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    About Face

    About Face explores a wide range of themes around identity and self including addiction, sex and relationships, trauma, LGBTQ issues, and family of origin stories. Through reflection, interview, and narrative storytelling this podcast deconstructs personal, family, and cultural narratives to better understand our ourselves and access authenticity. Hosted by Kate Marlene, writer and therapist.
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    E7: Fear Narratives: Finding Self and Truth

    E7: Fear Narratives: Finding Self and Truth
    Fear is so basic, primal, but also gets at the role of narrative in our lives is fear. Fear is an instinct of course, it drives us to make decisions, to do or not do things. It can get in the way of moving forward, but of course it also has this evolutionary advantage of keeping us safe from harm. Fear narratives can be based on societal messaging, family of origin stories, experiences, and even cultural mythologies, but it is important to understand where our fears are coming from and whether they are authentic and real or if they are just limiting beliefs.
     
    In this episode I share a story about how a family origin story resurfaced while I was on a road trip in Portugal last week and how the fear narrative left me with a stolen wallet. I will also share how learning to inventory fear helped me make one of the most important decisions of my life-- to leave my marriage. 
     
    If you are struggling with a life transition, consider working with me directly. I am a certified narrative therapist and work with individuals, couples and groups. You can book individual sessions through my website at www.restoryatherapy.com

    Facebook: Restorya Therapy

    Instagram: @restorya

    Our theme music is the song Jeanne by Kenichi and the Sun from the upcoming album White Fire to be released in September 2020. 

    About Face
    en-usAugust 28, 2020

    E6: Reimagining Self and the Journey in Tarot w/ Hannah Joy Graves

    E6: Reimagining Self and the Journey in Tarot w/ Hannah Joy Graves

    This podcast is broadly looking at the way that stories and reimagined narratives can help us shut down negative thinking patterns, deconstruct damaging systemic narratives, and take the power back in reimagining our own lives. My guest today is Hannah Joy Graves a.k.a. Cult Mother a tarot card reader in Berlin who you also heard on an earlier episode of About Face. While the reading of tarot is by no means scientific or having proven healing powers in a medical way, I do think that it has the power to do what narrative therapy also does, which is look for the answers that lie within us. Like narrative therapy, tarot opens up new possibilities for understanding and gives the individual the power to look at themselves and their lives in a new way.

    This was something I realized after my own readings with Hannah. It wasn’t about fortune telling, it was about seeing the way that my life circumstances could be approached differently. I love seeing the way life stories drive individual empowerment and the narrative healing happening in so many different practices.

    Hannah Joy Graves- Cult Mother Tarot
    Insta: @CultMotherTarot

    Mental Health Benefits of Reading Tarot by Elly Belle

    Music by Kenichi and the Sun

    About Face
    en-usAugust 22, 2020

    E5- Poetry and Embodied Activism (Wicked Slam Live in Berlin)

    E5- Poetry and Embodied Activism (Wicked Slam Live in Berlin)

    I started my work in activism at more of the macro level. I went to law school and studied international human rights at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. this where George Floyd was murdered and sort of the starting point of the protests against police brutality in the U.S. When I was there I was working for the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of prison inmates. One of my jobs was to read the letters from the inmates, to decide if they had a claim. Now I can tell you what I was doing was listening, to stories, to emotions, to pain and loss. I was all in.
     
    The problem was that I was acting like a lawyer, And a lawyer’s job, is not about stories, or empathy, or emotions or heart. A lawyers job is to decide whether these facts square with the law. I would normally take these letters and put them in a pile that said, “NO CASE.” What that meant was that whatever personal experiences and injustices were at the heart of these inmate letters, they were not meaningful enough to make a mark on the law. This was sort of the beginning of my questioning the role of the law, my ability to work within the confines of the legal system, that I could see was deeply flawed and had so many blind spots.
     
    The personal is political and making sense of our past, how these personal stories and narratives are impacted and influenced by larger institutions of power do matter.
     
    So, I was very interested in this role of narrative and began work in literary theory as a Ph.D. student at NYU. I was interested in the role of narrative in the law, power structures. This sort of paved the way for me over the years, to have this base understanding of stories, and narrative, as a source of power and justice, but also as the real source of activism, healing and recovery.
     
