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    #28 - Mark and Chris Bell: steroids, powerlifting, addiction, diet, training, helping others, documentaries, and living your best life

    enNovember 12, 2018

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    • The power of Mark and Chris Bell's vulnerability in their documentaries to inspire and motivate others.Mark and Chris Bell's documentaries and personal stories have the ability to encourage individuals to address their drug problems, pursue their goals, and strive to be more than average.

      Mark and Chris Bell's journey and vulnerability in their documentaries have had a profound impact on people's lives. Despite not being interested in powerlifting or strength training, their stories are still captivating and relatable. Their films, such as "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" and "Prescription Thugs," have inspired individuals to take action and make positive changes in their own lives. They have encouraged people to address their drug problems, pursue their goals, and strive to be more than just an average person. Additionally, the Bell brothers' parents are portrayed as incredibly lovable, further adding to their charm and relatability. The key takeaway is that their documentaries and personal stories have the power to motivate and inspire others.

    • The Power of Honesty and Authenticity in StorytellingHonesty and authenticity are crucial in storytelling. By studying and being inspired by other successful works, collaborating with the right people, and approaching filmmaking with empathy, filmmakers can create impactful narratives that resonate with viewers.

      Honesty and authenticity are essential in storytelling. Mark Bell emphasizes the importance of finding the best people for a project and being inspired by their work. When making a documentary about steroids, he studied and adapted the style of an Oscar-winning documentary, "Bowling for Columbine." He also brought in people who worked on that movie to contribute to his own film. Mark Bell believes in telling the real story and being honest, even if it means discussing controversial topics or conflicting opinions. By approaching filmmaking with empathy and an open mind, he creates a powerful and relatable narrative that resonates with viewers. Ultimately, the most effective films are those that embrace honesty and showcase genuine emotions and experiences.

    • Empathy and understanding: the keys to productive conversationsApproach difficult topics with empathy, respect, and a genuine desire to understand. Focus on creating a dialogue rather than winning an argument, fostering a more inclusive society.

      Approaching difficult topics with empathy and understanding can lead to more productive and meaningful conversations. By not immediately challenging someone's beliefs or attacking them personally, we can create an environment where open and respectful dialogue can take place. It is important to remember that everyone is a human being with their own experiences and perspectives. Rather than focusing on winning an argument or proving someone wrong, we should aim for genuine understanding and learning. By maintaining civility and keeping the peace, we can continue to have intelligent conversations even after disagreements, fostering a more inclusive and empathetic society.

    • Challenging preconceived notions and uncovering the unexpected in thought and storytelling.Questioning inherited beliefs and analyzing information critically is crucial in forming an accurate understanding of topics and avoiding misconceptions.

      Our understanding of certain topics is often based on inherited opinions and myths, rather than thoughtful analysis and research. Peter Attia reflects on his perception of steroids, realizing that his opinion was shaped by passed down beliefs rather than personal examination. He emphasizes the importance of challenging preconceived notions and subjecting ourselves to the discomfort of thought. The conversation also highlights the unpredictable nature of filmmaking, where accidental discoveries and unplanned events can shape the narrative. It exposes the reality that industries and products may not always align with our assumptions, emphasizing the need to question and critically analyze the information presented to us. Additionally, it highlights the personal and emotional aspects that can be intertwined in investigative stories.

    • The Power of Support and HealingSupportive relationships and ongoing healing are essential for overcoming personal battles and achieving goals.

      Support and healing are crucial in overcoming personal battles and achieving goals. Mark Bell's father played a pivotal role in Mark's life, showing his deep care and concern for his well-being. In a moment of distress, Mark's father's anger and disappointment motivated Mark to change his path and ultimately saved his life. This highlights the powerful impact of parental support and the immense emotional weight of letting loved ones down. Furthermore, the conversation emphasizes that the journey towards success and personal growth is never complete. It requires ongoing healing, perseverance, and a strong support system. Mark's story serves as a reminder that through support, healing, and determination, individuals can overcome challenges and continue working towards their aspirations.

    • Navigating the Challenges of Addiction and RecoveryHelping someone through addiction and recovery requires difficult decisions and continuous support, but it can lead to personal growth and a meaningful impact on others.

      Helping someone through addiction and recovery is a long and challenging process. It involves making difficult decisions, like booking flights and finding detox centers, and providing constant support and communication. The realization that the person struggling with addiction felt alone in Los Angeles, surrounded by fake people striving for fame, emphasizes the importance of family and genuine support systems. The transformation that occurs during recovery is significant, as the person becomes a completely different individual. Despite the hardships, going through addiction and recovery can lead to personal growth and a sense of purpose in helping others. It is a reminder that even in difficult circumstances, there is potential for positive change and making a difference in the lives of others.

    • Embracing Opportunities and Making a Positive DifferenceBeing proactive and passionate can lead to incredible opportunities and positive changes, both for oneself and for others.

      Being proactive and enthusiastic about something can lead to amazing opportunities and positive changes in life. Chris Bell and Mark Bell express their excitement and gratitude for the connections they have made, such as being able to communicate with Joe Rogan and getting invited to events. They emphasize the importance of spreading this message to others and encouraging them to get involved in something they are passionate about. They also highlight the significance of helping others improve their lives, as demonstrated by Greg Young's transformation and the impact he will have on others. Overall, the key lesson is to embrace opportunities, be proactive, and make a positive difference in the lives of others.

    • Recognizing Our Starting Point and Focusing on Personal GrowthOur starting point in life differs for everyone, but by focusing on our own progress and creating a supportive network, we can inspire and uplift others who may be facing similar challenges.

      Our starting point in life plays a significant role in where we end up. It's important to recognize that not everyone begins with the same advantages or disadvantages. Some people may have had supportive parents, ample resources, and a strong foundation from the start, while others may have faced abuse, neglect, or challenging circumstances. Comparing ourselves to others can be detrimental because we all have different journeys and obstacles to overcome. Instead of judging or feeling inadequate, it's crucial to focus on our own progress and personal growth. By acknowledging our own struggles and vulnerabilities and creating a supportive network, we can inspire and uplift others who may be facing similar challenges.

    • The dangers of comparison and the importance of embracing our own journeyComparing ourselves to others only leads to negativity and hinder our progress. Embracing our own journey and focusing on personal growth is the key to achieving greatness.

