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    31.20 - MU Podcast - The Jurassic Wizards of Stone

    enMay 24, 2024

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    • Exploring the Mysteries of Ancient Stonework with Camille Savoy and Alfredo GamaraTwo authors, an architect and a local, share their intriguing discoveries about ancient stonework, including unconventional theories on construction methods and the significance of vivid dreams in uncovering lost sites.

      The Sirius Universe, episode 20 explores the fascinating world of Gemara, as discussed by authors Camille Savoy and Alfredo Gamara. Savoy, an architect and researcher living in Peru, is deeply intrigued by ancient stonework and has written a new book investigating unconventional theories about how these monuments were constructed. These theories include geopolymers, natron, and expanding Earth theory. Gamara, a Peruvian man, had vivid dreams about an ancient megalithic site from a young age, which he later discovered was real. He was drawn to its massive stone steps and carvings. Both Savoy and Gamara's work delve into the mysteries of the past, offering intriguing insights into the construction of ancient structures. The episode also includes a discussion on the concept of people having vivid dreams of places throughout their lives, only to discover them later in their travels.

    • Unexplained phenomena throughout historyReports of unexplained phenomena, like UFOs dropping unusual substances, have been documented throughout history. Despite scientific evidence, these claims are often met with skepticism and ridicule

      There are intriguing accounts of unexplained phenomena, such as UFOs dropping a substance resembling spider's web, which have been reported throughout history. These accounts often include revered figures who witnessed these events and tried to share their experiences, only to be met with skepticism and ridicule. For instance, Camille Servais, a reverend from the 1960s, reported seeing a red UFO dropping a cottony, thick substance that looked like spider's web but was actually protein polypeptides when analyzed. Despite the scientific evidence, his claims were dismissed due to the absurdity of the phenomenon. These stories highlight the challenges of accepting and understanding unexplained phenomena, as well as the potential ways in which these phenomena may deliberately present themselves to confound and confuse witnesses.

    • The Enigma of Wakas: Peru's Ancient Rock FormationsResearcher Marion Feddes questions the Incas' attribution as creators of Wakas due to their technological limitations, quantity, distribution, and similarities to structures worldwide. Ancient records and local beliefs suggest they existed before Incan rule.

      The mysterious rock formations known as wakas in Peru, with their perfect joins, abstract designs, and seemingly effortless shaping, have puzzled archaeologists and historians for centuries. While the mainstream consensus attributes their creation to the Incas, researcher Marion Feddes challenges this theory due to the technological limitations of the Incas, the quantity and distribution of the wakas, and their similarities to structures found around the world. Ancient records suggest that these structures were in place before the Incan rule, and some natives claimed they appeared quickly. Feddes, who lives near these enigmatic formations, believes they are worth studying further due to their intriguing history and unique characteristics.

    • Origins of Sacasay Huaman citadel debatedSome believe Sacasay Huaman citadel was built by earlier Kilke culture, challenging the popular belief it was constructed by the 9th Inca king using simple tools.

      The origin and builders of the Sacasay Huaman citadel in Peru, considered a sacred site, are still a subject of debate among academics. While the reputable narrative suggests it was built by the 9th Inca king, Paca Pacakutec, using simple tools and transporting massive limestone rocks, some skeptics argue it was constructed by the earlier Kilke culture based on the differences in building styles and techniques. However, the amount of sediment covering many ancient sites in the area, some buried under several meters of soil, has led some researchers to question if these sites are older than believed, possibly suggesting a catastrophic event like a flood or landslide could be responsible. The author's book explores these theories and challenges conventional scientific understanding.

    • Discovering Ancient Peruvian Theories on Earth's OrbitDutch researcher Jan Peter de Jong uncovered theories by Peruvian researcher Alfredo Gammara about the Earth's orbit not always being 365 days, based on ancient calendars and structures. Collaborating with Gammara's son, they produced documentaries challenging modern assumptions.

      Dutch researcher Jan Peter de Jong discovered the work of Peruvian researcher Alfredo Gammara, who had spent his life studying ancient Peruvian mysteries but didn't publish many books. De Jong was drawn to Gammara's theories about the ancient site of Ollantaytambo and claims to have had dreams about it as a child. Upon visiting, he felt a voice in his mind telling him it was the first edition of the Genesis of the Sacred Scripts. De Jong was particularly intrigued by Gammara's theory of the cosmogony of the 3 worlds, which suggests that the Earth's orbit may not have always been stable at 365 days. Instead, Gammara believed that there were previous orbital periods, possibly 225 and 260 days, represented in ancient calendars and structures. De Jong and Gammara's son, Jesus, collaborated on documentaries about these findings, which are now available for free on YouTube. The discovery of these ancient theories challenges modern assumptions about the Earth's orbit and adds to the ongoing investigation of human history.

    • Ancient civilizations recorded three sun-centered orbitsAncient Egyptians, Indonesians, and Peruvians recorded three sun-centered orbits, with implications for Earth's orbit consistency and potential impact on sentient beings, also believed in longer cycles with first one characterized by longer lifespans and less gravity.

      Ancient civilizations around the world, including Egypt, Indonesia, and Peru, seem to have recorded the concept of three distinct orbits of varying sizes with the sun at their center. This idea can be seen in the layout of structures like the pyramids of Egypt, Borobudur in Indonesia, and Sacsayhuaman in Peru. Some theories suggest that these civilizations observed these orbits during their lifetimes, while others believe that these ideas were passed down through generations. The implications of this discovery are significant, as it raises questions about the consistency of the Earth's orbit around the sun throughout history and the potential impact on sentient beings on the planet. Additionally, these ancient cultures also believed in longer cycles or yugas, with the first one, Hananpakka, being characterized by longer lifespans, greater mental capacities, and less gravity due to the Earth's closer proximity to the sun. This period is also associated with the first building style, which can be seen in monolithic structures around the world, including Peru and Japan.

    • Ancient Earth: Smaller and More MoldableServais' theory proposes a smaller Earth with less gravity, enabling easier construction of monumental structures. Some theories suggest early humans were more ethereal, challenging traditional beliefs. However, these theories face criticism regarding construction methods and materials.

      According to Servais' theory, Earth was smaller in the past, leading to less gravity and easier construction of monolithic structures using moldable stones. This theory, while controversial, suggests that humanity could have lived longer and constructed monumental structures more easily under these conditions. Additionally, some theories propose that early humans were more ethereal in nature, similar to plasticine. These ideas, while far-fetched, challenge traditional beliefs about the history of our planet and human evolution. The theory also calls to mind the Expanding Earth hypothesis, which suggests that the Earth has been growing in size over millions of years. However, these theories face criticism, particularly regarding the construction methods and materials used in building ancient structures. For instance, some structures, like the steps in Peru, do not appear to fit the description of geopolymers or structures built under less gravity. Ultimately, while these theories are intriguing, they require further investigation and evidence to be validated.

    • Ancient ruins and energy sites may induce altered statesAncient ruins and energy sites may have unexplained electromagnetic properties, inducing altered states of consciousness. Some believe these phenomena are connected to shamans and worth exploring beyond mainstream scientific theories.

      The ancient ruins and energy sites, like the Moon Temple complex in Peru, may hold unexplained electromagnetic properties that can induce altered states of consciousness. Sarvea, who lives near these sites, has personally experienced these phenomena and believes they are connected to the shamans in the area who leave offerings at these potent spots. The theories surrounding these sites require delving into esoteric concepts, but Sarvea maintains that they hold up to scrutiny and offer alternative explanations to mainstream scientific theories, such as the possibility that dinosaurs could fly due to less gravity during that era. While some of these theories may seem absurd, Sarvea argues that they are worth considering as they add depth to our understanding of these ancient mysteries.

    • Ancient sites with electromagnetic propertiesSome ancient sites, like those in Peru and France, are believed to have electromagnetic properties due to specific stones and water sources. Visitors report feeling energy sensations, possibly due to the stones' ability to generate electricity or concentrate electromagnetic forces.

      Certain ancient sites, such as those in the Sacred Valley of Peru and the Carnac region of France, are believed to have electromagnetic properties due to the use of specific stones and their proximity to water sources. Visitors to these sites have reported feeling vibrations or strong energy sensations, which some researchers attribute to the stones' ability to generate electricity or concentrate electromagnetic forces. For instance, the blue gray "throne rock" in Peru and the large quartz-rich stones in Carnac are thought to behave like coils or capacitors, storing and releasing energy. Additionally, a scientific paper suggests that the porous limestone rocks at these sites can generate electricity through the interaction between groundwater and the rocks. Ancient people may have understood and utilized this electrical generating technique for spiritual or ceremonial purposes.

    • Ancient cultures revered electrically active sites, believing gods or spirits resided thereAncient civilizations valued electrically active sites, built structures around them, and left offerings to harness their energy

      Ancient cultures around the world, particularly those in Peru, held a deep understanding and reverence for the electrically active sites they encountered. They built structures around these sites to protect them, with the belief that the gods or spirits still resided there. These sites, often marked by telltale signs like greenish-black mold, were considered portals or places of power. The ancient Peruvians left offerings at these sites, not because they were moldy, but because they believed the energy was still active. A late Egyptian archaeologist, Abdel Hakim Ayan, proposed that implosion energy, not just explosive energy, could be harnessed for power. He suggested that the zigzag walls found at certain sites could be used to channel water and generate power through the sun. These discoveries challenge our modern understanding of ancient cultures and their technological capabilities.

    • Ancient sites may have harnessed electromagnetic energy for agricultureAncient sites like Moira Plateau in Peru and Tiwanaku could have amplified natural electromagnetic energy for agricultural purposes, and structures like Sacsayhuaman in Cusco, Peru, might contain hidden technological advancements.

      Ancient sites, such as those in Tiwanaku and the Moira Plateau in Peru, may have harnessed and amplified existing electromagnetic energy for agricultural purposes. For instance, the Moira Plateau, with its unique concentric circles, is believed to have the ability to grow anything due to this energy amplification. Furthermore, structures like Sacsayhuaman in Cusco, Peru, are discovered to be primarily made of geopolymers, and Russian scientists used advanced georadar technology to detect high humidity and cracks in these structures, suggesting there might be more to these ancient constructions than meets the eye. These findings hint at the advanced knowledge and technological capabilities of ancient civilizations.

    • New discovery challenges beliefs about Incan technologyRecent finding at an Incan site in Peru reveals structures made of geopolymers, challenging historical records and offering new insights into ancient civilization's capabilities

      Recent discoveries at an Incan site in Peru have challenged long-held beliefs about the technology and capabilities of the ancient civilization. The Russians, using georadar and analysis, discovered that the site's structures were made of geopolymers, a material that was reconstituted on site from local quarries. This discovery has been met with skepticism and dismissal by some Peruvian officials, who see it as contradicting historical records and undermining their understanding of the Incas. The Russians argue that geopolymers were commonly used in modern construction and could have been used by the Incas as well. However, the lack of recorded instances of the Incas moving and constructing large stones has fueled doubts about this theory. The discovery has significant implications for the field of archaeology and challenges established narratives about the capabilities of ancient civilizations. It also highlights the importance of continued research and an open-minded approach to understanding history.

    • Ancient civilizations used geopolymers made from salt to create unique structures with vitrified walls.Ancient civilizations used bacteria to create geopolymers from salt, resulting in structures with vitrified walls.

      Ancient civilizations, such as those in Egypt, Tiwanaku, and Puma Punku, had advanced knowledge and technology in creating geopolymers, which were primarily made from salt. These geopolymers were used to create structures with unique properties, including the ability to vitrify, or turn into glass-like surfaces. The discovery of organic matter in these volcanic rocks, which were likely incorporated during the cement mixing stage, suggests that microorganisms played a role in the creation of these geopolymers. The precise method of analysis is unclear, but it's believed that the bacteria's cell walls were fossilized within the stone. The ability to vitrify stone on a large scale is still a mystery, but the use of geopolymers during the heating process may provide an explanation. This technology mix could have allowed ancient civilizations to create structures with unique properties, such as vitrified walls, that have been observed in various archaeological sites.

    • Ancient Technologies Challenging Modern UnderstandingsAncient civilizations may have had more advanced technologies than previously believed, as evidenced by the discovery of a vitrified stamped stone and the exceptional precision of the Barabar Caves, as well as the remarkable capabilities of ancient builders in Hananpaca and Urumpaca.

      There are intriguing examples of advanced ancient technologies that may challenge our current understanding of historical capabilities. The discussion revolved around the discovery of a stamped stone with a serpent design, where only the imprinted area underwent vitrification. This suggests the use of an ancient mold or stamp and heated application of vitrification. Another intriguing discovery was the Barabar Caves in India, which showcase an exceptional level of precision and shine, possibly due to advanced geopolymer technology. These findings challenge the notion that our current technological advancements represent the pinnacle of human achievement. Instead, they suggest that ancient civilizations may have had more advanced technologies that have since been lost to time. The ancient techniques used in Hananpaca and Urumpaca, such as moving large stones in reduced gravitational fields and molding stones in their putty state, further illustrate the remarkable capabilities of ancient builders.

    • Ancient civilizations might have used unconventional methods to construct monumental structuresAncient humans may have had plasticine bodies, allowing them to manipulate the Earth through their will and shape material reality

      Ancient civilizations may have used unconventional methods to construct their monumental structures. Instead of cutting or chiseling stones, they might have used molds and high temperatures to shape them. This method leaves impressions in the stones that can still be seen today. Rudolf Steiner, an unconventional historian, claimed that humans in the distant past had more plasticine bodies that were more subject to internal soul qualities and less influenced by external forces. He described this group as having bodies that changed form whenever their inner lives changed, and even their soul forms became more rigid as the Earth densified. Steiner also suggested that these ancient people could manipulate the Earth through their will and discipline, shaping material reality around them. The lack of tool marks on some ancient monoliths, such as the Hahn and Parker monoliths, supports the possibility that early humans may have had the ability to shape inorganic matter through their force of will.

    • Early humans and first sentient beings were ethereal and manipulated material world using willAccording to spiritual beliefs, early humans and first sentient beings had unique ethereal abilities to manipulate the material world and lived in a lush, tropical environment filled with massive fauna and flora, migrating from other planets to evolve in harsh conditions and return to a lower density.

      According to various spiritual and philosophical beliefs from different time periods, the early humans and even the first sentient beings on Earth were of a more ethereal or denser etheric nature than we are today. This means they had the ability to manipulate the material world using their will, and they lived in an environment filled with massive fauna and flora, thick air, and lush, tropical conditions. These beings migrated to Earth from other planets, like Sirius, to evolve in the harsh conditions and complete their spiritual unfoldment. The idea of returning to a lower density or becoming a lighter density being is a recurring theme in these beliefs. Additionally, the theories suggest that the Earth's atmosphere and geology were vastly different in the past, with deadly gases and saturated carbon and nitrogen, but these beings were not affected by these conditions due to their ethereal nature.

    • Challenging Conventional Understanding of Early Human HistoryThe theory that early humans were ethereal beings unable to leave a physical footprint due to giant fauna and volcanic conditions challenges conventional understanding of human history and the fossil record.

      Camille Servais explores the idea that early humans were ethereal beings who could not leave a physical footprint in the Earth during the Eocene era due to the abundance of giant fauna and volcanic conditions. This theory, based on the works of Blavatsky, Steiner, and others, challenges conventional understanding of human history and the fossil record. Servais also questions how to accurately date the past if there were different orbits and expanding Earth theories, suggesting that the stability of planetary orbits is a basis for current dating methods. Additionally, she proposes that early humans began to densify and leave physical marks in later ages. Servais's book, "Sorcerer's of Stone, Architects of the 3 Ages," delves deeper into these theories and offers intriguing insights into alternative interpretations of ancient history.

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