beth moore

Genesis 3:16 had been mistranslated. Many harmful misconceptions had arisen. Many harmful practices had been propagated.

In her research Joy opens up the 7-point chiasm in Genesis 2-3 and especially the patterns related to Genesis 3:16. It turns out that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.

You can discover these insights and more in her books available from Tru316.com/trubooks

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Witnessing wives and husbands. The passage of 1 Peter 3:1-7 is about those Christians who are married to unbelieving spouses. They are unequally yoked. They are praying for their partner to come to Christ. Peter gives sensible advice how to please God and how to win their spouse.

Is this passage about hierarchical marriages with wives submitting to their lordly husbands? Are all wives somehow the "weaker vessel"? NOT AT ALL! The weaker spouse does not yet know Christ and needs to be won to Him.

Go Deeper! Enroll in our Tru School Workshops. Become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation and get FREE tuition for all four Workshops! Join here: Tru316.com/partner 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

[We're featuring this replay episode from our archives.] What happens when people teach something the Bible doesn't say? When we try to apply principles that do NOT line up with the inspired Hebrew and Greek words of the Bible what problems arise?

How can we learn what God said to the woman in the Garden of Eden? Take THE EDEN COURSE! In eight great lessons walk through Genesis 2-3. You'll encounter key lessons you already know. And you'll make new discoveries too! Go to www.TheEdenCourse.com or click this LINK

Want to help spread the Word? Become a monthly Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation! Learn more here: Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

• When you study 1 Timothy do you take into account Paul's Three Sins? 
• Do you keep in mind the reason Paul left Timothy behind in Ephesus? 
• Have you noticed how God judges people differently based on whether they are first degree or second degree sinners?

 Focusing on these key items unlocks the tangled web of competing and confusing interpretations of 1 Timothy! 

Women and men who were wayward leaders are identified and corrected by Paul in 1 Timothy 1-3. Jesus, the faithful Word, could restore these former church pastors, Paul says! 

But many people are teaching that women should NEVER be pastors. Are they right? No, they have misread the passage! 

Go deeper? Get a copy of Back to Eden, 1 Timothy 2:8-3:16 by Bruce C. E. Fleming.  

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Ephesians 5:15 - Notice the main idea and the explanation that follows it immediately.

The best definition on walking in the Spirit is in these verses

Want to get clarity? Join us for the next Tru School Workshop. Take the Beyond Eden Workshop on Ephesians 5:15-6:9 by clicking on Tru316.com/workshop

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In her dissertation, Joy Fleming writes the following, "Instead of ruling over his assigned domain (the animals) with his companion and counterpart in a legitimate rulership, [the man] subsumes her into a new domain that he alone will govern!"

Get the full dissertation with Hebrew outlines HERE

To learn more visit The Tru316 Foundation website here: Tru316.com

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

We take seriously the challenge to dive deeply into Genesis 3:16 and the surrounding verses.

It will be very helpful to see the slides used in this presentation. Simply go to our YouTube Channel, @Tru316 and select the video entitled: 6. Genesis 3:16: Deep Dive. This episode is taken from the first 20 minutes of that video. 

The statements about what is the "tru" meaning of Genesis 3:16 are not made as mere opinions. They are based on this prayerful and careful literary analysis by Joy Fleming, PhD, PsyD (https://tru316.com/about-us).

Enjoy this taste of the dissertation! You may purchase and peruse the entire dissertation. Make sure to focus on chapters 3 and 4. You may purchase it here: https://tru316.com/shop 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Go deeper. For much more, get a copy of The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming (Kindle eBook, Paperback or audio book on Audible!)

Join the movement to "true" the verse! Become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation. Click Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Eve's curse? No. Adam's curse? Again, No. God cursed only the serpent tempter and the ground. God didn't curse Eve or Adam or limit woman in any way. But God DID curse the ground because of the man! Why the harsher sentence for the man?

Prefer reading to listening? Order The Book of Eden on Genesis 2-3, available as an eBook on Kindle, as a paperback, or as an audiobook on Audible. Here's a link Or use this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0972575928/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_WA51B0RBA3PWVV5TAG0S 

Ready to support this ministry as a Tru Partner? To learn how and to learn about Partner benefits click here: https://tru316.com/partner 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Curtis Chang, who is on the faculty at Duke Divinity School and co-hosts a podcast with David French, joins to talk about his new book: The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry is the Doorway to Your Best Self. He shares his deeply personal story of debilitating anxiety and how he discovered an alternative approach to overcoming it—one that sees anxiety as the path to our best selves in Christ. Later, an interview with Amy Boucher Pye on her work Transforming Love: How Friendship with Jesus Changes Us, which zeroes in on friendship with Jesus--as exemplified by Mary, Marth and Lazarus.

In addition, we chat on concerning and encouraging statistics out of the Southern Baptist denomination, and Beth Moore's recent comments that the leaders of America are virtually amoral.

Follow The Common Good on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram

Hosted by Aubrey Sampson and Brian From

Produced by Laura Finch and Keith Conrad

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Are you tired of the additions, contradictions and misinterpretations of God's words to the woman in Genesis 3:16? What is the simple summary of God's 11 Hebrew words? In this episode we refer to a graphic that has been worth more than a thousand words. Would you like me to send you a copy? Email your request to Bruce@Tru316.com!

