political disillusionment

Complete our listener survey for a chance to win an OGWN t-shirt: https://www.patreon.com/posts/92531764 Imagine waiting 73 years to become King and then you get dog-end policies from the bottom of a dying government’s drawer for your first speech to Parliament. We look at what’s in Rishi’s Big Plans – cigs! pedicabs! – and what’s conspicuous by its absence. Plus, does it matter whether Starmer is “statesmanlike” on Gaza or not? And Dorian sets up the Institution for Neutral Thinking.  Dr Robert Saunders AKA @redhistorian, author of Yes to Europe! The 1975 Referendum and Seventies Britain, is this week’s special guest.  Listen to our brand new science podcast WHY? – taking you on adventures to the edge of knowledge – at whypodcast.co.uk  • “This government giving you its longterm plans is like a mayfly telling you its plans for next week.” – Matt Green • “What the COVID inquiry has shown is that Sunak absolutely wasn’t led by the science. He was led by the economics.” – Hannah Fearn • “A lot of Trump quotes from the trial make a lot more sense if you imagine they’re coming from a five year-old.” – Matt Green https://www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey with Matt Green and Hannah Fearn. Audio producer: Alex Rees. Theme music by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yascha Mounk is a Lecturer on Government at Harvard University, a Fellow in the Political Reform Program at New America, and host of the podcast, The Good Fight. He’s also the author of some of the scariest political science research I’ve seen in a long time.What Mounk found is that the consensus we thought existed on behalf of democracy and democratic norms is weakening. The percentage of Americans who think it’s important to live in a democracy has been plummeting in recent decades. The percentage of Americans who say they would support a military coup is worrying high. This is the context in which Donald Trump — a politician with clearly illiberal instincts — won the presidency. And this may help explain why he won the presidency: the political consensus elites thought he violated may not actually be a consensus anymore. The good news, which Mounk and I talk about in this podcast, is that Trump may have authoritarian instincts, but he doesn’t appear to have plans, and he definitely doesn’t appear to have the discipline to stick to his plans. We also discuss Trump’s bizarre first few months in office, as well as the challenges democracies face across the western world, and whether diverse societies make pluralist liberal democracies harder to sustain. Mounk is scary smart, he’s got an international perspective most commentators on American politics lack, and his story about becoming an American citizen after growing up Jewish in Germany is worth the price of admission on its own (that would be true even if this podcast wasn’t free). Enjoy!Books:“The Subjection of Women," by John Stuart Mill"A House for Mr. Biswas," by V. S. Naipaul“The Leopard," by Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices