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    Explore " wisdom literature" with insightful episodes like "What Song Are You Singing - Psalm 40", "Genesis 43 | The Father Gives the Son", "#105: Shared Values: Exploring the Common Ground of Abrahamic Religions", "#101: What the **Bleep** was I Thinking!?! Using Medieval Wisdom to Revolutionize Your Decision-Making in Three Simple Steps" and "#100: The American Dream Isn't Just Dead--It Was the Wrong Dream to Begin With" from podcasts like ""Weekly Wisdom with Jeff Schreve", "Saint Athanasius Podcast", "Intellectual Freedom Podcast", "Intellectual Freedom Podcast" and "Intellectual Freedom Podcast"" and more!

    Episodes (21)

    What Song Are You Singing - Psalm 40

    What Song Are You Singing - Psalm 40

    On Pray.com’s Weekly Wisdom, Pastor Jeff Schreve delves into the complexities of navigating life's most challenging moments. Unraveling the mysteries of despair, he provides insightful guidance for those who find themselves engulfed in the metaphorical abyss. The feeling of hopelessness can easily pervade our spirits when we are caught in life's darkest corners. Pastor Jeff offers transformative solutions, demonstrating how reliance on God can serve as the beacon of light needed to ascend from these daunting pits of despair.

    Welcome to Weekly Wisdom, an inspirational series hosted by Pastor Jeff Schreve. Each week, Pastor Jeff illuminates different sections of the Holy Bible, meticulously extracting pivotal themes and life lessons that can enrich and uplift your daily life. 

    This series invites you to delve deeper into understanding the scripture, offering a transformative platform for spiritual growth. As you navigate through this journey, you will be offered an opportunity to fortify your relationship with God, accompanied by Pastor Jeff's insightful guidance. 

    Join us weekly as we engage in heartfelt prayer and foster a stronger connection to God, under the expert guidance of Pastor Jeff Schreve. Experience a profound transformation as you embrace the wisdom of the Bible, distilled for you, each week.

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    #105: Shared Values: Exploring the Common Ground of Abrahamic Religions

    #105: Shared Values: Exploring the Common Ground of Abrahamic Religions

    The news headlines are admittedly ugly. War, hate, anger, and division, unfortunately, represent the interactions of Jews, Christians, and Muslims. But, if we deeply read the texts of these three great religions, there is deep wisdom to be uncovered. 

    For many, it may be shocking to see that the shared values and common ground of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are more numerous than the differences. At the heart of these Abrahamic religions lie powerful messages of compassion, love, and justice that can guide us toward a better tomorrow.

    By exploring these faiths' commonalities, we can discover a unifying message that transcends the boundaries of religion, race, and culture. Join us on a journey of discovery as we delve deep into the timeless teachings of these Abrahamic religions. This week we focus heavily on Islam and the "Final Prophet," Muhammad.

    In the end, you will discover that in a world of depression, anxiety, and loneliness, the Abrahamic positions, together, can serve as a force for good in our world today.

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    #101: What the **Bleep** was I Thinking!?! Using Medieval Wisdom to Revolutionize Your Decision-Making in Three Simple Steps

    #101: What the **Bleep** was I Thinking!?! Using Medieval Wisdom to Revolutionize Your Decision-Making in Three Simple Steps

    We have all been there—bad decisions. Making bad decisions triggers negative consequences, such as financial loss, relationship damage, or missed opportunities. As we go through life and accumulate lousy decision after lousy decision, the baggage we carry around gets heavy—embarrassment, regret, anxiety, loss of self-confidence, and even fear that can paralyze us from stepping out of our comfort zone emerge. 

    We really only have two choices. Make bad mistakes, curl up in a ball, and give up. Or, we can challenge ourselves to leave the past in the past and have the discipline and determination to tap into our minds and learn to make better decisions. I choose the latter, and I hope you do too. 

