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    288: 75 Rental Units in Their Early 30s with Jason and Carrie Harris

    enJuly 19, 2018

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    • Creative Real Estate Strategies for Minimal CapitalWith strategies like the BRRRR method, rent-to-retirement programs, networking, and 1031 exchanges, real estate investing is accessible for those with minimal capital.

      With minimal upfront capital, real estate investing is still possible through creative strategies like the BRRRR method or rent-to-retirement programs. These approaches allow investors to buy properties with little to no money down, while still generating cash flow and building wealth. Additionally, networking with other investors through meetups and events can provide valuable learning opportunities and expand your real estate knowledge. Another key point is the use of 1031 exchanges, which can help investors defer capital gains taxes when selling and buying new investment properties. Overall, these strategies demonstrate that real estate investing is not limited to those with substantial capital, and there are various ways to get started with limited resources.

    • Real Estate Investing: A Fixed Monthly Income OpportunityStart small with a single real estate deal, learn the ropes, and potentially earn significant profits through house hacking or multifamily properties. Consider investing in short notes through Connect Invest for potential high returns.

      Real estate investing offers the potential for a fixed monthly income without the hassle of managing property, as demonstrated by the success story of Jason and Keri who made significant profits through house hacking and investing in multifamily properties. For those interested, Connect Invest provides an opportunity to invest in short notes with annualized return rates up to 9%. However, before diving into real estate, starting with a single deal is crucial, as Jason and Keri's journey began when they were introduced to the opportunity through family and were able to finance their first property with an FHA loan. Their experience of house hacking and recouping their down payment within a short period sparked their obsession with real estate investing. If you're intrigued by this alternative income stream, consider creating an account on Connect Invest and exploring investment opportunities.

    • Young investors can thrive in real estateReal estate investing offers equity and forced appreciation, even for young people. Overcome financing challenges with persistence and creativity to secure favorable deals.

      Real estate investing can provide significant financial benefits, including equity and forced appreciation, even for young people with limited resources. This was the experience of the speakers, who were able to buy a property they couldn't afford to rent, leading to repeated success in real estate. For Jason, a financial planner, real estate's appeal lay in its potential to complement stock investing as part of a comprehensive financial plan. Their first deal involved purchasing a larger property with more bedrooms, which resulted in greater rent income, despite the higher initial cost. They overcame financing challenges through persistence and creativity, ultimately securing a 5-year adjustable rate mortgage (ARM) that allowed them to qualify. Key terms like ARM and debt-to-income ratio should be familiar to listeners, as they are essential concepts in real estate investing.

    • Financial literacy and strategic planning are essential for getting approved for a loan and building wealth through real estate.Financial literacy helps individuals optimize finances, save for investments, and get approved for loans. Strategic planning allows for the use of bank financing to build wealth through real estate.

      Understanding financial metrics such as debt-to-income ratio, credit score, and types of mortgages like ARMs, is essential for getting approved for a loan. This knowledge empowers individuals to optimize their finances and save for future real estate investments. For instance, a couple in the discussion saved $300 a month by house hacking and used it to buy a 4plex, which allowed them to save $1200 a month. They then used this savings to buy a duplex with the help of a portfolio lender, who allowed them to put 10% down instead of the conventional 20%. This strategy enabled them to invest in more properties and increase their monthly savings. In summary, financial literacy and strategic planning are crucial for unlocking the secrets to bank financing and building wealth through real estate.

    • Using an Adjustable Rate Mortgage to Grow a Real Estate BusinessInvestors with limited resources can use an ARM to refinance, reduce payments, and reinvest savings into property improvements and acquisitions. Consider potential risks and thoroughly understand mortgage terms.

      An adjustable rate mortgage (ARM) can be a beneficial tool for real estate investors, especially for those starting out with limited financial resources. The speakers in the discussion used an ARM to refinance a property, reduce their monthly payments, and reinvest the savings into improving the property and acquiring more real estate. They were able to do this within a five-year timeframe, taking advantage of potential rent increases and the appreciation of property values. However, it's important to consider the potential risks, such as increasing interest rates, and thoroughly understand the terms of the mortgage, including any caps on rate adjustments. The speakers shared their success story, which evolved into a real estate business with 75 doors and approximately $11 million in real estate value. Almost all of their properties are multifamily units, with plans to sell some single-family homes that have been lived in for at least two out of the five years of ownership to avoid paying capital gains tax.

    • Navigating Real Estate Investment with Multiple MortgagesThrough strategic planning and various financing options, real estate investors can acquire multiple properties, even beyond the traditional residential loan limit. Strategies include having one spouse carry multiple loans, obtaining commercial financing, and forming partnerships.

      With careful planning and understanding of financing options, real estate investors can acquire multiple properties despite limitations on the number of mortgages per person. The speaker shares their experience of using various strategies like having one spouse carry multiple loans, obtaining commercial financing, and forming partnerships to expand their property portfolio beyond the traditional residential loan limit. Additionally, they suggest that investing in properties with similar characteristics can make it easier to secure commercial financing. The speaker's wife, who is a real estate agent, shares how she built her income to qualify for her own set of loans by staying home with their children and later obtaining her real estate license. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of knowledge, experience, and flexibility in navigating the real estate investment landscape.

    • Identifying profitable multifamily units on the MLSAnalyze cash flow, net operating income, and cap rate to find top multifamily units on the MLS. Build relationships with sellers to secure off-market deals.

      Successful real estate investing through the MLS involves careful analysis and relationship building. The speaker shares how they identify top multifamily units on the MLS based on cash flow, net operating income, and cap rate. Once a promising property is identified, they look for ways to lower the purchase price, reduce expenses, and increase rent to maximize potential cash flow. An example is given of how they built a relationship with a seller over two years, resulting in an off-market deal. The importance of relationships in real estate investing is emphasized.

    • Creative Financing: BRRRR Method for Real Estate InvestingThe BRRRR method allows real estate investors to buy, renovate, rent, refinance, and repeat the process with minimal upfront capital and significant profits. By focusing on increasing rents and appraisal values, investors can roll in closing costs and expand their portfolio.

      Using creative financing strategies, like the BRRRR method (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat), can help real estate investors buy properties with little to no upfront capital and generate significant profits. In this specific example, the investors bought a fourplex below market value, made minor improvements, raised rents, and sold it for a substantial profit, all while avoiding the use of a traditional loan and paying minimal taxes. By identifying opportunities to increase rents and appraisal values, they were able to roll in closing costs and only have a small amount of their own money tied up in the deal. This successful strategy not only led to a profitable sale but also opened the door for even bigger opportunities, such as a 16-plex acquisition.

    • Creative Financing Strategies for Buying Properties with Little Money DownBuy a property using the BRRRR strategy with minimal personal funds, improve it, and refinance for profit. Use creative financing methods like owner-occupied financing, portfolio and hard money loans, bringing in partners, and seller financing.

      With creative financing strategies and a solid understanding of the real estate market, it's possible to buy properties with very little money down and create significant wealth. The speakers shared their experience of using the BRRRR strategy (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) to buy a property with just $3,000 of their own money and turn it into a profitable investment. They emphasized the importance of having a good lender and being able to improve the property's condition to increase its value. Some creative financing methods they used include owner-occupied financing, portfolio and hard money loans, bringing in partners, and seller financing. For those interested in finding a credit union with favorable investment property loan terms, they suggest calling around and negotiating with sellers for commission payments to contribute towards the down payment.

    • Persistence and creativity in real estate investingFind good deals, secure financing, add value through renovations, have clear roles and responsibilities, and continually increase cash flow in real estate business.

      Persistence and creativity are key in real estate investing. The journey involves finding the right financing, networking with other investors and industry professionals, and always looking for the next deal. Even when faced with challenges, the mindset of finding solutions rather than obstacles is essential. Brandon and Jason shared their experiences using the BRRRR strategy to build their portfolio, which includes finding good deals, securing financing, and adding value through renovations. They emphasized the importance of having clear roles and responsibilities in their business partnership, and making sure every investment decision is financially sound. Whether it's through traditional or creative means, the goal is to continually increase cash flow and build a successful real estate business.

