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    Explore "poisonprevention" with insightful episodes like "Interview with Angel Bivens, BS Pharm, MBA, CSPI from the Maryland Poison Center about best practices for medication storage and disposal", "Interview with Angel Bivens, BS Pharm, MBA, CSPI" and "Interview with Dr. Wendy Stephan, educator and epidemiologist for the Florida Poison Information Center in Miami" from podcasts like ""Pharmacist's Voice", "Pharmacist's Voice" and "Pharmacist's Voice"" and more!

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    Interview with Angel Bivens, BS Pharm, MBA, CSPI from the Maryland Poison Center about best practices for medication storage and disposal

    Interview with Angel Bivens, BS Pharm, MBA, CSPI from the Maryland Poison Center about best practices for medication storage and disposal

    Happy Poison Prevention Week!  National Poison Prevention Week is March 20-26, 2022. 🇺🇸

    Second-time guest Angel Bivens (Pharmacist and Certified Specialist in Poison Information) shares best practices for medication storage and disposal.  Plus, the Maryland Poison Center is celebrating 50 years of service! Congrats! 🎉 What has changed between 1972 and 2022?  Listen, and find out!

    Read the full show notes at https://www.thepharmacistsvoice.com.  Click on the podcast tab, and search for episode 141 for Angel's full bio and highlights from our conversation.

     

    Thank you for listening to episode 141 of The Pharmacist’s Voice ® Podcast!

     

    Mentioned in this episode 

    ☎️ Poison Help Line 1-800-222-1222 (Program this in your phone today, and share with others!)

    LinkedIn for Angel Bivens https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelbivens/ 

    The Pharmacist’s Voice Podcast Episode 87 featuring Angel Bivens (March 2021)

    DEA Drug Take-Back events (spring and fall)

    Maryland Poison Center website: www.mdpoison.com

    To find your local poison center: www.aapcc.org

    Resources for pharmacists and their patients:

    Safe Storage: PROTECT Up and Away Campaign: www.upandaway.org

    FDA: Disposal of Unused Medicines Includes link to “flush list”: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/safe-disposal-medicines/disposal-unused-medicines-what-you-should-know 

    FDA and EPA home medication disposal tips https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/where-and-how-dispose-unused-medicines

    Poison Prevention Press: http://bit.ly/PoisonPrevPress
    One-page, plain language e-newsletter published every other month on varying topics; all current and previous issues available

    Poison Prevention Press sign up: http://bit.ly/MPCSignUp

    eAntidote Blog: blog.mdpoison.com 

    Facebook: MarylandPoisonCenter 

    Twitter: @MDPoisonCtr

    Instagram: @MDPoisonCenter

    YouTube: Maryland Poison Center

    Resources with clinical information for pharmacists: 

    ToxTidbits:  http://bit.ly/ToxTidbits
    One-page clinical e-newsletter published monthly on various toxicologic topics; all current and previous issues available

    ToxTidbits sign up: http://bit.ly/TTBSignUp

    Twitter: @MPCToxtidbits

    To see MPC’s one-minute, time-lapse video of a button battery cooking a hot dog, click here.

    Duquesne University 

    University of Baltimore

    Thank you for listening to episode 141 of The Pharmacist’s Voice ® Podcast!

    Interview with Angel Bivens, BS Pharm, MBA, CSPI

    Interview with Angel Bivens, BS Pharm, MBA, CSPI

    Listener discretion is advised. Some of the topics in this episode include children putting weird things in their mouths and poisonings.

    Today’s episode is an interview with Angel Bivens.  Angel is a pharmacist by training.  She has experience in retail, hospital, home infusion, and mail order pharmacy, but her true passion is working at the Maryland Poison Center (MPC). The Maryland Poison Center is part of the Department of Pharmacy Practice and Science at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy. 

    Angel has been with the Maryland Poison Center for over 25 years.  She spent the first 8 years as a specialist in poison information managing poisoning and overdose cases from the public and healthcare professionals.  Then, She spent the next 17 years in the role of public education coordinator, ensuring the more than 4 million Marylanders in the MPC service area know about their services and learn ways to keep their families safe from poison dangers in an around their home. Now an assistant director, Angel oversees operations and public education.   When she started this role in 2018, she combined her love for educating the public with responsibilities that ensure there is always someone there to help with a poisoning or overdose 24/7/365.

    Angel completed her BS in Pharmacy at Duquesne University (Pittsburgh PA) and her MBA at University of Baltimore (Baltimore MD). She also holds the designation of Certified Specialist in Poison Information (CSPI) after successfully completing the American Association of Poison Control Centers certification examination in 1990, 1998, 2005, 2012, and 2019.

    For more information

    Angel LinkedIn: angelbivens

    Maryland Poison Center website: www.mdpoison.com

    To find your local poison center: www.aapcc.org

    Resources for pharmacists and their patients:

    Poison Prevention Press: http://bit.ly/PoisonPrevPress
    One-page, plain language e-newsletter published every other month on varying topics; all current and previous issues available

    Poison Prevention Press sign up: http://bit.ly/MPCSignUp

    eAntidote Blog: blog.mdpoison.com

    Facebook: MarylandPoisonCenter

    Twitter: @MDPoisonCtr

    YouTube: Maryland Poison Center

    Resources with clinical information for pharmacists: 

    ToxTidbits:  http://bit.ly/ToxTidbits
    One-page clinical e-newsletter published monthly on various toxicologic topics; all current and previous issues available

    ToxTidbits sign up: http://bit.ly/TTBSignUp

    Twitter: @MPCToxtidbits

    Highlights from the interview

    Angel wore many hats over her years at the Maryland Poison Center.  As a Poison Center Specialist, she managed poisonings and overdoses.  As a Poison Center Educator, she educated the public and created educational materials.  As an Assistant Director, she improves the visability of the poison center and forms partnerships in the community.

    As a pharmacy student, Angel loved toxicology.  As a young pharmacist, she heard about an opening at the MPC, applied, and got the job right away.  

    Pharmacists, nurses, and doctors staff most poison centers.  Poison Center job applicants need to match the Center’s needs.  In general, a PharmD with experience is required for pharmacist applicants.  No additional residency or certification is needed.  

    Once hired, on-the-job training is extensive.  It can take at least 3 months before a pharmacist is ready to manage cases independently after training.  After managing 2,500 human exposure calls, pharmacists are required to sit for the CSPI Exam to become a Certified Specialist in Poison Information.

    What resources do poison specialists use most often?  Angel said, the poison center staff’s experience and knowledge base is a great resource!  Because they manage 2,000-5,500 calls/year, they learn a lot.  Over many years, that knowledge base is big!  Other resources include Poisondex,  Gold-Franks Toxicologic Emergencies, Lange:  Poisonings and Overdoses, online journals, and consultants (medical and clinical toxicologists). 

    Angel told a memorable story about a call she answered from a teenager who OD’ed on aspirin.  Back in the day, the poison center traced the call and called an ambulance.  The patient got treatment and survived. 

    The best way for anyone to contact the poison center is 1-800-222-1222.  It’s a “smart phone number” and directs you to the nearest poison center geographically.  Poison Centers work together, so cases are seamlessly transferred to local poison centers assigned to your area.  It even works on US cell phones outside the US.  Calls are triaged, but all are managed.  

    There’s no such thing as the “busiest day of the year,” but on July 4 and Halloween, there are lots of calls related to glow sticks.

    Poison centers field calls from a variety of callers:  fire, EMS, parents of kids of all ages, children of elderly parents, grandparents raising grandchildren, Emergency Centers, critical care teams, pharmacists, and more.  Reasons pharmacists call poison centers:  Drug ID, drug-drug interactions, drug-supplement interactions, and non-medicine ingestions.  

    Angel says that knowing you’re actually helping someone is a great feeling.  It’s very rewarding.

    Angel knew it was time to change hats from poison specialist to educator when her young son wanted her to be home when he was home.  Becoming an educator helped her have a more consistent schedule, mostly M-F on day shift.  She used her marketing and communication skills as an educator.  Plus, her MBA qualified her for the role.

    Angel educates pharmacy students, medical students, paramedics, and more.  MPC has a robust educational program, so she can sit in and listen to the toxicologist talk about cases.  

    The most unusual call Angel fielded was about a goat who ate something the owner thought the goat should not have eaten.  Her database has some information about animals, but Poison Centers focus on humans.  Angel gave the goat owner two phone numbers for animal poison centers, and the goat’s owner was happy to try those.  I mentioned that this story reminded me of the children’s book Gregory the Terrible Eater.