      Comparing ourselves to others can lead to negative feelings and hinder our progress. Mark admits that comparing himself to his brother, who is currently in better physical shape, makes him feel inadequate. However, he also expresses his desire to surpass his brother in some way. This inclination to compete can motivate us to improve ourselves, but it's important to remember that everyone's journey is unique. It's not about where we currently stand, but rather how far we have come. Peter emphasizes that the key to success is not comparing ourselves to others, but focusing on our own progress and personal growth. Negativity and jealousy only hinder our situation. Instead, we should embrace our own journey and use it as a driving force to achieve greatness.

    • The Impact of Wrestling on a Family's LivesWitnessing their father's dismissal from a corporate job taught them the importance of finding fulfillment and autonomy in their own lives.

      Wrestling had a significant impact on Mark, Chris, and their father. They found immense joy and excitement in watching wrestling matches, particularly the body slam challenges. These moments created happiness that was larger than life for them. Wrestling became a major influence in their lives, shaping their desires and aspirations. It contrasted with their father's corporate job at IBM, which they did not want for themselves. Witnessing their father's sudden dismissal after years of dedicated work taught them a valuable lesson about the lack of ownership and security in corporate America. This experience led their father on a journey of personal development and self-discovery, prompting them to recognize the importance of finding fulfillment and autonomy in their own lives.

    • Family Comes FirstPrioritizing family over work is essential for finding happiness and fulfillment.

      Sometimes, despite the demands of work and the sacrifices we make, family should always come first. Chris Bell's father was dedicated to his job, striving for success to provide for his family, but he was losing precious time with them. It was only when Chris' mother had the courage to confront him and remind him of what truly mattered that he realized the importance of being present for his loved ones. This story highlights the guilt that can come from prioritizing work over family, and the importance of finding a balance. No matter how successful we are in our careers, it is the meaningful connections and moments shared with our loved ones that ultimately bring us happiness and fulfillment.

    • Family Traditions and Overcoming ChallengesPerseverance, trust in mentors, and challenging misconceptions are crucial for personal growth, as demonstrated through the Bell family's playful traditions and Mark's journey of discovering strength and resilience.

      Family traditions and experiences shape who we are and influence our strengths and abilities. Mark and Chris Bell share stories of their grandfather's fun and playful pranks, creating lasting memories for their family. These experiences contributed to their close bond and their upbringing filled with joy and adventure. Additionally, Mark's discovery of his strength and resilience came through his journey of dealing with knee issues. His chiropractor introduced him to squatting, a practice he initially believed to be detrimental to his knees. However, through dedication and progress, Mark gradually increased his strength and amazed those around him. This highlights the importance of perseverance, trusting the guidance of mentors, and the ability to challenge misconceptions for personal growth.

    • Achieving Remarkable Strength Through Minimal TrainingFocusing on quality over quantity and finding what works best for you can lead to remarkable achievements in strength training.

      Sometimes, doing less can actually yield better results. Mark and Chris Bell discovered that they responded well to minimal training stimulus. They would go to the gym, do one heavy lift, and then leave. Despite their coach's skepticism, this approach worked for them, and they became incredibly strong. They were inspired by bodybuilder Mike Mencer, who advocated for doing less but working intensely during that short period of time. This unconventional approach paid off, as Mark's strength surpassed even his cousin's at a young age. Their story serves as a reminder that sometimes, focusing on quality over quantity and finding what works best for you can lead to remarkable achievements.

    • The Difference Between Powerlifting and Olympic WeightliftingPowerlifting and Olympic weightlifting are distinct sports that involve different exercises and scoring systems, highlighting the importance of understanding their unique training and techniques.

      Powerlifting and Olympic weightlifting are two different sports. Olympic weightlifting, seen during the Olympics, involves the clean and jerk and the snatch exercises, where athletes lift weights from the floor and get them over their heads. On the other hand, powerlifting consists of three different lifts: the squat, the bench press, and the deadlift. In powerlifting, athletes have three attempts at each lift, and the total accumulated weight lifted determines their score. Both sports require strength and skill, but powerlifting is particularly challenging due to the need for leverage in all three movements. It's important to distinguish between these sports to understand the specific training and techniques involved.

    • Differences between Olympic lifting and powerliftingOlympic lifting emphasizes mobility and speed, while powerlifting focuses on brute strength. Each lift in powerlifting has specific rules, and success comes from dedication and constant improvement.

      Olympic lifting and powerlifting are two different sports that require distinct skill sets. Olympic lifting emphasizes mobility and speed, as athletes need to move their bodies around the barbell. Powerlifting, on the other hand, focuses on brute strength without much emphasis on speed. In powerlifting, specific rules dictate each lift. For the squat, reaching a certain depth is required, which has caused controversy due to limitations in human visual processing. The bench press requires pausing the weight on the chest before pressing it back up. The deadlift simply involves lifting the weight from the ground. Each lifter has their strengths and weaknesses, with some excelling in certain lifts more than others. Ultimately, success in powerlifting comes from dedication and the pursuit of constant improvement.

    • Dedication and Sacrifices in PowerliftingAchieving exceptional strength and success in powerlifting requires complete dedication, focus, experimentation, and a relentless drive to push harder, with better sleep potentially playing a key role. Specialized equipment and a competitive community also contribute to success.

      Achieving exceptional strength and success in powerlifting requires complete dedication and focus. Chris Bell and Mark Bell emphasize the tremendous effort and sacrifices they made to reach their goals. Chris pushed himself to his limits, experimenting with different approaches to training and nutrition. He admits that better sleep may have improved his performance further. Mark supports Chris's dedication, highlighting his laser focus on winning and leaving no room for distractions. The powerlifting community they were a part of was intense and competitive, driving them to push harder. They also discuss the specialized equipment they used to ensure stability and safety while lifting heavy weights. Overall, this conversation underscores the immense commitment and seriousness necessary to excel in powerlifting.

    • The difference between strength levels in commercial gyms and elite training centers and the importance of personal progress and avoiding injuries.Strength levels vary depending on the training environment, so it's crucial to focus on personal growth rather than comparing oneself to others. Avoiding injuries is also important in achieving fitness goals.

      There is a significant difference between strength levels in commercial gyms and elite training centers. In commercial gyms, it is common to see individuals lifting a few plates, while in elite training centers, people are lifting massive amounts of weight, like squatting 700 or 800 pounds or deadlifting 800 pounds. The conversation highlights how strength levels can vary greatly depending on the training environment. It also emphasizes the importance of not comparing oneself to others and focusing on personal progress and growth. Additionally, it discusses the potential risks of pushing too hard and the importance of avoiding injuries during training.

    • Embrace Challenges to Grow in FitnessPushing yourself out of your comfort zone, consistently challenging yourself, and embracing the difficulties are essential for growth and progress in fitness.

      Challenging yourself is crucial for growth and progress in fitness. While it is important to prioritize safety and avoid injuries, pushing yourself out of your comfort zone is necessary to see results. Warm-up exercises, such as using a hip circle or performing bending exercises, should be incorporated before workouts to prevent injuries and prepare the body for movement. However, simply going through the motions without pushing your limits will not lead to the desired outcome. It is easy to admire successful individuals on social media, but they have put in immense effort and faced numerous challenges to achieve their level of success. To truly grow in fitness, one must consistently challenge themselves and embrace the difficulties along the way.

    • Progress, Motivation, and Continuous Learning for SuccessProgress and continuous learning are key factors in achieving personal growth and success. Challenging oneself every day and focusing on various areas of improvement are essential for staying on track and becoming stronger.

      Progress and continuous improvement are essential for happiness and success. Chris Bell emphasizes the importance of challenging oneself every day to achieve personal growth. He suggests that progress serves as a strong motivator and helps in staying on track. Chris also highlights the need to focus on different areas for improvement and not just on one specific aspect. In the gym, he recommends setting lower standards initially and gradually attempting new exercises or increasing weights to achieve personal records consistently. Mark Bell adds that diet plays a crucial role in overall performance and highlights the correlation between what one eats and their performance in the gym. Both speakers emphasize the importance of continuous learning and being open to new challenges to become stronger and avoid feeling intimidated.

    • Embracing Unconventional Methods for SuccessEmbrace discomfort and think outside the box; conventional advice may not always lead to desired results.

      Sometimes, tough love and unconventional methods can lead to unexpected success. Despite being initially criticized and told they were too fat, Mark Bell and Chris Bell were able to achieve their goals by taking the advice of someone who pushed them to change their approach. Mark Bell followed a strict diet of only red meat and water, which resulted in significant weight loss and increased strength. By thinking outside the box and being open to unconventional ideas, they were able to achieve their desired results. This serves as a reminder that sometimes, embracing discomfort and thinking differently can lead to great outcomes.

    • Importance of Diet and Training for Optimal FitnessStick to a diet that works for your body and utilize reliable resources for proper training techniques to maximize your fitness journey.

      Mark Bell regrets not sticking to the keto/carnivore diet that worked well for him and believes he wasted years by deviating from it. He emphasizes the importance of optimizing training along with diet. When discussing squat techniques, Peter Attia mentions Mark Rippetto's videos as a valuable resource for learning how to squat safely and in a universal manner. Chris Bell defends CrossFit, stating that it is an excellent fitness program that invests significant time and money in its development. He admires their fitness contests and believes they offer valuable insights into nutrition. Overall, the key takeaway is the significance of maintaining a diet that suits one's body and the importance of finding reliable resources for proper training techniques.

    • CrossFit: A Positive and Supportive Starting Point for Fitness Beginners.CrossFit provides a welcoming environment and personalized assistance to help individuals improve their fitness, making it a great entry point for those with no prior knowledge or direction in fitness.

      CrossFit offers a valuable starting point for individuals who have no knowledge or direction in fitness. Despite some potential negative experiences that could be similar to trying out a therapist or healthcare professional, the environment and encouragement at a CrossFit box are typically positive. The business model of CrossFit differs from large chain gyms, as they prioritize helping individuals improve rather than simply signing them up and forgetting about them. While the conversation also touches on bodybuilding, the focus remains on how powerlifting can be a great entry point for those interested in pursuing fitness goals. Learning the proper mechanics of important movements in the human body is a significant benefit of engaging in powerlifting.

    • Mark Bell's Impact: Powerlifting for KidsPowerlifting has the potential to positively impact young individuals' lives by instilling discipline, improving form, and creating an enjoyable and transformative experience.

      Mark Bell's involvement in powerlifting for kids has had a profound impact and brought immense joy. Through his company slingshot, he organized a powerlifting meet for kids aged 7 to 15, which turned out to be the most fun experience for his brother, Chris Bell. The children's enthusiasm and their statement that "Mark Bell changed my life" showcased the positive influence he had on them. Reflecting on this, it was highlighted that teaching kids powerlifting is easier than teaching adults due to their impeccable form and ability to move well. Moreover, the strict organization and emphasis on discipline in this program, from asking parents to wait outside to having dedicated homework time, contribute to its success. This story reveals the potential of powerlifting to positively impact the lives of young individuals.

    • Prioritizing Physical Activity for Children's Health and DevelopmentPromoting physical education and an active lifestyle is crucial for children's overall well-being, including improved academic performance.

      Maintaining physical activity and movement in children is crucial for their overall health and development. Sitting for extended periods can be detrimental to their well-being, so finding ways to minimize sitting, such as using standing desks in schools, can be a step in the right direction. Additionally, there is a need for a revitalized emphasis on physical education in schools, providing children with opportunities to exercise and develop their physical abilities. Programs like the presidential physical fitness initiative were effective in the past but have unfortunately been discontinued. Encouraging children to be active, engaging them in activities like walking or playing sports, can have numerous benefits, including improved academic performance. By prioritizing physical education and promoting an active lifestyle, we can help children thrive both physically and mentally.

    • Pushing beyond limits for growth and successTrue growth requires pushing past comfort zones, prioritizing rest and recovery, and embracing discipline and consistency to achieve extraordinary feats in any field.

      Pushing yourself beyond your limits is an essential part of reaching your full potential. Peter Attia questions Olivia about her commitment to testing her capabilities, emphasizing that true growth often comes with pain and discomfort. They discuss the importance of rest and recovery in achieving one's goals. Additionally, the conversation shifts to bodybuilding, where Chris Bell highlights the power of discipline and consistency in making rapid changes. The bodybuilding community's adherence to specific routines and diets has resulted in continued success. The dedication exhibited by top bodybuilders, such as the seven-time Mr. Olympia winner, teaches us the value of strict schedules, preparation, and repetitive habits in achieving extraordinary feats.

    • The Impact of Consistent Protein Intake on Muscle Growth and Body CompositionFollowing a structured meal plan with consistent protein intake and avoiding unnecessary snacking can lead to noticeable changes in physique within a short timeframe. Find your ideal protein intake and stick to it consistently.

      Adhering to a specific meal plan with consistent amounts of protein throughout the day can have a significant impact on muscle growth and body composition. Chris Bell and Peter Attia discuss the importance of consuming 50 grams of protein at each of the seven meals, totaling 350 grams of protein per day. They emphasize that snacking and unnecessary eating can sabotage weight loss and hinder progress. By following a structured meal plan and incorporating bodybuilding techniques, individuals can achieve noticeable changes in their physique within a relatively short period of time. It is crucial to find the right protein intake for one's body weight and stick to it consistently.

    • The Role of Nutrition and Weight in BodybuildingCareful attention to nutrition and weight can greatly impact performance and physique in bodybuilding, making it crucial to work with top nutritionists and trainers.

      Nutrition and weight management are crucial in bodybuilding. Chris Bell discusses how his body weight, energy expenditure, and age play a significant role in his competition preparation. He anticipates losing both actual weight and water weight before the competition. He believes that a lower weight can make him appear more muscular without going overboard. The conversation also highlights the importance of working with top nutritionists and trainers to optimize performance. It is evident that bodybuilding is an empirical sport, where individuals rely on evidence-based methods for training, diet, and nutrition. Overall, the key message is that careful attention to nutrition and weight can greatly impact performance and physique in bodybuilding.

    • The Importance of Macro Balance for Body BuildersControlling fat intake and following a recommended range of macronutrients is crucial for body builders. The ketogenic diet can effectively manage food consumption and provide satisfaction and motivation. However, it may not be suitable for professional bodybuilders with healthier eating habits.

      Maintaining a specific macro balance is crucial for body builders. Chris Bell emphasizes the importance of controlling his fat intake and sticking to the recommended range of 65 grams per day. While he doesn't have the exact breakdown of his protein, fat, and carbohydrate percentages, he follows a ketogenic diet to manage his food consumption effectively. Despite the common belief that bodybuilding diets can be brutal and challenging, Chris feels satisfied and motivated by his progress. The decision to pursue bodybuilding came at the right time for him, providing direction and a new challenge. Additionally, the ketogenic diet may not be suitable for professional bodybuilders unless they have deviated from healthier eating habits in the past.

    • Steroid Use in Bodybuilding CompetitionsRecognize the role of genetics and other factors in bodybuilding success, and avoid comparing oneself to top-level bodybuilders with unrealistic expectations.

      Bodybuilding competitions, particularly at the Olympia level, involve the use of drugs. While the exact regulations may vary, it is widely accepted that the use of anabolic steroids and other aids is prevalent in the sport. These substances are primarily used to increase body mass and allow competitors to gain more weight, rather than automatically boosting strength. It is important to recognize that even with the use of steroids, an individual's genetic makeup, childhood environment, and other factors play a significant role in determining their potential for success in bodybuilding. Therefore, it is crucial not to compare oneself to top-level bodybuilders or set unrealistic expectations, as reaching their level may not be feasible for everyone.

    • The Complexities and Controversies of Bodybuilding and Physique CompetitionsSuccess in bodybuilding requires more than just steroids, and different divisions cater to diverse body types and aesthetic goals. The definition of a "classic" or "natural" physique is subjective and personal influences play a significant role.

      The world of bodybuilding and physique competitions is not as simple as it may seem. Steroids play a significant role in the sport, but they do not guarantee the level of success achieved. Even with the use of excessive amounts of steroids, one cannot achieve the incredible physiques of top bodybuilders like Phil Heath. The conversation also highlights the various categories and divisions in bodybuilding, which aim to cater to different body types and aesthetic goals. However, even within these divisions, there is still controversy and debate over what constitutes a "classic" or "natural" physique. The conversation also sheds light on the personal experiences and influences of different bodybuilders, including their favorite icons from the past.

    • Heroes who exceed expectations in a world of disappointments.While some heroes may let us down, there are still exceptional individuals who prove to be amazing people, showing that not all heroes are created equal.

      While many heroes may let us down, there are still individuals who exceed our expectations. Mark Bell and his brother, Chris, discuss meeting their heroes and how most have disappointed them. However, they highlight a few exceptional individuals like Ed Cone, Jake Butler, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and The Rock, who have proved to be genuinely amazing people. In a similar vein, Peter Attia shares his struggle with the perception of anabolic steroids, believing that when used within safe and supervised levels, they may not have significant adverse effects. Despite this, Mark Bell acknowledges his personal experience of suffering a tricep tear due to steroid use, emphasizing that abuse and negligence can lead to detrimental effects.

    • Personalized Approach to Testosterone Replacement TherapyTestosterone replacement therapy should not rely on a standard dose; it should be tailored to individual needs by considering various factors and optimizing testosterone levels for optimal results.

      Testosterone replacement therapy is a complex and personalized process. The standard dose of 200 milligrams per week that many individuals are taking may not be suitable for everyone. Dr. Peter Attia emphasizes the importance of examining various factors, such as sex hormone-binding globulin levels, symptoms, insulin resistance, and muscle mass preservation. He believes in optimizing testosterone levels rather than simply fixing a low number. Depending on individual needs, different steps can be taken, including investigating the reasons for low free testosterone, blocking dihydrotestosterone and estradiol if necessary, and addressing potential deficiencies in FDA or pituitary signal. Ultimately, this conversation highlights the need for individualized approaches when it comes to testosterone replacement therapy.

    • Natural and effective ways to boost testosterone levelsPrioritizing quality sleep, managing cortisol levels, and maintaining a healthy diet can naturally optimize testosterone levels, reducing the need for prescription medications.

