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    28. “What if we divorce and I end up homeless like my mom?”

    enFebruary 01, 2022

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    • High earners face money-related tensions despite their wealthFocus on understanding your money mindset and effective financial strategies for financial peace and happiness, not just increasing income.

      Having more money does not automatically lead to financial peace or happiness. Ramit Sethi shared his experience of conducting events and revealed that most attendees have not read his book, which covers essential financial topics. He emphasized that high earners like Katie and Sean, who make $460,000 a year together, still face money-related tensions, such as an argument over buying a new Roomba. Ramit urged listeners to reflect on this example and consider that their feelings about money are not directly related to their bank balance. Instead, he encouraged listeners to focus on understanding their money mindset and learning effective financial strategies to improve their financial situation. The I Will Teach You TO Be Rich book, with over 18,000 reviews on Amazon, offers valuable insights and practical steps to help individuals manage their finances better.

    • Discussing financial priorities beyond household appliancesPeople's financial decisions are influenced by deeper emotional and personal reasons, not just the cost of a specific item.

      The discussion between Katie and Sean is not just about the cost of a Roomba vacuum cleaner. Katie uses the Roomba as a way to bring up her concerns about other priorities in their lives, such as preparing for a new baby and saving for their future. Although they can afford the Roomba, Katie is hesitant to spend the money on it due to her focus on savings and early retirement. This conversation reveals that their financial priorities and stressors go beyond just the cost of household appliances. It's important to remember that people's decisions are often influenced by deeper emotional and personal reasons.

    • The Value of Experiences and Prioritizing GoalsMissing out on experiences due to financial constraints can lead to regret. Identify pleasurable purchases, consider Viator for travel experiences, and invest in quality of life products.

      Experiences and memories are valuable, and missing out on them due to circumstances or financial constraints can be a regretful experience. Katie's story of missing the sunrise in Cambodia served as a reminder for the importance of prioritizing travel and retirement goals. However, her justification for her spending habits through this story might not hold water, as her spending behavior is likely a deeply ingrained habit. To help her recognize her enjoyment of spending, I suggested an exercise to identify purchases made just for pleasure. Additionally, I introduced Viator as a solution for booking travel experiences, offering flexibility, support, and a wide range of options. My friend's experience with 8 Sleep's pod cover, which adjusts temperatures for individual preferences, was also shared as an example of investing in products that improve quality of life. Lastly, the discussion touched upon the idea that upgrading technology, like cell phones, might not always be necessary or worth the investment.

    • Understanding upbringing and past experiences impact on spending habitsRecognizing the root causes of spending habits can help individuals make informed financial decisions.

      People's attitudes towards spending money can be influenced by their upbringing and past experiences. The discussion revealed that some people may feel the need to be strategic and frugal with their money due to past financial hardships or witnessing financial instability in their families. Contrastingly, others may not feel the same level of constraint, even if they have a high income. The conversation also touched upon the idea that people may not always need the latest gadgets or luxury items, but they may still choose to buy them because they want to. Ultimately, understanding one's relationship with money and recognizing the root causes of spending habits can help individuals make more informed financial decisions.

    • Women's fear of financial insecurity in later yearsMany women have a deep-rooted fear of being left financially vulnerable in their later years, leading to high savings rates, focus on returns, and avoidance of unnecessary expenses. Acknowledging and addressing the emotional reasons for this fear is crucial for creating a healthy relationship with money.

      Many women, including the speaker's wife, have a deep-rooted fear of being left with nothing financially if their husband leaves them in their later years. This fear stems from personal experiences or family history, where women have been financially dependent on their husbands. This fear can manifest in various ways, such as a high savings rate, focus on returns, and avoidance of unnecessary expenses. The speaker's wife, Katie, is an example of this, as she has a goal of early retirement to secure her financial future and feel like she has "made it." However, this goal may not address the underlying emotional reasons for her feelings of financial insecurity. It's essential to acknowledge and address these emotions to create a healthy relationship with money.

    • Understanding and respecting each other's communication styles and love languagesEffective communication in relationships involves being upfront about desires, asking questions, and engaging in meaningful conversations to foster deeper understanding and appreciation.

