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    #136 The Coffee Episode with Alex Manos and Alex Higham from Exhale Coffee

    enFebruary 09, 2022

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    • Shopping for Mother's Day Gifts: Jewelry from Blue Nile and Premium Items from Whole FoodsConsider Blue Nile for jewelry gifts with fast shipping and Mother's Day deals. Whole Foods offers premium gifts, flowers, desserts, and savings on body care and candles. Coffee lovers can try Exhale Coffee for health-focused beans and benefits beyond antioxidants.

      Mother's Day is approaching, and there are excellent places to shop for thoughtful gifts. For jewelry, consider Blue Nile, which offers a wide selection, fast shipping, and special Mother's Day deals. Whole Foods Market is another great option for premium gifts, flowers, desserts, and savings on body care and candles. Meanwhile, coffee lovers might be interested to know about the potential health benefits of coffee. These benefits extend beyond antioxidants and involve complex mechanisms that mimic those seen with other plant-based foods. Research suggests that growing coffee at higher altitudes, where the plants experience more stress, can lead to a higher concentration of health-promoting compounds like chlorogenic acid. Exhale Coffee is a unique coffee brand that sources and roasts beans specifically for their health and performance benefits, making it an excellent choice for those who prioritize both taste and wellness. The company's coffee is organic, specialty grade, and high in various healthy plant phytochemicals. Exhale Coffee's founders, Alex Manos and Al Heim, discuss the importance of sourcing stressed crops, the health benefits of roasting, and the impact of brew methods and decaffeination on the health profile of coffee. Overall, coffee, whether caffeinated or decaffeinated, can be a valuable addition to a diverse, plant-focused diet.

    • Excel Coffee: More Than Just Great-Tasting CoffeeExcel Coffee prioritizes sustainability, health impact, fair trade, and farmer well-being, founded by health-conscious individuals with personal stories, offering an app with 250+ recipes for a healthy lifestyle.

      Excel Coffee is not just about delivering great-tasting coffee but also prioritizes sustainability, health impact, fair trade, and the well-being of farmers and importers. Founders Al Manos and Alex, who have personal health stories, created the company after facing their own health challenges. Al, the founder, was an accountant before and developed an autoimmune condition that led him to research and take control of his health. He discovered coffee's role in both health and endurance sports, inspiring him to launch Excel Coffee. Alex, the chief wellness officer, has a background in personal training, massage therapy, and functional nutrition, focusing on gut health and the impact of coffee on it. The app, The Doctor's Kitchen, offers over 250 recipes, adding new ones monthly, with the mission to provide the best app experience and accessible information for a healthy, happy life. Use the code "rupee" for a 40% discount on your first two bags of Excel Coffee.

    • From health journey to high-performance coffee brandThe founder's personal health experiences and love for coffee inspired him to create a brand offering high-quality, healthy coffee, backed by scientific research.

      The founder of Exair, Al, was inspired by the health benefits of coffee during his own health journey and saw a gap in the market for a high-performance, healthy coffee brand. This idea was further validated by his functional medicine practitioner, Alex, who shared his own positive views on coffee for health. Together, they launched Exair, a business that offers delicious, high-quality coffee with health benefits, grounded in scientific research. Al's passion for health and performance, fueled by his own experiences and love for coffee, led him to leave his career in accounting and pursue this aspirational brand full-time. Whether it's running ultra marathons or enjoying a great cup of coffee, Al embodies the brand's commitment to both performance and wellness.

    • Discovering the Health Benefits of CoffeeDrinking 3-4 cups of coffee a day can reduce all-cause mortality by 10%, lower risk of cardiometabolic conditions including type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome, and the specialty coffee industry's cupping process ensures consistency in scoring, impacting farmers' income.

      Coffee, which was once considered a guilty pleasure or a source of stress for students, can actually have numerous health benefits. The speaker shared her personal journey of discovering these benefits while in medical school. Initially, she started drinking coffee for the caffeine boost but gradually evolved her taste and appreciation for the beverage. She began with sugary mochas and eventually moved on to black coffee, enjoying the complex flavors. Coffee's health benefits extend beyond energy. Research indicates that coffee drinkers, especially those consuming 3-4 cups a day, have a 10% reduced risk of all-cause mortality. Additionally, coffee consumption is linked to a lower risk of cardiometabolic conditions, including type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome. Moreover, the specialty coffee industry takes coffee tasting seriously, using a strict protocol called cupping to evaluate the quality of the beans. This process ensures consistency in scoring, which can significantly impact the price farmers receive for their crops. Overall, coffee is a beverage with both personal and health benefits. Whether enjoyed for its taste or its potential health advantages, coffee is a fascinating topic with a rich history and a bright future.

    • Coffee's Health Benefits: Polyphenols and BeyondCoffee consumption, including caffeinated and decaffeinated, is linked to a reduced risk of various health conditions due to its polyphenol content, primarily chlorogenic acid, melanoidins, caffeic acid, and diterpenes. Other sources of polyphenols, like tea and green tea, offer similar benefits.

      Drinking coffee, both caffeinated and decaffeinated, is associated with a reduced risk of various health conditions. Coffee is a significant contributor to our total polyphenol intake, with chlorogenic acid being the most abundant polyphenol and a major contributor to these health benefits. Other compounds like melanoidins, caffeic acid, and diterpenes also play a role. From a health perspective, coffee consumption is linked to a reduced risk of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, liver cirrhosis, liver cancer, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease, stroke, coronary heart disease, and various types of cancer. Tea and green tea also contain polyphenols, making them comparable sources of these health benefits for those who cannot consume coffee. The roasting process can impact the concentration of these beneficial compounds, making it important to choose a roast that maximizes their presence.

    • Impact of roast level on health-promoting compoundsMedium roasts offer a balance between chlorogenic acid and melanoidins, making them a healthier choice due to their higher concentration of polyphenols.

      The roast level of coffee beans significantly affects the concentration of various health-promoting compounds. For instance, chlorogenic acid, a polyphenol with potential health benefits, decreases drastically as the roast level deepens, making medium roasts a better choice. On the other hand, melanoidins, formed during the Maillard reaction, peak at medium roasts but start declining towards darker roasts. Additionally, the process of importing and selecting coffee beans involves careful consideration, such as organic farming, washed processing, and chemical-free decaffeination methods. These factors contribute to higher concentrations of polyphenols in the final cup. To demystify the confusing terminology, washed coffee is a method of processing where the coffee cherries are fermented, and the beans are then washed and dried in machinery, while natural coffee is left on drying beds for longer, exposing the beans to more UV rays and potentially degrading some polyphenols.

    • From Beans to Exceptional Coffee: A Complex JourneyThrough careful consideration of bean type, specialty grade, and growing conditions, only 45 plantations were identified as sourcing exceptional coffee.

      Sourcing high-quality coffee involves careful consideration of various factors, including the type of beans (Arabica being more commonly used due to better taste), specialty grade (which ensures the absence of defects and better farming practices), and growing conditions at high altitudes (which can lead to higher concentrations of beneficial compounds like chlorogenic acid). The roasting process is equally complex, requiring careful balancing to maximize natural sweetness and sugars while avoiding the point where the chlorogenic acid begins to decline significantly. Through this meticulous process, only 45 plantations were identified as meeting all the criteria. While there are many coffee plantations worldwide, the journey to sourcing exceptional coffee is a complex and nuanced one.

    • Balancing flavor, function, and sustainability in the coffee industryThe coffee industry prioritizes sustainability, flavor, and functional benefits, ensuring a fair price for farmers and preserving beneficial compounds through careful roasting.

      The coffee industry, like the food industry, focuses on both the flavor and functional benefits, while prioritizing sustainability at every stage of the process. This balance is crucial, as there could be healthier or more sustainable coffee options available, but they may not meet the desired taste or ethical standards. For instance, the fair trade model, while important, may not be sufficient in the specialty coffee world due to market fluctuations. Instead, a closer relationship with reliable importers is crucial to ensure farmers receive fair prices. Furthermore, the roasting process plays a significant role in preserving beneficial polyphenols, which have antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. These compounds contribute to the health benefits associated with coffee consumption, as evidenced by both observational studies and laboratory research. The environment and climate in which the coffee beans are grown also influence the production of these phytochemicals, adding another layer of complexity to the industry.

    • Coffee and plant compounds stimulate health benefits beyond antioxidantsCoffee and certain plant compounds stimulate our innate cell defense mechanisms, enhance resilience against health conditions, and promote longevity through the nRF 2 pathway and phytochemical homeostasis.