    One of the biggest challenges poison specialists face is managing oddball cases.  New things don’t have a lot of literature to research.  Sometimes, poison specialists need to consult with clinical toxicologists for oddball calls.  Plus, the phones keep ringing while trying to manage oddball cases; that’s a challenge too.  As an educator, a challenge is reaching people.  As an Assistant Director, a challenge is getting the phones staffed.  It’s also a challenge to get people to call vs using Google.  Angel urges everyone to get the right answer right away from a trained poison specialist.  Call a Poison Center 1-800-222-1222.  Taking the time to look at Google and sort through search results might be misleading and delay treatment.  Poison Centers make follow-up calls for exposures.  

    Poisonings can happen to anyone.  Parents who work at poison centers have also had to call.  It can happen to anybody.  

    Angel said that the best things about working at the poison center are helping people and the variety of exposure cases.  Poison specialists don’t get bored.  She likes to learn about new drugs, chemicals, TikTok videos, and things on the news, like “challenges.”  

    One thing people don’t realize about working at a poison center is that pharmacists, nurses, and others answer calls and respond without a script.  

    Over the years, Angel has worked different schedules.  As a poison specialist, it varied.  Present day, shifts on weekdays are 12 hours in length; weekend shifts are 10-hour shifts.  Midnight-shift pharmacists work 7-on/7-off.  Poison Specialists work holidays too.  As an educator, she worked mostly days, but she worked some evenings and weekends for programs too.  As an Assistant Director, Angel works typical administration hours.

    Poison Prevention Week is March 21-27, 2021, to raise awareness about poisonings.  According to the AAPCC’s website, the third full week in March each year is National Poison Prevention Week (NPPW), a week dedicated to raising awareness to poison control centers and the Poison Help Hotline (1-800-222-1222).

    How can pharmacists get involved?  Visit aapcc.org or reach out to your local poison center and ask to speak to the educator.  Call 1-800-222-1222 to get in touch with the educator at the poison center.  Pharmacists can set up a table with resources.  Some poison centers are looking for volunteers.  Ask educator how you can get materials:  stickers, magnets, and brochures.  

    Interview with Dr. Wendy Stephan, educator and epidemiologist for the Florida Poison Information Center in Miami

    Interview with Dr. Wendy Stephan, educator and epidemiologist for the Florida Poison Information Center in Miami

    Today’s episode is an interview with Dr. Wendy Stephan, an educator and epidemiologist for the Florida Poison Information Center in Miami.  As a poison prevention advocate and educator, she shares important messages through storytelling.  **Listener discretion is advised.**  Some of the topics in this episode include children putting weird things in their mouths, poisoning, injury, death, medicine looks like candy, and more.  Again, listener discretion is advised.

    Dr. Wendy Stephan is the educator and epidemiologist for the Florida Poison Information Center in Miami.  For the past 12 years, Wendy has promoted the use of poison control and worked to prevent poisonings of all kinds, including from medication, household chemicals, and environmental hazards.  Wendy completed her PhD in Epidemiology and her Master of Public Health degree at the University of Miami and has previously chaired the Public Education Committee of the American Association of Poison Control Centers.  

    Website, e-mail, and social media links

    • Website(s): www.floridapoisoncontrol.org

    • Email: wstephan@med.miami.edu

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-stephan-phd-mph-315b70178/

    • Twitter: @floridapoison


    Mentioned in the episode

    Highlights 

    The Florida Poison Information Center in Miami partners with two other centers to serve the state of FL:  Jacksonville and Tampa.  The Miami location serves South Florida.  The Jacksonville location also serves the US Virgin Islands.  

    There are 55 poison control centers in the US.  Every state and territory has access to one.  Calls are geographically routed to a call center.  One poison center may serve multiple states.

    Contact your local poison center for prevention education.

    As a poisoning prevention advocate and educator, Dr. Wendy Stephan shares important messages through storytelling.  People in crisis have stories, which connect with people better than cold facts.  We are programmed as humans to learn through stories.

    She teaches pharmacy students.  Students enjoy interacting with the community.

    March is Poison Prevention Month.  The 3rd week of March each year is Poison Prevention Week.  

    The poison help line number is 1-800-222-1222.  Program it in your phone.

    Sometimes, law enforcement needs pills identified.  The poison help line is a great resource for pill identification because calls are recorded and can be used later (by subpoena) if needed.

    Teaching kids “asking behavior” is important.  “Mom and Dad, what about poison control?”

    Wendy’s work impacts all ages.  According to Wendy, working with caregivers and teachers is more helpful than working with toddlers because it touches more lives and avoids toddlers misinterpreting messages [about poisons].   

    Older adults and DD caregivers need Poison Control too.  For example, older individuals with poor vision who may be reading bottles in low light and have multiple medications are at risk for medication errors. 

    Organizations like Elder Affairs or an Area Office on Aging is a great place for pharmacists and pharmacy students to volunteer to speak about poison prevention.  Be careful:  don’t lecture, don’t stigmatize.  They know they’re taking a lot of medications.  

    Wendy realized she had a passion for poisoning prevention at the age of 6, when she saw a “Mr. Yuck sticker.”  As an adult, she started in poison prevention while working as an educator with Lora Fleming, a Marine Scientist. 

    Working at the FL poison center is like the Super Bowl for an epidemiologist.  It’s a once-in-a lifetime experience to be working in the field.  

    The COVID pandemic has affected injury epidemiology in FL:

    • Hand sanitizer exposures (eyes, mouth) have increased compared to this time last year.
    • Disinfectant exposures have increased.
    • Bleach exposures have increased.
    • [As a class,] household cleaning product exposures have increased.
    • FL Poison Information Centers have helped the FL Dept of Health with their COVID-19 hotline.  Training and resources were provided quickly.  There have been >50,000 calls to the FL COVID-19 hotline so far.
    • FL Poison Information Centers have seen an increase in calls about supplements and vitamins.  Ex:  vitamin C, vitamins in general, dietary supplements, and homeopathic remedies

    Pharmacists need to be aware that people are self-treating with OTC’s.  While patients are at the counter for counseling, ask if they’re taking anything or “mega dosing.”  Supplements can interfere with medications.  

    Who are Dr. Wendy Stephan’s coworkers?  Doctors, nurses, and pharmacists who are certified specialists in poison information (abbreviated C-SPI or SPI).  Her staff are 100% physicians in Miami.

    Wendy provides support to her coworkers and trains safety educators in the community.  Ex:  healthy start program home visitors who work with parents.  Ex:  foster parents and medical foster parents.  By reaching home visitors (people who work with parents), she reaches more parents.  It’s efficient.

    Works with other poison educators and colleagues around the state to design materials:  fliers, social media messages, etc.  Content relevant to the news gets good engagement.  It’s hard to get attention when you’re competing with other content.

    Two things that Florida has that Ohio does not have are snakes and aquatic toxins.  People fear snakes, but there are only ~6 bites per month from venomous snakes in FL.  Images of captured snakes in a bucket are something the FL Poison Information Center sees often.  Sometimes the Emergency Dept calls the Poison Information Center for support.

    Ciguatera Fish Poisoning happens in Florida.  This marine toxin can even reach Ohio when fish are transported.  Jelly Fish stings from the Portuguese man o’ war and the Box Jelly Fish are common too.  Marine toxins change over time, and some toxins can cause someone go into shock.

    Who do I call?  9-1-1 or Poison Control?

    Call 9-1-1 if someone is unconscious, having trouble breathing, having chest pain, there lots of bleeding, or there has been an intentional poisoning.  EMT’s will call the poison information center when needed.  

    Most 1-800-222-1222 poisoning calls usually present as 

    1. Someone swallowed something unusual
    2. Someone made a medication mistake.  At first, they seem fine, and there is no drama.  Even when symptoms are not immediate and dramatic, call for help!  Poison Control can walk people through symptoms that may develop.  Then, Poison Control makes follow-up telephone calls.  Ex:  toothpaste + milk = vomit that looks like cottage cheese, and that’s a good thing.

    Iron poisonings are serious and deadly because of multi-organ involvement.  Iron tablets can be attractive to children and may look like candy. 

    According to Wendy, child-resistant packaging slows a child down ~ 30 seconds.  Child-resistant packages do not guarantee safety.  Lock boxes help prevent medication-related poisonings in all ages.  Make it a habit to hide medications in a lock box.  20% of poisoning deaths are intentional due to depression or a moment of panic.  Lock boxes could slow someone down long enough for the self-harm impulse to pass.

    Prevention is for all ages.  Best practices:

    • Don’t stockpile medications.  (Ex:  Hurricanes and emergency preparedness)
    • Medications that are older and expired may cause confusion about who they’re for, or why they’re on-hand.  If you have forgotten it’s even in the home, it’s time to get rid of it.
    • Drug disposal is important.  Use drug disposal programs and do routine “sweeps” and get rid of anything you don’t need.  Don’t accumulate dangerous and unnecessary meds in the home. 
    • Some drugs are like time bombs in the home.  Ex:  Hydrocodone and teens or someone depressed due to loss of job.  Get rid of it!  It’s dangerous to keep around. 
    • DEA Take Back Days are an option twice/year.
    • Some communities pair drug take-back with “shred days” to prevent poisonings and identity theft as a 2-for-1 service.

    The National Poison Data System provides nearly real-time poison center data.  This information is reported to the Health Dept and the CDC.  

    • Contaminated products
    • Street drugs
    • Confusing packaging on consumer products. 

    Placing a case report helps the poison center identify problems and respond or get the attention of someone who can respond/initiate a public health response.  Ex:  e-cigarettes.

    Is it better to call Poison Control or use a poison information website?  Poison information websites are available, but calls are better because diagnostic information can be collected by phone.  Ex:  slurred speech (impairment is present).  Ex:  hearing someone cough after a baby powder exposure.  If someone is hearing impaired, the websites can be a helpful alternative.

    A typical week for Wendy involves a mix of office and community work.  Building relationships is important.  She likes the variety and challenge.

    Wendy uses a visual aid with high school students, emergency room doctors, and others called the “Cookie Jar of Doom.”  It contains pictures or items to represent the 12 most deadly poisons in Florida.  It leads to great discussions.  Examples include:

    • Carbon Monoxide
    • Prescription drugs:  oxycodone, hydrocodone, methadone
    • Illicit drugs/street drugs:  cocaine and heroin
    • Benzodiazepines 
    • No snakes, no spiders.  Nothing is alive in the jar. 

    The source of the items is data from the Injury Prevention Program at the FL Dept of Health on substances leading to deaths.  For more information, see the “poisoning data” tab on the Florida Poison Information Center website.

    Stories, games, and interacting with things physically are universally fun for everyone, and variety is good.

    What is the scariest poison?  Alcohol.

    • Alcohol changes behavior and judgement, unlike many other poisons.
    • Very serious cause of injury death
    • Alcohol poisoning can result.
    • Alcohol can lead to car crashes.
    • Alcohol can lead to a fatal interaction with a weapon.
    • Alcohol can lead to self harm.
    • It’s the most stealth poison.
    • Alcohol has been partly responsibility for 25% of deaths one year in FL.  It flies under the radar.  Children can’t metabolize alcohol, so they can easily become injured.  

    How (in general) can someone prevent a poisoning?

    • Awareness of different poison hazards in the home.
    • Prevent medication mistakes
    • Prevent product exposures
    • Look at the labels
    • Store medications up and away above shoulder height in a cabinet with a closed door.  
    • Drawers and shelves are not good places to store medication and household products.  
    • Know what to do if something happens.  Call Poison Control.  Have the number handy.  Don’t “wait and see” when there has been a medication error.  Call right away.
    • Knowing about “pretty poisons” and look-alike items is helpful.

    What does Dr. Wendy Stephan love most about working for the FL poison information center?  Great colleagues in FL and across all poison information centers and being in the community.

    What is a challenge she faces?  Getting the word out about their center and getting people’s attention.  People think, “it won’t happen to me.”  

    Calls to Poison Control are confidential.  There is HIPPA protection.  Poison Control fields plenty of calls from individuals suffering from mental illness.  Poison control centers don’t judge.  They don’t call child protective services either.  Some communities are fearful of children being removed from the home (suspected abuse).  

    Epidemiologists use data to understand the big picture.  Epidemiology drives effective interventions.  Injury data is important.  Talking about medication safety and alcohol will save lives.  Local, state, and national data drives effective interventions and actions public health epidemiologists make.  

    How can pharmacists help?  Be that trust professional who can educate people, share expertise, etc. because you have relationships with patients and key members of the community.  

     

     

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