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    Unpacking Mormonism

    Unpacking is in the title of the show and it applies to all of us; being self-aware requires us to be critical of unhelpful patterns, but we also have to give credit and forgive ourselves as well. Understanding why you did what you did, is extraordinarily helpful. Sarah an ex-Mo and licensed counselor on a journey to unpack Mormonism and other religious trauma is joined by her husband Mason, a former bishop and active member of the Mormon church. Sarah and Mason have been married for 23 years and have 7 children together. Sarah is an author, podcast personality and counsels in her private practice. Mason is a retired Army officer and registered nurse anesthetist. We hope our show will demonstrate how to communicate with respect on difficult topics that we don't always agree about; but still take time to have a chuckle about our personal foibles and peeves. This is of supreme importance as we learn about ourselves. Using the lessons in our podcasts, you will learn how to become your authentic self and that you can still be in a good place, even with changes to make in your life. We love hearing from you, drop us a line and let us know how your heart and head are doing. daisygirlcommunications@gmail.com
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    224 - Temple Series # 8 - Does it have a name? Yes it does...

    224 - Temple Series # 8 - Does it have a name? Yes it does...

    What do Mark Harmon and Lisa Kudrow have to do with Mason and Sarah? Really, nothing at all, but they have played characters with names that do. Is it a stretch to make this comparison to pique your curiosity? Yes, it is, but we have to get you to click that play button so we can talk about these things; it is crucial to your mental health and agency. 

     

    We want to hear from you! Reach out to DaisyGirlCommunications@Gmail.com and ask us questions; share your experiences with your religion, Mormon or otherwise.

     

    The Temple Sealing...not ceiling. 

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgf5KRvu4Ig

     

    The Stephen Hassan Bite model. Freedom of Mind Resource Center.

     

    https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

     

     

    223 - Temple Series # 7 - Baptisms for the Dead

    223 - Temple Series # 7 - Baptisms for the Dead

    Please, let's give a special thank you to the Westbrook kiddos for joining Sarah and Mason for today's topic. 

    What if you were taught that a person's entire salvation (as in going to heaven or hell), a person you had never met and is now, in fact, dead, was dependent on you being baptized for them? You read that right, friend. Do you even have a choice if that were the case? I mean...we are talking hell here. The worst place ever...it's gonna be rough. 

    From Wikipedia - 

    Baptism for the dead, vicarious baptism or proxy baptism today commonly refers to the religious practice of baptizing a person on behalf of one who is dead—a living person receiving the rite on behalf of a deceased person.

    Baptism for the dead is best known as a doctrine of the Latter Day Saint movement, which has practiced it since 1840. It is currently practiced by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), where it is performed only in dedicated temples, as well as in several other current factions of the movement. Those who practice this rite view baptism as an essential requirement to enter the Kingdom of God, and therefore practice baptism for the dead to offer it by proxy to those who died without the opportunity to receive it. The LDS Church teaches that those who have died may choose to accept or reject the baptisms done on their behalf.

    Baptism for the dead is mentioned in (1 Corinthians 15:29) as proof of a physical resurrection, though the exact meaning of the phrase is an open question among scholars. The plainest reading of the Greek text suggests vicarious baptisms performed by the living on behalf of the deceased, but some scholars dispute whether Paul approved of the practice or whether the verse truly refers to an actual physical practice among early Christians.[1] Early heresiologists Epiphanius of Salamis (Panarion 28) and Chrysostom (Homilies 40) attributed the practice respectively to the Cerinthians and to the Marcionites, whom they identified as heretical "Gnostic" groups, while Ambrosiaster and Tertullian affirmed that the practice was legitimate and found among the New Testament Christians (though Tertullian later recanted his original beliefs in his later life as he became associated with Montanism).[2] The practice was forbidden by the Councils of Carthage in the last decade of the fourth century AD, and is therefore not practiced in modern mainstream Christianity, whether Nestorian, Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, or any traditional Protestant churches.

