The Vana Room

Christianne Kinney is a music attorney based in Los Angeles, CA. She represents artists, celebrities, intellectual property owners, and tech companies in the entertainment space. She is a Billboard Top Music Attorney and one of the Top Women Attorneys in Los Angeles by the Los Angeles Business Journal.

In this conversation, Christianne, Monique, and Lennon discuss AI, NFTs, Web3, Metaverse, and how copyrights and contracts apply to these emerging technologies, among many other topics.

0:00 - Intro
1:20 - About Christianne Kinney
9:18 - Clauses in contracts for Metaverse
12:20 - Who's governing contracts in the Metaverse?
18:20 - Will an org be created to oversee the Metaverse, NFTs, and AI?
19:57 - Getting out of signing something you shouldn't have
22:43 - Biggest issue with musicians entering into Metaverse space
27:09 - AI and copyright
34:26 - AI doesn't have soul
38:20 - Transferring contracts from the 'real world' into the Metaverse
41:47 - Loss of confidence in Government to oversee emerging technologies
44:19 - Business in Metaverse: Service or Product?
49:55 - Issuing DMCAs in Metaverse + what if you don't know who did it?
51:38 - Can indie artists issue DMCA takedowns, or should an attorney handle it?
57:03 - Christianne's experience in Metaverse

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Sound Royalties is a financial services company that works with creatives to fund their businesses and endeavors. For musicians, this means Sound Royalties can analyze your various revenue streams and determine how much money you "qualify" for as an advance. Sound Royalties keeps the process simple and highly transparent.

Monique and Lennon speak with Sound Royalties' CEO, Alex Heiche, and President, Michael Bizenov, about how their business works and what the advances can (and have done) do for creatives.

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Davey Jay is an Orlando, Florida-based entertainment attorney. In this episode, which is part of our contract series, Davey, Monique, and Lennon discuss the inner workings of an admin publishing deal. Davey discusses the differences between and admin publishing deal versus a traditional publishing deal.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GPqQjvLzg3k

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Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is not legal advice. It is strictly for entertainment purposes only. If you need assistance on a particular matter, contact an attorney. 

Bruno Guez is the founder, CEO and futurist at Revelator, the leading tech company powering the music industry. He founded Revelator to provide the technology infrastructure to move & manage the digital distribution business. He is the former Director on the Board of Merlin Network, the leading music rights agency. Guez brings over 30 years of experience as a seasoned digital music executive working with Chris Blackwell's Island Records and Guy Laliberte's Cirque du Soleil.

Revelator offers solutions to power catalog management, digital assets, supply chain, financial reporting, rights and royalty management, analytics, and business intelligence.

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Learn more about Web3 here: https://www.simplilearn.com/tutorials/blockchain-tutorial/what-is-web-3-0

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Chris Jay is an RIAA-Certified Platinum recording, mixing, and mastering engineer based in Orlando, Florida. Over the course of his nearly two-decade career he has worked with artists and groups like Outkast, Missy Elliot, and The Beach Boys. He has also worked in the audio department on a number of films, TV shows, and video games.

Monique, Lennon, and Chris dive deep into how and why artists should work with an audio engineer like Chris. They talk about studio preparedness and etiquette, how to find a good engineer, and the various pieces of metadata that a mastering engineer should submit to labels and/or artists.

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Welcome to season two of The Vana Room podcast! Our first guest is Davey Jay, an intellectual property attorney and partner at Meehle & Jay in Orlando, Florida.

Davey, Monique, and Lennon talk about publishing agreements in this episode. Davey highlights the red flags in contracts (you don't need to be an attorney to spot them), various clauses that music publishing agreements include, and how you can get the attention of music publishers.

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Big name artists and musicians like Stevie Nicks and Bruce Springsteen are selling their music publishing catalogs to companies like Hipgnosis and Primary Wave, among others. Why are musicians selling their catalogs and rights?

There are a variety of reasons why a musician may sell their catalog, and Lennon, Davey, and Monique go over them in this episode. Davey shares some practical advice to consider if you're thinking about selling your copyrights and music publishing rights to someone else or another business.

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Disclaimer: The information provided in this video is for educational purposes only. The advice or information shared in this video is not legal advice. If you have specific legal questions, consult an attorney in your jurisdiction.

Mental health in the music industry has quite often been pushed to the side. Musicians and various music professionals fail to recognize its importance. However, the stigma around mental health is beginning to dwindle which is huge because music professionals are in one of the most grueling industries out there.

Since mental health is so important, Monique and Lennon discuss a few things that they've found helpful to themselves over the years to maintain their mental health.

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Silence The Shame: https://silencetheshame.com/
Backline: https://backline.care/
MusiCares: https://www.musicares.org/
Music Minds Matter: https://www.musicmindsmatter.org.uk/
Music Health Alliance: https://www.musichealthalliance.com/
Music Industry Therapist Collective (MITC): https://musicindustrytherapists.com/

Disclaimer: We are not mental health professionals, and the companies and/or tips mentioned throughout this episode should not be taken as medical advice.

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Keith Kirk is a metadata specialist based in the UK. He has worked with a number of artists and major record labels, including Universal Music Group, Sony Music, BMG, Kobalt, and many more.

In this episode, Monique and Lennon chat with Keith about UPCs, ISRCs, ISNIs, and more. Keith goes over the importance of metadata, how to accurately keep track of it, and when you should begin keeping track of this metadata.

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GS1: https://www.gs1us.org/
US ISRC: https://usisrc.org/

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Building your team as a musician will be one of the best things you can do for your career. If you're not sure of how to approach or do something, there are music professionals out there who will help you. They include artist managers, publicists, sync agents, tour managers, and more.

In this episode, Monique and Lennon discuss what this team looks like and how you can reach out to various music professionals at different stages in your career.

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Why do so many artists release music on Friday? Should independent musicians release music on a Friday? There are a few reasons why you may want to consider releasing this day of the week and why you may not.

Monique and Lennon briefly discuss why music is commonly released on Fridays, as well as how you can tie this into your music marketing plan.

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Did you know there are ways you can sell your band/artist merch for free? It doesn't cost you anything. The printing company will simply take a percentage of your sales. They'll even handle customer support and shipping! There is no excuse for not having merch for your music.

Monique and Lennon dive into how you can start selling your merch for free, some ideas for merch, and some important information on pricing and working with a graphic designer.

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Education in any professional workspace is critical in order to continue advancing in your career. There are a number of resources that are available for you to learn for free, at a really affordable price, or expensive, such as a higher education institution. But do you need to go to college to succeed in the music business?

Monique and Lennon tackle this question in this episode. Lennon and Monique both attended college, and Monique has been an educator for more than 20 years. We dive head first into this topic from the perspective of former students as well as an instructor at a university.

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The MLC, which stands for Mechanical Licensing Collective, was established in 2018 under the Music Modernization Act. The MLC's responsibility is to collect the blanket mechanical royalties that is paid by the digital service providers (Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, etc). At the time of this episode's publishing, the MLC has paid out more than $500 million in mechanical royalties.

In this episode, Monique, Lennon, and Robert speak with the MLC's CEO Kris Ahrend to breakdown what exactly their responsibilities are, what royalties do they collect, and how musicians and songwriters can sign up and begin collecting their mechanical royalties.

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What royalties are earned when someone streams your music on Spotify, Apple Music, or Amazon Music? Who collects those royalties? Where do you sign up? These are the most common questions for musicians looking to collect their royalties. Your music distributor does NOT collect all of them for you!

In this episode, Monique and Lennon discuss the various types of royalties, specifically mechanical, when music is streamed digitally.

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The MLC: https://www.themlc.com/
Songtrust: https://www.songtrust.com/
BMI: https://www.bmi.com/
ASCAP: https://www.ascap.com/
SoundExchange: https://www.soundexchange.com/
ISNI: https://isni.org/

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The music industry can seem like a desolate void, but there are so many really strong organizations that offer a number of things to its members. For example, joining a PRO like ASCAP or BMI will not only get you on track to collect your performance royalties, but these organizations also offer various webinars, networking events, and even discounts to services and products.

With so many good organizations available to creatives in all areas of music, Monique and Lennon sit down to discuss which ones you should consider joining.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5hpBycSzgig

Music Gateway's list of music resources: https://www.musicgateway.com/music-industry-resources

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Music marketing has changed drastically over the past decade. The days of uploading your music to your distributor, like Jamvana, and hoping for the best are long gone. There is an extensive process that needs to take place after you upload your music to your aggregator and before the music is released publicly. It can be costly, but it doesn't have to be.

In this episode, Monique and Robert discuss how musicians can digitally market their music in 2022 on a budget, as well as some helpful tools to use.

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Yok Digital: https://yokdigital.com/
Chartmetric: https://chartmetric.com/
Feature.fm: https://feature.fm/
ToneDen: https://www.toneden.io/

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A music distribution service, like Jamvana, is a company that will distribute your music to all of the major digital service providers, like Apple Music, Spotify, TIDAL, and more. Every music distribution company operates very differently, so you should always conduct in-depth research before making a decision.

In this episode, Monique and Robert discuss what types of questions you should ask yourself and what to look for when searching for the best music distribution service.

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Yok Digital: https://yokdigital.com/
Soundfly article: https://flypaper.soundfly.com/hustle/6-things-to-consider-when-choosing-a-digital-distributor-for-your-music/

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Playlisting is a fun way to curate music that you love and share with friends and family or maybe just yourself. However, since the boom of music streaming it has turned into a business as well.

There are a number of ways creatives use playlists to "game" the algorithms. And not all of them are legitimate. In fact, if a curator says that they'll add your track to their most popular playlist for $50, run. These types of practices are against numerous service providers' terms of service. Additionally, their playlists are often inflated with bots. And bots don't buy tickets to your shows or merch.

In this episode, Monique and Robert talk about how you can succeed in playlisting.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/z0DqJ67kX-A

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In this episode, hosts Monique and Lennon sit down with Orlando, Florida-based intellectual property and entertainment attorney Davey Jay to discuss copyright registrations, scammy third party copyright registration sites, and how to get proper permissions when using someone else's work.

Davey Jay is an intellectual property and entertainment lawyer at Meehle & Jay in Orlando, Florida. She has been an educator for more than a decade and has developed courses for Full Sail University Music Business Bachelor's program as well as their Film Production Master of Fine Art program. In addition, she's always speaking at events around Florida, including the American Bar Association's Entertainment Law Symposium, The Network Music Conference, Miami FearFest, and many more.

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