      Effective communication and understanding of each other's needs and desires are crucial in a relationship, especially when it comes to money and decision-making. Katie and Sean's different approaches to handling finances and planning led to feelings of frustration and disconnection. Katie expressed a desire for Sean to take more initiative and show appreciation for her efforts. Sean, on the other hand, values acts of service and trusts Katie's judgments. By recognizing and respecting each other's love languages and communication styles, they can work towards feeling like equal partners and building a stronger, more connected relationship. Effective communication involves being upfront about desires, asking questions, and engaging in meaningful conversations. By focusing on these aspects, couples can foster a deeper understanding and appreciation for each other, leading to a more fulfilling partnership.

    • Efficiency vs. Emotional Connection in RelationshipsEfficiency is important but should not overshadow emotional connection in relationships. Balance between logic and emotion is crucial for building and maintaining strong bonds.

      Focusing too much on efficiency in relationships can lead to misunderstandings and a lack of emotional connection. In the discussed scenario, Katie's extensive research and presentation on a car seat recommendation was met with a terse "okay" from Sean, leaving Katie feeling frustrated and unappreciated. However, it was revealed that Sean trusted Katie's judgment and agreed with her recommendation, but his normal response of "okay" came from a place of trust and efficiency. The conversation felt awkward due to the lack of emotional connection and conversation, highlighting the importance of balance between logic and emotion in relationships. Furthermore, in a different context, the speaker discussed the use of the email software Superhuman to manage emails efficiently. The software allows for keyboard shortcuts, automated summaries, and scheduled messages, saving the user over 10 hours a week. However, the speaker acknowledged that while efficiency is important, it should not come at the expense of emotional connection in relationships. In essence, while efficiency and logic are valuable tools, they should not overshadow the importance of emotional connection and conversation in both personal and professional relationships. Finding a balance between the two is crucial for building and maintaining strong bonds.

    • Experiencing care and love through rare tea inspires Ramit to bring it into his daily routineRamit prioritizes care and love over convenience, investing in rare, beneficial tea and effective communication in relationships

      Sometimes, convenience and efficiency aren't the only priorities in life. Ramit shares his experience of trying a rare and expensive tea in New York, and how he was inspired to bring that feeling of care and love into his daily routine with Peak Tea. Peak Tea's cold-extracted, wild-harvested tea leaves are rich in minerals and beneficial compounds, and require no prep or steeping. Ramit also emphasizes the importance of effective communication, especially when dealing with loved ones, and shares his experience of negotiating a prenup with his wife. He discovered that some women receive the message that they may be left with nothing in old age, which can significantly impact their financial planning. Ramit's approach to financial planning is to plan for the worst, and he sacrifices some desires to save and invest. In the end, it's not just about being efficient, but also about taking care of oneself and loved ones.

    • Balancing present enjoyment and future savingsEnjoy the present while saving for the future to maintain emotional well-being in a relationship.

      Focusing too much on saving and investing for retirement can lead to feelings of dissatisfaction and discouragement in the present. While it's important to plan for the future, it's equally important to enjoy the fruits of our labor and live comfortably in the present. In the conversation, Sean expressed feelings of frustration and discouragement due to the perception that his hard work and increased income weren't leading to a proportional increase in their standard of living. Katie responded by acknowledging his hard work and expressing her appreciation for his contributions to their financial future, while encouraging him to enjoy his money and not feel discouraged. The conversation highlights the importance of striking a balance between saving for the future and enjoying the present. It's not just about the numbers, but also about the quality of life and the emotional well-being of both partners in a relationship.

    • Effective communication and understanding emotions in relationshipsAcknowledging and validating each other's emotions can build stronger connections and create harmonious financial partnerships.

      Effective communication and understanding emotions are crucial in relationships, especially when it comes to discussing sensitive topics like finances. The conversation between Sean and Katie highlights how not expressing feelings can lead to misunderstandings and feelings of disconnect. Katie's traumatic past with money has led her to control and calculate every financial detail as a way to regain a sense of control. Sean, on the other hand, values efficiency and prefers not to discuss emotions. However, their different communication styles can create a disconnect, making Katie feel unheard and unsupported. By acknowledging and validating each other's emotions, they can build a stronger connection and create a more harmonious financial partnership. Additionally, investing in learning from experts, like through MasterClass, can provide valuable insights and tools for improving various aspects of life, including relationships and finances.

    • The Cost of Financial Advice and AlternativesPaying a percentage of your portfolio to a financial adviser can add up over time, consider flat fee memberships for cost savings and emotional connection in relationships for effective financial planning.

      When it comes to financial planning, paying a percentage of your portfolio to a financial adviser can add up significantly over time. This concept was illustrated using the example of repeatedly paying more for a meal at In N Out, and the idea of a flat fee membership was presented as a better alternative through Facet Wealth. Another key takeaway was the importance of feeling safe and appreciated in relationships, and how a lack of emotional connection can lead to incongruent behaviors. The discussion also touched upon the concept of a "worry free number" in retirement planning, encouraging a shift from defensive to offensive financial strategies.

    • Establishing a 'worry-free number' for shared financial visionCommunicate clearly about financial values, set shared goals, and focus on the bigger picture to eliminate conflicts and build a richer life

      Setting clear communication rules and understanding each other's financial values can help eliminate conflicts and open up possibilities for a richer life. In the discussed conversation, Sean and Katie established a "worry-free number" to ensure they're on the same page regarding spending. By focusing on their shared financial vision and goals, they learned to move past the stress of a $600 Roomba debate and focus on the bigger picture. This realization can apply to anyone, regardless of income level. To build a rich life, it's essential to work on both earning more and improving money psychology. This includes setting aside time for regular money discussions, surrounding yourself with supportive people, and visualizing your goals. By taking these steps, you can create a fulfilling life filled with experiences, generosity, and joy.

    • Learn practical strategies for financial improvementRamit Sethi's 'I Will Teach You to be Rich' offers specific tactics for saving, increasing income, and investing wisely to achieve financial freedom

      That "I Will Teach You to be Rich" by Ramit Sethi is a valuable resource for anyone looking to improve their personal finances. The book provides specific tactics for building a financial system that can help you save money, increase income, and invest wisely. By implementing the strategies outlined in the book, you can take control of your money and work towards financial freedom. Whether you're just starting out or looking to make adjustments to your current financial situation, "I Will Teach You to be Rich" offers practical advice and actionable steps that can make a significant difference. So, if you haven't already, consider picking up a copy of the book from your local bookstore or library.

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    “Women being financially empowered and feeling good in their finances benefits everyone.” - Kalee Boisvert

    This Week on Young Money:

    • How we can empower women to feel part of the financial conversation.
    • Why so many women feel uncomfortable discussing finances.
    • How someone can ditch the stress and make money their thing.
    • The first steps you can take towards a financially fit future.
    • The importance of knowing where you stand today with your finances.
    • Why you shouldn’t strive for financial perfection.
    • How to get ourselves out of money comparisons.

    Key takeaways:

    1. Take action on your finances.
    2. Be open to learning new things.
    3. Assess your money beliefs.
    4. Get to know your numbers.
    5. Devote time to working on your money.
    6. Don’t ignore your money.
    7. Embrace your own money uniqueness.

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    Ep.120 HIGHLIGHT I The roles we play in business, family, and retirement

    Ep.120 HIGHLIGHT I The roles we play in business, family, and retirement
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    Check out Ep.120 I Jamie Hopkins I Deciding What's Next: Navigating Life's Biggest Transitions, or download it directly using this link.

    Jamie Hopkins joins Sanger and Shawn to dive into retirement's 'to' versus 'from' transition, crafting real freedom, and defining meaningful legacies.

    KEY TOPICS
    Retiring “to” something when you retire “from” your business.
    What freedom in retirement looks like for you.
    Naming your life’s aspirations (they’re different than goals).

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
    Hal Herschfield’s book: Your Future Self: How to Make Tomorrow Better Today
    Dan Sullivan’s work: https://resources.strategiccoach.com/authors/dan-sullivan

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    Jamie Hopkins is an expert in retirement planning for business owners. He earned his Master of Laws degree, Juris Doctorate, and holds master’s degrees in financial planning and business administration. He’s a Wall Street Journal best-selling author and regular contributor for Forbes and InvestmentNews on Retirement Income Planning. Jamie also serves as the co-director of the New York Life Center for Retirement Income, and is a professor in the retirement income program at the American College of Financial Services.