Support getting the Word out. Become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation: https://tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Our online course is now available! Called "The Eden Course (Genesis 2-3)" it is presented by Jessica Nagy! Learn more at TheEdenCourse.com

To drive the ministry forward become a Tru Partner! Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

God didn't punish or restrict women in Eden or in the Church. But many people think that is just what God did. Before The Eden Podcast was launched, and The Eden Book Series was published, the Reverend Bruce C. E. Fleming, DEA, taught a major series of lessons you can now find on YouTube that are here being made available for you on Season 11 of The Eden Podcast. The so called "clobber passages" are each made clear in this series. 

• For feedback see Tru316.com/testimonials
• To support this teaching and make possible our interaction with those who do the translation work in Bible versions become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation here: Tru316.com/partner. 
• For the Tru316 Foundation YouTube Channel click here and subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@tru316

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Recorded LIVE at the Tru316 Foundation Launch Event in Minneapolis. What is the Tru316 Message? Learn the backstory in this Founder's Address by Dr. Joy Fleming. 

At the end of Dr. Joy Fleming's address we add two Tru Stories of the life changing impact of the work of the Tru316 Foundation.

Get involved? Click Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Launch of the Tru316 Foundation on March 16 will be available at 7:30 Central here: YouTube.com/@tru316

NIV Update Committee Member, Dr, Jeannine Brown will give the Keynote Address: "Why? Who? and How? An Inside Look at Bible Revision.”

Dr. Joy Fleming will present the reasons for the Tru316 ministry, to "true" the verse of Genesis 3:16 and the related passages.

Join in the work. Become a Tru Partner. Let's spread the joyful message of the Garden of Eden! You can join at Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In this week's episode I talk about Saddleback Church's exit from the Southern Baptist Convention over the ordination of women. This even gets at a deeper issue. I discus the doctrine of complementarianism, the divide between men and women that needs healing and give some advice on how to bring change to your faith community.
 
Here are a few resources that I used in this episode:

Listen to Rick Warren’s speech here: https://youtu.be/MBsT1zFmC3E
A previous blog post on Complementarianism:  https://www.relevantfaithjourney.com/post/brighter-together-does-equal-mean-equal
The Baptist Faith & Message 2000 Section on Family:   https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/#xi
I do not address the scriptural basis for equality beliefs here, but here is a previous post that is relevant to the topic:  https://www.relevantfaithjourney.com/post/brighter-together-the-intersection-of-scripture-and-gender-roles
This is also great TikTok about women preachers and the Bible: https://www.tiktok.com/@pastorparrott/video/7202680079216839978
Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood Mission Statement, quoted in this episode:  https://cbmw.org/about/mission-vision/
Here’s the URL for the excerpt from Beth Moore’ Memoire talking about her experience of being welcomed in an Anglican church. Christianity Today Article
You can find an extended report on Beth Moore’s exit from the SBC here: Religion News Article 
Beth Moore’s blog post from 2018: “A Letter to My Brothers.” You should read the whole thing. It’s good. https://blog.lproof.org/2018/05/a-letter-to-my-brothers.html 

I started from Genesis to understand the egaliltarian / complementarian issues and do my research. The insights of Dr. Joy and Rev. Bruce C. E. Fleming really made a difference.

Over in Genesis 3 there was talk about Eve and Adam being cursed but I wanted more research scholars. I came across the work of Dr. Joy Fleming and it really made a big difference in how we interpret the text. It changed how we see the relationship between men and women and much more.

Feedback was "Thank you SO much for clearing that up. It's nice to know that we're not cursed and that God is not down on women!"

Want to help get the word out to pastors and women and men like Pastor Mike's hearers? 

Join today as a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation.

Click here: Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Upon learning the Tru316 insights my response included relief, disbelief and amazement! As a result of what I learned of the Bible from Joy and Bruce I really felt free to use my gifts and desires to the full. (Sadly, up to that point she had been given to believe she couldn't use her gifts because she was a woman.)

I feel the Tru316 insights are really, really important for many reasons. Here are three:

1. My relationship with God.
2. The effectiveness of the church.
3. Our witness to the world.

Want to help get the word out to women and girls like Bev? Join today as a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation.

Click here: Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Many people think Eve was struck by God with severe punishments. Dr. Joy Fleming reveals that is not what the 11 Hebrew words say in Genesis 3:16. In her dissertation she points out the good news / bad news pattern present in Gods' words to the woman and man. This reflects the good / bad result from eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. 

Go Deeper? Join the Tru316 Foundation as a Tru Partner and get a discount on the Eden Workshops on all 7 of the key passages on women and men. Click here to become a Tru Partner: Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Here is Part 1 of our serialization of Dr. Joy Fleming's book Man and Woman in Biblical Unity, Theology from Genesis 2-3.

The human race was and is God's delight. This early part of Genesis tells of two human beings, each specially "handmade" by God. It speaks of how they related to their Creator's care and command. Because two people were created, societal interplay is observed between them. And because they were responsible for their own actions, the Creator deals with each one individually.

In Genesis we discover that both persons share equally in

• the image of God (Gn. 1:26-27);
• the charge to be fruitful and multiply (Gn. 1:28);
• the mandate to rule over the world God created (Gn. 1:26-31);
• the enjoyment of God's gracious bounty in the Garden (Gn. 2);
• and even in the name "Adam" (Gn. 5:2).

Neither person of either gender has greater intrinsic value than the other. They are partners in the grace of life. The text of Genesis 2 and 3 tells us of the Creator who graciously reaches out to the two sinners, and how the first couple experiences God's love as well as the consequence of sin.

Go Deeper? You can get the full audio book as a free download from our website. Simply click on the top bar when you go to Tru316.com.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner