to navigate information effectively.

      The convergence of various factors in the mid-1990s, including the creation of the World Wide Web, graphical web browsers, high-speed internet, and the Communications Decency Act, played a significant role in the commercial internet's rise. However, it's important to remember that the "winner takes all" narrative isn't always accurate, and the decline of truly public media and the foreclosure of other participatory spaces have consequences for information access and literacy. If I were to design a moderation system from scratch today, my first move would be to prioritize fostering a diverse range of information sources and promoting digital literacy skills to help users navigate and evaluate information effectively. This approach would support a more informed and equitable digital landscape.

    • The undervaluation of human content moderatorsDespite the increasing automation of decision-making processes, human moderators remain essential for nuanced and thoughtful content moderation. Their role as curators and tastemakers should be celebrated, not replaced by algorithms.

      The invisibility and undervaluation of human content moderators in the tech industry has led to numerous issues, including confusion, uneven application of rules, and a lack of transparency. This business decision was driven by a cultural and political orientation in Silicon Valley to prioritize computational mechanisms over human cognition, fueled by the belief that algorithms are less biased and can scale better. However, algorithms lack the ability to form unions, advocate for better working conditions, or engage in transparency. The decision-making processes used by human moderators are decision tree-based and have been increasingly automated, but it's crucial to be critical of the notion that computational systems can fully replace human moderators. A more positive approach could be to highlight and celebrate the role of human moderators as curators and tastemakers, providing a more nuanced and thoughtful approach to content moderation.

    • Humans and Machines Collaborate in Content ModerationHuman oversight remains essential for content moderation, with machines assisting in decision-making. Regulations are pushing for more accountability and transparency, leading to a hybrid approach.

      While there's ongoing efforts to automate content moderation using machine learning and AI, humans will continue to play a crucial role in the process due to the need for human intelligence to train these systems and vet decisions. The trend towards more serious regulation of content moderation is coming from outside the US, particularly in the EU, as other countries are sensitive to the exportation of American political values through social media. Despite the increased attention and hiring in this area, a hybrid approach of human and machine moderation is expected to persist.

    • Historical parallels in tech industry dominance and sovereignty concernsThe dominance of American tech companies in content moderation and platform rules raises geopolitical concerns, echoing historical precedents like IBM's computing industry monopoly, and necessitates considering the potential consequences for international relations during tech regulation debates.

      The dominance of American tech companies in the digital realm, particularly in content moderation and platform rules, raises concerns for other countries who see it as a threat to their sovereignty. This issue echoes historical precedents, such as the mid-20th century's IBM computing industry monopoly, which prompted other nations to build their own computing infrastructures. Sarah T. Roberts, UCLA professor and author of "Behind the Screen: Content Moderation in the Shadows of Social Media," discussed these parallels during her interview on The Vergecast. As the debate around tech regulation continues, it's essential to consider the geopolitical implications and potential consequences for international relations.

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      The documentary showcases Jabbar, W, and other artists preparing for AB&L's 20th Anniversary Tour, drawing large crowds at each performance. A key aspect of the experience is the integration of streamed art beats in their music, which can be enjoyed on Hulu. It's important to remember to drink responsibly while enjoying the music. Jack Daniels, a whiskey with 35% alcohol by volume, is a registered trademark of the Jack Daniels Distillery in Lynchburg, Tennessee. The documentary is set to release in 2024, and Jack Daniels reserves all rights to its trademarks. This fusion of music, art, and a well-known beverage brand creates an immersive and engaging experience for fans.

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