    This episode explores a three-step process to avoid bad decisions and hopefully make high-quality decisions. We will get through analyzing a medieval intellectual and theologian that lived a life of high drama, bitter confrontations, and more than his share of bad decisions. From these very difficult life experiences, he grew exponentially and became one of the most respected and influential figures of the medieval era. 

    His name is Peter Abelard, and his view on sin, thinking, individualism, and personal responsibility was centuries ahead of the traditional mindset of the time. As we always do, we will attempt to connect the dots from a set of wisdom literature and philosophy to the postmodern world we live in today. 

    I hope you will listen in and study as we explore Peter Abelard and how to make more effective decisions in life.

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    #100: The American Dream Isn't Just Dead--It Was the Wrong Dream to Begin With

    #100: The American Dream Isn't Just Dead--It Was the Wrong Dream to Begin With

    A recent YouGov survey found that only 30% of Americans overall believe in the American dream and see it as very or somewhat attainable for themselves. It is cliche now to say the American Dream is dead. You can read innumerable articles on the topic. 

    The surface reasons for the death of the American Dream are obvious, too—rocketing inflation, student loan debt, housing costs, medical costs, income inequality, and endless wars are apparent culprits. 

    But what if the American Dream wasn’t just an illusion that emerged in the 1930s, but rather the concept is even more sinister? What if the American Dream was designed to enslave, not elevate, and provide a lifetime of happiness? 

    Could it be that the American Dream, as conceived during the Industrial Revolution, was the wrong dream, to begin with? 

    In fact, it could be argued that the American Dream is a nightmare that everyone, ultimately, is guaranteed to fail.

    In many ways, this idea is like going to Las Vegas to gamble and expecting to get back on your plane for home with a healthy bag full of money. It rarely happens. 

    It is time to look at the American Dream differently. In this episode, we study the life and teaching of St. Augustine. We will connect the dots of his philosophy and theology from the 4th century CE to the American Dream. 

    In our wisdom literature of the week, we will review The Confessions and City of God and St. Augustine’s doctrine of why the materialistic strivings of humankind, such as the American Dream, are doomed to fail every time. 

    We all need to reimagine a new dream, a more concrete dream, that can lead us to a life of purpose and fulfillment.  St. Augustine will be our guide on this journey. 

    The reasons for our current discontent and disillusionment with life in our post-modern world will become apparent by looking back at the teaching of this great and influential teacher.

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    #99: Ignorance is NOT Bliss! Why Civilizations Degrade Towards Evil & Division.

    #99: Ignorance is NOT Bliss! Why Civilizations Degrade Towards Evil & Division.

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    Examples are everywhere—social media, political soundbites, and cable TV demonstrate that ignorance is trending globally. We have all seen it. It is scary to watch. 

    Politicians boast, “I’m not a scientist,” or that people are “sick of the so-called experts.” Rather than expertise, lack of experience is explained as a positive thing, better than any credential. Healthy skepticism is important—but denying basic facts of the obvious sort is dangerous and breeds extremism. 

    In this climate, misinformation or fake news is on the rise, and flagrant lies by those in positions of authority are accepted and spread without question by both sides of the ideological divide- these lies shape beliefs, foster mistrust, and breed anger among the population.

    The irony is that although we live in the information age, we do not appear well-informed at the minimum, or at worst, society is becoming downright ignorant. 

    For all the benefits the information age has given to society, it surely has some unintended negative consequences. But there is a solution to combatting society's rising tide of ignorance. 

    Ignorance is dangerous. When we lack knowledge or understanding but, with arrogance and bluster, claim to possess knowledge, bad things happen—division happens. Evil happens. 

    In this podcast, we look back to a great theologian, philosopher, medical doctor and writer for a clear answer to combat ignorance in any era. His wisdom transcends generations, and we should all consider his teachings. His name is Moses Maimonides

    Join me for a deep dive into his life, works, and practical knowledge we can all use to become more intelligent and wise in our lives. 

