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    Leaves of Absence - Section 17 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Leaves of Absence - Section 17 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On today's Contract 2020 TA Education, we hear from our usual host, Kurt Heidemann, on Section 17, Leaves of Absence.

    00:16    Big Picture Changes
    00:38    General Section Overview
    01:17    LOA and Vacation
    01:53    Longevity
    02:34    Emergency and Bereavement Leave
    03:45    Sick Leave Accrual
    05:05    Visibility of Sick Time
    05:38    Sick Bank Buyback Discussion and Accrual Protection
    06:15    Automated Sick Calls and Online Sick Calls
    07:17    Medical Leave
    07:50    Personal Leave
    08:15    Moving Leave
    09:22    Legal Duty Leave
    10:25    Military LOA      
    11:16    Family Leave (Maternity, Paternity, and Extended Bonding)
    14:58    Return to Active Status
    16:43    Reference to Benefits Chart

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Hotel Standards - Section 16 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Hotel Standards - Section 16 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from Contract Admin Chair, Seth Kornblum,  on Section 16, Hotel Standards.

    00:16    Hotels List
    01:17    Hotels Standards Manual
    02:23    Required Accommodations
    05:01    The Crew Accommodations Board (CAB)
    07:34    Hotel Standards Provisions
    08:34    Short and Long Stipulations
    10:06    Self Walk Protections
    10:47    Transportation Requirements
    15:00    Accommodation Selection and Ongoing Review Process
    16:48    CAB Data Sharing
    17:37    Operational Support and Self-Sourcing
    19:36    Planning and Execution
    21:01    Full Service Language

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Miscellaneous - Sections 7, 8, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Miscellaneous - Sections 7, 8, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from Kurt Heidemann on several small sections, starting with Section 7, Seniority, Section 8, Vacancies, Section 20, Safety, Section 22, Furlough, Section 23, Supervisory Duties, Section 24 Dues, Section 25, IT, and Section 27, Terms of Agreement.

    00:50    Seniority
    02:40    Domicile Right of Return
    03:31    Downgrade Language
    03:54    Seat Locks
    04:14    Safety and Data Collection
    05:43    Recording Device Language
    06:23    Incident Handling Language
    07:46    Oversight 
    08:10    Data Retention
    08:31    Furlough
    10:28    EXTO Contingencies
    11:45    Supervisory Duties
    12:31    Chief and Assistant Chief Requirements
    14:17    Dues
    15:34    Information Technology
    16:53    All Things Crew Management Systems – CWA etc
    22:57    HIMS Manual, Hotel Standards, SOE Exception List
    23:23    Duration

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Vacation - Section 14 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Vacation - Section 14 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from SRC member, Dan O'Connor, about Section 14, Vacation.

    00:21    3 Main Changes to Vacation
    01:22    1.5% Floor and Industry Comparison
    03:33    Additional Spring Break Weeks
    04:08    Elimination of Floating Vacation + More Open Time Weeks
    06:13    Vacation Trade Opening
    07:11    The Value Add of Removing Floating Vacation
    08:33    New Vacation Bidding Process
    10:50    Vacation Bidding Interface
    11:27    Vacation Accrual
    12:45    Vacation Days Adjustment Ability
    13:46    New Vacation Alerts and “Line Tuner”
    14:15    Vacation Cash In

    For more information, visit the Contract 2020 TA Education Resource Center on swapa.org.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Reserve - Section 13 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Reserve - Section 13 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from SRC Chair, Scott Plyler and SRC member Dan O'Connor, about Section 13, Reserve.

    01:02    The Reserve Proffer Process (RPP) 
    02:08    How RCO and RPP Interact
    03:32    Non Conforming Pairings
    05:42    Reserve Preferences
    06:23    Release to Check In
    09:20    LCO/Pay Multiple Integration
    10:59    Release at the End of A Trip
    12:17    Deadhead Release         
    12:46    Short Notice Call Outs
    15:59    Split to Cover Language
    17:41    Inbound Reserve Language
    18:57    Voluntary Double Time
    22:18    Sim Seat Support
    23:14    RAP Adjustments and Contactable Windows
    24:51    Reserve Pay
    27:42    Red-Eye RAPs
    29:29    Re-Cap

    For more information, visit the Contract 2020 TA Education Resource Center on swapa.org.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    OJI - Section 17 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    OJI - Section 17 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from Negotiating Committee Member, Damian Jennette,  on Section 17, OJI.

     00:25    TPAs and Compensable/Non Compensable Discussion
    02:07    OJI in Current CBA vs New TA
    04:20    Sick Bank Usage
    04:54    Flight Ops Involvement
    06:08    Description of Official Duties
    07:09    HDQ Chief Pilot Involvement      
    08:16    OJI Manual and Voluntary Duties
    09:30    Compensable Claims and CC Pull
    11:03    Death Benefits

    For more information, visit the Contract 2020 TA Education Resource Center on swapa.org.


