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Explore " the fall" with insightful episodes like "Day 59: Summary of The Fall (2024)", "Day 2: The Fall of Adam and Eve (2024)", "Evil Confronted, Part 1", "Dr. Max Botner's extended personal interview of Bruce C. E. Fleming" and "Think Again Thursday. Genesis 3 - The Attack in Eden" from podcasts like ""The Catechism in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz)", "The Bible in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz)", "Exodus", "The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming" and "The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming"" and more!
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Day 2: The Fall of Adam and Eve (2024)
Evil Confronted, Part 1
Sermon 80 in Series
Exodus 32:15-24
[15] Then Moses turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets that were written on both sides; on the front and on the back they were written. [16] The tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets. [17] When Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said to Moses, “There is a noise of war in the camp.” [18] But he said, “It is not the sound of shouting for victory, or the sound of the cry of defeat, but the sound of singing that I hear.” [19] And as soon as he came near the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, Moses’ anger burned hot, and he threw the tablets out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain. [20] He took the calf that they had made and burned it with fire and ground it to powder and scattered it on the water and made the people of Israel drink it.
[21] And Moses said to Aaron, “What did this people do to you that you have brought such a great sin upon them?” [22] And Aaron said, “Let not the anger of my lord burn hot. You know the people, that they are set on evil. [23] For they said to me, ‘Make us gods who shall go before us. As for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.’ [24] So I said to them, ‘Let any who have gold take it off.’ So they gave it to me, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf.”
DEEP SHEET: Sermon Study Questions
1. How is the golden calf story rich in doctrine? What are some theological points that stand out to you?
2. How does Moses’ intercession show the relationship between prayer and knowledge? How is “knowledge” sometimes denigrated by Christians?
3. Why is the breaking of the tablets meant to shock the reader? What does it symbolize, and how can it be misinterpreted?
4. Why does Moses make the people drink the pulverized idol? What does this teach us about sin in general and idolatry in particular?
5. How do Moses and Aaron see Aaron’s sin differently? How does this point back to the Fall?
6. In what ways have you been tempted to dodge/deflect/defend rather than own and confront your sin? How can we help one another fight this battle within the church?
References: Exodus 24:12; Deuteronomy 9:21; Numbers 5:11-31; Genesis 20:9; 3:12; Deuteronomy 9:20; Romans 8:3.
Dr. Max Botner's extended personal interview of Bruce C. E. Fleming
"I prayed to receive Christ when I was 11 years old because nobody had explained how before then," Bruce recalls. When I read the Revised Standard Version of the Bible they gave me I didn't question it. After all, the cover said "Holy Bible."
I still don't question what God communicated to us but I have come to understand come to understand there are mis-translation and mis-interpretation issues in Genesis 3:16 and in the related passages on women and men. As the result of the extensive research of my wife, Joy Fleming, PhD, PsyD, and of my own doctoral level studies we have come to understand that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.
This why we have co-founded the Tru316 Foundation which is the home of The Eden Podcast, to "true" the verse of Genesis 3:16 and to spread the POSITIVE message of Eden! (www.Tru316.com)
The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner
Think Again Thursday. Genesis 3 - The Attack in Eden
Was the one human led astray by his lies? Was the other led astray by his rebellious example? How did God interact with each one? What did the man leave out in his reply to God? What did the woman reveal? There is much more to Genesis 3 than you may have seen before! This is another chapter in The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming read to you by the author.
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The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.
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The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner
The Priests & Their Garments, Part 2
Sermon 72 in Series
Exodus 28:31-43
[31] “You shall make the robe of the ephod all of blue. [32] It shall have an opening for the head in the middle of it, with a woven binding around the opening, like the opening in a garment, so that it may not tear. [33] On its hem you shall make pomegranates of blue and purple and scarlet yarns, around its hem, with bells of gold between them, [34] a golden bell and a pomegranate, a golden bell and a pomegranate, around the hem of the robe. [35] And it shall be on Aaron when he ministers, and its sound shall be heard when he goes into the Holy Place before the LORD, and when he comes out, so that he does not die.
[36] “You shall make a plate of pure gold and engrave on it, like the engraving of a signet, ‘Holy to the LORD.’ [37] And you shall fasten it on the turban by a cord of blue. It shall be on the front of the turban. [38] It shall be on Aaron’s forehead, and Aaron shall bear any guilt from the holy things that the people of Israel consecrate as their holy gifts. It shall regularly be on his forehead, that they may be accepted before the LORD.
[39] “You shall weave the coat in checker work of fine linen, and you shall make a turban of fine linen, and you shall make a sash embroidered with needlework.