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    #98: How Protestant Prosperity Gospel Pastors are Killing Christianity

    #98: How Protestant Prosperity Gospel Pastors are Killing Christianity

    Just twenty-two percent of the youngest adults describe themselves as Protestant  –  a more than fifty percent decline from the 1950s and 60s.  A cataclysmic decline if things do not change.  

    Gen Z is the most likely generation yet to say they don’t believe in God. They are also the least religiously affiliated and the least likely to attend church.

    Meantime, their rates of depression and anxiety are soaring. The Centers for Disease Control recently published a report stating that “almost 60% of female students experienced persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness during the past year, and nearly 25% made a suicide plan.”

    This is a stunning collapse. Any way a Christian may slice it, the current theology and institution are not working. Period. 

    In this episode, we contrast maybe the most corrosive element of Christianity—prosperity gospel preachers against some very stoic and hardcore followers of Christian theology often referred to as the desert fathers and mothers. What a stark contrast and the disparity shines a bright light on the differences between a postmodern world of ease versus a life of pain, suffering, and ultimately one of deep fulfillment outside the umbrella of materialism. 

    In this podcast, we primarily focus on St. Anthony, an incredible individual who shunned all material and personal wealth and fame for a life in the deep, mystical desert, hoping to live out his best life as close to the teachings of Christ as possible. 

    Whether you are a Christian, Jew, or of any faith, the hard-fought lessons learned by the desert fathers and mothers illuminate shortcomings in our lives that we can work on to become a better version of ourselves.

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    #97: Beyond Christianity: How the teachings of Jesus Christ apply to everyone.

    #97: Beyond Christianity: How the teachings of Jesus Christ apply to everyone.

    There is no easy way to slice it; religion is a challenging topic. This week we take on one of the most influential spiritual leaders to ever walk the planet earth and, arguably, one of the most influential people in the history of the world. That person is Jesus Christ. 

    In this episode, we discuss the person, the history, and most importantly, the wisdom to live life to the fullest. If you think this is only for Christians, I would challenge you to listen to this episode and read from the selected texts below.  Push yourself outside of your comfort zone!  I will ask Christians to do the same thing when we study other atheistic philosophers and non-religious Christian figures. 

    Whether you are a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Theist, or even an Atheist, there is wisdom to be uncovered by reading through the teachings of Jesus Christ that apply to all people, in all eras, and all backgrounds. The goal today is to unpack and disentangle the theology from the universal wisdom that Jesus spoke about during his time on earth. 

    Ultimately, we will boil down the teachings of Jesus Christ to five core teachings that repeatedly recur in the Christian doctrines that transcend religiosity and provide a framework for living life to the fullest. 

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    #94: How practicing skepticism will make you a powerful thinker

    #94: How practicing skepticism will make you a powerful thinker

    One key characteristic of an independent mind is not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.” This podcast discusses skepticism and the practical application of this ancient philosophy in our modern lives to make us better thinkers. 

    We go all the way back to Pyrrho, Sextus Empiricus, and other ancient Greek philosophers to look at the emergence of skepticism from around 360 BCE to the 3rd century CE. 

    Skepticism often gets a bad rap. It is much more than some cooky denying anything, and everything exists. There is so much more to analyze. 

    Albert Einstein hit the nail on the head when he said, “blind belief in authority is the enemy of truth.” When properly applied in our daily lives, skepticism helps us to question and doubt superficial or ideological dogma. Also, practicing skepticism fosters humility, which seems in short supply across modern culture. 

    In our discussion today, we dive deep into the pros, cons, and, more importantly, how you, in your life, can use skepticism to think more clearly and effectively to make better decisions in life!

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    # 93: "But I just want to be happy..."

    # 93: "But I just want to be happy..."

    American happiness has reached an all-time low.  I doubt too many are surprised when a random google search on 'happiness in America' yields horrifying results. Right now, America is about as angry, anxiety-riddled, stressed-out, and drugged-up as at any time in our history.

    In this episode, we deep-dive into Aristotle's monumental work: Nichomachean Ethics.  Specifically, we will break down happiness. What it is and how to achieve it. You will walk away from this episode with incredible insights into living your best life.

    The great news is happiness is within the grasp of everyone. I hope you will come along on this journey as Aristotle can teach you how to find peace, fulfillment, and happiness in this crazy, messed-up world we live,

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    A Life Verse: Trust in the Lord...

    A Life Verse: Trust in the Lord...
    It's not uncommon to hear Christians talk about a "life verse." Among the most common has to be Proverbs 3:5-6. Pastor Adam spends a few moments taking us through these beautiful verses. Devotionables #374: Proverbs 3:5-6 Pursue Wisdom Proverbs: A Word to the Wise is SufficientDevotionables is a ministry of The Ninth & O Baptist Church in Louisville, KY.  naobc.org

    Wisdom Literature, Proverbs, and the Fear of the Lord - With Dr. Tremper Longman

    Wisdom Literature, Proverbs, and the Fear of the Lord - With Dr. Tremper Longman

    What is Biblical wisdom literature?  How does Proverbs fit into the wisdom literature and how does one apply it? What does the fear of the Lord mean and how can one cultivate a healthy fear of the Lord? We discussed these questions and more with Dr. Tremper Longman who has done extensive work in the Old Testament, specifically in wisdom literature.   


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    Wisdom for Life’s Complexity – Paradigm E8

    Wisdom for Life’s Complexity – Paradigm E8

    As followers of Jesus, how can we know we are making the “right” choice in situations the Bible doesn’t address? How can we know the difference between what’s good and bad? In this episode, Tim, Jon, and Carissa talk about the Bible’s purpose as wisdom literature designed to reveal God’s wisdom to humanity––even for complex circumstances it doesn’t explicitly address.

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    Timestamps 

    • Part one (0-13:20)
    • Part two (13:20-19:45)
    • Part three (19:45-31:00)
    • Part four (31:00-43:15)
    • Part five (43:15-55:20)
    • Part six (55:20-1:01:50)

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    • “Loving Someone You Lost” by The Field Tapes
    • “Vexento” by Yesterday on Repeat
    • “Everything Fades to Blue” by Sleepy Fish

    Show produced by Cooper Peltz. Edited by Dan Gummel and Zach McKinley. Show notes by Lindsey Ponder. 

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    Harry Reeder on Ecclesiastes

    Harry Reeder on Ecclesiastes

    The book of Ecclesiastes raises so many questions. Who is Qoheleth? Who wrote the book? Is life really meaningless? Are we supposed to just eat, drink and be merry?

    After putting it off for forty years as many fine preachers and teachers have done before him, Harry Reeder, senior pastor of Briarwood Presbyterian Church in Birmingham, Alabama, finally preached through Ecclesiastes. In our conversation, we talked about the things that make the book challenging to teach and how to organize teaching through the book. According to Reeder, Ecclesiastes has a lot to teach us about how to approach life and death, as well as the promise of life beyond death.

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    Solomon the Cynic & the Job You Never Knew - Wisdom E6

    Solomon the Cynic & the Job You Never Knew - Wisdom E6

    In part 1 (0-24:15), Tim and Jon discuss the book of Ecclesiastes. This book can most easily be
    described as a portrait of “foolish Solomon,” who looks back at his accomplishments as failure
    and hevel.

    Tim points out that the start of the book begins by creating a “Solomon-like” persona.
    Ecclesiastes 1:1
    “The words of the preacher son of David, king in Jerusalem...” (NASB, ESV, KJV) “The words
    of the teacher, son of David, king in Jerusalem...” (NIV, NRSV)
    However, there is a translation problem: This word does not mean “teacher” in the original
    Hebrew. Hebrew noun (קהלת (qoheleth, from the verb qahal (קהל ,(meaning “to assemble,
    convene.”

    The Hebrew word is Qoheleth—the one who holds or convenes an assembly, i.e. the “leader of
    the assembly” (Heb. qahal). So this word is best understood as an assembler or convener. The
    word is also used in 1 Kings 8:1, “Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the
    heads of the tribes... to bring up the ark of the covenant of the Lord from the city of David, which
    is Zion. All the men of Israel assembled themselves to King Solomon at the feast.”
    Tim’s point is that there are multiple leaders who assemble or convene Israel in the Bible.
    Who holds assemblies in Israel’s story?
    • Moses (Exod 35:1; Lev 8:1-3)
    • David (1 Chron 13:5; 15:3; 28:1)
    • Solomon (1 Kings 8:1; 2 Chron 5:2-3)
    • Rehoboam (Solomon’s son, 1 Kings 12:21; 2 Chron 11:1)
    • Asa (2 Chron 15:9-10)
    • Jehoshaphat (2 Chron 20:3-5)
    • Hezekiah (2 Chron 30:12-13)

    Tim cites scholar Jennie Barbour for additional clarification:
    “The name Qoheleth ‘the one who convenes the assembly’ is a label with royal associations—
    after Moses, only kings summon all-Israelite assemblies, and those associations take in more
    kings than just Solomon. Qoheleth’s name casts him as a royal archetype, not an ‘everyman’ so
    much as an ‘everyking.’” (Jenny Barbour, The Story of Israel in the Book of Qoheleth, p. 25-26)
    Any generation of Jerusalem’s kings could be called “son of David,” and the author tips his hat
    in Ecclesiastes 2:9, “I increased more than all who preceded me in Jerusalem.” (And the only
    person who reigned before him in Jerusalem was his father David.)
    Tim explains that the jaded king-author of Ecclesiastes brings a realism in light of Genesis 3,
    framing the world as life “under the sun,” or life outside of Eden. This king is realizing the curse
    of Genesis 3: painful toil and dust to dust.

    Tim further points out that Ecclesiastes offers a Solomon-like profile of the wealthy sons of
    David, who discovered that riches, honor, power, and women do not bring the life of Eden.
    Further, while many people assume that the descriptions solely describe the life of Solomon,
    Tim points out that they also map very closely onto the life of Hezekiah.
    Take a look at these two passages:

    Ecclesiastes 2:4-8 I made great my works: I built houses for myself, I planted vineyards for
    myself; I made gardens and parks for myself and I planted in them all kinds of fruit trees; I made
    ponds of water for myself from which to irrigate a forest of growing trees. I bought male and
    female slaves and I had homeborn slaves. Also I possessed flocks and herds more abundant
    than all who preceded me in Jerusalem. Also, I collected for myself silver and gold and the
    treasure of kings and provinces. I provided for myself male and female singers and the
    pleasures of men—many concubines.

    Hezekiah in 2 Chronicles 32:27-30 Now Hezekiah had immense riches and honor; and he
    made for himself treasuries for silver, gold, precious stones, spices, shields and all kinds of
    valuable articles, collection-houses also for the produce of grain, wine and oil, pens for all kinds
    of cattle and sheepfolds for the flocks. He made cities for himself and acquired flocks and herds
    in abundance, for God had given him very great wealth. It was Hezekiah who stopped the upper
    outlet of the waters of Gihon and directed them to the west side of the city of David. And
    Hezekiah prospered in all his works.

    Tim cites Jennie Barbour again:
    “In all of these ways [building projects, riches, royal treasuries, pools, singers] the royal boast
    in Eccles. 2:4-10 displays a king’s achievements in terms that show an author of the Second
    Temple period reading an interpreting the earlier stories of Israel’s kings...the writer has pulled
    together texts and motifs from Israel’s histories...to show that the paradigm king, Solomon, set
    the mould that was continually replicated through the rest of Israel’s monarchy down to the
    exile.” (Jennie Barbour, The Story of Israel in the Book of Qoheleth, 23-24)
    In part 2 (24:15- 31:45), Jon asks how the narrative frame of Ecclesiastes being about all of
    Israel’s kings—not just about Solomon—affects someone’s reading? Tim says he thinks it
    makes the story more universal. All rulers and all humans struggle with the same things that
    Solomon and other rulers have felt throughout history.