      There are safe and effective ways to increase testosterone levels without directly administering testosterone. Medical management approaches include using LH or FSH stimulants, synthetic hormones that mimic estrogen molecules to trigger the production of FSH and LH. This approach has shown promising results and is increasingly recognized in medical literature. Additionally, lifestyle factors play a significant role in testosterone levels, such as proper sleep and a healthy diet. Sleep deprivation can hinder the brain's signaling to produce testosterone, while high cortisol levels negatively impact testosterone production. Therefore, it is essential to prioritize sleep, manage cortisol levels, and maintain a sound diet to optimize testosterone levels naturally. Doctors should explore these options before resorting to prescription medications.

    • Recognizing Nuances in Medications: The Case of StatinsStatins, contrary to initial assumptions, do not damage testosterone production. When used appropriately, statins can improve quality of life for certain individuals. Approach research and opinions with an open mind and consider context, avoiding sweeping generalizations.

      Nothing is completely good or bad. It's important to recognize that there are always exceptions and nuances to any topic, including medications like statins. While it was initially assumed that statins could be damaging and suppress testosterone production, the data does not support this. The body prioritizes the use of cholesterol for important functions like forming cell membranes and hormone production. The conversation emphasizes that statins can be a useful tool when used at appropriate levels, and they can potentially prolong and improve the quality of life for certain individuals. It is essential to approach research and opinions with an open mind and consider the context, rather than making sweeping generalizations.

    • Tools as Means, Not MoralsEmbrace a flexible mindset towards tools, recognizing their value lies in their utility rather than in their moral judgment. Choose what works best based on context and personal needs.

      Tools, whether they are substances or practices, should be seen as means to an end and not as an absolute moral choice. Just as a carpenter needs a variety of tools to build a house efficiently, we too need a diverse range of tools to navigate life effectively. By being open-minded and willing to explore different options, we can find what works best for us in any given situation. It is important to understand that these tools are not inherently good or bad, but rather their appropriateness depends on the context and individual needs. By embracing this mindset, we can make more informed choices and strive to become the best version of ourselves.

    • Small steps with big impactTaking a 10-minute walk daily and having meaningful conversations can clear our mind and create positive change. Kratom and Mindbullet can also contribute to overall well-being and enhance creativity.

      Starting small can have a big impact on our well-being. Chris Bell encourages everyone to take a simple step by going for a 10-minute walk every day and engaging in meaningful conversations with loved ones. He emphasizes that even amidst the busyness of life, dedicating a few minutes to ourselves can clear our minds and bring about positive change. Additionally, Chris promotes the use of Kratom, a plant from Southeast Asia that has helped many people overcome opioid addiction and improve their overall well-being. He also mentions the launch of a new product called Mindbullet, which aims to enhance creativity and mental focus. Overall, this conversation highlights the power of small actions and the potential benefits they can bring to our lives.

    • The Power of Sharing Knowledge and Giving BackMark and Chris Bell's dedication to freely sharing valuable information through their YouTube channel and gym demonstrates the importance of generosity and its ability to positively impact others' lives.

      Sharing valuable information and knowledge is an essential aspect of helping and empowering others. Mark Bell and Chris Bell have dedicated their time and resources to provide informative content through their YouTube channel and gym, Super Training Gym. They understand the importance of arming people with the information they need to make informed decisions and improve their lives. Their commitment to sharing knowledge has not only benefited individuals like Peter Attia, but also many more people who have accessed their content over the past decade. By freely offering their gym and constantly creating valuable content, Mark and Chris Bell exemplify the significance of generosity and the impact it can have on others.

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    In this special episode, Peter addresses the common questions about starting or returning to an exercise routine over the age of 50. Individuals in this age group have frequently reached out with questions about whether it's too late to start exercising and often express concern over a lack of prior training, a fear of injury, or uncertainty about where to begin. Peter delves into the importance of fitness for older adults, examining all four pillars of exercise, and provides practical advice on how to start exercising safely, minimize injury risk, and maximize potential benefits. Although this conversation focuses on people in the “older” age category, it also applies to anyone of any age who is deconditioned and looking to ease into regular exercise.

    We discuss:

    • Key points about starting exercise as an older adult [2:45];
    • Why it’s never too late to begin exercising and incorporating the four pillars of exercise [5:45];
    • The gradual, then sharp, decline in muscle mass and activity level that occur with age [10:00];
    • The decline of VO2 max that occurs with age [15:30];
    • Starting a training program: exercise variability, movement quality, realistic goals, and more [18:30];
    • Improving aerobic capacity: the malleability of the system, the importance of consistency, and setting long-term fitness goals [25:15];
    • Starting cardio training: base building, starting with low volume, and zone 2 training [30:45];
    • The critical role of VO2 max in longevity [36:45];
    • How to introduce VO2 max training to older or deconditioned individuals [46:15];
    • Options for performing zone 2 and VO2 max training [53:45];
    • The ability to make gains in strength and muscle mass as we age [57:00];
    • How to implement strength training for older individuals [1:01:00];
    • Advice for avoiding injury when strength training [1:07:30];
    • Risk of falls: the devastating consequences and the factors that increase fall risk [1:12:15];
    • Mitigating fall risk: the importance of foot and lower leg strength, ankle mobility, and balance [1:19:45];
    • Improving bone mineral density through resistance training [1:24:30];
    • The importance of protein in stimulating muscle protein synthesis, especially in older adults [1:31:00];
    • Parting advice from Peter [1:34:00]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enJune 24, 2024

    #306 - AMA #60: preventing cognitive decline, nutrition myths, lowering blood glucose, apoB, and blood pressure, and more

    #306 - AMA #60: preventing cognitive decline, nutrition myths, lowering blood glucose, apoB, and blood pressure, and more

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    In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter provides insights on a broad range of important topics. He delves into the prevention of cognitive decline, the link between cardiovascular disease and Alzheimer's disease, and methods to lower blood glucose, insulin, and apoB. He also addresses nutrition-related queries, exploring the impact of dietary habits on weight loss and longevity, how a person can identify the best diet for themselves, and common nutrition myths. Additional discussions include optimal blood pressure, daily step goals, the benefits of standing versus sitting desks, and much more.

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    We discuss:

    • Overview of topics and episode format [1:40];
    • Preventing cognitive decline [5:00];
    • How to lower blood glucose and insulin [13:30];
    • The relationship between lipids, CVD, and Alzheimer’s disease, and whether statins can increase the risk of neurodegenerative disorders and AD [23:15];
    • Reducing apoB levels through exercise and diet [31:45];
    • Pharmacological options for lowering apoB [38:00];
    • How nutrition impacts longevity via metabolic health, muscle mass, BMD and more [40:15];
    • How can someone determine the best diet for themselves? [43:45];
    • Nutrition myth: All weight loss is good [46:45];
    • Nutrition myth: Metabolic rates are dramatically different among individuals based on genetics [49:00];
    • Nutrition myth: Losing weight after a brief period of overeating is impossible [53:45];
    • Nutrition myth: GLP-1 agonists are a replacement for a healthy lifestyle [57:45];
    • Nutrition myth: There is a single best diet for weight loss [1:03:00];
    • Nutrition oversimplification: All calories are created equal [1:05:45];
    • Daily step goals [1:06:45];
    • The benefits of standing versus sitting throughout the day [1:10:45];
    • How to identify the most impactful and easiest-to-implement ways to improve your health [1:12:30];
    • The critical importance of emotional health [1:14:30];
    • Why supplements should be considered as supportive aids rather than primary solutions in one’s strategy to improve longevity [1:18:00];
    • Strategies for reducing high blood pressure [1:20:45];
    • Peter’s biggest frustrations with "mainstream health advice" [1:28:00];
    • Peter’s chaotic, yet cherished, morning routine [1:31:00]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enJune 17, 2024

    #305 ‒ Heart rate variability: how to measure, interpret, and utilize HRV for training and health optimization | Joel Jamieson

    #305 ‒ Heart rate variability: how to measure, interpret, and utilize HRV for training and health optimization | Joel Jamieson

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    Joel Jamieson is a conditioning expert who developed Morpheus to give people a smarter way to build their conditioning regimen and improve their recovery. In this episode, Joel dives deep into the world of heart rate variability (HRV), explaining its scientific foundation, how it measures the balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, the various methods of measurement, and how it can guide healthier lifestyle choices and improved training performance. He explores the nuances of HRV calculation, the impact of aging on HRV, and the roles of genetics, exercise, and other lifestyle factors in this process. He also covers Morpheus, the innovative training tool that won Peter over after his initial skepticism, highlighting its practicality and effectiveness in guiding training and optimizing fitness outcomes.

    We discuss:

    • Heart rate variability (HRV): evolution, science, and practical applications of HRV in athletic training [4:00];
    • Methods of measuring HRV: EKG, wrist-based sensors, and more [11:30];
    • How HRV is calculated from the data [22:30];
    • The role of the autonomic nervous system (ANS) in regulating HRV [25:45];
    • The decline in HRV with age, and the mitigating effects of fitness and other lifestyle factors [33:30];
    • The role of genetics in HRV, the modifiability of HRV, and a comparison of VO2 max and HRV as predictors of mortality [37:00];
    • How aging affects HRV and sympathetic drive, and the importance of spontaneous movement and exercise in maintaining the body's adaptability [43:30];
    • How Morpheus measures HRV using RMSSD and normalizes it to a 100-point scale for easier interpretation [49:45];
    • The Morpheus system: development, integration with various metrics, and personalized daily training recommendations to optimize fitness and recovery [51:30];
    • The benefits of morning HRV readings for assessing daily readiness compared to overnight HRV measurements [1:03:00];
    • Why Morpheus recommends using a chest strap rather than an arm band [1:10:00];
    • The impact of consistent exercise, stress, alcohol, and other lifestyle factors on HRV [1:11:15];
    • Optimizing zone 2 training with Morpheus [1:18:15];
    • Using heart rate recovery (HRR) as an indicator of athletic conditioning and the balance between aerobic and anaerobic systems [1:22:45];
    • The importance of tracking HRV trends over time rather than focusing on data from a given day [1:29:00];
    • Effect of GLP-1 agonists on heart rate and HRV [1:34:45];
    • Where HRV belongs in the hierarchy of health metrics [1:42:00];
    • Parting thoughts [1:46:30]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enJune 10, 2024

    #304 – NEW: Introducing quarterly podcast summaries - Peter shares his biggest takeaways on muscle protein synthesis, VO2 max, toe strength, gut health, and more

    #304 – NEW: Introducing quarterly podcast summaries - Peter shares his biggest takeaways on muscle protein synthesis, VO2 max, toe strength, gut health, and more

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    In this quarterly podcast summary (QPS) episode, Peter introduces a new format aimed at summarizing his biggest takeaways from the last three months of guest interviews on the podcast. Peter shares key insights from each episode, covering diverse topics such as protein and muscle building with Luc van Loon, toe strength with Courtney Conley, VO2 max with Olav Aleksander Bu, liquid biopsies for cancer with Alex Aravanis, gut health and probiotics with Colleen Cutcliffe, and road safety with Mark Rosekind. Additionally, Peter shares any personal behavioral adjustments or modifications to his patient care practices that have arisen from these engaging discussions.

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    We discuss:

    • How Peter keeps track of his takeaways from each podcast episode [5:15];
    • Luc van Loon episode: fat utilization, muscle protein synthesis, dietary protein, aging and inactivity, and more [8:45];
    • Behavioral changes that have come about from the conversation with Luc van Loon [23:45];
    • Courtney Conley episode: importance of toe strength and the impact of dedicated foot training [26:45];
    • Olav Aleksander Bu episode: the importance of VO2 max for lifespan, and the practicalities of measuring and improving VO2 max [36:45];
    • Behavioral changes that have come about from the conversation with Olav [56:00];
    • Alex Aravanis episode: liquid biopsies for cancer detection [1:01:30];
    • Colleen Cutcliffe episode: the importance of gut bacteria balance, and the potential therapeutic uses of probiotics, particularly Akkermansia [1:16:45];
    • Mark Rosekind: the significant issue of road fatalities and injuries, their causes, and practical safety measures to reduce risks [1:27:00]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enJune 03, 2024

    #303 - A breakthrough in Alzheimer’s disease: the promising potential of klotho for brain health, cognitive decline, and as a therapeutic tool for Alzheimer's disease | Dena Dubal, M.D., Ph.D.

    #303 - A breakthrough in Alzheimer’s disease: the promising potential of klotho for brain health, cognitive decline, and as a therapeutic tool for Alzheimer's disease | Dena Dubal, M.D., Ph.D.