[40] “For Aaron’s sons you shall make coats and sashes and caps. You shall make them for glory and beauty. [41] And you shall put them on Aaron your brother, and on his sons with him, and shall anoint them and ordain them and consecrate them, that they may serve me as priests. [42] You shall make for them linen undergarments to cover their naked flesh. They shall reach from the hips to the thighs; [43] and they shall be on Aaron and on his sons when they go into the tent of meeting or when they come near the altar to minister in the Holy Place, lest they bear guilt and die. This shall be a statute forever for him and for his offspring after him.
DEEP SHEET: Sermon Study Questions
1. How do the stones on the ephod and breastpiece convey the preciousness of God’s people? What impact should this have on our interactions with one another?
2. How does the emphasis on death highlight the seriousness of worshiping God rightly? What implications does this have for us who are now in the New Covenant?
3. What spiritual realities were symbolized by the pomegranates and bells on the high priest’s robe?
4. Why was nakedness/exposure such a big deal for the priests? How did this distinguish Israel from other nations?
5. What was the significance of the engraved plate on the high priest’s turban? How does it heighten our appreciation of Christ?
6. How was the high priest’s clothing different from the other priests? How did this distinction anticipate Christ as the one and only Mediator?
References: Acts 20:28; John 19:23; Deuteronomy 8:7-8; Song of Solomon 6:7; Genesis 2:17; Exodus 19:12; 20:26; 1 Corinthians 11:28-30; Exodus 19:6; Romans 8:33-34; 1 Timothy 2:5-6.
Genesis 2:4-3:24 (Bible Overview)
Welcome to our brand new series looking at an overview of the whole Bible story. Throughout the year we will be tracing through the story, looking at key passages and seeing how it all fits together into one narrative.
This week we continue the creation narrative in chapter 2, followed by the fall in chapter 3. We'll be seeing how everything went wrong and why the world is the way that it is today.
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Outside the Tent
Sermon 70 in Series
Exodus 27:1-19
[1] “You shall make the altar of acacia wood, five cubits long and five cubits broad. The altar shall be square, and its height shall be three cubits. [2] And you shall make horns for it on its four corners; its horns shall be of one piece with it, and you shall overlay it with bronze. [3] You shall make pots for it to receive its ashes, and shovels and basins and forks and fire pans. You shall make all its utensils of bronze. [4] You shall also make for it a grating, a network of bronze, and on the net you shall make four bronze rings at its four corners. [5] And you shall set it under the ledge of the altar so that the net extends halfway down the altar. [6] And you shall make poles for the altar, poles of acacia wood, and overlay them with bronze. [7] And the poles shall be put through the rings, so that the poles are on the two sides of the altar when it is carried. [8] You shall make it hollow, with boards. As it has been shown you on the mountain, so shall it be made.
[9] “You shall make the court of the tabernacle. On the south side the court shall have hangings of fine twined linen a hundred cubits long for one side. [10] Its twenty pillars and their twenty bases shall be of bronze, but the hooks of the pillars and their fillets shall be of silver. [11] And likewise for its length on the north side there shall be hangings a hundred cubits long, its pillars twenty and their bases twenty, of bronze, but the hooks of the pillars and their fillets shall be of silver. [12] And for the breadth of the court on the west side there shall be hangings for fifty cubits, with ten pillars and ten bases. [13] The breadth of the court on the front to the east shall be fifty cubits. [14] The hangings for the one side of the gate shall be fifteen cubits, with their three pillars and three bases. [15] On the other side the hangings shall be fifteen cubits, with their three pillars and three bases. [16] For the gate of the court there shall be a screen twenty cubits long, of blue and purple and scarlet yarns and fine twined linen, embroidered with needlework. It shall have four pillars and with them four bases. [17] All the pillars around the court shall be filleted with silver. Their hooks shall be of silver, and their bases of bronze. [18] The length of the court shall be a hundred cubits, the breadth fifty, and the height five cubits, with hangings of fine twined linen and bases of bronze. [19] All the utensils of the tabernacle for every use, and all its pegs and all the pegs of the court, shall be of bronze.
DEEP SHEET: Sermon Study Questions
1. How has God used our time in Exodus to grow your theology? What themes have stood out the most?
2. How has the tabernacle deepened your understanding of the Bible as a whole? In general, how has it enriched your view of Christ’s person and work?
3. What are some of the pronounced features of the altar? What do the altar and its placement communicate about sin, reconciliation, and worship?
4. How did the linen hangings of the court both show and shield what was behind them? What does this say about the function of the tabernacle?
5. How would the entrance into the court have prepared the Israelite worshipper? How does this singular entrance point to Christ?
References: Hebrews 9:6-7; Matthew 27:50-51; Psalm 118:27; 89:17; 1 Kings 1:51; Exodus 29:11-12; 30:28; Genesis 2:17; Romans 6:23; Hebrews 9:22; 10:11-14; John 1:29; Exodus 19:12-13; John 14:6.
Los Fall Bros!
While Brandon is out for the week, Carlos and Daniel discuss their favorite season, Autumn. Even though the leaves are still attached to the trees and not falling, we pretty much couldn't wait. Come on, name a better season. We’ll wait.
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EP #182 - Re-framing The Fall - Interview with Dr. Matt Pandel
Bracketology - Albums of 1985
No new episode this week while Dylan is in the desert and Justin is working overtime. Instead we are going to share a preview of what is behind our Patreon paywall. We have a series of bonus audio called Bracketology where we pit albums from the same year against each other. This was our first attempt at Bracketology without a guest, but if you enjoyed it we have more on our Patreon.
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Genesis 3:16 Deep Dive Part 3!
In her dissertation, Joy Fleming writes the following, "Instead of ruling over his assigned domain (the animals) with his companion and counterpart in a legitimate rulership, [the man] subsumes her into a new domain that he alone will govern!"
Get the full dissertation with Hebrew outlines HERE
To learn more visit The Tru316 Foundation website here: Tru316.com
The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner
Why Will Sin Never Happen Again?
If Lucifer had free choice in heaven, and in a perfect world, he chose to reject an eternal loving relationship with His Creator, then why wouldn’t someone, somewhere else in the universe in the future, perhaps ten or even a million years into the future decide to do the same thing?
So, if the Bible says, “Affliction will not rise up a second time” (Nahum 1:9), is that because God won’t ever allow anyone to make that choice to reject Him?
Purpose & Promise 4 - Genesis: Chapter 3&4
It starts getting intense in Genesis 3 & 4 - sin enters the picture... And brings with it all sorts of complications. What are they? And what impact do they have on us today? Are Adam & Eve even the parents of all humanity? Even the answer to that question raises myriad other questions! Join Jo, Alex & Chris as they unpack this momentous section of scripture in a mammoth-sized episode!
Resources/Links mentioned in this episode, or as references or helpful for Bible Streams:
- Book: Genesis (NIVAC) - by John Walton
- Book: The Lost World of Genesis One - by John Walton
- Book: The Lost World of Adam and Eve - by John Walton
- Book: Genesis (NICOT) - by Victor P. Hamilton
- Book: Genesis (Tyndale) - by Andrew E. Steinman
- Book: The Composition of the Pentateuch: Renewing the Documentary Hypothesis - By Joel S. Baden
- Book: The Documentary Hypothesis and the Composition of the Pentateuch - by Umberto Cassuto
- Book: Genesis: A Commentary - by Bruce K. Waltke
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What Is Sin?
What is sin? And how does God really feel about it? Once we understand these truths, we'll realize that God as defined in His word, isn't who people usually run away from. In week two, Chase Gardner shares biblical truths about 3 hard realities of a sinful and broken world.
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BTR 086: The Fall
Our best laid plans were derailed this week and we departed from our planned topic (sacrifice) to talk about the fall. Jon and Tyson have an interesting disagreement about Eve in the garden. A very good discussion about all aspects of the fall ensues and we have a very fun episode. Hope you enjoy!
Joy Book. Part 6. Tru316.com
Many people think Eve was struck by God with severe punishments. Dr. Joy Fleming reveals that is not what the 11 Hebrew words say in Genesis 3:16. In her dissertation she points out the good news / bad news pattern present in Gods' words to the woman and man. This reflects the good / bad result from eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
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The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner
Letters From Heaven (Revelation) No.41- A Day of Mourning
Joy Book. Part 4. Tru316.com
God noticed parallels in the rebellious acts of the serpent-tempter and the man. Strikingly the text of Genesis 3 is written out in 6 parallel points as God addresses each one of them. The way the passage is written reinforces the meaning of what is told us in these verses.
The woman did not share in any of these 6 parallels yet many people lump her in with the other two. This is sloppy exegesis.
This section of Dr. Joy Fleming's book, Man and Woman in Biblical Unity, Theology from Genesis 2-3, reveals truths in the text that have been buried by generations of bad theology. You may want to relisten to this episode.
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The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner
Joy Book. Part 3. Tru316.com
It was all "very good" until the rebellious angel launched his attack at the Tree. Each human responded differently. But the main punishment applied to them both. "In the day you eat from it you will die."
Some claim the woman was really The Temptress. They treat pagan ideas like Pandora and the box as the true truth of the Garden of Eden when the opposite is true.
Read the important details in Dr. Joy Fleming's book, Man and Woman in Biblical Unity, Theology from Genesis 2-3.
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The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner