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    276 | Gavin Schmidt on Measuring, Predicting, and Protecting Our Climate

    enMay 20, 2024

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    • Evidence for Climate Change is Clear and Human Activities are the Primary CauseRenowned climatologist Gavin Schmidt explains the clear evidence for climate change and how human activities, specifically greenhouse gas emissions, are the primary cause.

      Climate change is a pressing issue that is affecting the planet in numerous ways, from rising temperatures and sea levels to extreme weather events. Gavin Schmidt, a renowned climatologist and director of NASA's Goddard Institute For Space Studies, emphasizes that the evidence for climate change is clear and that human activities, particularly our emissions of greenhouse gases, are the primary cause. Despite the complexity of the climate system, scientists have been able to successfully predict and understand why it is changing. It's important for individuals to support the ongoing research and engage in productive discussions about policy and politics related to climate change. Overall, this episode of Mindscape promises to be an enlightening and insightful discussion on this crucial topic.

    • Predicting Climate Trends with ModelsClimate models effectively predict global trends and patterns, but have challenges with precise predictions of sea level rise, rainforest tipping points, and other detailed questions.

      Despite the complexity of the climate system, climate models have proven to be effective in predicting global trends and patterns, even with some remaining challenges. Temperature is a three-dimensional field that can be averaged to obtain a meaningful global or regional temperature measurement. The climate models, developed since the 1980s, have shown remarkable skill in predicting global mean temperatures, patterns of temperature change, and impacts on rainfall. However, there are still open questions regarding the precise prediction of sea level rise, tipping points of rainforest systems, and other detailed questions. The climate is complex, but the models have shown that they can extract the signal from the noise and provide valuable insights into the changing climate. The big question of why the climate is changing now, compared to a century ago, has been answered by the models, and the models continue to be a fascinating area of scientific exploration.

    • Understanding Climate Change: Attractor Shift, Not PositionMost climate change isn't about our position on the climate attractor, but rather the attractor's shift in space. Temperature comparisons are complex due to measurement evolution, but reliable data exists since 1979.

      While there are complexities and nonlinearities in the climate system that were not fully captured in early models, the simple heuristic model of energy coming in from the sun and heat going out still provides a good understanding of the bulk issues. The climate problem is not about where we are on the attractor, but rather where the attractor is in space. Most of the observed climate change is due to the attractor shifting, not our lack of knowledge about our position on it. When considering temperature changes, it's important to understand that methods for measuring temperature have evolved over time, making comparisons between different eras less straightforward. However, we have reliable data going back to 1979, which marks the beginning of satellite temperature records. Despite the complexities, the basic heuristic model of the climate system remains a valuable tool for understanding the bigger picture.

    • Exploring Climate History Through Alternative SourcesAlternative methods like studying corals, caves, and ice cores provide valuable climate information from the past, even when high-resolution data is scarce. Large climate signals can still be detected despite uncertainties, such as the 3-degree warming during the Pliocene and the 8-degree warming during the Cretaceous.

      While instrumental records of temperature data go back to the mid-19th century, high-resolution data is scarce before that. However, alternative methods such as studying corals, caves, and ice cores provide valuable information. The further back in time we go, the bigger the climate signals become, despite the increased uncertainty. For instance, 20,000 years ago, Baltimore was a tundra coastal plain, while Manhattan was still under a kilometer of ice. Temperature differences were significant, with an average of 5-6 degrees Celsius colder than today. Despite the uncertainties, large signals can still be detected, such as the 3-degree warming during the Pliocene and the 8-degree warming during the Cretaceous. It's important to remember that climate change is not a new phenomenon, and understanding its history can help us better prepare for the future.

    • Understanding Past Climate Conditions with ForaminiferaThe discovery of isotope systems and analysis of foraminifera shells reveal Earth's climate has undergone shifts throughout history, but the current rate of change is much faster than anything seen before, posing a challenge for understanding and adapting to climate change impacts.

      The current rate of environmental change is unprecedented in the historical fossil record. While there have been significant events like the KT impact and sea level rise, most geological processes took thousands to millions of years to occur. However, the discovery of isotope systems and the analysis of carbonate shells from single-celled organisms called foraminifera have allowed scientists to better understand past climate conditions and temperatures. This research has revealed that the Earth's climate has undergone significant shifts throughout history, but the current rate of change is much faster than anything seen before. This poses a significant challenge for understanding and adapting to the impacts of climate change.