    • Adding storage units for tenants increases incomeConverting sheds into rentable storage units boosts monthly income and strengthens property owner's financial position. Remember to include rent in lease and report to tax authorities.

      Adding additional storage units for tenants can significantly increase monthly income from rental properties. This was discussed in the context of a speaker who initially used a shed for storage but later converted it into separate units and charged rent for them. The additional income not only boosts personal finances but also strengthens the property owner's position when applying for loans. It's essential to include this added rent in the lease agreement and inform the tax authorities to accurately report income. However, it's crucial to consider security measures for the storage units to prevent break-ins. Overall, this strategy can lead to substantial financial gains for real estate investors.

    • Digital Platforms Simplify Banking and Insurance for Property InvestorsInvestors can save time and hassle by using digital platforms like RelayFi for business banking and Steadily.com for landlord insurance. Adding extra bedrooms usually brings in more rental income, and laminate and carpet are preferred for flips, while tile is durable for long-term holdings.

      Modern property investors can save time and hassle by utilizing digital platforms for banking and insurance needs. With RelayFi, opening a business bank account for multiple properties can be done entirely online, and collaboration with team members or vendors is simplified. Steadily.com offers fast and affordable landlord insurance with next-day coverage available online. In the discussion, the value of adding extra bedrooms versus a garage was debated, with the consensus being that additional bedrooms generally bring in more rental income. Floor covering choices were also discussed, with laminate and carpet being preferred for flips, and tile for long-term holdings due to durability.

    • Impact of flood zones and investment objectives on property investmentInvestment objectives and flood zones influence property investment strategies. Short-term investments may prioritize lower costs, while long-term investments require consideration of potential flood insurance expenses.

      The decision to invest in a property with a short-term or long-term objective, and the presence of a flood zone, can significantly impact the investment strategy. For short-term investments, it might be more cost-effective to choose a less expensive option due to lower holding periods. However, for long-term investments, the location in a flood zone could potentially affect the property's value and cash flow due to the need for expensive flood insurance. Self-employed individuals may face challenges in securing traditional loans, but options like seller financing, lease options, or restructuring debt can help. Ultimately, understanding the investment objectives, the property's location, and the financing options are crucial factors to consider before making an investment decision.

    • Increase reported income for real estate loansSelf-employed individuals can boost their income and financial stability by acquiring additional licenses or forming LLCs, recommended by Jason and Carrie Harris of Creative Gains Real Estate.

      Self-employed individuals looking to secure a real estate loan may benefit from increasing their reported income by acquiring additional licenses or joining LLCs. This strategy can help strengthen their buyer position and make them appear more financially stable. Jason and Carrie Harris, successful real estate investors, shared their experiences and recommended books like "Rich Dad Poor Dad" and "The E-Myth Revisited." They emphasized the importance of determination and persistence in overcoming obstacles and achieving success in real estate investing. To connect with them, visit creativegainsrealestate.com or email creativegainsllc@gmail.com.

    • Inspiring Stories of Determined Real Estate InvestorsReal estate investing is accessible to anyone with determination and resources. Submit to be a podcast guest if you have 10 deals, and remember, success is about time in the market, not timing it.

      Real estate investing is not just for the privileged few, but for the determined and resourceful individuals. The stories of those who have overcome adversities and made it work through sheer grit and determination serve as an inspiration. If you're interested in becoming a guest on the BiggerPockets podcast and have at least 10 deals under your belt, submit your information at biggerpockets.com/guest. The hosts, David Green and Brandon Turner, are committed to making this the best real estate investing podcast and welcome your feedback. Remember, success in real estate investing is not about timing the market, but time in the market. To find an investor-friendly agent, visit biggerpockets.com/deals and enter your details to get matched with a local market expert. Happy investing! (Note: The text provided was a transcript from a podcast episode, and I tried to keep the tone conversational while maintaining a cohesive and informative takeaway.)

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