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    #201 April Dunford: Perfecting Your Product's Positioning

    en-usAugust 20, 2024
    What is effective positioning in marketing?
    How does positioning affect customer perception?
    Who should be involved in creating positioning?
    What mistakes do companies make in positioning?
    Why is positioning important for B2B marketing?

    Podcast Summary

    • Product PositioningEffective product positioning transforms a product's trajectory by defining how it's the best in the world at delivering specific value to a targeted audience, shaping consumer perception and expectations.

      Effective positioning is a strategic approach that goes beyond marketing exercises and can significantly transform a product's trajectory. Positioning defines how a product is the best in the world at delivering a specific value to a well-defined set of customers. It sets the context for customers, helping them understand what a product is, what it's about, and why they should care. April Dunforth, an expert in product positioning, uses the example of a muffin labeled as such instead of a cake to illustrate this concept. Despite the product being the same, the context, competitors, and assumptions about it change, affecting its value and customer perception. Misconceptions about positioning include thinking it's just messaging or a tagline, or that it's the same as branding. However, positioning is the foundation upon which the marketing and sales house is built. Companies that don't think about positioning at all often face confusion when their product's identity evolves, and they struggle to adapt. Positioning shapes the environment in the consumer's mind, helping them draw comparisons and know what to expect.

    • Market positioningEffective market positioning saves resources and sets accurate assumptions for customers, while poor positioning requires additional clarification work. Identifying and dominating underserved sub-segments can lead to business expansion and success.

      Effective positioning in a market category can save time, energy, and resources for businesses by setting off accurate assumptions in customers' minds about their product. However, poor positioning can lead to incorrect assumptions and additional work for marketing and sales to clarify. Companies can successfully position themselves by identifying and dominating underserved sub-segments of larger markets, allowing them to expand and challenge market leaders over time. This strategy can be seen as shrinking the target market or ecosystem to gain an advantage and then expanding from there. This approach is common in technology companies and can lead to intuitive and successful business strategies.

    • Long-term vision and positioningHaving a clear long-term vision and compelling positioning is crucial for securing funding and growing a business. Positioning involves defining where you win and being the best in a specific market, even if it's small at first. Understanding and delivering unique value to customers is essential in both B2B and B2C markets.

      When it comes to starting a business and securing funding, having a clear and compelling long-term vision is crucial. Investors want to see a path to becoming a billion-dollar business, even if that's not the immediate goal. Great positioning involves defining where you win and being the best in a specific market, even if it's small at first. Companies like Salesforce have succeeded by starting small and expanding their market share. The difference between B2B and B2C positioning lies in the value proposition. In B2B, the focus is on helping businesses make or save money, and the decision-making process involves multiple stakeholders with significant fear of making a poor choice. This creates a strong advantage for established market leaders, making it challenging for new competitors. In contrast, consumer positioning often revolves around invoking emotions and signaling success or luxury. However, in both cases, understanding and delivering unique value to customers is essential.

    • Product PositioningEffective product positioning involves understanding the buyer's perspective and catering to their specific needs, rather than competing in a broad market or against market giants.

      Successful product positioning is crucial in business decisions, especially when it comes to software products. Positioning a product effectively is not just about highlighting its features but understanding the buyer's perspective and positioning it against competitors. The mistake of competing in too big a market or not positioning deliberately can lead to failure. A classic example is a company that built a revolutionary database but failed to sell it because they positioned it as a new database, competing against market giants like Oracle. Instead, they should have repositioned it as a data warehouse, catering to a specific market segment with a particular need for speed. For startups, identifying pain points through customer discovery and validating assumptions early on is essential to better position their product. However, even with customer discovery, it's important to remember that customers may not always tell the truth or may change their minds, so startups must be prepared to pivot and adapt.

    • Product Positioning in B2B MarketingUnderstanding competitive landscape, highlighting differentiated capabilities, communicating unique value proposition, and identifying target audience are crucial for effective product positioning in B2B marketing. Quickly capturing attention and resonating with the target audience is essential for success.

      Effective product positioning in B2B marketing requires understanding the competitive landscape, highlighting differentiated capabilities, communicating the unique value proposition, and identifying the target audience. Positioning is crucial in today's digital world, where customers are exposed to countless choices and messages. Companies must clearly articulate what their product offers, who it's for, and why it's different from competitors. The key is to resonate with the target audience and help them understand the value of the features, rather than just listing them. This can be challenging in B2B, as the buyer might not be the website visitor, but the ability to quickly capture their attention and communicate the unique value proposition is essential for success.

    • Positioning assessmentEffective positioning is crucial for business success and involves cross-functional collaboration between product, marketing, sales, customer success, and support. Sales conversations with customers provide valuable insights, and storytelling plays a role in effective positioning. Confusion at the beginning of the sales process and lack of happy customers can indicate a positioning issue.

      Effective positioning is crucial for business success, and it's not just a marketing function. Weak positioning can lead to customer confusion, miscomparisons, and even questioning the value of a product or service. To assess positioning, sales conversations with customers are a valuable source of information. Positioning should be determined through a cross-functional team effort involving product, marketing, sales, customer success, and support. Marketing can be the steward of the positioning, but all functions should be involved in its creation and execution. Storytelling plays a role in effective positioning, but sales teams may be more effective at delivering stories to customers. To determine if a problem is a positioning issue or not, consider if there are happy customers and if there's confusion at the beginning of the sales process. Positioning is just one aspect of business success, and addressing other potential issues, such as sales execution, can also be important.

    • B2B storytelling with competition acknowledgementEffective B2B storytelling involves acknowledging competitors and alternative solutions to help customers understand the market landscape and make informed decisions. Defining a unique perspective and coining terms can differentiate companies in emerging markets.

      Effective B2B storytelling goes beyond the traditional hero's journey framework and includes acknowledging competitors and alternative solutions. This approach helps customers understand the market landscape and confidently make informed decisions. By defining a unique perspective on the market and coining terms, companies can differentiate themselves, especially in emerging markets where clear vocabulary is lacking. CEOs and founders play a crucial role in communicating this point of view to customers, taking them on a journey to understand the problem from a new angle and ultimately, choosing the right solution.

    • Customer perspective, product positioningIn emerging markets, help customers become problem-aware before offering solutions and educate independent bodies about your product. Effective B2B marketing requires deep understanding of customers' needs, buying committee, and market challenges.

      Understanding your customers' perspective and positioning your product effectively in their market is crucial for success. In emerging markets, it's essential to help customers become problem-aware before offering solutions. Independent bodies like industry analysts or service providers can significantly influence buyers, so it's vital to educate them about your product. Mistakes in positioning include neglecting it altogether, treating it as a marketing exercise, or attempting to create a new category when you fit into an existing one. Schools often get B2B marketing wrong by applying consumer marketing principles directly, but B2B purchases involve higher stakes and more complex decision-making processes. Effective B2B marketing requires a deep understanding of your customers' needs, the buying committee, and the unique challenges of your market.

    • B2B buyer inertiaUp to 60% of B2B purchasing processes end without a decision due to customer uncertainty, emphasizing the importance for B2B marketers to focus on reducing risk and uncertainty for potential customers.

      In B2B marketing, the biggest competitor is not other companies, but rather the decision to do nothing. According to research by Matt Dixon in "The Jolt Effect," up to 60% of B2B purchasing processes end without a decision. This isn't due to customers being satisfied with their current solutions, but rather their inability to determine which option is the least risky. Understanding this challenge can help B2B marketers approach sales cycles differently and focus on alleviating customer uncertainty. Additionally, identifying and focusing on one's area of expertise and strengths can lead to greater success and satisfaction in one's career.

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    (49:14) On technology and social media
    (51:03) Schools should "never" have gotten involved in mental health
    (54:43) Did COVID accelerate "bad therapy?"
    (56:07) How to return to normalcy
    (58:21) Why Shane shares negative YouTube comments with his kids
    (01:01:23) Shrier's experience being "cancelled"
    (01:04:13) On prestige media
    (01:07:47) Small steps parents can take to return to normal
    (01:11:02) Dealing with schools saying one thing and parents saying another
    (01:13:32) Why is the silent majority...silent?
    (01:16:32) If this continues, what happens?
    (01:18:19) What makes someone a successful parent?

    #193: Dr. Jim Loehr: Change the Stories You Tell Yourself

    #193: Dr. Jim Loehr: Change the Stories You Tell Yourself

    What if reaching the next level of success wasn't determined by another skill, degree, or course but by something that changed on the inside?

    That's what Dr. Jim Loehr believes, and in this episode, he reveals everything he knows about mental toughness and winning the mind game. Shane and Loehr discuss the radical importance of the stories you tell yourself—including how they can damage your kids—and how to change the negative stories you believe. Loehr also shares the best reflection questions to ask yourself to reveal personal blindspots, the importance of rituals for calming anxiety and performing under pressure, and how the best in the world use their recovery time effectively.

    Dr. Jim Loehr is a world-renowned performance psychologist and author of 16 books. From his more than 30 years of experience and applied research, Dr. Loehr believes the single most important factor in successful achievement, personal fulfillment, and life satisfaction is the strength of one’s character. Dr. Loehr possesses a masters and doctorate in psychology and is a full member of the American Psychological Association.

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    (00:00) Intro

    (03:20) Parenting and storytelling

    (06:15) How to determine whether or not the stories are limiting or enabling you

    (08:41) What the stories world-class performers tell themselves

    (15:02) How to change the stories you tell yourself

    (23:26) Questions to journal about

    (26:16) Private voices vs. public voices (and how they impact your kids)

    (31:32) How to help your friends change their stories

    (37:30) How to better come alongside your kids to prevent destructive behavior

    (44:48) - (45:06) What Loehr knows about high performers that others miss

    (53:12) On time and energy

    (01:06:26) Conquering the "between point" ritual

    (01:11:50) On rituals vs. habits

    (01:15:54) How to increase your mental toughness

    (01:23:51) On success