    • Study of ancient water temperatures reveals 30 million year climate change cycleMilankovic's hypothesis of Earth's orbit and sun's energy causing climate change was validated by improved dating methods, revealing 100,000-year, 400,000-year, and 1,000,000-year cycles. Recent ice core findings show temperature and greenhouse gas levels have been linked since ancient times.

      The study of ancient water temperatures from various locations around the globe has provided a consistent story of climate change over the past 30 million years. This discovery was aided by the work of Milankovic, a physicist who developed a hypothesis for climate change based on the Earth's orbit and sun's energy. Initially, the theory seemed to not fit due to inaccurate dating, but once scientists improved their dating methods, they found that Milankovic's hypothesis was correct. The climate's changes were found to have a 100,000-year cycle, a 400,000-year cycle, and a 1,000,000-year cycle. More recently, ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica have given us a record of not only temperatures but also greenhouse gas levels, revealing that they have gone hand in hand until very recently. Greenhouse gases refer to natural gases in the atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to the planet's temperature. This discovery has provided valuable insights into the Earth's climate history and the role of natural and human-induced greenhouse gases in shaping our planet's climate.

    • Greenhouse gases and temperatureGreenhouse gases trap heat and maintain Earth's temperature, while the ratio of oxygen isotopes in the atmosphere can reveal past temperatures

      The abundance of greenhouse gases like water vapor, methane, and carbon dioxide, which contain more complex atoms, plays a crucial role in keeping the Earth's surface warmer by absorbing infrared radiation. Another interesting fact is that the ratio of oxygen isotopes in the atmosphere, specifically oxygen 18 to oxygen 16, depends on temperature due to the water cycle. When water evaporates, lighter atoms are more easily evaporated, leaving behind the heavier ones. As water moves towards the poles and gets colder, more of the heavier oxygen 18 isotopes rain out, resulting in a lower ratio in the snow that forms ice cores. By measuring this ratio, scientists can create a crude thermometer, providing valuable information about past temperatures.

    • Studying isotopes in natural systems provides insights into past temperatures and climate conditionsIsotope records from natural systems like plankton and cave records can reveal valuable information about past temperatures and climate conditions, allowing for better understanding of complex climate interactions and improved climate modeling.

      The study of isotopes, particularly oxygen 18, in various natural systems like plankton and cave records, can provide valuable information about past temperatures and climate conditions. This is because the formation of carbonates involves the condensation of dissolved carbonate and bicarbonate from water, which makes it easier to produce carbonate with heavier oxygen isotopes when temperatures are higher. By studying these isotope records, scientists can create models to simulate the interaction between climate and isotopes, allowing for a better understanding of past climate conditions and the complexities of global climate modeling. The sun, which is the primary source of energy in the Earth's system, interacts with the atmosphere in complex ways, and climate models must take into account various components of solar radiation, including visible light, near infrared, and ultraviolet, to accurately represent the Earth's climate system.

    • Tracking the Sun's Energy Interactions with Earth's AtmosphereUnderstanding Earth's climate requires studying the sun's energy interactions with components like water vapor, greenhouse gases, and particles, leading to complex reactions and temperature changes. This data is used to calculate radiative processes and atmospheric motion, impacting wind patterns and water cycling.

      Understanding Earth's climate involves tracking the sun's energy as it interacts with various components of the atmosphere and Earth's surface. This includes water vapor, greenhouse gases, ozone, clouds, and particles. The energy is absorbed, reflected, or scattered, leading to complex chemical reactions and temperature changes. This information is used to calculate radiative processes and atmospheric motion, influencing wind patterns and water cycling. The process is simplified by studying the atmosphere in columns rather than individual points and solving equations efficiently. While the sun provides most of the energy, other sources like car emissions also contribute. Astrophysicists studying stars and supernovae face similar challenges but with added complexities like magnetohydrodynamics and difficulty accessing information from the core.

    • Heat from cities, volcanoes, and human activities contribute little to Earth's energy budget compared to solar radiation and greenhouse gasesSolar radiation is the major contributor to Earth's energy budget, while human activities and natural heat sources like volcanoes make up a small fraction. However, the imbalance caused by greenhouse gases is the primary driver of complex weather patterns.

      While the heat generated by cities and volcanoes, as well as waste heat from human activities, contribute to the Earth's energy budget, they are relatively small compared to the average absorbed solar radiation and the forcing caused by the increase in greenhouse gases. The average absorbed solar radiation is about 240 watts per meter squared, while the heat generated by volcanoes and radioactive decay is only about 0.5 watts per meter squared. Human activities, which use approximately 15 terawatts of energy, also result in a small contribution to the Earth's energy budget when divided by the planet's surface area. However, the changes in greenhouse gases have resulted in a significant energy imbalance, with more energy coming in, but less energy being able to escape to space. This imbalance, which is roughly 2.5 watts per meter squared, is the primary driver of the currents and nonlinearities, or teleconnections, in the atmosphere that can lead to complex weather patterns.

    • Impacts of climate patterns in the tropical Pacific on weather and climateClimate patterns like El Niño and La Nina cause shifts in temperature and precipitation, leading to more extreme weather events and greater variability in weather conditions. The mean temperature is increasing, but the variance may not be, leading to more frequent extreme temperatures.

      Climate patterns in the tropical Pacific, such as El Niño and La Nina, can have significant impacts on weather and climate thousands of miles away. These events cause shifts in temperature and precipitation patterns, leading to more frequent extreme weather events and greater variability in weather conditions. While the global temperature has been increasing almost everywhere since the 1970s, it's not just the mean temperature that's changing, but also the distribution of temperatures. This means that certain places are experiencing fewer cold days and more warm days, leading to less cold weather outbreaks and more warm outbreaks. Additionally, the number of days with temperatures above 90 and 100 degrees has been increasing for the past 4 to 5 decades, with the most recent year being particularly hot. However, it's important to note that while the mean temperature has been changing, the variance, or the amount of change in temperature from day to day, has not been definitively proven to be increasing. Instead, the distributions of temperatures have shifted, leading to more frequent extreme weather events. Overall, the complex relationship between global temperature change and local weather patterns highlights the importance of continued research and monitoring to better understand and adapt to the impacts of climate change.

    • Uncertainty in Future Temperature PredictionsDespite long-term trends and historical patterns, recent years have shown significant deviations from predicted temperatures, with 10 consecutive record-breaking months and the cause uncertain due to various factors such as solar cycles, volcanic eruptions, or pollution levels.

      While long-term trends and historical patterns have been useful in predicting global temperatures, recent years have shown significant deviations from these predictions. For instance, last year's temperature records were not only broken but also shattered by larger margins than expected. The causes of this discrepancy are still uncertain and could be due to various factors such as solar cycles, volcanic eruptions, or changes in pollution levels. Despite ongoing research, a definitive answer is not yet available, making the future temperature predictions uncertain and disquieting. Moreover, the past 10 months have seen 10 consecutive record-breaking global temperature months, with March being the latest addition. However, it is anticipated that the El Nino phenomenon in the tropical Pacific, which contributed to the recent temperature surge, will fade away, leading to a potential change in temperature trends.

    • Unexpected weather patterns challenging climate scienceScientists are questioning climate models due to record-breaking temperatures not following historical patterns, emphasizing the importance of physics understanding over empirical data.

      The recent unexpected weather patterns, including record-breaking temperatures, are causing scientists to question previously reliable empirical correlations in climate science. The anomalous temperatures last year occurred in August, September, and October instead of the usual February and March following an El Nino event. This deviation from historical patterns has shaken scientists' confidence in their models and highlights the importance of understanding the underlying physics rather than relying solely on empirical data. The field has made progress in recent decades, but it took several decades to accurately calibrate paleo thermometers and develop more complex models based on fundamental physics. Despite the uncertainty, the overall trend of global warming remains, with an estimated 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming since pre-industrial times. However, the exact timing and crossing of this threshold is uncertain.

    • Despite progress, world is still far from net 0 emissionsThough there's progress in reducing emissions and transitioning to renewable energy, more needs to be done to reach net 0 emissions and stop global warming. Technological advancements offer hope, but action is needed to build climate resilience, adapt, and mitigate impacts.

      While there are promising signs of progress towards reducing greenhouse gas emissions and transitioning to renewable energy sources, the world is still far from achieving net 0 emissions needed to stop global warming. Temperatures will continue to rise as long as we continue to add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. The retirement of fossil fuel plants is not being effectively replaced with renewable energy, and Bitcoin mining is even buying up these plants for energy-intensive operations. However, there are promising technological advancements, such as energy efficiency improvements and the rise of electric vehicles and cargo bikes. Cities are becoming more livable with decreasing pollution levels and more space for pedestrians. The cost of renewable energy is decreasing and investment is increasing, giving reason for optimism. However, more needs to be done to build climate resilience, adapt to the changing climate, and mitigate its impacts. It's important to continue pushing for improvements and making informed decisions to minimize further damage.