    As a writer, I’ve always believed in translating my inner experience to the outer world, and in some ways that act in itself felt political. I am now a trained narrative therapist which means that I;m really looking at how systemic issues influence the individual, which brings me to tonights topic.. emotions. Emotions drive us, emotions are the root of passion and activism, and if you think about it they really begin in our bodies. I am doing somatic work in embodied activism which is really about learning how to see the body as the center point for any work at the individual and institutional level. How do we learn to become embodied, to see our bodies as a source of power and also often the place of oppression, because of race, gender, sexual orientation. Where does this all begin, in the body. But by becoming aware of our bodies. Becoming mindful of the body, we can begin to take back power.
     
    So, back to emotions. If you have never done this before. I want you to close your eyes and think about how emotions manifest in your body. When you’re scared, is your chest tight, does anger start in your gut, does excitement cause your fingers to shake. We experience emotions in our bodies and this is one way to reconnect to get really in touch with where you are in your body emotionally, so that you can channel it. Many times people don’t stop to feel their emotions, but they actually are a physical experience, and instead of thinking of emotions as something to get out, like a catharsis, it can be more helpful to think of them as a kind of territory in your body, a place where you can live them experience them, and use them as a way to fuel your power.
     
    I could talk more about this, but I wanted to just give that quick intro into the potential of narrative and storytelling gin transformational healing but also make this connection to somatic healing and embodied activism. You can learn more about my community healing and work at restoryatherapy.com and I will also read this poem, which I think for me is a personal reflection on the relationship between this inner and outer world…
     
    Formless
     
    From the rooftops, that carve a pathway
    Towards the steeple, the clouds thin and even
    Where birds perch, on the stone meridian
    The leaves that grow tired and fold.
    Beneath this lapping sky, that once belonged to us.
     
    In the milky sunset haze, the shadows crawl north.
    And we wait, now, for the face of night.
    Her glow, the mysteries, that lie beneath.
    The stories that unfurl between promises
    Between the sheets, the windows and walls
    There was us. And then, the world.
     
    Dampened lust, our bodies, we are lost in
    Formlessness, beyond the rings of ecstasy
    We know these lines, the edges of being,
    Where we wait to be discovered,
    Uncovered, and lifted, elevated beyond
    White crests, the carnal rain.
     
    The walls are dirty with time.
    And tell us more than we want to remember.
    So we silence them, with only our eyes.
    There was nothing left to bare.
    Secret eddies of lost thrown stones.
    There was nothing left for us to bare.
     
    And this time, we will need a map,
    To guide us from these rooms, to tell us
    Where to go, how to be, the way we were.
    Out there in here or in here, out there.
    The desert has never touched the ocean.
    The sun can only long to kiss moon.
     
    From pink to blue to summer night.
    It wasn’t long until the hum of the street,
    The dog barking, pulling at the leash,
    Life is awakened, in the dark.
    The wind beckons, not forgotten
    From the windows, we hear her calls,
    It’s a beat, a force we won’t forsake.
     
     
    Kate Marlena Leone
    July 13, 2020
     

    About Face
    en-usAugust 07, 2020

    E4- Challenging Gender Binaries and Biology Narratives w/ Aisling Ní Chába

    E4- Challenging Gender Binaries and Biology Narratives w/ Aisling Ní Chába

    Kate interviews Aisling Ní Chába about her internal experience with gender identity from childhood, growing up in an abusive family and repressive Catholic community in Glasgow. She talks about the challenges she faced in finding institutional support and how transitioning forced her to confront gender binary narratives on the personal level as well as in academia as an archaeologist. I did this interview about a week before she entered the hospital for vaginoplasty or gender confirmation surgery. We are talking about gender, but also the underlying scientific narratives that can impact self-identity especially related to bio-constructs.

    About Face
    en-usJuly 28, 2020

    E3- You Are Not Your Problems

    E3- You Are Not Your Problems

    I'm a divorced, single mom, an alcoholic, I suffer from depression and anxiety, among some other things, and yes, all of this sounds really shitty, but it's not really the story of my life. The way we talk about ourselves and our experiences matters. This episode is about how we can learn to separate ourselves and our identity from our problems, how avoiding certain labels can inhibit our ability to get help, and the role of narrative therapy in finding solutions. 

    E2- Alcoholism & Recovery: A Personal Narrative Journey

    E2- Alcoholism & Recovery: A Personal Narrative Journey

    Stories tell us about where we come from, who we are. They give us meaning and purpose. And without some understanding of how they influence us, a story can keep us in bad habits. I want to use my own life as an example of how my own stories kept me from healing, and how learning new narratives gave me room to heal.

    I started drinking alcoholically when I was about 16, though I wouldn’t have admitted it. I did know something was “wrong” especially after I wound up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning on my 16th birthday, however, no amount of therapists, family interventionists, even doctors could have persuaded me that I had a problem with alcohol, or that I was an alcoholic. But why? In some ways, it was obvious even then.

    One of the most powerful transformations I have made in my life was the recovery from alcoholism. This began with the pain of admitting something was wrong and connecting with my own narratives around alcoholism, failure, perfectionism, self-worth, and love. For me, getting sober meant reframing the entire story I had told about myself and my place in the world. ⠀


    In this week's podcast I am going to talk about the role of narrative in my own life, not directly from the perspective of narrative therapy, but the power of storytelling, listening to others, community sharing, and how creating meaning gave me the power to break through limitations to connect with a higher and more empowered self. ⠀

    E1: Welcome to Restorya! An Introduction

    E1: Welcome to Restorya! An Introduction

    In our first episode of Restorya, Kate talks about the evolution of About Face and why she’s changed the show and the content to introduce her work in narrative therapy. She shares the origin story of About Face, her own experience with getting sober and recovery through narrative and storytelling and how creating hope around narrative can be beneficial in moving beyond our pain and trauma. Kate delves into what narrative therapy is, her own experience with studying narrative for 20 years and how narrative therapy methods can help you to come to a deeper understanding of yourself, your identity, and create responses to your life in an authentic and empowered way.

    About Face
    en-usJuly 03, 2020

    Episode 20: Missa Blue- Burlesque Dancer, Sword Swallower- Facing Your Fears

    Episode 20: Missa Blue- Burlesque Dancer, Sword Swallower- Facing Your Fears

    I met MISSA BLUE after one of her hypnotic burlesque shows, a political, challenging and riveting performance history of the Black Panthers. Missa Blue is a well known variety performer who has gained international recognition through her highly skilled sword swallowing shows and for being one of the very few woman in the world who are still actively practicing this ancient art form. In 2016 she survived a life threatening accident on stage. This has pushed her to become an activist for Performers of Colour in international show business. She has since been called a role model for her fight against racism and for more visibility of black female performers in the industry.

    In this episode, I talked to Missa about growing up as a young black girl by white German parents, losing her mother at a young age, battling her father's alcoholism, her struggles with anorexia, and how performance art has brought her healing and restored her power and identity.

    Missa talks about the challenges faced by artists of color and how she is building an international coalition to support persons of color in the arts: “It’s really important that people see that a black woman can do this, and that there are other people of color who do incredible things.”

    Missablue.net

    Instagram: @missablue

    Excerpts from Missa's Ted Talk were also included in this episode. The full talk can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMxh-oaAOM

    About Face
    en-usJune 10, 2020

    Guest Episode- Leaving the Amish Community- Filter Stories

    Guest Episode- Leaving the Amish Community- Filter Stories

    Today we are sharing a guest episode from Filter Stories by James Harper about Raymond, a former member of an Amish community who left his home and his country. Raymond's family want him to spend his life using a horse instead of a car, to live off the grid and have little contact with the outside world.

    But young Raymond is curious and explores the outside world. His father reacts by moving the family into an even more isolated community.

    Fast-forward 20 years and Raymond is pulling espressos in Melbourne.

    How did Raymond escape? And how did he end up as a barista in Melbourne?

    Trigger warning: this episode contains references to sexual abuse.

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    Episode transcript: https://medium.com/@FilterStories

    Sound mixing: Dom Edgley / https://domedgleysound.com/

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    Episode 19: Surviving the Unimaginable w/ Christine McAlister

    Episode 19: Surviving the Unimaginable w/ Christine McAlister

    Christine McAlister has endured one of the most horrible and traumatic experiences that I can imagine, and yet, her retelling of the experience and how it changed her is admirable and profound. This is courage, strength, and power in the face of adversity and it’s what I love to learn about from people who have really been through some of life’s toughest lessons. 

    What happens when the worst thing that you think could ever happen to you, actually happens? How do you make sense of life when you are faced with the greatest loss?

    You can find Christine's work at www.lifewithpassion.com

    About Face is a Member of Bear Radio- the premier English speaking podcast network of Berln. Music for this episode was provided by The Space Where She Was from the Album, How to Play Dead.

    Episode 17: Accepting Life and Self in Chronic Illness w/ Lisa Spears

    Episode 17: Accepting Life and Self in Chronic Illness w/ Lisa Spears

    Lisa was an ambitious 20-something working for the United Nations when a sudden and chronic illness became debilitating, leaving her unable to work. This the story of facing her illness, a shocking diagnosis, and her ability to let go of expectations of life and self. It's a story about losing loved ones, forgiveness, and self-compassion. It's about coming to terms with death and how she redefined a meaningful life. 

    About Face is a member of Bear Radio

    Music provided by Miss Kenichi. 

    Episode 17: The Truth Changes Everything w/ Tim Maas

    Episode 17: The Truth Changes Everything w/ Tim Maas

    Our guest Tim, shares semi-anonymously about his experiences with an unexpected pregnancy, as a new father, and a truth about his life that changed everything. It's a story that reminds us how to move forward through life's challenges, and how to face the most impossible decisions without regret. 

    No one’s life turns out perfect. Nothing works out exactly the way that we’ve planned or expected, but the question is what we do with our mistakes, or those moments that force us into difficult decisions, or different paths.  There are so many experiences in life that can injure us, leave us weaker, scared or less. Like Tim said, everyone reacts differently. Some people suffer a tragedy or loss and never really recover. Others are still able to see beauty and possibility and grateful for what they’ve had.

    This is an episode is about life turns and those unforeseen, unexpected challenges. Betrayals and loss. The real-life concoction of beauty and pain, the way that many of our experiences of love, can also have a shadow.

     

    About Face is a member of Bear Radio, the premier English speaking podcast network of Berlin. 

    In this episode you the songs, "Your Shattered Outline" and "The Memory Changes Every Time I Remember," by The Space Where She Was.

    Also, "Different Angles" by the artist, Ketsa with rights from the Free Music Archive. 

     

    Episode 16: Reclaiming the Voice After Emotional Abuse w/ Reema Zaman

    Episode 16: Reclaiming the Voice After Emotional Abuse w/ Reema Zaman

    The relationships we inhabit can shape and define us, and how we see ourselves. Who we choose to love and let love us matters, because in the wrong hands, we may suffer from neglect, abuse, oppression, and even, the total loss of self. One of the most difficult decisions is to know when someone we love is no longer serving us, or worse, actually causing us harm. What does it take to break away, and how do we know when to do it?

    This is a story about love, but also co-dependency and the very complicated nature of emotional abuse. But more, it’s a story about how one woman used her own oppression to find her voice.

    My guest today is Reema Zaman. Reema is an award-winning writer, visual artist, actress and speaker, and the author of the memoir I Am Yours. She is from Bangladesh and immigrated to New York When she was 18. When she was 25, she fell in love and married into a relationship that shifted the direction of her life. She writes and talks about what it is like to fall into emotional abuse as well as how to find your voice when you come out of the darkness.

    About Face is a member of Bear Radio, the premier English-speaking podcast network of Berlin.

    Music for this episode was provided by Miss Kenichi

    The 2018 Oregon Literary Arts’ Writer of Color Fellow, Reema Zaman is an award-winning writer, actress, speaker, and author of the critically acclaimed memoir I AM YOURSI Am Yours debuted on the Powell's Bestseller list, alongside Michelle Obama's memoir Becoming. Born in Bangladesh and raised in Thailand, Reema’s work has appeared in The New York Times, Ms. Magazine, Vogue, The Guardian, Salon, Guernica, Shape, and elsewhere. Reema has the honor of partnering with the International Rescue Committee and Girls Inc. to serve key causes and empower the next generation of leaders. As the only Reema Zaman in the world, she is easy to find on social media. You can follow her on Instagram and Twitter and learn more at reemazaman.com.

     

    Episode 15: Lessons of Oppression and Injustice w/ Naniso Tswai

    Episode 15: Lessons of Oppression and Injustice w/ Naniso Tswai

    Naniso shares his experience growing up in the generation following Apartheid and describes the difference between institutionalized and systemic racism versus other forms of covert oppression. We talk about a particular instance where he was physically assaulted and detained at an airport and how the attack figures into his consciousness, as a thought leader and in how he interacts with the world.

    The way that we see ourselves in the world begins with our family, where are we in the pecking order. As we grow up, we learn more about who we are and where we come from. Even as children, we internalize our individuality through the subtext and organization of our communities and in the context of other social constructions like gender, ethnicity, and nationality. Consciously and unconsciously, how we see ourselves is shaped by how we fit into the world. But, what happens when your identity, the way you see yourself is shaken beyond your control, how do you reckon with this realization- maybe you aren’t who you thought you were? Or maybe the way the world sees you is not the way you’ve always seen yourself.

    Naniso was born a few hundred kilometers north of Johannesburg, South Africa in the homelands or rural villages established during Apartheid. We talked about his early life and what it was like growing up in the generations during and after Apartheid and the difference between systemic and institutionalized oppression versus covert racism.

    About Face is a member of Bear Radio, the premier English speaking podcast network of Berlin. 

    Music for this episode was provided by Miss Kenichi

    And the song "What She Thought of Herself," by The Space Where She Was.

     

    Episode 14 - Why Fortune and Fame Are Never Enough /w Tania Lacy

    Episode 14 - Why Fortune and Fame Are Never Enough /w Tania Lacy

    Tania Lacy was a famous Australian television personality during the 80s and early 90s before she got fired for hijacking the station in protest. Losing her job led to a loss of identity and a reckoning with her own sense of self. This is a story about her height as a celebrity and the fall into obscurity and heroin addiction. This is a story about Tania's ballet accident that ruined her dance career, her transition into  choreography and Kylie Minogue's "Locomotion" video and her rise as a television star and woman in comedy. We talk about why fortune and fame are never enough, how to forgive ourselves, and why strength and power must come from within. 

    About Face is a member of Bear Radio, the premier English speaking podcast network of Berlin.

    Music for this episode was provided by Miss Kenichi.

    Website: misskenichi.com

    Album purchase: https://misskenichi.bandcamp.com/album/fox

     

    Episode 13 - Finding Light in the Dark w/ Justin Evans

    Episode 13 - Finding Light in the Dark w/ Justin Evans

    Why are some of us capable of changing our lives and finding the right path while others get lost along the way? What influence does mental illness play in our ability to recover? How do we navigate our way out of broken homes, addiction, and family mental illness?

    This episode features Justin Evans from The Peripheral and The Generation Why, one of the top-ranking true crime podcasts. We talked about his family history of mental illness, how to mourn loved one who has already been lost to a disease, and how he paved his own way.  

    About Face is a member of Bear Radio, the premier English speaking podcast network of Berlin.

    Music for this episode was provided by Miss Kenichi.

    Website: misskenichi.com

    Album purchase: https://misskenichi.bandcamp.com/album/fox

     

     

    Episode 12- Shedding the Armor w/ Hannah Graves

    Episode 12- Shedding the Armor w/ Hannah Graves

    Tattoos, piercings, punk rock, rockabilly- the look and the subculture can have a hard-shell appearance, but what about those individuals underneath? What is the relationship between subculture and individual identity? Is there a correlation between mental health and extreme tattooing? How do subcultures give us strength and armor, and at what point are we lost to ideology? Is there a false security in our fight for belonging? 

    This is one woman’s journey--how she found hope, strength and security in a subculture, while also learning to shed the armor and uncover her own truth and find an authentic direction for herself. This episode deals with mental health, including anxiety and depression, drug and alcohol addiction, suicide, loss, and recovery.

    Episode 11- Making Birth Visible w/ Carmen Winant

    Episode 11- Making Birth Visible w/ Carmen Winant

    I want to start at the beginning, with birth. This episode includes my own story about a traumatic birth and my interview with visual artist and writer, Carmen Winant, to talk about her work, My Birth, the powerful installation at the MoMA, the missing and misrepresentations of birth in cultural representations as well as the challenges in the transition into motherhood. In addition to birth, we also talked about feminism in motherhood, and the potential for political action around these specific women’s issues, birth, and parenting.

    For more information about Carmen Winant here is a link to her website: carmenwinant.com

    A few mentions. About Face is a member of Bear Radio, the premier English speaking podcast network of Berlin.

    Music for this episode was provided by Miss Kenichi.

     

    Episode 10 - Making Amends and Self-Forgiveness w/ Jason Snell (Part 2)

    Episode 10 - Making Amends and Self-Forgiveness w/ Jason Snell (Part 2)

    How do we learn to accept ourselves and our past? Jason and I follow up on the destruction that ended in death and loss in a story about recovery and reparations. We talk about how to let go, the gratitude and peace that can be found in survival, how his own recovery made him realize an authentic life. We also talk about forgiving ourselves and our parents and why people who are more sensitive to the world are more likely to become addicts. 

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    And a few music credits. Most of the tracks used on this episode are the creative inventions of my guest, Jason Snell under the artist name, The Space Where She Was from the albums, What we Lost and How to Play. You also heard original music from Miss Kenichi from her album Fox. 

    Don’t forget to check out some of the other featured programs on Bear Radio, the premier English speaking podcast network in Berlin.

    I’m currently looking for guests for Season 2 of About Face, so if you have a story about personal transformation or significant turning points in your own life that changed you, send me an email. You can write me directly by using the contact form on our website at aboutfacepodcast.com.