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    186: How to Get Your First Few Properties - Even in a Competitive Market with Dave Meyer

    enAugust 04, 2016

    Podcast Summary

    • Effective real estate investing strategies for full-time workersIncorporate creative financing and walking for dollars, listen to inspiring investor stories, stay active in the community, and utilize tools to expand your portfolio

      Real estate investing can be pursued while maintaining a full-time job, and effective strategies like creative financing and walking for dollars can help supplement income and expand an investment portfolio. The BiggerPockets Podcast features inspiring stories of successful investors, such as a guest with 8 units, who uses methods like rent-to-retire, allowing for no money down purchases of turnkey rental properties. Stay active and engaged in your investment community, utilize tools like the BiggerPockets Lead Manager, and never stop learning to maximize your potential in real estate.

    • Investing in Real Estate with Minimal Upfront CostsNew construction properties with discounted prices, investor loans with low interest and flexible down payments, 1031 exchanges for tax deferral, and side hustle investing are strategies to build wealth in real estate with minimal upfront costs and maximize long-term returns.

      There are various strategies for investing in real estate with minimal upfront costs and maximizing returns. Rent to Retirement offers new construction properties at discounted prices and investor loans with low interest rates and flexible down payment options. 1031 exchanges, facilitated by companies like First American Exchange, allow investors to defer capital gains taxes while expanding their rental property portfolios. And, as shared by Dave Meyer, a smart and successful investor working full-time, real estate investing can be done on the side without having to quit your day job. These strategies can help investors build wealth in real estate while minimizing initial investment and maximizing long-term returns.

    • Learning from a Neighbor's SuccessBe inspired by others' success, build a strong partnership, and learn from their experiences to achieve success in real estate investing.

      Sometimes, seeing others succeed can be the catalyst for our own success in real estate investing. Dave, a VP of growth at BiggerPockets, was inspired by a neighbor's plan to buy a house and make money. With no experience and limited resources, he and his roommate, a friend since childhood, decided to take the leap together. Their successful partnership began with a shared vision and the practical benefits of living close to their properties. This story highlights the importance of learning from others and having a strong support system in real estate investing.

    • Examining Multiple Properties to Find a Successful InvestmentGain confidence and knowledge by evaluating numerous potential deals to find a well-maintained property with good financial potential.

      When starting out in real estate investing, it's important to gain confidence and knowledge by looking at a large number of potential deals. In the case of the speaker, they looked at 50 properties before finding their first investment, a 4-unit building in Denver. The speaker's goal was to find a property that was well-maintained and had good financial potential, despite having limited experience in fixing things themselves at the time. They paid $460,000 for the property and were able to secure a conventional mortgage due to it having four units or fewer. The property's rents have since more than doubled, making it a successful investment. Overall, the experience of looking at numerous deals helped the speaker build confidence and make an informed decision on their first investment.

    • Long-term gains from real estate investmentsBuying real estate in a growing market can lead to significant long-term gains through rental income and property value increase, even with a low initial return. Focus on long-term potential and build a solid investment team.

      Buying a real estate investment property in a growing market, even with a low initial return, can lead to significant long-term gains through rental income appreciation and property value increase. The speaker's experience in Denver, where the population is growing faster than new housing construction, demonstrates this concept. Even if the property values stayed the same, the rental income would have provided positive cash flow. However, the actual property appreciation and rental income appreciation significantly enhanced the investment's returns. When evaluating potential real estate investments, it's essential to consider the long-term potential and not solely focus on the initial return. Additionally, having a solid investment team and clear communication and roles can make the investment process more successful, as the speaker's experience with friends and family investors demonstrated.

    • Successful real estate investing partnerships lead to financial gainsPartnering in real estate deals can provide investors with solid returns and incentivize hard work through shared profits and potential property appreciation.

      Forming successful real estate investing partnerships can lead to significant financial gains for all involved. The speaker shared his experience of bringing in capital partners for a real estate deal, securing their investment with a notarized agreement, and structuring the deal to provide returns for everyone based on their contributions. The partners received a solid 6% interest on their down payment, but their potential profits were amplified due to the property's appreciation. This arrangement not only incentivized the partners to invest but also motivated the speaker and his local partner to work hard and improve their skills, ultimately benefiting the partnership. The speaker emphasized the importance of partnerships, especially for those starting out with limited funds, and encouraged interested individuals to learn more about creative investing strategies, including partnerships, at an upcoming webinar.

    • Taking calculated risks for personal growthSeizing opportunities, even with financial limitations, can lead to valuable experiences and confidence building. First deals may involve sacrifices, but learning the ropes is crucial. Unexpected help can make a difference, but be realistic about your schedule and consider hiring a property manager.