    In part 3 (31:45-50:15), Tim and Jon turn their attention to the book of Job. Tim notes that he’s
    recently learned of some new and fascinating layers to the book. Tim notes that Job is
    positioned as a new type of Adam. He actually is portrayed as being righteous and upright. So
    he’s an ideal wise person who has prospered during his life. Tim focuses on the beginning and
    end of the book. Specifically the ending of the book, Tim finds new insights to ponder.
    Tim notes that Job is portrayed as the righteous sufferer. Everything that has happened to him
    is unfair. Then Tim dives into Job 42:7-10:
    “And it came about after Yahweh had spoken these words to Job, and Yahweh said to Eliphaz
    the Temanite, “My anger is kindled against you and against your two friends, because you
    have not spoken of Me what is right as My servant Job has. “And now, take for yourselves
    seven bulls and seven rams, and go to My servant Job, and offer up a burnt offering for
    yourselves, and My servant Job will pray for you. For I will lift up his face so that I may not
    commit an outrage with you, because you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant
    Job has.” So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went
    and they did as Yahweh told them; and the Lord lifted the face of Job. And Yahweh restored
    the fortunes of Job while he prayed on behalf of his companions, and Yahweh added to
    everything that belonged to Job, two-fold.”

    The operative phrase Tim focuses on is “while he prayed.” Tim says this is a better translation of
    the original Hebrew phrase. Tim notes that it’s as if Job’s righteous suffering has uniquely
    positioned him to intercede on behalf of his friends to God.
    In part 4, (50:15-60:00) Tim shares a few quotes from scholar David Clines regarding Job’s
    intercession in 42:10.

    “[W]e must remember that Job has not yet been restored when the friends bring their request
    to him for his prayer. He is presumably still on the ash-heap. He has no inkling that Yahweh

    intends to reverse his fortunes. All he knows is that he is still suffering at Yahweh’s hand, and, if
    it is difficult for the friends to acknowledge the divine judgment against them, it must be no less
    difficult for Job to accept this second-hand instruction to offer prayer for people he must be
    totally disenchanted with; he certainly owes them nothing... Is this yet another ‘test’ that Job
    must undergo before he is restored?
    “The wording of Job 42:10 makes it seem as if Job’s restoration is dependent on his prayer on their behalf, as if his last trial of all will be to take his stand on the side of his ‘torturer-
    comforters.’ It is true that this prayer is the first selfless act that Job has performed since his misfortunes overtook him—not that we much begrudge him the self-centeredness that has
    dominated his speech throughout the book. Perhaps his renewed orientation to the needs of
    others is the first sign that he has abandoned his inward-looking mourning and is ready to
    accept consolation. In any case, in the very act of offering his prayer on the friends’ behalf his
    own restoration is said to take effect: the Hebrew says, “Yahweh restored the fortunes of Job
    while he was praying for his friends” (not, as most versions, “when (or after) he had prayed for
    his friends”).” David J. A. Clines, Job 38–42, vol. 18B, Word Biblical Commentary (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson, 2011), 1235.

    Tim notes that the point of the story of Job is that he suffers unfairly, but the righteous sufferer is
    someone that God elevates to a place of authority, someone who God listens to when they
    intercede for others.

    In part 5 (60:00-end), Tim and Jon briefly recap the series as a whole.

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    David J. A. Clines, Job 38–42, vol. 18B, Word Biblical Commentary (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson,
    2011).