      Coffee and certain plant compounds, such as chlorogenic acid and diterpenes, provide health benefits beyond their antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. These compounds can stimulate the nRF 2 pathway, leading to an upregulation of endogenous antioxidant systems and epigenetic changes that influence genetic expression. This hormetic response, or appropriate amount of stress, can enhance our innate cell defense mechanisms and promote resilience against various health conditions, including cancer. The concept of phytochemical homeostasis, or the idea that a little bit of harm is good, can be applied to coffee consumption and other plant-based foods. Additionally, consuming foods that have undergone their own hormetic response, such as red wine or high-altitude grown coffee, can provide additional health benefits. This research aligns with the work of scientists like David Sinclair, who emphasizes the importance of activating our stress response mechanisms to promote longevity and health.

    • Coffee's Health Benefits: Polyphenols, Social Aspect, and Minimizing ExposurePolyphenol-rich coffee can contribute to health and resilience, social drinking aspect adds benefits, choose organic and carefully sourced coffee to minimize pollutant exposure, reduce body burden through lifestyle choices and environmental awareness.

      Consuming coffee, particularly when it's high in polyphenols and tested for environmental pollutants, can contribute to overall health and resilience. The social aspect of coffee drinking also plays a role in its health benefits. However, it's important to consider the potential presence of pollutants like pesticides and mycotoxins, especially for individuals with higher body burdens. While it may not be feasible for everyone to extensively test their coffee, choosing organic and carefully sourced options can help minimize exposure. It's also crucial to keep things in perspective and avoid excessive health anxiety when making food choices. As the science on coffee's health effects is not always clear-cut, making informed decisions and prioritizing quality when possible is a reasonable approach. Additionally, reducing body burden through lifestyle choices and being aware of environmental pollutants can have positive impacts on overall health.

    • From beans to brew: Every choice matters for coffee's health benefitsChoose high-quality beans, brewing methods that preserve healthy compounds, and invest in better equipment for long-term health benefits.

      Making informed choices about the coffee we consume can have significant health benefits. From the origin of the beans to the brewing process, every step matters. For instance, a study found a 31-fold difference in the concentration of antioxidants between the healthiest and least healthy espressos. The brewing method also plays a crucial role in preserving the healthy compounds in coffee. Paper filters, commonly used in drippers and pour-over methods, remove up to 98% of the oils that contain healthy compounds like cafestol and kahweol. These oils have been linked to a temporary increase in cholesterol levels, but long-term consumption is associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular diseases. Alternatively, using a steel filter, such as in a V60 or an AeroPress, allows these beneficial compounds to pass through into your cup. Investing in better quality coffee and brewing equipment may seem costly initially, but the long-term health benefits make it a worthwhile investment. So, by making conscious choices in our daily coffee habits, we can vote for better quality products and enjoy the health benefits that come with them.

    • Optimizing Coffee Brewing for Healthful PolyphenolsUse a finer grind, slightly hotter water, and longer brewing time for optimal polyphenol extraction. Mineral-rich water may reduce their concentration. Coffee is a rich source of vitamins and antioxidants, including vitamin B3. Impact of milk on polyphenol absorption and enjoyment are priorities.

      Brewing coffee involves a chemical reaction that can be influenced by various factors to maximize the extraction of healthful polyphenols. These factors include temperature, grind size, and contact time with water. While the healthiest way to brew coffee is subjective and depends on personal preference, using a finer grind, slightly hotter water, and longer brewing time can optimize the extraction of these beneficial compounds. The type of water used can also impact the presence of polyphenols, with mineral-rich water potentially reducing their concentration in the brew. Coffee itself is a rich source of vitamins and antioxidants, including vitamin B3, making it an important part of a healthy diet. The addition of milk to coffee may affect the absorption of polyphenols, but the extent of this impact is not yet clear-cut. Ultimately, the enjoyment of the brewing process and the resulting cup of coffee should be the priority.

    • Preserving coffee's natural health benefitsTaking a natural approach to coffee is best for health. Inherent coffee properties offer benefits, while added ingredients often provide little value.

      When it comes to coffee and health, taking a natural and minimalist approach is more beneficial than adding multiple ingredients or gimmicks. The speaker emphasized the importance of working with the inherent properties of coffee beans to preserve healthy compounds and maximize their potential. They also criticized the trend of adding numerous ingredients to coffee and marketing it as healthy, often with little actual benefit. The speaker also touched on the importance of consumer consciousness and being aware of the true contents and quality of the products we consume. They encouraged listeners to recognize the natural benefits of coffee and food, rather than relying on added ingredients. Additionally, the speaker mentioned that decaffeinated coffee still provides similar health benefits as caffeinated coffee, making it a suitable option for those who cannot or choose not to consume caffeine.

