Podcast Summary
Understanding the root causes of chronic diseases through food: Focus on real food to protect the liver and feed the gut, avoid sugar-sweetened and diet drinks, and be aware of harmful types of fat gain.
We are currently undergoing a healthcare revolution, shifting our focus from a reliance on antibiotics and pills to prioritizing diet and overall health. Dr. Robert Lustig, a leading public health expert and professor of pediatric endocrinology at the University of California, emphasizes that chronic diseases, such as obesity, diabetes, and heart disease, are primarily caused by the foods we consume. In his latest book, "Metabolical," he introduces the concept of the "hateful eight" root causes of chronic disease and explains how food impacts each one. Excess sugar consumption can be damaging, leading to liver issues and ultimately sickness. The answer to chronic disease, according to Dr. Lustig, lies in real food. To improve our health and well-being, we should focus on protecting the liver and feeding the gut. Additionally, sugar-sweetened and diet drinks can be detrimental to our health, and we should be aware of different types of fat gain, particularly visceral and liver fat, which can be harmful even if not immediately noticeable. Overall, this conversation offers practical tips for improving our health and empowering us to make positive changes in our lives.
Sugar in Ultra-processed Foods Poisons Mitochondria: Ultra-processed foods containing sugar hinder energy production in our bodies by damaging mitochondria, leading to chronic diseases. Consume whole, real foods instead.
Ultra-processed foods, which contain large amounts of sugar, inhibit the production of ATP (energy) in our bodies by poisoning our mitochondria. This is because sugar poisons three enzymes necessary for mitochondria to function properly. As a result, consuming sugar reduces the chemical energy available to our cells and inhibits our body's energy production. Ultra-processed foods, which make up a significant portion of many diets, do not contribute to either the growth or burning of an organism as they inhibit both processes. Despite this evidence, the food industry, governments, and many people continue to resist acknowledging the negative effects of ultra-processed foods on health. To mitigate chronic diseases, it is crucial to encourage and promote the consumption of real, whole foods that contribute to the growth and burning of an organism.
Normalization of ultra-processed food consumption leads to health issues: The shift to ultra-processed foods in the mid-1960s, driven by high fructose corn syrup and low-fat diets, has led to children consuming more sugar than before, contributing to chronic ill health. The normalization of these foods makes it hard for those seeking healthier options to avoid feeling socially isolated.
The normalization of ultra-processed food consumption is a major contributor to chronic ill health, both in the UK and the US. This shift from real food diets to processed food began in the mid-1960s and accelerated in the 1970s with the introduction of high fructose corn syrup and the push for low-fat diets. The result is that children today are consuming significantly more sugar than in the past, often multiple times a day instead of once a week. This normalization of ultra-processed food has made it difficult for those who want to eat healthier to do so without feeling socially isolated. The debate over whether it's the sugar itself or the excess amounts that's harmful is ongoing, but the consensus is that the current level of consumption is unsustainable and detrimental to our health.
Excessive consumption of alcohol and sugar damages the liver through different processes: Excessive alcohol consumption harms the liver via the first pass effect, while sugar damages it through intestinal de novo lipogenesis. Both processes aim to protect the liver but can lead to chronic diseases if the intestines' capacity is exceeded.
Both alcohol and sugar, when consumed in excess, can cause damage to the liver through a process called the first pass effect for alcohol and intestinal de novo lipogenesis for sugar. These processes protect the liver to some extent by metabolizing the substances before they reach the liver, but if the capacity of the intestines is exceeded, the liver becomes the primary site for metabolism, leading to chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer, and insulin resistance. This phenomenon was a major revelation for Dr. Robert Lustig, a pediatrician, who witnessed the health consequences of this process in children with brain tumors who became obese due to hypothalamic damage. Despite the challenges in treating these conditions, Dr. Lustig's passion for understanding the root causes of chronic metabolic diseases led him to challenge the status quo in modern medicine.
Children with brain tumors and damaged hypothalamus gain weight due to leptin resistance and high insulin levels: Discovering that weight gain in children with brain tumors and damaged hypothalamus is a primary symptom caused by leptin resistance and high insulin levels, rather than secondary to behavioral issues, challenges the traditional understanding of weight gain and opens new possibilities for treatment.
In children with brain tumors and damaged hypothalamus, their brains think they're starving due to leptin resistance, leading to high insulin levels and obligate weight gain. This means that the weight gain is a primary issue, and the lack of energy and interest in activities are secondary symptoms. By suppressing insulin release with medication, children were able to lose weight and regain interest in activities, turning the traditional understanding of the first law of thermodynamics on its head. This discovery is monumental as it challenges the common belief that weight gain is secondary to behavioral issues, and instead, suggests that sickness comes before weight gain.