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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Exchange of Flying - Section 10 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Exchange of Flying - Section 10 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from SRC Chair, Scott Plyler and SRC member, Dan O'Connor about Section 10, Exchange of Flying.

    00:18    Change in Exchange of Flying and Automation
    00:35    TTGA Changes
    02:18    TTGA Over Non-Flys
    03:55    New Open Time Giveaway Rules
    05:15    Jetway Trades
    06:09    ELITT Changes 
    08:22    DTC Limitations
    08:38    PNZ
    10:15    Co-Terminal ELITT
    11:43    Direct Drop and Pickup Details
    13:20    Reserve ELITT
    14:13    ELITT DTC

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Schedule Execution - Section 12 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Schedule Execution - Section 12 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from SRC members, Scott Plyler, Dan O'Connor, and Megan Nelan about Section 12, Schedule Execution.

    01:09    Checkin & Report, Release
    01:51    Legalities During Execution
    03:49    Execution Timeline Table Discussion
    06:28    Crew Contact Rules
    08:08    Rest Requirements
    09:30    Deadheading Language and Standards
    12:45    IROPS Discussion
    13:37    Commuter Rules
    15:28    Company Scheduled Ground Transportation
    16:58    Removal From Flying (Fatigue and Sick)
    18:29    Expired, Lost, and Stolen Documents
    19:16    All Things Footprint Protection Preferences
    24:48    Preferences Waiver Between Company and Association
    26:08    Reassignments
    26:57    Significant Disruptions
    29:27    Cost Incentives
    30:26    Cancellation Reassignment Timeline
    32:40    JA Language
    34:08    JA Provisions
    34:45    Personal Net Zeros (PNZs)
    35:29    JA Reassignments
    36:13    JA Hotels
    36:35    Next Day JA
    37:22    Order of JAs

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    Voluntary Additional Flying - Section 11 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    Voluntary Additional Flying - Section 11 | Contract 2020 TA Education

    On this Contract 2020 TA Education episode, we'll hear from SRC Chair, Scott Plyler and SRC Member, Dan O'Connor about Section 11, Voluntary Additional Flying.

    00:24    Voluntary Additional Flying Overview     
    00:44    Contractual Splits
    01:32    STC and Open Time
    03:27    Open Time Rigs
    04:12    Changes to Monthly Open Time
    07:16    Review of Pay Multiples
    08:53    MOT and OTP Working Together
    09:46    ELITT and DOT Changes
    11:28    Open Time Alerts
    12:01    Reserve Integration
    12:41    Hourly Open Time
    13:05    Short Notice Open Time
    13:29    Voluntary Double Time (VDT)
    15:18    CAP Discussion
    16:08    The Flow of Open Time, ELITT of Pay Multiples
    17:18    Last Resort Flying (LRF)

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usDecember 19, 2023

    20 (Negotiations Q&A, Kurt Heidemann)

    20 (Negotiations Q&A, Kurt Heidemann)

    Today's SWAPA Number is 20, as in 20 questions, because that's what we're doing today on the show with typical host, Kurt Heidemann, who also happens to be a part of the NC.

    We've been in negotiations for more than three years, and the SEP process ran for two years before that. With that much time, a lot of our pilots either forgot or weren't here to know the why's behind some of our asks and how the NC conducts our negotiations. So today, we spent some time talking with Kurt about those why's.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usNovember 27, 2023

    11/30 (Expectations, Casey Murray, Jody Reven)

    11/30 (Expectations, Casey Murray, Jody Reven)

    Today's SWAPA Number is 11/30. That's the date the federal mediators assigned to our negotiation have indicated that they expect Southwest and SWAPA will have a deal. So on today's show, we'll speak with SWAPA President, Casey Murray and Negotiating Committee Chair, Jody Reven. about what that date could mean and what our members can expect as that date arrives.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usNovember 13, 2023

    $70,000 (Contract Admin, Seth Kornblum)

    $70,000 (Contract Admin, Seth Kornblum)

    Today's SWAPA Number is $70,000. That's roughly what SWAPA spends on an arbitration when we and the Company can't settle a grievance before it gets that far. Arbitrations are a required part of the RLA process that we operate in as professional pilots. Today, we're going to talk with Contract Admin chair, Seth Kornblum about some of the work that he and his committee do to defend our CBA from violations, and our pilots from potential discipline.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usOctober 30, 2023

    4 (Pilot Healthcare, Todd Hermling, Tony Capparella)

    4 (Pilot Healthcare, Todd Hermling, Tony Capparella)

    Amy Robinson:

    Today's SWAPA Number is four, as in stage four cancer. Imagine if you were given that diagnosis by your doctor on today's show, myself and Tony Caparella from the Benefits team ended up talking with SWAPA pilot Todd Hermling about what he felt when he heard those words from his doctor as well as what he's experienced while he's been out on disability. We also talked about how he dealt not only with his diagnosis, but what advice he has for other pilots who may be going through the same thing.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usOctober 16, 2023

    $37.5 million (Budget, Tom Nekouei, Hank Ketchum, Brian Hickman)

    $37.5 million (Budget, Tom Nekouei, Hank Ketchum, Brian Hickman)

    Today's SWAPA Number is $37.5 million. That's the total expenses in the 2024 budget, which will be voted on by the membership this month in the fall general election. Today, we're going to talk to SWAPA's Second Vice President Tom Nekouei, Executive Operating Committee member Hank Ketchum, and Director of Finance Brian Hickman about the next year's budget and what changes might be included and how the money is being spent.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usOctober 02, 2023

    18 (Negotiations, Jody Reven, Kurt Heidemann, Damian Jennette)

    18 (Negotiations, Jody Reven, Kurt Heidemann, Damian Jennette)
    Today's SWAPA Number is 18. That's the number of days the NMB has given us for the next 10 weeks. Those extra days with additional unmediated sessions for language writing will help us get closer to a deal. So today we're going to talk to the SWAPA NC Chair Jody Reven and NC members Kurt Heidemann and Damian Jennette about the latest in negotiations and where we might be going.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usSeptember 18, 2023

    12 (Elections, Dan Mosher)

    12 (Elections, Dan Mosher)
    Today's SWAPA Number is 12. That's the number of BOD seats that are up for election next month, which include one for each domicile, plus the vice president executive seat. Today's podcast will take a different tack from our normal format where our hosts will serve as guests in a roundtable discussion on the importance of SWAPA board representation changes we've enacted for this election cycle, and how you can get involved and make a difference that impacts the lives of every pilot on the Southwest seniority list.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usSeptember 11, 2023

    5 (Nationwide Picket, Pilot Sentiment)

    5 (Nationwide Picket, Pilot Sentiment)

    Today's SWAPA Number is 5. Last week, SWAPA pilots participated in our first ever nationwide picket at 5 domiciles, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Houston and Los Angeles. 

    On this Labor Day edition of the SWAPA Number, we're going to talk to those pilots who came together to show their support for an industry-leading contract and to demonstrate their unity and resolve.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usSeptember 04, 2023

    649,000 (Training and Professional Standards, Greg Bowen and Jon Ross)

    649,000 (Training and Professional Standards, Greg Bowen and Jon Ross)

    Today's SWAPA Number is 649,000. That's the number of new pilots that Boeing projects will be needed to staff the growing demand for airlines in the next two decades. With such a high demand and low supply of qualified aviators, business as usual from the past must change to meet this new reality. On today's episode, we will be talking with the Training Committee Chair, Captain Greg Bowen and Professional Standards chair, Captain Jon Ross, about the pilot shortage, how training must adapt to the new and diverse experience of our recruits, and what pilots can do to acclimate to the new environment we find ourselves in.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usAugust 21, 2023

    23 (Schedule Research Committee, Scott Plyler, Dan O'Connor and Meagan Nelan)

    23 (Schedule Research Committee, Scott Plyler, Dan O'Connor and Meagan Nelan)

    Today's SWAPA Number is 23. That's the number of pages of SWAPA's Schedule Execution language that was missing from Labor Relations' last pass of work rules. Our proposals to mitigate long days, short overnights and a historic fatigue rate were completely ignored in their counter. 
    So today's on the show, we're going to talk to the three SRC members who are working with the Negotiating Committee to deliver protections for our pilots in Contract 2020. Scott Plyler, member, Dan O'Connor, and Analyst Manager, Meagan Nelan, will help us understand what they're seeing in the room and what's holding up the work rules negotiations. 

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usAugust 07, 2023

    402 (Matt Minguela, Tony Caparella, Benefits)

    402 (Matt Minguela, Tony Caparella, Benefits)

    Today's SWAPA number is $402. That's the dollar amount that SWAPA members pay for their long-term and short-term disability per month. Today on the show we're going to talk to SWAPA pilot Matt Minguela about his experience on disability, as well as Benefits Committee member Tony Caparella, to give us more information on what is lacking in your benefits, what you can do to make the process easier and what needs to change to be competitive in today's marketplace.

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    The SWAPA Number
    en-usJuly 31, 2023
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