women in cider

DC Brau has been a gold standard in craft beer in DC for more than a decade. During that time Paulette Palacios has moved up through the beer scene, learning all the ins and outs of beer buying and building a network within the industry. Today they head up the taproom for the DC Brau Brewery and are instrumental in supporting diversity and equality initiatives in the beer industry across the region. Paulette sits down with me to share how they got here, walk me through a day in the life, and announce what’s on the horizon.

Notes:
DMV = The Washington metropolitan region that encompasses the District of Columbia, Maryland, and Virginia
The Great Detroit Bankruptcy of 2013

Special Mentions:
DC Brau
Mustang Sally Brewing Company
Port City Brewing Company

University of Richmond Beer Brewer Professional Certificate Program

Black Brew Movement
Urban Garden Brewery

Pink Boots Collaboration Brew Day
Pink Boots Hop Blend (Yakima Chief)

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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I talk a lot about the village in the cider world, and in beer, and in spirits. Michelle Mandro is building a network and a community within the wine world to support and highlight the work and successes of women across the wine industry. Wine Country Women has built a network, printed beautiful books featuring women in wine and spearheads scholarships and mentorships to support members at every level. We talk about what it’s like to be the first to build a network like this and what it takes and why it’s important to bring women together.

Wine Country Women

Special Mentions:

American Institute of Wine & Food
WCW Scholarships through the SommFoundation
Wine Country Women Books
50-State Winery Guide (book, mentioned but not an affiliate link)

Statistics for Women Participating in the Wine Industry from Zippia

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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Mae Littlefield had a couple of different businesses under her belt before she set out with her husband to develop and build a beautiful distillery in Southern Maine complete with a lovely lineup of craft spirits foraged from all parts of the state and showcasing the amazing smells and tastes of this unique New England region. But it has not come without its challenges.

Special Mentions:

Wild Bevy Distilling

Hardshore Distilling Company

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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Inventory tracking, production scheduling, ingredient buying, vendor relations, task organization. All the critical yet not very sexy responsibilities that go into getting that craft drink in your hand. My former co-worker Alisha Blue joins me as we share a day in the life of production management. When everything is going right until it all goes very wrong. What needs to happen and how you adapt in the constantly shifting world of alcohol production.

Online Production Management Resources (that helped us)
Ekos - Brewery/cidery/distillery management software
Asana - Task management software

Production Meeting Agenda:

Tasks for the Week:
Tuesday - Can 500g of Dry
Wednesday - Finish brite in kegs of Dry with an emphasis on 1/2BBLs
Thursday - Filter OG
Friday - Juice arrival!!!!

Inventory Check In:

• Cans
• Can ends
• Case trays
• Ingredients
• Cleaning chemicals

At the end of the day, it's not a heart in the cooler. Stay safe and have fun!

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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Her cider journey has taken her from a HUGE commercial cidery in Michigan to a small production cidery and tasting room in North Carolina where they use pet nat processes and disgorging. And each experience feeds her passion for cider and the apples that make it. Becca Galvin joins me to share her wild cider ride and share how she has made a place for herself both behind the bar and behind the scenes. Enjoy!

Special Mentions and Resources:

Virtue Cider
Botanist & Barrel Cidery & Winery

GLINTCAP - Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition

If in Asheville, NC - Asheville Food Tours

Pomme Boots is now part of Pink Boots Society - Find some local alcohol industry friends today!

Pet Nat - Originating from France, Pétillant Naturel, translates to mean "naturally sparkling“. This refers to the final part of the process, in which fermentation is finished off in either bottles or cans to create fine carbonation bubbles.

Fortified Cider - Cider that has been strengthened in alcohol (and aroma and flavor) after fermentation by the addition of spirits is generally called Fortified Cider. A cider fortified with apple spirits is known in France as pommeau.

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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She has three kids under 10, she’s running one of the most successful cideries in West Virginia, she’s the Vice President of the Board of Directors for the American Cider Association and she balances it all so well. Brooke Glover shares how she built Swilled Dog Cider from the garage up and how she’s making it all work.

Swilled Dog Cider - Visit their site to order some cider, see tasting room hours, and see what they're all about.

Special Mentions
Smooth Ambler Spirits
Still Hollow Spirits

DISCUS - Distilled Spirits Council of the United States

References (more info)
Miller Coors Miller Light Women's History Month Ad
Bud Light "Controversy" with Influencer Dylan Mulvaney, and ensuing boycott (if you haven't read about it yet, be prepared to get mad)

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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This is a thing. You’ve poured your heart and soul into a business, a career, a relationship. It’s toxic, you’re emotional, you’re drained, you’re not yourself. Yet you stay with it because you think it’s worth it. You’ve invested so much. The sunk cost fallacy is absolutely a thing and here is my story of how it impacted us and our cider company. And disclaimer - this might not be pretty. 

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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HOPS! They're required to make beer and tastes mighty nice in cider as well! Because I didn’t know most of this myself, I want to take you on a brief tour of hops - what the hell are they? Why and how they are used in beer, the history of growing them in the US, and why we liked them so much, we made a flagship cider with them for South City Ciderworks.

Cited References:

Hop Growers of America - Growing Hops is Thirsty Work

The Guardian - A Brief History of IPA

Great Lakes Hops - How Did Hops Ever Get In Beer in the First Place?

University of Wisconsin-La Crosse - Hops: Anatomy and Chemistry 101

KegWorks - What are Hops: A Beginner’s Guide to Hops and Beer

Craft Beer and Brewing - American Hops, History

Kegerator.com - Hops and Homebrew: How to use them when brewing

Cider Mentions:

Wandering Aengus Cider

Yakima Chief Hops - Falconer's Flight 7Cs

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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She’s focused her education and career on empowering women and advocating for their well-being. Now she has put her experiences into words with a new book about cultivating assertiveness and finding your voice. Cara Tuttle Bell joins me to share her personal journey and dive into why the systems are failing women in the workplace and what we can do to help ourselves and each other. Harness that rage ladies!

Get her book today!

Drowning in Timidity: Women, Politeness, and the Power of Assertive Living
Free Shipping Code:  COURAGE

Also on Amazon (paperback and Kindle)

Follow Cara to learn more about her work and the book:
Instagram
Facebook
LinkedIn
Twitter

Special Mentions:
Innovation Women Bookstore
Professional Women Publishing

 Other Recommended Books:

Becoming Bulletproof: Protect Yourself, Read People, Influence Situations, and Live Fearlessly by Evy Poumpouras

Women Don't Ask: The High Cost of Avoiding Negotiation and Positive Strategies for Change by  Linda Babcock and Sara Laschever

Ask for It: How Women Can Use the Power of Negotiation to Get What They Really Want by  Linda Babcock and Sara Laschever

In case you were distressed by this conversation, you are welcome to contact Cara directly through her website or LinkedIn or visit these two great resources:

The Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN)
Available by phone at 1-800-656-4673. Online chat support is also available at the link above. RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) is the nation’s largest anti-sexual violence organization. RAINN created and operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline and offers prevention education. Guides for what to do after an assault, how to support a friend or family member, and more are available on their website.

The National Sexual Harassment/Assault Legal Assistance Hotline
Available by phone at 567-SHATTER (567-782-8837) or complete the online form.  The Take Back The Night Foundation legal support team provides free support so those impacted by sexual harassment, sexual assault, or other sexual violence can explore their legal options.  To learn more, they offer an FAQ.

Again, we are here to help each other and this podcast is developed to provide resources for professional women in the alcohol industry who might be struggling or feeling along. You are not alone! You have a village! And you don't have to deal with the bulls**t!

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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The Sober Curious movement is gaining traction in this country which I am reminded of at the start of every year with all the Dry January posts. And if you need to reassess your relationship with alcohol, please, by all means. But on behalf of alcohol producers, I feel compelled to say a few words about how a neo-prohibition movement, no matter how small, must not negate the love, respect, and passion that cidermakers, winemakers, brewers, distillers, and fermenters in general have for the beverages they produce. These professionals have an avid dedication to the craft and they are very aware that it comes with great responsibility.