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    Proverbs: Lady Wisdom & Lady Folly - Wisdom E4

    Proverbs: Lady Wisdom & Lady Folly - Wisdom E4

    In part 1 (start-17:45), the guys briefly recap the series so far. Jon summarizes by saying that the overarching theme is the human calling to rule, as outlined in the Genesis and garden of Eden narrative. The question is, will humans rule wisely or foolishly?

    In part 2 (17:45-27:00), Tim and Jon discuss how Proverbs lays out two paths, which are the same two paths outlined in Genesis. A person can either choose to live wisely, depicted as listening to “Lady Wisdom,” or a person can choose to live foolishly, depicted as listening to “Lady Folly.”

    Early in Proverbs, the “Solomon” narrator warns the “seed of David” about how to live in the fear of Yahweh and discover true wisdom. The wise and righteous man embraces Lady Wisdom (Proverbs 1, 3, 8, 9).

    The goal of finding “a woman of valor” (Prov. 5, 31) avoids the wicked and violent man, avoids Lady Folly (Prov. 9), and avoids the “wayward woman” (characterized as an adulteress).

    Tim notes that there are four speeches each that talk about Lady Wisdom and Lady Folly, for a total of eight speeches. The components of these speeches are designed to mirror each other.

    In part 3 (27:00-39:00), Tim outlines Proverbs 9, which is an example of the two women mirroring each other.

    Proverbs 9:1-6
    "Wisdom has built her house,
    She has hewn out her seven pillars;
    She has prepared her food, she has mixed her wine;
    She has also set her table;
    She has sent out her maidens, she calls
    From the tops of the high places of the city:
    ‘Whoever is naive, let him turn in here!’
    To him who lacks understanding she says,
    ‘Come, eat of my bread
    And drink of the wine I have mixed.
    ‘Forsake your folly and live,
    And proceed in the way of understanding.’”

    Proverbs 9:13-18
    “The woman of folly is boisterous,
    She is naive and knows nothing.
    She sits at the doorway of her house,
    On a seat by the high places of the city,
    Calling to those who pass by,
    Who are making their paths straight:
    ‘Whoever is naive, let him turn in here,’
    And to him who lacks understanding she says,
    ‘Stolen water is sweet;
    And bread eaten in secret is pleasant.’
    But he does not know that the dead are there,
    That her guests are in the depths of Sheol.”

    Tim notes that accepting divine wisdom is the way to discover the blessings of Eden. Consider Proverbs 3:

    Proverbs 3:1-8, 13-18
    “My son, do not forget my teaching,
    But let your heart keep my commandments;
    For length of days and years of life
    And peace they will add to you.
    Do not let kindness and truth leave you;
    Bind them around your neck,
    Write them on the tablet of your heart.
    So you will find favor and good repute
    In the sight of God and man.
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart
    And do not lean on your own understanding.
    In all your ways acknowledge Him,
    And He will make your paths straight.
    Do not be wise in your own eyes;
    Fear the Lord and turn away from ra’.
    It will be healing to your body
    And refreshment to your bones.”

    “How blessed is the man who finds wisdom
    And the man who gains understanding.
    For her profit is better than the profit of silver
    And her gain better than fine gold.
    She is more precious than jewels;
    And nothing you desire compares with her.
    Long life is in her right hand;
    In her left hand are riches and honor.
    Her ways are pleasant ways
    And all her paths are peace.
    She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her,
    And happy are all who hold her fast."

    Tim cites Proverbs 3 because he notes that the wise woman metaphorically becomes the tree of life. This maps onto the Garden of Eden narrative. Tim says that the book of Proverbs is designed to be a reflection on Genesis 1-3.

    In part 4 (39:00-end), Tim outlines Proverbs 31. Tim notes that the woman outlined here could be said to be a sort of real-life version of the metaphoric “Lady Wisdom” depicted earlier in the book. Tim notes that while Proverbs views the pursuit of wisdom from a male perspective of choosing between two metaphorical women, the next book, Song of Songs, flips it, and views the pursuit of wisdom from a female perspective.

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