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    30: How Finance Took Over the World

    enMay 27, 2016

    Podcast Summary

    • The increasing role of finance in driving economic activityFinancialization prioritizes financial gains over traditional drivers of economic growth, leading to increased use of debt and a larger financial sector, with potential implications for economic stability and inequality.

      The financialization of the economy refers to the increasing role of financial markets, financial motives, financial actors, and financial institutions in driving economic activity. This trend, as discussed on the Odd Thoughts podcast with Shojit Das, has significant implications for investors and the broader economy. Two key manifestations of financialization are the increased use of debt to fuel economic activity and the growing size of the financial sector relative to the real economy. Instead of relying on traditional drivers of economic growth like innovation and productivity, financialization prioritizes financial gains. This shift has been a topic of debate, with some arguing that it leads to economic instability and inequality. It's essential for investors to understand these trends and their potential impact on their portfolios. To learn more about financialization and its implications, check out Shojit Das' books or visit principalam.com, cit.com, or americanexpress.com/businessgoldcard. Remember, investing always comes with risk.

    • Financial growth leading to emphasis on finance over industryThe financial sector's growth led to an excessive focus on financial techniques and instruments, creating more wealth than the real economy, and raising concerns about the economy's health

      The financial sector has grown significantly over the last few decades, leading to an increased emphasis on financial techniques and instruments over real industry. This shift started in the 1970s during a period of stagflation, when economic policymakers and political leaders turned to free-market principles and deregulated key industries, including finance. As a result, financial engineering became prevalent, and financial claims and jiggery pokery began to create more wealth than the real economy. This led to a situation where a trader could earn more than a mechanical engineer in a single year. While this growth was initially successful in growing the economy, it raised concerns about the health of the economy and the potential negative consequences of an excessive reliance on financial techniques. The speaker shared personal experiences of making more money in finance than in real industry, which added to his alarm.

    • The allure of financial solutionsDespite the 2008 crisis, the financialization of the economy persists due to individual rewards, growth needs, and debt reduction. However, increasing debt levels are a reminder of unsustainability.

      The financialization of the economy, driven by the attraction of individual rewards in finance and the search for growth and inflation to reduce debt, has continued despite the warning signs shown during the 2008 financial crisis. The ease of attributing earnings to individual activities in finance, compared to industries like manufacturing, and the short-term focus of political processes have made financial levers like budget deficits, low interest rates, quantitative easing, and even helicopter money more appealing solutions. However, the increasing debt levels, both globally and in specific countries like China, should serve as a reminder of the unsustainable nature of this path. The problem we face is our addiction to growth and the lack of a clear understanding and address of the root causes of the 2008 crisis.

    • The reliance on debt-driven growth after the 2008 crisisThe financialization of economic policy led to a reliance on debt-driven growth, which bought time but also trapped countries in a cycle where they cannot increase interest rates without causing significant economic damage. Policymakers missed an opportunity to address real issues and re-engineer economies away from financialization.

      The financialization of economic policy, markets, and monetary policy after the 2008 financial crisis led to a reliance on debt-driven growth. While this bought time and prevented an immediate economic collapse, it also trapped countries in a cycle where they cannot increase interest rates or normalize monetary policy without causing significant economic damage. Policymakers missed an opportunity to address the real issues and re-engineer economies away from financialization during this period. The benefits of buying time were ultimately outweighed by the multiplication of debt and other issues, making it a difficult and potentially costly path to reverse. While negative interest rates have been proposed as a solution, their potential side effects, such as undermining the profitability of the banking system and causing people to withdraw their money, add to the complexity of the situation.

    • Proposed solutions to economic challengesProposed solutions include banning cash, controlling capital flows, prolonged stagnation, or gradual wealth transfer. Each has drawbacks and significant consequences.

      The world economy is facing unprecedented challenges, and the traditional solutions of monetary and fiscal stimulus seem to be losing effectiveness. One proposed solution is to ban cash and control capital flows between countries during the next crisis to make negative interest rates more effective. However, this approach has its drawbacks and may not be practical or desirable. Another possibility is a prolonged period of economic stagnation, as seen in Japan and Europe. The most likely scenario is a gradual transfer of wealth from savers to borrowers through monetary policies. It's important to note that these are not ideal solutions, and the consequences of each scenario are significant and far-reaching. The search for a sustainable and effective solution continues.

    • Central bankers as modern-day economic priestsLack of faith in central bankers could lead to mass exodus from financial markets, causing economic, social, and political consequences.

      The current economic situation, underpinned by faith in central bankers, could lead to a dangerous moment of panic and mass exodus from the financial markets. Central bankers, acting as modern-day economic priests, have been trying to manage economic forces through adjustments, but there's a risk that people may lose faith in their abilities. This could trigger a panic sell-off, leading to economic, social, and political consequences. Signs of this are already emerging, such as the rise of populist politicians and repudiation of economic principles like free trade. In terms of asset classes, currencies and political/policy developments are likely areas of strain. It's crucial to stay informed and monitor these developments closely.

    • Focus on return of capital, income, and capital gainsInvestors should adapt to changing economic conditions and not solely rely on past performance when making investment decisions. Understanding fundamental investment principles is crucial.

      Learning from the discussion with Shotajit Das is that investors should focus on the return of their capital, income, and capital gains when making investment decisions. Historically, the importance of these criteria has shifted, and it's crucial to be agile and adapt to changing economic conditions. For instance, Das shared a personal mistake he made in 1996 when he advised against investing in long-term Japanese government bonds based on their then-current yield. However, history shows that JGBs have never returned to those levels since. Therefore, it's essential to revisit fundamental investment principles and not rely solely on past performance when making investment decisions. Additionally, Das' new book, "The Age of Stagnation," discusses the challenges facing the global economy and the importance of understanding the changing economic landscape.

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