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    Dena Dubal is a physician-scientist and professor of neurology at UCSF whose work focuses on mechanisms of longevity and brain resilience. In this episode, Dena delves into the intricacies of the longevity factor klotho: its formation and distribution in the body, the factors such as stress and exercise that impact its levels, and its profound impact on cognitive function and overall brain health. Dena shares insights from exciting research in animal models showing the potential of klotho in treating neurodegenerative diseases as well as its broader implications for organ health and disease prevention. She concludes with an optimistic outlook for future research in humans and the potential of klotho for the prevention and treatment of Alzheimer’s disease.

    Disclosure: Peter is an investor in Jocasta Neuroscience, a company working to develop klotho as a therapy for people with Alzheimer’s disease.

    We discuss:

    • Dena’s fascination with aging and how she came to study klotho [3:30];
    • Biological properties of klotho: production, regulation, decline with age, and factors influencing its levels [11:45];
    • Potential benefits of klotho on brain health [22:00];
    • The relationship between soluble klotho protein, platelet factors, and cognitive enhancement [33:45];
    • The role of platelet factor 4 (PF4) and it’s interaction with GluN2B in mediating cognitive enhancement [46:45];
    • Benefits of klotho observed in a mouse model of Parkinson’s disease [55:45];
    • Benefits of klotho observed in a mouse model of Alzheimer’s disease [1:03:00];
    • Promising results of klotho in primate models, and the importance of finding an appropriate therapeutic dose before moving to human trials [1:08:00];
    • Speculating why a single klotho injection has such long-lasting effects [1:25:30];
    • Potential cognitive benefits of klotho in humans, the impact of the KL-VS genetic variant on klotho levels, and the need for human trials to confirm these effects [1:27:45];
    • The interaction between the KL-VS genetic variant and APOE4 and how it impacts risk of Alzheimer’s disease [1:34:45];
    • The significance of klotho levels: studies linking lower levels to increased mortality and the broader implications for organ health and disease prevention [1:47:15];
    • Measuring klotho levels and determining an individual’s KL-VS status [1:52:15];
    • The promising potential of klotho for Alzheimer’s disease treatment, and the importance of philanthropy for funding research [1:58:00]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enMay 27, 2024

    #302 - Confronting a metabolic epidemic: understanding liver health and how to prevent, diagnose, and manage liver disease | Julia Wattacheril, M.D., M.P.H.

    #302 - Confronting a metabolic epidemic: understanding liver health and how to prevent, diagnose, and manage liver disease | Julia Wattacheril, M.D., M.P.H.

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    Julia Wattacheril is a physician scientist and director of the Metabolic Dysfunction Associated Steatotic Liver Disease (MASLD) program at Columbia University Irving Medical Center. In this episode, Julia delves deep into the complex world of liver health, beginning with a foundational overview of liver physiology. She provides an in-depth look at how alcohol impacts liver function, breaking down the metabolism of ethanol and its detrimental effects. Julia then shifts the focus to understanding liver function tests and optimal enzyme levels, providing a detailed explanation of AST and ALT and elucidating why fluctuations in these levels may or may not be concerning. She provides a primer on the four major stages of liver disease, discussing risk and emphasizing the importance of early diagnosis. Julia highlights the role of liver disease in increasing the risk of cancer and cardiovascular disease and covers in detail the various strategies for diagnosing, treating, and preventing the progression of liver disease.

    We discuss:

    • Julia’s training, the importance of liver health, and the challenges and innovations of hepatology [3:15];
    • The complex and crucial functionality of the liver, its four most essential functions, and more [8:45];
    • Liver injuries: historical and evolving understanding of causal factors, and the progression to liver diseases and cancer [13:15];
    • How the liver metabolizes nutrients and what happens in the presence of excess calories or alcohol [24:45];
    • Methods of diagnosing liver disease and how insights guide treatment and management strategies [33:30];
    • The poisonous nature of ethanol to the liver [40:30];
    • Varied responses to alcohol, damaging effects of alcohol beyond the liver, and the process of advising patients on their alcohol consumption [47:15];
    • Understanding liver enzymes AST and ALT—interpreting levels, lifestyle factors that affect them, and diagnostic approaches [58:30];
    • Interpreting liver function tests for fatty liver disease, and the challenges of diagnosing liver pathologies, particularly in children versus adults [1:13:15];
    • Comprehensive liver health assessments via imaging and various diagnostic tools to prevent overlooking potential liver pathologies [1:18:45];
    • Potential impact of recreational drugs, statins, and other medications on liver function test results [1:26:45];
    • Shifting nomenclature from NAFLD to MASLD to reflect accuracy in the underlying pathophysiology and understanding of liver diseases [1:30:30];
    • Pathophysiology of MASLD, the need for proactive screening, and the significance of liver fat percentage as an indicator of metabolic health [1:36:30];
    • The importance of screening for rare conditions alongside common metabolic diseases associated with fatty liver accumulation [1:42:45];
    • Practical strategies for managing MAFLD [1:45:30];
    • The impact of fructose consumption on liver health and the challenges of disentangling its effects from other factors like obesity and insulin resistance [1:52:45];
    • The potential of GLP-1 agonists for the treatment of MASLD [1:57:45];
    • How the four stages of liver disease have evolved [2:00:30];
    • Increased cancer and heart disease risk associated with early-stage MAFLD [2:05:15];
    • Emerging drugs and therapies for addressing fat accumulation and fibrosis related to MAFLD [2:12:15];
    • Peter’s major takeaways [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enMay 20, 2024

    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

    #301 - AMA #59: Inflammation: its impact on aging and disease risk, and how to identify, prevent, and reduce it

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    In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter delves into the often misunderstood concept of inflammation. He first defines inflammation and differentiates between acute inflammation and chronic inflammation, the latter of which is linked to aging and a plethora of age-related diseases. Peter breaks down the intricate relationship between chronic inflammation, obesity, and metabolic health, and highlights the signs that might suggest someone may be suffering from chronic inflammation. From there, the conversation centers on actionable advice and practical steps one can take to manage and minimize chronic inflammation. He explores how diet plays a crucial role, including the potential benefits of elimination diets, and he examines the impact of lifestyle factors such as exercise, sleep, and stress management. Additionally, he discusses the relevance of food inflammatory tests and concludes by examining the potential benefits and drawbacks of drugs and supplements in managing inflammation.

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    We discuss:

    • Defining inflammation (and the cultural impact of Napoleon Dynamite) [1:45];
    • Acute vs chronic inflammation [8:00];
    • The connection between chronic inflammation, aging, and age-related diseases [11:00];
    • The impact of inflammation on metabolic health [18:30];
    • Understanding and diagnosing chronic inflammation: blood tests and other approaches, and challenges with measurement [20:00];
    • Factors that contribute to low-level chronic inflammation [28:00];
    • Minimizing inflammation through diet [29:45];
    • The important role of fiber for gut health and inflammation [33:45];
    • A closer look at the impact of trans fats and saturated fats on overall health [34:45];
    • Why Peter prefers dietary fiber from food sources over supplements [38:30];
    • Debunking “superfoods”: emphasizing proven methods over marketing claims for reducing inflammation [39:00];
    • Is there any value in over-the-counter food inflammatory tests? [42:30];
    • Food elimination diets: how they work, symptoms and markers to watch, challenges and limitations [45:15];
    • Identifying dietary triggers for gut-related symptoms through low-FODMAP diets like the “carnivore diet” [51:15];
    • Dairy: the complex role of dairy on inflammation and individual responses [55:00];
    • Wheat: the complexities and conflicting evidence around wheat's inflammatory effects [57:45];
    • How exercise influences inflammation [1:02:00];
    • How sleep quality and duration impacts inflammation [1:07:00];
    • The potential impact of chronic psychological stressors on inflammation [1:13:00];
    • The impact of oral health on inflammation and overall well-being [1:15:00];
    • The role of medications in managing chronic inflammation [1:18:15];
    • Supplements: evaluating the efficacy of various anti-inflammatory supplements [1:22:15];
    • Parting thoughts and takeaways [1:27:00]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enMay 13, 2024

    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

    #300 - Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, and more — promising interventions or just noise?

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    In this special edition celebrating 300 episodes of The Drive, Peter discusses a variety of popular topics and health interventions and classifies them based on their level of evidence and relevance using the following categories: proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense. Peter first delves into the topic of geroprotective molecules, covering rapamycin, metformin, NAD and its precursors, and resveratrol. Next, he explores the significance of metrics like VO2 max and muscle mass, as well as emerging concepts like blood flow restriction and stem cells. The conversation extends to nutrition, addressing questions surrounding long-term fasting, sugar consumption, sugar substitutes, and the contentious role of red meat in cancer. Peter not only provides his current stance on each topic—most of which have been covered in great detail in the previous 300 episodes—but also reflects on how his opinion may have evolved over the years.

    We discuss:

    • Defining the categories of “proven, promising, fuzzy, noise, and nonsense” [3:15];
    • Rapamycin [9:30];
    • Metformin [17:00];
    • NAD and its precursors [24:30];
    • Resveratrol [32:45];
    • The importance of VO2 max, muscle mass, and muscular strength for lifespan [38:15];
    • Blood flow restriction (BFR) training [44:00];
    • Using stem cells to treat osteoarthritis or injury [51:30];
    • Fasting as a tool for longevity (and why Peter stopped his fasting protocol) [55:45];
    • The energy balance theory [1:06:30];
    • The idea that sugar is poison [1:12:00];
    • The idea that sugar substitutes are dangerous [1:22:15];
    • The debate on red meat and cancer [1:28:45]; and
    • More.

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    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

    Special episode with Dax Shepard: F1 and the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s death

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    This is a special episode of The Drive with Peter’s friend and fellow car enthusiast Dax Shepard. In this podcast, which commemorates the 30th anniversary of the death of Brazilian Formula One legend Ayrton Senna, Dax sits down with Peter to better understand what made Senna so special and why Peter remains an enormous fan. This conversation focuses on Senna’s life, the circumstances of his death, and his lasting impact and legacy on the sport of F1.

    We discuss:

    • Peter’s interest in motorsports began as a child [2:30];
    • The drama and dangers of F1 [6:00];
    • What made Senna special [13:00];
    • What Senna meant to Brazilians [24:00];
    • The cause of the fatal crash [28:15];
    • Why Peter is obsessed with Senna [40:30];
    • Being the best versus having the best record [43:30];
    • Senna’s unique driving style and incredible intuition about automotive engineering [46:30];
    • Back to the day of the dreadful race [53:00];
    • What Peter believes caused the crash [1:02:45];
    • Views on dying young, in the prime of life [1:13:00];
    • Senna lives on in his foundation and in safety changes adopted by F1 [1:21:00];
    • Statistics aren’t enough for fandom, and why people like who they do [1:24:15];
    • The biggest difference between F1 today and F1 in the 80s [1:28:30];
    • Senna’s driving superpower [1:30:30];
    • The fastest drivers currently in F1 [1:38:30];
    • Current F1 obsessions [1:45:00];
    • How hard it is to do what the top F1 drivers do [1:50:15];
    • Dax’s love of motorcycles and his AMG E63 station wagon [1:52:15];
    • Awesome Senna mementos from Etsy [2:01:15];
    • What makes specialists interesting, and Max’s devotion to F1 [2:10:15];
    • What Senna might have done if he had not died that day [2:14:00];
    • Michael Schumacher and Max Verstappen are also top F1 drivers [2:17:30];
    • Interlagos in Sao Paulo Brazil is always an incredible experience [2:18:45]; and
    • More.

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    SPONSORS: - Head to https://policygenius.com to get your free life insurance quotes and see how much you could save. Pull your jeans all the way over your head this week with Tim and Kirstin! Christina announces to her first brown ever at the studio, he recently getting over vomit, and no one enjoys sneezes more than Tom. We have a cool guy opening clip, a cool Florida realtor, and Tom and Christina have started playing the pushing game again. Then, we see which mommy has nastier flossing habits. We then welcome comedian and godfather of podcasting, Brian Redban from the Joe Rogan Experience and Kill Tony! They talk about the early days of podcasting, supplementing with Testosterone, and hooking up with old people. We discuss some special people, getting cosmetic work done, Sex and The City, a cool double jointed girl, and Ari Shaffir’s very weird body. We revisit the cool guy that hates dating women in America, breastfeeding, and Christina’s latest TikTok curations. https://tomsegura.com/tour https://christinaponline.com/tour-dates https://store.ymhstudios.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices