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    Why is it so hard for adults to make friends? With Maris Franco, PhD

    enJanuary 26, 2022

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    • The challenges of making and maintaining friendships as adultsAs adults, we may have fewer friends but prioritize deeper connections, necessitating intentional efforts to build and maintain friendships.

      Making and maintaining friendships becomes more challenging for adults due to the lack of continuous unplanned interaction and shared vulnerability in our daily lives. Sociologists argue that these factors are essential for organic friendship development. While we may have the most friends in our young to mid-twenties, the focus shifts to quality over quantity as we age, leading to a natural shrinking of our circles. However, it's essential to intentionally seek out environments and opportunities for connection as adults. According to research, people have fewer friends on average than they used to, but it's unclear if this is due to the effort required or a deliberate focus on deeper relationships. Our guest, Dr. Marissa Franco, a psychologist and friendship expert, shares more insights on this topic in her upcoming book, "Platonic."

    • The Importance of Friendships for Our HealthMaking and maintaining friendships is crucial for our health as social connection is more important than diet and exercise. Initiate interactions to make new friends and create continuous unplanned interactions to deepen existing ones.

      The decline in friendship networks is a public health crisis, as research shows that social connection is more important for our health and well-being than even our diet and exercise. With people being 4 to 5 times more likely to have no friends compared to decades ago, and the negative health consequences of loneliness being comparable to smoking 15 cigarettes a day, it's crucial to make and maintain friendships. For those looking to make new friends, the key is to initiate and overcome self-defeating thoughts, as research shows that people tend to underestimate how much others like them. By assuming people do like us and taking the risk to initiate, we can reap the benefits of new connections. For those concerned with maintaining and deepening friendships, it's important to create continuous unplanned interactions, which can be as simple as reaching out to a friend to catch up or making plans for regular activities. By taking action and maintaining optimism, we can enrich our lives and improve our overall health.

    • Maintaining Friendships Takes EffortSchedule regular meetings, incorporate friends into personal goals, prioritize reciprocity, identity affirmation, perspective-taking, and support for growth to strengthen and deepen friendships.

      Maintaining friendships requires effort and intentionality. To keep old friendships alive, schedule regular meetings and incorporate friends into personal goals. Reciprocity and identity affirmation are important indicators of a good friendship, as are the ability to take perspective and support each other's growth. By prioritizing these elements, you can strengthen and deepen your connections with friends. Additionally, remember that friends want to hear from you and are likely wondering about you too, so don't hesitate to reach out. By adopting a mindset of assumption of positive intent, you can rekindle old friendships and build new ones.

    • Maintaining an optimistic perspective in friendshipsStay positive, communicate openly, and address potential issues to strengthen friendships, even if one party is less responsive or vulnerable.

      When dealing with the ambiguity of friendships and the phenomenon of being ghosted, it's essential to maintain an optimistic perspective and evaluate the larger context of the friendship. Not responding to a text message doesn't necessarily mean the end of a friendship. Instead, it could be a sign of busyness or lack of investment. Open communication and addressing potential issues can lead to deeper connections and increased intimacy. Men tend to be less vulnerable in their friendships compared to women, but this doesn't make one approach superior to the other. Ultimately, taking the risk to engage in open dialogue and invite conversation can help clarify any misunderstandings and strengthen friendships.

    • Vulnerability strengthens relationships despite societal normsBeing vulnerable can deepen connections, but societal norms can hinder men from engaging in vulnerable behaviors, leading to loneliness. Platonic friendships between men and women offer opportunities for vulnerability and deeper connections.

      Vulnerability plays a crucial role in forming and deepening connections between people, including friendships. Despite the fear of potential liabilities, being vulnerable can actually strengthen relationships. However, societal norms and stereotypes, such as homohysteria, can hinder men from engaging in vulnerable behaviors, leading to loneliness. Platonic friendships between men and women can provide men with unique opportunities for vulnerability and deeper connections. The pandemic has highlighted the importance of actively initiating and maintaining friendships, and it remains to be seen how long-term effects will unfold.

    • Historically, loneliness made us dislike others, but it's not an accurate reflectionRecognize loneliness' impact on relationships, express appreciation, and share vulnerabilities to build deeper connections

      Loneliness can significantly impact how we perceive and value relationships, making it harder for us to connect with others. Historically, loneliness was a sign of danger, which can lead lonely individuals to dislike those they interact with and assume rejection. However, it's essential to recognize that these negative feelings are a result of loneliness and not an accurate reflection of the situation. Moreover, remote and hybrid work have made it more challenging to make work friends. To combat this, setting up continuous unplanned interactions and being more vulnerable are recommended strategies. The theory of inferred attraction suggests that people tend to like those who like them, so expressing appreciation and initiating connections can help strengthen relationships. Additionally, sharing vulnerabilities can lead to deeper connections, despite the fear of potential consequences. Remember, the more we interact with people, the closer we tend to feel, but at work, we often only interact on a professional level. By being more open and vulnerable, we can create meaningful connections that go beyond the workplace.

    • Fostering Meaningful ConnectionsOpen-mindedness, vulnerability, and substance foster connections that combat prejudice and promote understanding, enriching our lives.

      Building meaningful connections at work and in life, whether across racial lines or with those holding different political beliefs, is essential for personal growth, engagement, productivity, and overall well-being. Quality interactions that foster shared vulnerability and substance are crucial for combating prejudice and maintaining healthy relationships. Maintaining an open-minded attitude and avoiding stereotypes or over-identification are key when connecting with individuals from diverse backgrounds. When considering friendships with those holding differing political beliefs, it's important to weigh the pros and cons and determine if the benefits outweigh the potential challenges. Ultimately, fostering connections that enrich our lives and promote understanding is a worthwhile endeavor.

    • Building friendships requires intentionality, vulnerability, and recognizing biasesRecognize needs and values, overcome biases, apply romantic relationship skills, and assume positive intentions for strong friendships.

      Building and maintaining friendships, especially across differences, requires effort, vulnerability, and the transfer of skills from other relationships. Dr. Marissa Franco emphasized the importance of self-reflection to understand our needs and values, as well as recognizing the need for space and reengagement in relationships. She also highlighted the importance of recognizing and overcoming biases that can hinder connection. Additionally, she shared that skills that make romantic relationships successful, such as affirmation, conflict resolution, and vulnerability, can also be applied to friendships. Furthermore, she discussed the "beautiful mess effect," where people assume others judge them more than they do during vulnerable moments, and encouraged maintaining optimism and assuming positive intentions in friendships. Overall, Dr. Franco provided valuable insights on the importance of intentionality, vulnerability, and optimism in building and maintaining friendships.

    • The Importance of Staying Informed and Engaged with PsychologyListening to Speaking of Psychology can lead to personal growth and better relationships by increasing knowledge and understanding of psychology.

      Learning from this episode of Speaking of Psychology is the importance of staying informed and engaged with psychology. You can access previous episodes on the American Psychological Association's website or your favorite podcast platform. If you enjoy the podcast, consider leaving a review on Apple. And if you have ideas for future episodes, feel free to email us. Remember, knowledge and understanding of psychology can lead to personal growth and better relationships. So, keep listening and keep learning. Speaking of Psychology is produced by Lee Winerman and edited by Chris Kundian. Thank you for tuning in. For the American Psychological Association, I'm Kim Nils.

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    Children lose their innocence when they see how people disappoint us

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    You see this theme in literature all the time. To Kill a Mockingbird is a classic example. Scout, the young girl in the story comes face to face with the racism she sees in the adults her small town in the South.

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    Help from our grandson
    • Trip to visit our daughter in SC, when back home we had a 7” snowfall
    • Our son Michael texted, “have you made arrangements for the snow?”
    • He sent George, our 18-year-old grandson, over the next day to shovel. I hadn’t shown him how to use our snowblower.
    • I told George just to clear a path to the garage for our car, and I would finish the rest with our snowblower when I got home.
    • George texted me when he was finished and said, “It was some of the heaviest snow I’ve ever shoveled, but I got it done.”
    • We returned home a few days later and I stopped over to pay him.
    Grandson George observes how people disappoint us

    At the end of a conversation about some small talk regarding other things, George brought up his shoveling experience again and said,

    I was out there a long time shoveling, and after awhile, I wondered why none of your neighbors stopped over to ask if they could help. I mean, when our neighbor Mrs. Fibeena was alive, Grant and I would always shovel her driveway. And our neighbor Don across the street, we shoveled the driveway for him, and now for his wife since he died last year. But none of your neighbors offered to help shovel.

    • At least 24 hours had passed since the snowfall ended, and all the other driveways in the neighborhood were snow-free. But not ours.
    • The tone of George’s voice was genuine surprise that no neighbors offered to help out with a need another neighbor had. It was so contrary to his experience, where he lived 3 miles away that he and his brother (and sister) were used to. “We help our neighbors” is a value his parents are raising him with.
    • He wasn’t complaining or whining at all. His wistful comments came across to me as a sociological observation and reflection upon human nature, with a twinge of sadness to it.
    When people disappoint us it can come as a surprise
    • My heart ached for George, that he saw this side of human nature about our neighbors that was so contrary to his own experience. I even briefly thought "maybe we better move.”
    • I know George sees this side of humanity on a daily basis with his peers. He’s no stranger to seeing the less flattering side of the human condition.
    • But his surprise with our neighbors’ lack of help showed that at 18 years of age he’s lost another measure of childhood innocence. That people you would have thought would have been there for you, other adults, were not.
    • I also sensed he was feeling bad for me, that these were the kind of neighbors we have. My heart ached for his kind and tender heart.
    • George knew what our former neighborhood was like; he saw it first hand, with people like Kevin who lived across the street.
    While some people disappoint us now, others in the past did the opposite
    • In our former neighborhood, Kevin and I cleared driveways of snow for 3 neighbors. They were all older than us. Kevin did more than me.
    • When my mother died in March years ago, we had a late winter snowfall of 3-4 inches the day of her funeral. I didn’t have time to snow blow the driveway before the service, as we had to leave in a hurry. But when we got home later that day, Kevin or one of the other neighbors had cleared our driveway of snow.
    • No one asked them to. They just did it. Because our snow-covered driveway told people something was wrong, so they stepped in to help.
    Sometimes people disappoint us when our expectations are unrealistic
    • Getting back to George’s observation, I can imagine all kinds of legitimate reasons why people didn’t help.
    • If any of them would listen to this podcast, I’m sure they’d have a reasonable explanation for not helping out.
    • Some of them might even be irritated at me for suggesting someone should have helped. After all it’s not my neighbor’s responsibility to keep my driveway clear of snow.
    • The fact I helped clear their drive a few times, doesn’t mean they owe me a return favor. I certainly get that.
    • I don’t want to be critical, I just want to make an observation. And that is in this one instance with George, our current neighborhood personified what the Apostle Paul writes in Romans 12: 2, “Do not be conformed to the pattern of this world.” The pattern of this world, at least in our neighborhood, is NOT to help others in a jam. Keep to yourself. Take care of #1. Don’t extend yourself. “That’s the behavior and custom of this world.”
    • We have nice people in our neighborhood. People are cordial and respectful of one another, and I suspect there are examples of caring and helping others that I’m not aware of.
    It’s one thing for people to disappoint us. It’s another when they disappoint those we love
    • Nevertheless, my heart still aches a bit for George. And it may very well be my heart aches more for myself than him.
    • George is a very caring person, you might remember me talking about him in an earlier episode, how even as a first or second grader, he would hold open the door to his school to let teachers and other adults enter before him.
    • I notice in caring people, and myself, that every now and then. Not often, but every now and then, you wonder, “When is it going to be my turn? When are people going to care for me, the way I care for them? I wonder if that was what George was feeling when he shoveled snow off our driveway.
    • I know this thought crosses my mind every now and then, and it can lead to a sense of sadness really quickly.
    How are we to respond to this inconvenient relational reality I described?

    Ask God for the wisdom and power to:

    1. Resist the temptation to assign bad motives to people who do not care for us the in the way we want to be cared for. Everyone has stuff going on in their lives we are unaware of. Cut people some slack. Extend grace.
    2. Take to heart Philippians 2:4, and obey the command, “Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourself.”
    3. As Mr. Rogers, Fred Rogers of Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood tells us, “look for the helpers.” As adults, look for the helpers and try to be like them. Look for the role models we can emulate.
    4. Become a role model for others. The best version of yourself will have a strong component of caring for others.
    5. Be courageous and ask for help when you need it.
    6. Be okay with the feelings of sadness if they come. Don’t minimize or flee from it. Just sit in for awhile, and before you know it, they will pass. Especially as you move forward with being a caring person yourself.
    If you forget everything else, here’s the one thing I hope you remember from today’s episode

    When people you thought would be there for you, fail to show up, respond with grace. Ask God to help you to be there for others, even if they don’t show up for you. Because after all, You Were Made for This.

    Closing

    In closing, I hope your thinking was stimulated by today’s show, enough to respond in healthy ways when people disappoint us. For when you do, it will help you experience the joy of relationships God intends for you.

    Well, that’s it for today. Please consider telling others about this podcast if you think it would be interesting and helpful to them. And don’t forget to spread a little relational sunshine around the people you meet this week. Spark some joy for them. And I’ll see you again next time.

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    4 Things Black Women 60 and Over Ought to STOP Doing

    4 Things Black Women 60 and Over Ought to STOP Doing

    Sisters Gathering to Heal, the Podcast: Courageous Conversations about Self-Love & Healing for Black Women. I’m your host, DeBora M. Ricks, Mother, Self-Love Doula, Editor, Book Midwife, Author, Attorney & Founder of Sisters Gathering to Heal, the Movement. Reach me at DeBoraMRicks@gmail.com

    In episode 18 I talk about 4 things black women 60+ ought to stop doing: 1. taking care of grown people 2. waiting 3. living in the past, and 4. betraying, abandoning, and neglecting themselves. And of course, I suggest ways to stop doing these things. 

     

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