    • Genetics and individual responses impact caffeine toleranceGenetics, stress, and individual responses determine how caffeine affects the body, with some people metabolizing it faster or slower, and decaf potentially beneficial for those already sympathetically driven.

      The difference in how people tolerate caffeine can be influenced by genetics, specifically the CYP 1a2 gene. This gene affects the activity of enzymes that metabolize caffeine, making some people "slow metabolizers" who have caffeine lingering in their system longer, while others are "fast metabolizers" who metabolize it more quickly. However, it's important to note that other factors, such as day-to-day stressors and individual responses, also play a role in how caffeine affects the body. For instance, studies have shown that regular coffee drinkers in non-stressful environments don't experience increased cortisol levels but do show markers of sympathetic nervous system upregulation. Therefore, decaf may be a better option for those who are already sympathetically driven. Additionally, research is emerging about the impact of coffee on the microbiome and gut-brain access, with some studies suggesting that both genetics and the microbiota determine the bioavailability of coffee metabolites. Overall, understanding these various factors can help individuals make informed decisions about their caffeine intake and potentially improve their overall health.

    • Coffee's Impact on Gut Health and the Gut Brain AxisCoffee's polyphenols can be beneficial for gut health and may influence the gut brain axis, potentially reducing anxiety, improving sleep, and impacting conditions like colon cancer and Parkinson's.

      The health of your microbiota plays a significant role in the health benefits you derive from consuming coffee. The polyphenols in coffee can be metabolized into healthier compounds when your gut is healthy. Coffee's antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties can also impact the gut. Additionally, coffee's potential link to a reduced risk of colon cancer and its motility effects may influence gut health and potentially have an impact on conditions like Parkinson's, given the gut's connection to various health systems including the brain. The gut brain axis, which has four pathways connecting the gut and brain, is a significant area of research, and coffee's polyphenols may influence this axis. Chlorogenic acid, a compound in coffee, has antianxiety properties and can improve sleep. Decaf coffee, decaffeinated using methods like the Swiss water process, can also provide some of these benefits with less caffeine. Overall, coffee's relationship with gut health and the gut brain axis is an exciting area of research.

    • Mountain water decaffeinating processMountain water decaffeination is a natural, healthier method preserving polyphenols, almost identical to regular coffee, beneficial for those sensitive to caffeine, and might enhance productivity when consumed an hour and a half after waking up

      The mountain water process of decaffeinating coffee is a more natural and healthier method compared to chemical processes. This method uses pure spring water from the highest mountain in Mexico to extract caffeine from the beans while preserving more polyphenols. Decaffeinated coffee made using this process is almost identical to regular coffee, making it a good option for those sensitive to caffeine. Additionally, consuming coffee an hour and a half after waking up might be more beneficial for productivity and cognitive function, especially after a poor night's sleep. However, individual preferences and lifestyles can influence the optimal timing for coffee consumption.

    • Coffee's Effect on Blood Sugar Levels VariesDespite personal differences, the future of cafes lies in adopting a specialty model with healthy food options to create a well-rounded healthy experience for customers.

      Personal experiences with coffee and its impact on blood sugar levels can vary greatly. While some may experience a negative effect, others may not notice any impact at all. The speaker shared that their morning coffee routine, which includes a double espresso on an empty stomach, does not significantly affect their blood sugar levels. They also mentioned that they prefer the taste of their morning coffee more than any other time of the day. When it comes to making coffee a healthier experience, the speaker believes that specialty coffee shops are already leading the way with healthy food options. However, they noted that a healthy coffee option is still lacking. The future of cafes, according to the speaker, is adopting a specialty coffee model with a focus on the health benefits of coffee. If the Excel brand were to open a cafe, the speaker suggested incorporating healthy food options, specifically Doctor's Kitchen recipes, to create a well-rounded healthy experience for customers.

    • Creating a doctor's kitchen-cafe with optimized meals and great coffeeCombine a doctor's kitchen concept with a cafe for a unique experience offering delicious, healthy meals and high-quality coffee.

      The ideal outcome for the speaker would be to create a doctor's kitchen-type cafe in the future, where they can provide optimized meals with a focus on vegetables and balanced flavors, along with great coffee. This concept combines the perfect environment, food, and beverages for a dream experience. The speaker has been asked about this idea numerous times and is passionate about making it a reality. For those interested, they can download the Doctor's Kitchen app and check out Oxtell Coffee for discounts. This discussion emphasized the importance of creating a space where people can enjoy delicious, healthy meals and high-quality coffee.

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