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In this episode we interview Craig Gilmore. Gilmore is a prison abolitionist, cofounder of California Prison Moratorium Project, and a member of the Community Advisory board of Critical Resistance.  

Gilmore shares practical examples of prison abolitionists stopping new prison construction in California and how those examples have helped inform organizer approaches to stopping new prisons and jails. We also talk about possible lessons these abolitionist fights have to the fight to defund police.

Gilmore also addresses various recent critiques of abolition on the left. And talks about work he uses to orient his abolitionist practice, including explaining what he thinks the relevance of Amilcar Cabral and the PAIGC is to abolitionist fights in the US. 

In conversation we also talk about violence, harm, self defense, and the opportunities and threats of this moment.

Recently, ROADS TAKEN sat down to talk with Brandon del Pozo about his journey from philosopher in the academy to the police academy and back again. Having spent nearly two decades as both an on-the-ground patrol officer and a leader in precincts and districts.  In a moment when current events have led society to question the role of policing in America, we sat down with the guy who wrote the book on it—his dissertation on police and the state—to hear what he thinks of the defunding movement and his ideas on how policing can become more effective if it works collaboratively with other social support systems around them. Join Leslie Jennings Rowley as she talks to Brandon about this for a special "Policing in America" Bonus Episode of ROADS TAKEN.

Executive Producer/Host: Leslie Jennings Rowley

Music: Clancy Rowley on a theme by Worth Rowley

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Executive Producer/Host: Leslie Jennings Rowley

Music: Brian Burrows

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Guest Brandon del Pozo, Dartmouth '96, stood on a folding chair on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange after the first tower fell on 9/11, tasked with shutting down the exchange and getting people to safety. Some people weren’t listening until a patrician old banker said “This officer’s talking, and we’re going to listen and do what he says.”  In time, a lot more people would echo that sentiment: This officer’s talking, and we’re going to listen and do what he says.

A public health, drug policy, and policing expert, Brandon helps others formulate policy by drawing on lessons learned at the intersection of on-the-street practice and his academic investigations of political philosophy over a career spent in both policing and research. He looks to both theory and evidence-based behavioral science to boil things down to systems that a person can use to improve a life on a given day.

In this episode, find out from Brandon how the philosophical and the practical can come together in ways that can be of real and deep consequence for the well-being of others…on ROADS TAKEN...with Leslie Jennings Rowley

About This Episode's Guest

Brandon del Pozo spent nearly two decades in the New York City Police Department and served as the chief of police in Burlington, Vermont, where he tackled a number of pressing societal issues, including the opioid addiction crisis. He is currently a postdoctoral public health researcher at Brown University and continues to think deeply on the systems-level reforms necessary to optimize public health and policing in America. Find him at brandondelpozo.com.

BONUS EPISODE NOTE: Listen to the Roads Diverged bonus episode with Brandon published on September 18 in which he discusses his vision for how policing in America can become a truly positive affirming force for our society provided we view it through a collaborative, systems-based lens.

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Executive Producer/Host: Leslie Jennings Rowley

Music: Brian Burrows
 

Find more episodes at https://roadstakenshow.com

Executive Producer/Host: Leslie Jennings Rowley

Music: Brian Burrows

Email the show at RoadsTakenShow@gmail.com

In this episode, Clement and Carolyn discuss current social issues. We end this episode by listening to a few comments from our loyal listeners.  Join us for this healthful discussion.  Music: “Happy”- Music by Aden.  Music:  https://www.purple-planet.com  “Folksy Days”

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·         Defunding Police Departments (04:10)

·          Fist Bump vs Elbow Bump (06:51)

·          COVID-19 cases (10:59)

·         Face Masks (16:15)

·         Social Distancing/Sheltering in Place (26:19)

·         COVID-10 (29:00)

·         Listener Responses to Civil Unrest Episode (37:03)

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After the Fulton County District Attorney announced charges against two Atlanta police officers involved in the killing of Rayshard Brooks, the debate over new rules for law enforcement continued, while the Atlanta department saw an outbreak of blue flu. Meanwhile, the Coronavirus served notice to Georgia that it hasn’t gone anywhere, and there’s a new chapter in the fight for one of Georgia’s U.S. Senate seats. Democratic strategist Tharon Johnson and Republican strategist Brian Robinson join WABE political contributor Denis O'Hayer for this edition of the Political Breakfast.

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This week we discuss calls to defund the police. And, I recently spoke with Suzanne Model , who is Emirita Professor of Sociology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, and Research Associate, Center for Research on International Migration at the University of California-Irvine. We discussed her recent paper titled “Patterns of Black–White Partnership: Black Ethnics and African Americans Compared.” The paper will be published in the Journal of Marriage and Family.

Segment 1 -- Suzanne Model on “Patterns of Black-White Partnership: Black Ethnics and African Americans Compared."

Segment 2 -- Sociological insights on the "defund the police" policy label.

This week we discuss calls to defund the police. And, I recently spoke with Suzanne Model , who is Emirita Professor of Sociology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, and Research Associate, Center for Research on International Migration at the University of California-Irvine. We discussed her recent paper titled “Patterns of Black–White Partnership: Black Ethnics and African Americans Compared.” The paper will be published in the Journal of Marriage and Family.

Segment 1 -- Suzanne Model on “Patterns of Black-White Partnership: Black Ethnics and African Americans Compared."

Segment 2 -- Sociological insights on the "defund the police" policy label.