     

    222 - Temple Series # 6 - We've Got Some Temple Secrets

    222 - Temple Series # 6 - We've Got Some Temple Secrets

    Guess what, we've got temple secrets, yes we do. We've got temple secrets...how about you? We are joined by the dynamic duo of Julia Sanders and American Marvel of Analyzing Mormonism, so you know it's gonna be a party. Click that link and hear about the changes that have occurred with the anointing and the preparation, and wonder how we even got here. Fun fact, the fella who played satan in the old temple entrance video was in the classic 80's movie "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun." 

     

    Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and Consensual Non-monogamy by Jessica Fern.

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/52569124

     

    We have to ask, how is the head and how is the heart? 

    DaisyGirlCommunications@gmail.com and let us know. 

     

     

     

     

    221 - Temple Series # 5 - The Initiatory

    221 - Temple Series # 5 - The Initiatory

    Welcome to our growing family of...well people who are tired of bullshit I suppose. Happy 2024, let's get started with a discussion on what goes on inside the temple...and Sarah reveals the "new name" she was given in her endowment ceremony. 

     

    Start your 2024 off right by getting your butt down to our private Facebook group and sharing what you are working on this year. 

     

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/unpackingmormonismandotherreligioustrauma

     

     

    220 - Temple Series # 4 - Can it still be called temple prep, if it doesn't prepare you?

    220 - Temple Series # 4 - Can it still be called temple prep, if it doesn't prepare you?

    The Temple experience. Not just a sweet band name but a very sensitive, mysterious, and protected ceremony. This episode is about the preparation for the temple, the lack of proper preparation...or some might even say consent. 


     
    Hey, y'all. We do this for you because we love you and ask for a lot in return, that being your time and attention. Could we ask for a little more? Please leave us a good or bad review and give us feedback on the Daisy Girl Communications Facebook page. It is not set to private, and anyone can post there. Come on, hit us with your best shot. 

     

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    219 - Temple Series # 3 - Temple Admittance

    219 - Temple Series # 3 - Temple Admittance

    We welcome Kayla and Jordan back to the show as we continue through our temple series. In this episode, we talk about temple admittance. Chastity, tithing, moral cleanliness, and, of course, you must not support anything contrary to the church. 

    The Mormon church requires a lot, but according to them, they need you to obey because they want to save your soul from hell and allow you to chill and hang with your family in the afterlife. Unless you are a woman, and then you have to have babies endlessly. 

    Do you believe in hell? Do you think the afterlife sounds good? Do you want to have babies endlessly as you repopulate your new ethereal plane? 

    We were hoping you could come sound off at the private FB group because we want to hear from you and understand your point of view. 

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/unpackingmormonismandotherreligioustrauma

    218 - Temple Series # 2 - Child Indoctrination and Brain Washing

    218 - Temple Series # 2 - Child Indoctrination and Brain Washing

    We are so glad you are here. Sit down and listen. This is the second episode of our temple series, and we are going to talk about brainwashing and child indoctrination. We are just scratching the surface of these topics today; there is so much more to come. 
     
    We would love for you to share your personal experiences with the temple traditions in our private Facebook group. 

     

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/unpackingmormonismandotherreligioustrauma

     

     

    I love to see the temple. Janice Kapp Perry.

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/childrens-songbook/i-love-to-see-the-temple?lang=eng 

     

    When I am baptized. Nita Milner. 

     

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/childrens-songbook/when-i-am-baptized?lang=eng  

     


    A virtuous woman. Proverbs 31

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2002/05/living-as-women-of-virtue?lang=eng 

     

     

    Oxford Dictionary- Virtue.

    https://www.oed.com/dictionary/virtue_n 

     

    Doctrine and Covenants 18:42, 20:71, 137:10

     

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/18?lang=eng

     

     

    Westbrook Wisdom - "If you ask the question, what did Joseph Smith set up that allows for that kind of extremism, this is it."