References and Special Mentions:

Inside the New Temperance Movement, This Naked Mind, Control Alcohol
From Dry January to Fake Cocktails, Inside the New Temperance Movement, The Washington Post Magazine
Dry January ACA
Temperance Movement Today in US: Neo-Prohibitionism, Alcohol Problems and Solutions

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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For this episode we’re headed back West, to the Central Coast of California. There, Morgan and Maggie have been building Two Broads Ciderworks - focusing on locally grown apples and wild fermented, co-fermented, single varietal, and classically blended ciders. They have bootstrapped a small business and also continue to face challenges, like most in the queer community in America. Despite it all, they’re staying true to themselves and their company vision, growing organically, and adapting to meet every obstacle.

Two Broads Ciderworks - For more information on their ciders and to order some if you live on the West Coast! 
Tasting Room Hours: Friday: 3-8:30pm, Saturday: 1-8:30pm
Vinoshipper - To order their ciders if you do not live on the West Coast!

Special Mentions:
- San Luis Obispo Brewers - SLO Homebrew Club
- At Her Table - Their mission is to bring awareness and support to women-owned and co-owned businesses in the food and beverage industry on the central coast.
- Sybil Lamb - Artist
- Cider Riot Attack - Update on the 2019 right-wing attack at a now-closed Portland, OR cider bar. 
- Ice Cider - A fermented beverage made from the juice of frozen apples. Similar to ice wine, the use of frozen apples concentrates the natural sugars in the apples, resulting in a higher alcohol content than cider made by traditional methods.

Special Cidery Mentions:
Tilted Shed Ciderworks - Windsor, CA
Eden Specialty Ciders - Newport, VT
Bristols Cider House - Atascadero, CA
Botanist and Barrel Cidery & Winery - Cedar Grove, NC

Special Event Mentions:
Hard Core Cider Tour
Central Coast Cider Festival 

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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For this episode Jamie Barlett of PolyPay joins me to talk about the great resource that she has developed to connect small businesses with the payment processing tools that they need while also sharing her journey of building this finance company from the ground up as a female in a male dominated financial industry. It’s another example of carving out your place and making it your own.

Special Mentions:
PolyPay
Businesses require flexibility in the different ways they accept payments, whether through traditional terminals, software integrations, E-Commerce tools and mobile solutions. We have developed a deep knowledge base which allows us to tailor solutions that best fit each business’s operations.

GrapeGears
Ekos

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

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Today I have some news to share - that South City Ciderworks is closing its doors and shutting down production permanently. This has been a painful journey over the last month and I know that it is not over yet. But through it all I have had this podcast, and I have more yet to share, assuming I don’t start feeling like a total imposter.

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode. If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate, and review to help out this podcast! 5 stars goes a long long way and I so appreciate your support. I know it says write a review and that can be daunting but apparently Apple isn’t asking for a novel. A simple Hey! What’s up? Would be more than fine! And for more information about me and this podcast visit us online at othercwords.com or follow me @othercwords.com.

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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Jennie Dorsey has built a career around her passion for cider and her enthusiasm is contagious. She’s been on the sales beat, she’s managed a sales team, she’s run a taproom restaurant, she’s written the rules on how to taste, analyze, and talk about cider and she joins me on this episode to talk all about it!

Special Mentions:

Tieton Cider Works
Portland Cider House for Schilling Cider
American Cider Association - Certified Cider Professional Program

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode. If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate, and review to help out this podcast! 5 stars goes a long long way and I so appreciate your support. I know it says write a review and that can be daunting but apparently Apple isn’t asking for a novel. A simple Hey! What’s up? Would be more than fine!

And for more information about me and this podcast follow me @othercwords or visit me online at othercwords.com. 

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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The apple orchard has been in the family for five generations and that love and legacy shows through in the great cider that they make. For this episode, Andrea from Far West Cider over in Richmond, CA joins me to chat about growing up on the family farm, her journey into cider, and what they’re doing to innovate and keep things interesting with the beverages they make.

Special Mentions:
Hard Core Cider Tour
Far West Cider - Subscription Box Options and a list of participating Farmers Markets
Luck You Orchards, Chinchiolo Farms - U Pick Opportunities
Value Added Producer Grant - USDA Rural Development

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate, and review to help out this podcast! 5 stars goes a long long way and I so appreciate your support. I know it says write a review and that can be daunting but apparently Apple isn’t asking for a novel. A simple Hey! What’s up? Would be more than fine! And for more information about me and this podcast visit us online at othercwords.com or on social media @othercwords. Thanks for listening!

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If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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Each alcohol category in the US has its own association, or if anything, an organization that helps spread education and advocacy about the craft. For cider, we have an amazing woman at the helm who has helped build the American Cider Association into a vocal champion for us cidermakers, cidery owners, and cider enthusiasts. I sit down with Michelle this episode to hear all about her unique cider journey and her role in the industry.

Cider Resources:
VinoShipper - Direct to Consumer resource
CiderCon
Cider Institute of North American - online classes
Certified Cider Professional and Pommelier Certifications

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Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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For this episode in my cidermaker series I am joined by another member of the Blindwood Cider team over in San Leandro, California. Erin helped her brother Drew create the business and has kept the company running while he has kept the cider flowing. We talk all about building a cider company, building a brand, and building your village.

Special Mentions:
Cider Summit @cidersummit
Castro Valley Natural Grocery - @castrovalleynaturalgrocery

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Being behind the bar and keeping a restaurant or bar fully stocked with inventory and organized with a menu is hard work. And super time consuming. A lot goes into that tap list that you see when you sit down at the bar. And for the women in this world, they deal with a lot of other crap as well. So I interrupt this buyer series to do a quick reflection on the women who I am talking to and why they are amazing... Even if they don’t always feel amazing.

And that’s a wrap! Are you behind the bar day and night and would be up for me interviewing you? Placing the orders and making the bar or store tick? Would love to showcase your perspective! Email me at info@othercwords.com.

In the meantime, please subscribe, rate, and review to help out this podcast! 5 stars goes a long long way and I so appreciate your support. I know it says write a review and that can be daunting but apparently Apple isn’t asking for a novel. A simple Hey! What’s up? Would be more than fine! And for more information about me and this podcast visit us online at othercwords.com. Talk to you soon! And thanks for joining me today!

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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I’ve talked with producers, I’ve talked with distributors, now I’m shifting gears to showcase the buyers. These are the women behind the bar who are making the decisions and keeping the cider and beer flowing. For this episode I sit down with Isabel who has a great story to tell as she’s moved from bar, to taproom, to brewery, building her own wealth of knowledge and sharing that education with the masses. This is a start to a longer series about women behind the bar and how they’re crushing it.

Special Mentions:
 
Harry's Hoffbrau - @harryshofbraurwc and @harryshofbrausanleandro
Taplands - @taplandssantaclara
Moksa Brewing - @moksabrewing

Urban Roots - @urbanrootssmokehouse

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate, and review to help out this podcast! 5 stars goes a long long way and I so appreciate your support. I know it says write a review and that can be daunting but apparently Apple isn’t asking for a novel. A simple Hey! What’s up? Would be more than fine! And for more information about me and this podcast visit us online at othercwords.com or on social media @othercwords. Talk to you soon!

Thank you to Tony Stuck for the awesome intro/outro music and to Mary Ann King for the amazing pod art that you see for every episode.

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please share it with a family member, a friend in the alcohol industry, or even just a stranger on the street! I so appreciate your support.

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I’ve talked to suppliers and distributors, and now we’re circling back to talk to another awesome cider entrepreneur in the Bay Area - Jolie Devoto of Golden State Cider. She has been the heart and soul of a couple cider brands in Northern California and is joining me to talk about her journey, the evolution of those brands, and her passion for flavors and the local farm.

Golden State Cider Club! Join today to receive your own packs of farm-focused ciders from California delivered directly to you. 

In CA? Make sure to visit the taproom at The Barlow in Sebastopol

180 Morris Street, Ste. 150
​Sebastopol, CA 95472

Mon & Tues: 12pm-5pm
Wed & Thurs: 4pm - 8pm
Fri - Sun: 12pm - 8pm
*Hours subject to change

To learn more about their awesome ciders visit Golden State Cider ONLINE or follow them on the socials @drinkgoldenstate

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