Fructose metabolized similarly to alcohol: Fructose, a common sugar, contributes to type 2 diabetes and fatty liver disease by being metabolized similarly to alcohol in the body
Fructose, a common sugar found in many foods, is metabolized similarly to alcohol in the body and is a significant contributor to the development of type 2 diabetes and fatty liver disease. This realization came to Dr. Robert Lustig during his talk at the NIH in 2006, which was met with shock and excitement from toxicologists in the audience. Prior to this, it was believed that environmental toxins were the primary causes of these diseases. However, Dr. Lustig's research revealed that fructose, which is metabolized identically to alcohol after the initial step, is the common denominator for these conditions. This discovery led Dr. Lustig to shift the focus of his clinic from weight loss to insulin reduction, and it has since transformed the lives of many of his patients.
Investing in Health: VivoBarefoot Shoes and Leafyard App: VivoBarefoot shoes promote natural movement and comfort, while Leafyard app uses behavioral science for mental fitness. Stay informed about industry manipulations for better health.
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Underlying Causes of Chronic Diseases: The Hateful Eight: Understanding and addressing the 'hateful eight' causes - glycation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction, insulin resistance, membrane instability, inflammation, methylation, and autophagy - can prevent and reduce various chronic diseases, potentially saving healthcare costs and improving overall health.
Many chronic diseases, including type 2 diabetes, hypertension, dyslipidemia, cardiovascular disease, cancer, dementia, fatty liver disease, and polycystic ovarian disease, are not truly distinct conditions but rather manifestations of underlying causes. These causes, referred to as the "hateful eight," include glycation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction, insulin resistance, membrane instability, inflammation, methylation, and autophagy. These phenomena can be influenced by what we eat and, when not in balance, can lead to various chronic diseases. The speaker argues that focusing on preventing and addressing these root causes rather than just treating symptoms could significantly reduce healthcare costs and improve overall health. However, the medical field is slow to adopt new ideas, making it challenging to implement this approach.
Modern medicine focuses on managing symptoms rather than addressing root causes: Modern medicine's focus on managing symptoms of chronic diseases through medication overlooks the importance of addressing root causes, such as inflammation, insulin resistance, and oxidative stress, which are influenced by our modern food environment and can lead to suffering and strain on healthcare systems.
The current approach to treating chronic diseases through medication is like trying to mop up water from a leaking roof instead of fixing the root cause. The eight processes discussed in the book, which include inflammation, insulin resistance, oxidative stress, and others, are either promoting health or causing illness. While medications can help manage symptoms, they don't address the underlying issues. The modern food environment, specifically the consumption of highly processed foods, is a major contributor to these chronic diseases. Ignoring this root cause can lead to suffering for individuals and strain on healthcare systems. The current focus on COVID-19 is a distraction, and data shows that mortality rates are higher in developed countries with access to processed foods rather than in third world countries with more traditional diets.
Factors increasing susceptibility to severe COVID-19 outcomes: People of color, obese individuals, and those with pre-existing conditions are at higher risk due to poor socioeconomic conditions, diets high in ultra-processed foods, and increased ACE2 receptors from high insulin levels and high blood glucose.
The demographics most at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes - people of color, the obese, and those with pre-existing conditions - share common factors such as poor socioeconomic conditions and diets high in ultra-processed foods. The virus targets a receptor on cells called ACE2, and high insulin levels from processed food consumption increase the number of these receptors, making individuals more susceptible to infection. Additionally, high blood glucose from poor diets can crystallize around ACE2s, making it easier for the virus to enter cells. Short chain fatty acids from fiber consumption, found in real food, help improve the cytokine response and minimize the damaging effects of the virus. Unfortunately, ultra-processed foods are devoid of fiber and high in sugar, contributing to chronic diseases and making it difficult for individuals to manage their cytokine response effectively. The food industry normalizes the consumption of processed foods, making it essential to educate individuals on the difference between real and processed foods and the importance of a healthy, fiber-rich diet.
Involving parents in children's healthy eating: Parents play a key role in children's diabetes management through selecting, consuming, and teaching real, whole foods together.
For children with diabetes, involving parents in selecting and consuming real, whole foods together is crucial for successful management. This approach, known as "see one, do one, teach one," helps create a supportive environment for healthy eating habits. The term "real foods" refers to those that come directly from the earth or animals that consume earth-grown produce. The degree of processing is also important, with minimally processed foods being beneficial and highly processed foods, like apple pie, being associated with chronic diseases due to the addition of sugar and removal of fiber. These changes can overwhelm the liver's capacity to metabolize sugar, leading to fat production.
Protecting the liver and feeding the gut: Maintaining a balanced diet rich in whole, unprocessed foods, particularly those high in fiber, supports both liver and gut health, preventing various health issues like fatty liver, diabetes, and leaky gut.
Protecting the liver and feeding the gut are essential for maintaining good health. The modern food environment, with the excessive processing of food, can lead to an overload of sugar for the liver and a lack of fiber for the gut. This can result in various health issues, including fatty liver, diabetes, insulin resistance, leaky gut, inflammatory bowel disease, irritable bowel syndrome, immune disease, food allergies, Alzheimer's, and depression. Therefore, it's crucial to prioritize a diet rich in whole, unprocessed foods, particularly those high in fiber, to support the health of both the liver and the gut. There is no one-size-fits-all diet, and vegan, low carb, or other diets can fit this maxim as long as they prioritize real, unprocessed foods. Ultimately, the goal is to create a balanced diet that supports the health of both the liver and the gut.
Diets vary, but healthy diets share common elements: Focus on low sugar, high fiber whole foods, like those in vegan or ketogenic diets. Processing can impact fiber's health benefits, so consider whole fruits over juiced or blended versions.
There is no one-size-fits-all diet, and individual responses to different diets can vary greatly. The key elements of healthy diets are low sugar and high fiber, which can be found in various whole foods, including those in a vegan or ketogenic diet. However, the processing of foods, particularly the loss of insoluble fiber during juicing or blending, can impact their health benefits. The insoluble fiber forms a barrier in the gut, working with soluble fiber to prevent early absorption of sugars and prevent the liver from being overwhelmed. So, while apple juice still has some benefits due to the soluble fiber, it's important to consider the role of processing and fiber in maintaining a healthy diet.
Sweetened Beverages, Including Diet Drinks, Harm Health: Despite fiber content, apple juice harms liver; diet drinks don't aid weight loss, negatively affect microbiome, and may lead to fat deposition; water or healthier alternatives recommended.
While apple juice may be a better choice than soda due to its soluble fiber content, it still poses risks to liver health. Sweetened beverages, including diet drinks, have been shown to be detrimental to health, leading to numerous deaths each year. Contrary to popular belief, consuming diet drinks does not help with weight loss as the body compensates by increasing caloric intake elsewhere. Furthermore, certain diet sweeteners can negatively impact the microbiome and contribute to leaky gut, and fat cells have receptors for diet sweeteners, leading to potential fat deposition. The body has not adapted to artificial sweeteners as quickly as we have introduced them, and the precautionary principle suggests avoiding them in favor of water or other healthier alternatives. The toxicity of diet drinks may be half that of sugar-sweetened beverages, but the potential for excessive consumption makes them a concern.
Three types of body fat with distinct functions and health implications: Unhealthy amounts of liver fat, even in thin individuals, can lead to metabolic dysfunction, affecting 88% of Americans, often due to sugar or alcohol consumption. Regular blood tests can assess liver and overall health.
The scale doesn't tell the whole story when it comes to health and weight. Our bodies carry fat in three different depots – subcutaneous, visceral, and liver fat – each with distinct functions and health implications. While subcutaneous fat is metabolically inert and can store up to 10 kilos before causing issues, visceral fat, caused by stress, is metabolically active and can lead to insulin resistance with as little as five to six pounds. Liver fat, the most concerning, can cause metabolic dysfunction with just half a pound. Unfortunately, many people, even those considered thin, have unhealthy amounts of liver fat and don't realize it. Metabolic dysfunction affects 88% of Americans, often due to sugar or alcohol consumption. To address this, individuals should consider getting recommended blood tests to assess their liver and overall health.
Sugar's Impact on Ethnicities and Children: Sugar consumption can lead to health issues, including liver fat accumulation and behavioral problems, in all populations, including children. Parents should encourage healthy eating habits to prevent these consequences.
While it may seem that certain ethnicities or individuals may not be affected by unhealthy diets and high sugar intake, the reality is that they can still face serious health consequences, including liver fat accumulation and behavioral issues. Children are particularly vulnerable, as they are often given unhealthy options in restaurants and schools. The vicious cycle of sugar consumption can lead to a need for more sugar, and even non-obese children can have liver fat. It's important for parents to be aware of this and encourage healthy eating habits from a young age. Sugar not only affects weight, but it can also impact brain function and behavior, leading to issues such as irritability, violent behavior, and cognitive problems. It's crucial to limit sugar intake, including from sources like fruit juices and roasted foods, to promote overall health and well-being.
Shifting focus from symptoms to root causes in healthcare: Doctors advocate for diet's importance in healthcare, but this shift can face resistance and controversy, requiring a reevaluation of established health beliefs.
The current approach to healthcare and modern medicine is undergoing a significant revolution. The focus is shifting from treating symptoms to addressing the root causes of health issues, particularly the importance of diet. Many doctors, including the guest on this podcast, Robert Lustig, have been advocating for this change. However, this shift can be met with resistance and controversy. Some doctors have even faced trials for challenging established health beliefs. This transformation requires rethinking our understanding of health and healthcare, and recognizing that much of what we've known may not be entirely accurate. The importance of diet in maintaining good health cannot be overstated, and it's crucial to continue questioning and learning to improve overall well-being.