    Westbrook Wisdom - "If you ask the question, what did Joseph Smith set up that allows for that kind of extremism, this is it."

    Dear listener. The temple series has just started, and we have hit an interesting topic as the listens are high right out of the box. Was this new information to you? Old information? We were hoping you could share these thoughts or any others you might have on the private Facebook group. Bonus points if you answer Sarah's question in the show...which requires you to click that play button. 

     

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/unpackingmormonismandotherreligioustrauma

     

     

    217 - Temple Series # 1 - Masonry and Mormonism

    217 - Temple Series # 1 - Masonry and Mormonism

    Are they just coincidences? Or is there more to it? Share with us what you think down at the Facebook ranch. It's not a party until you get there. 

     

    Our private Facebook group (no secret handshake required)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/unpackingmormonismandotherreligioustrauma

     

     

     

    Sarah's book

    https://www.audible.com/pd/Trauma-Bonded-Audiobook/B0CJRZ1YWS

     


    Method Infinite: Freemasonry and the Mormon Restoration.

    https://gregkofford.com/products/method-infinite

     


    Mormonism Live #96: Mormonism and Masonry

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKBtX2KXok4

     

     


    Mormonism Live #117 Changes to the Temple

     

    https://mormonismlive.org/2023/03/mormonism-live-117-changes-to-the-temple-the-ethics-of-ensign-peak-advisors/

     

     


    https://religionnews.com/2023/02/10/more-jesus-less-touching-14-changes-to-the-mormon-temple-endowment-ceremony/ 


    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng#title4 

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Freemasonry 

     

    Mormon Stories: Mormonism and Masonry.

     

    https://www.mormonstories.org/?s=masonry 

     

    Abducted in Plain Sight.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abducted_in_Plain_Sight

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    216 - Nervous Breakdowns, Mental Health, and Missions for the Mormon Church with Professor Barry Richins, 2 of 2

    216 - Nervous Breakdowns, Mental Health, and Missions for the Mormon Church with Professor Barry Richins, 2 of 2

    Part 2 of our conversation with Professor Barry Richins, a former professor of both Sarah and Mason. Barry shares his experiences with his mental health and suicidal ideation. We are honored and humbled that the Professor would be vulnerable with us in this space; this is the second of a two-part episode. 

     

    My Tithing Tire.

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2005/06/latter-day-saint-voices/my-tithing-tire?lang=eng#title1

     

    God: The Most Unplesant Character in All Fiction 

    https://www.amazon.com/God-Most-Unpleasant-Character-Fiction/dp/1454918322

     

     

    Matthew 10:39


    https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-10-39/

     


    Brene Brown; The Power of Vulnerability.

     

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D1Z9RFU?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_1WWC7VQFXDN1X61ZZZDJ

     

     

    215 - Nervous Breakdowns, Mental Health, and Missions for the Mormon Church with Professor Barry Richins, 1 of 2

    215 - Nervous Breakdowns, Mental Health, and Missions for the Mormon Church with Professor Barry Richins, 1 of 2

    Welcome to the show, Professor Barry Richins, a former professor of both Sarah and Mason. Barry shares his experiences with trying to reconcile his mental health with the requirements of participation and belief. We are honored and humbled that the Professor would be vulnerable with us in this space, and we are excited that this episode will be one of two that features Professor Richins. 

     

    My Tithing Tire.

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2005/06/latter-day-saint-voices/my-tithing-tire?lang=eng#title1

     

    God: The Most Unplesant Character in All Fiction 

    https://www.amazon.com/God-Most-Unpleasant-Character-Fiction/dp/1454918322

     

     

    Matthew 10:39


    https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-10-39/

     


    Brene Brown; The Power of Vulnerability.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D1Z9RFU?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_1WWC7VQFXDN1X61ZZZDJ

     

     

    Unpacking Mormonism
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