      Seizing opportunities, even if it means taking a risk or stepping out of your comfort zone, can lead to valuable experiences and personal growth. My friend's story about taking the chance to invest in real estate despite financial limitations demonstrates this idea. Getting that first deal, even if it means sacrificing a significant portion of future profits, is crucial for learning the ropes and building confidence. And sometimes, unexpected help from others can make all the difference. However, it's essential to be realistic about what you can handle and consider hiring a property manager if your schedule doesn't allow for hands-on involvement. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of taking calculated risks and being open to learning from both successes and failures.

    • Learning market demand and pricing is key to real estate successFind desirable properties, secure financing, and increase rents to cover costs for successful real estate investments

      Understanding market demand and pricing is crucial for real estate success. The speaker learned this through managing his first rental property and observing high turnout for showings. He also emphasized the importance of finding a good deal and securing financing, even if you don't have all the resources upfront. The speaker's story of buying his second property, financed by his father, illustrates this. He found a desirable 3-unit building, with the main unit being a rare find in Denver, and was able to significantly increase the rent on the main unit to cover the mortgage, taxes, and insurance. This experience marked his first attempt at house hacking.

    • Identifying hidden potential in propertiesPhysically inspect properties and understand local zoning laws to find hidden value in real estate investments.

      Successful real estate investing often requires identifying hidden potential in properties. This can involve recognizing under-valued rents, unutilized spaces, or zoning opportunities. For instance, the speaker shared how they identified a hidden apartment unit in a property they purchased, which significantly increased the value of the investment. However, it's important to note that such opportunities are not always apparent from a distance or through online listings. Therefore, it's crucial to physically inspect properties and have a good understanding of local zoning laws to maximize the potential for finding hidden value. Overall, the creative approach of constantly asking "what could I do with this place?" is a key mindset for successful real estate investors.

    • Identifying underutilized zoning potential in DenverExplore communities, check city website for zoning info, convert unused spaces for high ROI

      Real estate investor Brandon looks for properties with underutilized zoning potential in areas he's interested in investing, specifically in Denver. He identifies these areas by exploring the community on a block-by-block basis and checking the city's website for zoning information. Brandon focuses on converting garages, attics, or basements into additional living units to increase property value, which can result in high returns on investment. When purchasing these properties, he aims to pay the same price as comparable properties without the potential for additional units, making it a smart and profitable investment strategy.

    • Maximizing real estate investments through space conversionsConverting unused spaces into rental units can lead to significant financial gains, reducing housing costs, and gaining experience in rental property management.

      Identifying and maximizing potential in real estate investments can lead to significant financial gains. This can be achieved by turning unused spaces, like attics or basements, into additional rental units. For instance, buying a 2-unit property and converting it into a 3-unit property may require some initial investment, but the increased rental income can lead to substantial returns. This strategy not only applies to real estate but is an excellent investment opportunity overall. It's essential to find a good deal in the first place, but the potential for added income from converting additional units can make it a worthwhile investment. This concept, known as house hacking, allows individuals to live in part of the property while renting out the rest, significantly reducing housing costs and even generating cash flow. It's a smart way to save money and gain experience in managing rental properties before taking on larger investments.

    • Persistence and proactivity lead to savings and desirable propertiesBeing persistent and proactive in real estate negotiations can lead to significant savings and the acquisition of desirable properties. Building relationships and having a strong network can also provide valuable opportunities.

      Being persistent and proactive in real estate negotiations can lead to significant savings and the acquisition of desirable properties. The speaker was able to buy a house off-market by hustling and going out of his way to find the seller, even after missing the initial opportunity. The seller was motivated to sell and was willing to make concessions, resulting in a purchase price lower than the asking price. This experience demonstrates the importance of being persistent, creative, and resourceful in real estate transactions. Additionally, having a strong network and building relationships with industry professionals can also provide valuable opportunities. In this case, the speaker's friend being a new broker allowed him to gain insight into the market and view properties before they were officially listed.

    • Creative and persistent negotiation strategiesBeing creative and persistent in real estate negotiations can lead to success, even when facing obstacles. Focus on unique strategies to stand out in a competitive market.

      Being creative and persistent in real estate negotiations can lead to success, even when facing obstacles like appraisal objections or intense competition. The speaker shared an experience where they went above asking price to secure a house, despite the seller being a broker who had already bought and renovated the property. This approach required financial resources and a willingness to take risks, but ultimately paid off. The market's competitiveness necessitates finding unique strategies to stand out. In another instance, the seller and the speaker's friend were both brokers, which didn't impact the negotiation as much. The speaker admired the "rifle approach" of focusing on one property and doing what it takes to secure it, even if the outcome isn't always perfect. This mindset and hustle can inspire all listeners looking to succeed in real estate.

    • Redfin's app and agents streamline home buying and selling processRedfin agents sell twice as many homes, saving sellers money with low listing fees. Passive investors can use Connect Invest, and DealMachine offers unlimited access to investor leads. Start with trusted partners, set clear boundaries with formal agreements.

      Whether you're buying or selling a home, Redfin's app and agents can help you through the process efficiently and cost-effectively. Redfin's agents sell twice as many homes as others, and their low listing fees save sellers significant money. For those interested in passive real estate investing, Connect Invest offers an online platform for easy participation with a low starting investment. And for lead generation, DealMachine provides unlimited access to contact information for investors looking for off-market deals. When it comes to finding a real estate investing partner, it's recommended to start with people you know, but make sure to set clear boundaries and expectations with a formal agreement. Past experiences highlight the importance of having a clear understanding to avoid potential conflicts.

    • Combining numbers, instinct, and experience in real estate investingStart with number crunching, use instinct, gain property management experience, save money, find a lower-priced property, and get agreements in writing and notarized.

      Successful real estate investing involves a combination of number crunching and instinct, as well as hands-on experience in property management. It's important to ensure the numbers work immediately and use instinct to make decisions, but also to learn the ins and outs of property management by doing it yourself. For those starting out, saving money and finding a lower-priced property is key to getting that first deal, which can be a life-changing experience. Don't forget to get important agreements in writing and notarized to take the business seriously.

    • Determining the best real estate investing strategy for youFind a strategy that aligns with your personal goals and circumstances, prioritize education, and stay motivated.

      Real estate investing can be approached in various ways, and there's no one-size-fits-all solution. Some people, like Dave, may choose to work full-time jobs while investing in real estate, while others might aim to become full-time investors. The key is to determine what strategy aligns best with your personal goals and circumstances. During the conversation, Dave shared his strategy of continuing to work full-time while investing in real estate. He emphasized the importance of education, having a solid base of knowledge, and understanding the terminology. Dave recommended "The Ultimate Beginner's Guide to Real Estate Investing" for those just starting their real estate journey. Additionally, Dave highlighted the importance of motivation and passion, as discussed in Simon Sinek's book "It Starts With Why." He also enjoys cooking and being an outdoors person when he's not working or investing. Overall, the discussion emphasized the importance of finding a strategy that suits your individual needs and circumstances, and the value of education and motivation in real estate investing.

    • Real Estate Investing: Control and Dedication Leads to SuccessThrough dedication and control in real estate investing, individuals can significantly impact their returns despite external market forces.

      Successful real estate investing requires total commitment and hustle. According to Brandon Turner, real estate investing offers more control compared to other forms of investment, allowing individuals to directly influence their returns. Despite external market forces, the effort and dedication put into real estate investing can lead to significant success, as evidenced by individuals who have started with nothing. To connect with Brandon and learn more about BiggerPockets, visit the forums. Brandon shared that his current office setup, complete with dead flowers, allows him quiet time to focus, making podcast recordings a convenient solution. Unfortunately, Brandon didn't share any exciting stories about their brief encounter.

    • Leveraging Analytical Skills and 4-Hour Workweek Lifestyle in Real Estate Investing with Dave MeyerDave Meyer, an expert in real estate analytics, embraces the 4-hour workweek lifestyle while generating profitable investments in an expensive market.

      Dave Meyer, a key figure at BiggerPockets, was on the podcast sharing his unique real estate investing strategies and insights. He's known for his analytical skills and ability to understand complex metrics, making him an invaluable asset to the team. Despite his productivity, he embraces the 4-hour workweek lifestyle. His real estate investments in an expensive market are yielding results through a different strategy than others. The podcast also mentioned an upcoming webinar on three favorite low money down strategies, which listeners can sign up for by texting "bp webinar" to 33444. The episode ended with a reminder to join the BiggerPockets forums for networking and learning opportunities. The importance of finding an investor-friendly agent was emphasized with the introduction of BiggerPockets Agent Finder as a solution for those looking to enter or advance in real estate investing.

    • Connect with investor-friendly agents on BiggerPockets.com/dealsAccess investor-friendly agents for free on BiggerPockets.com/deals to help navigate neighborhoods, analyze numbers, and build confidence in successful real estate investments.

      BiggerPockets.com/deals offers a valuable resource for those looking to invest in real estate. By entering some details about what and where you want to buy, you can instantly connect with an investor-friendly agent who can help navigate the neighborhoods, analyze numbers, and build confidence in making a successful investment. This free service is only available on BiggerPockets.com/deals, providing a crucial step towards financial freedom. Remember, investment in real estate or any asset involves risk, and it's essential to consult with qualified advisors before making a decision. Use your best judgment and only risk capital you can afford to lose. The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only, and past performance is not indicative of future results. BiggerPockets LLC disclaims all liability for any damages arising from reliance on the information presented.

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