    • Addressing climate change through technological fixesDespite hypothetical solutions like sulfate release to cool the atmosphere, focusing on reducing emissions and transitioning to renewable energy is the most effective and sustainable long-term solution to mitigate climate change. Individuals can also make a difference by adopting eco-friendly habits and advocating for systemic change.

      While there are hypothetical technological fixes for the atmosphere, such as actively intervening to lower the greenhouse effect, the challenges and potential consequences of implementing such solutions are significant. For instance, one proposed solution is to put sulfates into the stratosphere to cool the atmosphere, but this would require constant upkeep and international cooperation, which may not be feasible due to geopolitical crises and other uncertainties. Moreover, any disruption to the implementation of these solutions could lead to catastrophic consequences. Therefore, it is essential to focus on reducing emissions and transitioning to renewable energy sources as the most effective and sustainable long-term solutions to mitigate climate change. Additionally, individuals can make a difference by adopting eco-friendly habits, supporting climate-conscious policies, and advocating for systemic change.

    • Using knowledge to make a differenceScientists can provide hope through knowledge, wear multiple hats in society, and use their voices and actions to make a difference.

      As scientists, we may not be obligated to give people hope, but the knowledge we provide can offer a sense of control and agency in the face of global issues like climate change. We all wear multiple hats in society, and we can use our voices and actions beyond personal choices to make a difference. The joy of being a scientist comes from making useful predictions, but it's not satisfying when those predictions bring unwelcome news. We live with the dichotomy of using our knowledge to predict and prevent, while also being emotionally invested in the outcomes.

    • The Power of Scientific KnowledgeScientific knowledge inspires action beyond predictions. Sharing it can prevent predictions from coming true.

      Key takeaway from this conversation with Dr. Schmidt is that the role of a scientist today goes beyond making predictions; it's about communicating those predictions and inspiring action. Dr. Schmidt expressed his frustration with the sense of helplessness that comes with predicting climate change, but also emphasized the importance of sharing knowledge to prevent those predictions from coming true. He hopes that this conversation might inspire listeners to take action and contribute to solving the issue. Despite his mixed feelings about discussing climate change, Dr. Schmidt remains optimistic that this episode could make a difference. In essence, the power of scientific knowledge lies not just in its accuracy, but in its ability to motivate change.

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    Blog post with transcript: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2024/05/20/276-gavin-schmidt-on-measuring-predicting-and-protecting-our-climate/

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    252 | Hannah Ritchie on Keeping Hope for the Planet Alive

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    Our planet and its environment are in bad shape, in all sorts of ways. Those of us who want to improve the situation face a dilemma. On the one hand, we have to be forceful and clear-headed about how the bad the situation actually is. On the other, we don't want to give the impression that things are so bad that it's hopeless. That could -- and, empirically, does -- give people the impression that there's no point in working to make things better. Hannah Ritchie is an environmental researcher at Our World in Data who wants to thread this needle: things are bad, but there are ways we can work to make them better.

    Blog post with transcript: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/10/02/252-hannah-ritchie-on-keeping-hope-for-the-planet-alive/

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    Hannah Ritchie received her Ph.D. in geosciences from the University of Edinburgh. She is currently Senior Researcher and the Head of Research at Our World in Data, and a researcher at the Oxford Martin Programme in Global Development at the University of Oxford. Her upcoming book is Not the End of the World: How We Can Be the First Generation to Build a Sustainable Planet.


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    Water Under Pressure: Growing Demand (S2 Ep 4)

    Water Under Pressure: Growing Demand (S2 Ep 4)

    The need to use every drop of water – multiple times over – matters. In Colorado, 80% of the precipitation falls on the western side of the continental divide, but 90% of the population lives to the east, in the Front Range. As the urban corridor continues to grow rapidly, the need for water is even more urgent. And often that water is coming from somewhere else. 

    This time on Water, Under Pressure, the Front Range of Colorado perspective. What are the water needs of a growing city? And is water from the San Luis Valley really the only solution? 

    Water, Under Pressure is a podcast about the increasing demands on water in Colorado. And how the choices we make now could tear us apart or help us to navigate our uncertain future.

    Learn more about the podcast and people featured at waterunderpressure.org

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