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    Explore "runtime" with insightful episodes like "What is Bun? The New JS Runtime" and "The Deno Show" from podcasts like ""Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats" and "Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats"" and more!

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    What is Bun? The New JS Runtime

    What is Bun? The New JS Runtime

    In this Hasty Treat, Scott and Wes talk about Bun, a new all-in-one JavaScript runtime. What makes Bun so fast? What’s on Bun’s roadmap? And why do we need another JavaScript runtime?

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    The Deno Show

    The Deno Show

    In this episode of Syntax, Scott and Wes bring you the long-awaited Deno show — what it is, what it replaces, how you can use it, and more!

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    Show Notes

    02:13 - What is it?

    • A secure runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript
    • Built by Ryan Dhal — same guy who initially built Node.js
    • API is JS or TS out of the box

    04:55 - Does it replace / what is it in relation to?

    • Node
      • It’s a replacement for Node.js
    • Express
      • Web Server Frameworks like Express will run on Deno, but Express itself won’t currently run because they are build on Node APIs
      • https://github.com/oakserver/oak
    • Serverless
    • React / Vue / Svelte
      • These things are just JavaScript, so they should/will work in Deno. Deno will replace your tooling. More involved things like Next.js that require Node APIs won’t work until.
      • https://alephjs.org/
    • SSR
      • It comes with all browser APIs out of the box!
    • Fetch
      • Window + Add Event listener
    • Webpack / Parcel / Snowpack
      • Deno is a bundler
    • Prettier
      • Deno is a formatter
    • TSC
      • Deno is a TypeScript compiler and runtime
    • ESLint
      • Deno is a linter
    • Jest
      • Deno is a Test Runner
    • NPM
      • Deno is a package manager - it pulls in packages from URLs

    14:51 - Modules

    • ES modules from the start
    • Modules are loaded from URLs
    • Why? No package registry to worry about
    • This is how the browser works
    • Import from URL
    • You can also specify it in the json file
    • https://github.com/oakserver/oak/blob/main/deps.ts
    • https://deno.land/
    • Fetch is built in!
      • It’s a browser API, but who cares?!
    • Browser APIs
      • window.add event Listener
      • Deno is event based, like the browser

    20:10 - A nice standard library

    22:14 - WASM

    • Deno can run WASM with the same APIs that the browsers can
    • Node is doing this too (experimental)

    25:06 - Multi-threading with Web Workers

    26:13 - Speed

    29:44 - Security

    33:39 - Run from anywhere

    37:43 - Async out of the box

    • Everything is based on async + await / promises right away. No callback APIs, no promise wrapping.
    • Top level await

    38:53 - Node Compatibility

    • Node APIs are being filled
    • This means if a browser package ships an ES module of a package, we can just import it

    42:21 - What we’ve built

    46:54 - Hosting

    48:29 - Final thoughts

    • Scott: Now is a great time to learn, but don’t put any crucial work into that space unless you are ready to write everything. Libraries are still being written and evolved. Docs are still sparse. Many things didn’t work on first try. I had to read lots of source.
    • Wes: If You know JS or TS, you are already 90% there.
      • The package ecosystem isn’t there yet
      • Battle-tested

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