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    423. Greatness, Marriage, Parenthood, & Climbing New Mountains | Chris Bumstead

    enFebruary 15, 2024

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    • Striving for bodybuilding greatness at the OlympiaTo achieve bodybuilding success, focus, determination, and a structured approach are key, even with the challenges of balancing other life aspects.

      Pursuing a high goal, like becoming a five-time consecutive Mr. Olympia champion in bodybuilding, requires single-minded focus and determination, but comes with the challenge of balancing other aspects of life. Bodybuilding has an amateur and professional league, with the ultimate goal being to compete at the Olympia, the Super Bowl of bodybuilding. Chris Bumstead, at 22 years old, made his professional debut in the classic physique division, which has only been around since 2016. He has won five of the eight years it has existed, making him a trailblazer in the division. Bodybuilding involves bulking and cutting, which means gaining muscle and body fat during the off-season and then losing body fat while maintaining muscle during competition prep. Chris' weight fluctuates between 265-ish during bulking and 240 during competition. The world of bodybuilding is structured with an amateur and professional league, and the ultimate goal is to compete at the Olympia. Pursuing a high goal requires sacrifice and dedication, but the rewards can be significant.

    • Preparing for Bodybuilding Competitions: Balancing Caloric Intake and CardioBodybuilders adjust caloric intake and increase cardio to lose body fat while maintaining muscle mass during competition prep, focusing on appearance over performance.

      Bodybuilding is about making the most of your shape for competitions by adjusting caloric intake and increasing cardio to lose body fat while maintaining muscle mass. The diet consists of building up to a high caloric intake throughout the year, then gradually decreasing it during the 12-16 week prep period. Protein intake stays consistent while carbs and fats are reduced. The focus is on appearance rather than performance, requiring a balance between effective workouts and avoiding excess body fat. Bodybuilding competitions start from local levels for amateurs, with popularity growing as athletes progress to professional levels. Beginning at around 14 years old, bodybuilders like starting weightlifting due to their natural strength and athleticism, and continue to focus on it for the attention and personal satisfaction it brings.

    • Discovering the right guidance and supportFinding a mentor or supportive community can help transform a casual interest into a disciplined practice, leading to benefits like improved posture, coordination, and confidence.

      Finding the right guidance and support can help transform a casual interest into a disciplined practice. The speaker's journey into bodybuilding began when his sister's boyfriend recognized his potential and taught him the intricacies of the sport. Despite initial self-consciousness and lack of knowledge, the speaker's natural athleticism and determination allowed him to overcome obstacles and develop the discipline needed to succeed. By focusing on the benefits, such as improved posture, coordination, and confidence, the speaker was able to enjoy the process and make it a part of his life.

    • Discovering Passion and Discipline Through ConsistencyStarting a new passion or commitment doesn't need initial intense passion, but sticking with it and putting in effort can lead to increased passion and discipline over time.

      Starting a new passion or commitment doesn't require initial intense passion, but rather sticking with it and putting in effort can lead to increased passion and discipline over time. The speaker shared their personal experience with weightlifting, starting as a young child with a natural interest and growing more passionate and consistent as they saw results. They also emphasized the importance of having supportive parents and friends, as well as the encouraging nature of the fitness community. Despite initial anxiety and self-consciousness, the speaker discovered that the gym is not a judgmental place, but rather a community of individuals working to better themselves. It's important to remember that everyone was a beginner at some point and that focusing on personal growth and improvement can help overcome self-consciousness and fear of judgment.

    • Admitting Ignorance: The First Step to GrowthAcknowledging what you don't know and asking questions can lead to growth and mastery. Embrace 'foolishness' to overcome fear and build confidence.

      Embracing your ignorance and allowing yourself to be the "fool" in new situations is a crucial step towards growth and mastery. According to psychoanalyst Carl Jung, the precursor to becoming a redeemer or master is first acknowledging your lack of expertise. By humbly admitting what you don't know and asking questions, you can make incremental progress and eventually surpass your initial position. This mindset is particularly important for those who feel anxious or worried about trying new things, as it can help overcome the fear of being judged or making mistakes. This concept, known as "foolishness," can lead to increased confidence and improvement in various aspects of life. Additionally, voluntarily confronting fears, such as public speaking, can be an effective way to overcome anxiety and build resilience.

    • Personal growth leads to profound changesPersonal growth can lead to physical and genetic changes, making you more courageous and potentially impacting future generations.

      Personal growth and development, such as overcoming a fear of public speaking, can lead to profound changes at every level of your being, including physical and genetic changes. This process of growth not only helps you confront your fears but also makes you a more courageous person. For instance, someone with a speech impediment and fear of public speaking can work on embracing their vulnerabilities and redefining their self-perception to become more comfortable speaking in front of large audiences. This journey involves acknowledging and even enjoying the feelings of fear and nervousness as opportunities for growth rather than signs of paralysis. The field of epigenetics suggests that these behavioral changes could potentially be transmitted to future generations. So, embracing challenges and working on personal development can lead to significant and long-lasting changes.

    • Be true to yourself when speaking in publicFocus on authenticity to build self-confidence and connect with audience. Remember not everyone will like you, but focus on sharing ideas and connecting with like-minded individuals. Shift mindset to gratitude and excitement, and make audience comfortable to reduce self-consciousness.

      When speaking in public, it's essential to focus on being true to yourself rather than trying to please the audience. This authenticity can lead to increased self-confidence and genuine connection with your audience. It's important to remember that not everyone will like you, but that's okay. Instead, focus on the opportunity to share your thoughts and ideas, and the excitement of connecting with others who are interested in what you have to say. Additionally, shifting your mindset to one of gratitude for the opportunity and excitement for the experience can help alleviate fear and anxiety. Lastly, focusing on making your audience comfortable and welcome can also help reduce self-consciousness and improve your overall communication.

    • Reframing anxiety as excitementChanging the perception of anxiety to excitement can help individuals better handle high-stakes situations and approach new opportunities with confidence and joy.

      Reframing anxiety as excitement can help individuals better handle high-stakes situations, such as public speaking or performing. The body's natural response to new opportunities is heightened arousal, which can tilt towards anxiety if feared. By changing the perception of these feelings, individuals can learn to interpret them as excitement and withstand the anxiety until it decreases once the event begins. The speaker's experience of competing in bodybuilding competitions, where they were judged based on their physique and performance, also contributed to their anxiety. However, they differentiated this from the fear of public speaking by recognizing that the root cause of their anxiety stemmed from childhood experiences of public humiliation. By understanding the origins of their anxiety and reframing it as excitement, individuals can approach new opportunities with confidence and joy.

    • Bodybuilding success doesn't guarantee public speaking comfortFear and challenges are present in all areas of life, even for those who have achieved success. It's important to confront fears and work to improve, rather than waiting for a supposedly secure position.

      Experience and success in one area of life do not automatically translate to comfort and confidence in another area. For bodybuilder Chris Bumstead, his experience and success on stage did not eliminate his nerves or anxiety when it came to public speaking. Instead, he had to deliberately work on his public speaking skills and confront his fears to improve. Additionally, the stakes and expectations in public speaking are different than those in bodybuilding, leading to unique pressures and fears. It's a common misconception that once we achieve a certain level of success or security, we will automatically be free of fear or anxiety. However, the reality is that fear and challenges are a constant presence in life, regardless of our level of success. The key is to make the decision to confront those fears and work to improve, rather than waiting for a supposedly secure position to speak or act from.

    • Embracing challenges for personal growthOvercoming challenges, both physically and mentally, leads to personal growth and self-discovery. Be present with emotions instead of suppressing them for a fulfilling experience.

      Personal growth and self-discovery often come from facing and overcoming challenges. This was a theme that emerged in the conversation, with the speaker sharing how his experiences in bodybuilding have led him to value the process of pushing himself beyond his limits, both physically and mentally. He emphasized the importance of being present with emotions, rather than suppressing them, in order to fully experience the joy and growth that come with success. The speaker also acknowledged the importance of continuing to seek new challenges, even after achieving significant accomplishments, as a way to continue growing and finding meaning in life. The conversation touched on the idea that the most valuable experiences often involve some degree of suffering, but that this suffering is worth enduring in order to grow and discover new aspects of oneself.

    • Prioritize multiple areas of growthImagine yourself five years in the future and focus on character development and pursuing interests for holistic growth.

      Personal growth and becoming a better person involves taking on various challenges, not just focusing on one difficult mountain to climb. Life presents us with numerous opportunities for growth, such as being a father or improving relationships, in addition to professional or personal achievements. It's essential to prioritize these areas and strive for depth and growth in each aspect. A practical exercise for envisioning future growth is through self-authoring, which involves imagining oneself five years in the future and considering what kind of person one would want to be, focusing on character development and pursuing interests.

    • Exploring the question of what we truly want in lifeSurround yourself with positivity, repair relationships, pursue education, consider serving others, seek mastery and efficiency, approach passions with playfulness, and remember it's a journey with new opportunities at every stage.

      Discovering what we truly want in life can be a challenging question, but breaking it down into smaller, manageable areas can provide clarity. Surrounding ourselves with positive influences, repairing relationships, pursuing education, and considering how we can serve others are all important aspects to consider. Mastery and efficiency can also be motivating factors, and the ability to approach our passions with a playful spirit is a sign of true mastery. As we progress through life, it's important to remember that there may not be one definitive answer or goal, but rather a series of mountains to climb and master. Additionally, the spirit of play can bring immense joy and productivity to our relationships, particularly with children. At a pinnacle in your career, it's essential to consider what's beckoning and calling to you, and where you see your life progressing. Remember, it's never too late to explore new opportunities and make a positive impact on yourself and those around you.

    • Balancing Personal and Professional GoalsRecognize the importance of balancing personal and professional goals, and be authentic and vulnerable to inspire others.

      Focusing on one thing to excel at may come at the cost of other areas of life. Bodybuilder Phil Heath shared how he realized his goal to be the best father and husband required him to prioritize those roles over his bodybuilding career, which had taken too much of his time and energy. Heath also emphasized the importance of vulnerability and authenticity in inspiring others, as evidenced by a heartfelt letter from a young fan who had been bullied and found courage through Heath's openness. Heath's experience underscores the importance of balancing personal and professional goals and recognizing the impact one can have on others through authenticity and vulnerability.

    • The interconnectedness of personal growth and helping othersHelping others grow is deeply fulfilling and essential for comprehensive personal development. Focusing too much on one area can limit growth, but stepping back to help others can lead to a more balanced and successful life.

      Personal growth and helping others grow are interconnected. The speaker's passion for bodybuilding has led him to help others through sharing his journey, and he sees this as a deeply fulfilling experience. Jocko Willink, a disciplined and successful military leader, also found meaning in modeling appropriate conduct and helping others develop. To achieve great success, one must be hyper-focused, but there is a cost to this, as it becomes harder to balance other important areas of life. Ultimately, stepping back from an obsessive focus can lead to a more comprehensively developed personality with no limit to growth.

    • Authenticity and vulnerability build connectionsBeing authentic and emotionally honest can foster relatability and inspire younger generations. Admitting weaknesses and vulnerabilities can create meaningful relationships and connections.

      Being authentic and emotionally honest, even in the face of success, can help build connections with others and create a relatable and inspiring persona. Admitting to weaknesses and vulnerabilities can open doors for younger generations to identify with and learn from more experienced individuals. Speaking the truth, even when nervous, can foster relatability and authenticity. Prioritizing meaningful relationships and connections, rather than sacrificing them for success, can lead to long-term happiness and fulfillment. Finding a supportive partner who shares similar goals can also bolster the entire endeavor and keep the relationship strong.

    • Addressing challenges in relationshipsEffective communication and facing issues head-on are essential for a strong relationship. Addressing challenges as they arise leads to a more optimized and exciting partnership.

      Effective communication and facing issues head-on are crucial elements in building a strong and healthy relationship. By taking responsibility for their own personal issues and committing to speaking the truth, the couple was able to create a trusting and loving environment where they could grow together. They learned that addressing challenges as they arise, rather than letting them pile up, leads to a more optimized and exciting relationship. Their willingness to be vulnerable with each other and hold each other accountable allowed them to build a strong foundation for their marriage and the addition of a new family member.

    • Relationships enhance successHealthy relationships provide emotional support and understanding, allowing individuals to grow and overcome challenges together, deepening their connection and making successes more meaningful.

      A healthy and meaningful relationship doesn't hinder success but rather enhances it by providing emotional support and understanding. The speaker shared how his wife helped him confront his own issues and emotions, allowing him to grow and overcome challenges. He emphasized that relationships are about dealing with each other's problems, no matter who brings them to the table. By facing these issues together, the couple deepens their connection and trust, making their successes more profound and rewarding. Ultimately, the speaker expressed gratitude for the opportunity to share experiences and moments of triumph with someone who loves and accepts him for who he truly is.

    • Celebrating achievements with loved onesDeepest joy in sharing victories with loved ones > public acclaim or awards. Focus on partner's readiness for parenthood, prioritize career if needed, and start interacting with babies early.

      The deepest celebration of achievements comes from sharing them with loved ones who have been through the journey with you. The speaker shares a heartfelt moment about embracing his wife during a victory, feeling a sense of connection and shared victory. He emphasizes that this experience is more meaningful than public acclaim or awards. Regarding entering parenthood, the speaker suggests understanding your partner's readiness and focusing on your career if necessary. He also recommends starting to play and interact with babies as early as possible, as your role is to support your wife during pregnancy, childbirth, and recovery.

    • The first six months of a new baby's life: Mother's role to care, Father's role to supportDuring the first six months, mothers focus on baby care while fathers support. This bonding period is vital for attachment and preventing future issues. Older siblings need guidance, and communication between partners is essential to maintain a strong bond.

      During the first six months of a new baby's life, the mother's primary responsibility is to care for the baby, and the father's role is to support her. This period is crucial for the baby's attachment and bonding with the mother, and if disrupted, can cause long-term issues. It's essential to understand that the mother will be absent from the father's life for six months, but if the father takes care of her, she will return, bringing an invaluable bond with the new child. In the case of multiple children, it's essential to teach the older sibling to take care of the newborn and establish a relationship with them, preventing sibling rivalry and jealousy. Effective communication between partners during intense periods is also vital to prevent resentment and maintain a strong bond.

    • Maintaining Relationship During First Six Months of ParenthoodMake time for each other amidst new parenthood responsibilities, prioritize dates or quality time to keep connection strong.

      Having a baby can put a strain on a couple's relationship if they don't prioritize each other. The first six months can be particularly challenging as the wife adjusts to motherhood and the husband may feel left out. Resentments can build if not managed properly, and it's essential to make a conscious effort to maintain the relationship. Regular dates or quality time together should be scheduled, even if it starts out simple and gradually becomes more frequent and meaningful over time. Preemptive planning is crucial to ensure that connection remains a priority amidst the new responsibilities and challenges of parenthood.

    • Achieving balance in relationships and personal growthUnderstand individual needs, plan time for togetherness and personal development, embrace change, and lean on family and support systems for greater experiences and personal growth.

      Finding balance in relationships and personal growth is crucial for overall happiness and fulfillment. This balance can be achieved through self-awareness and understanding individual needs, as well as planning time for togetherness and for personal development. Just as athletes know when to transition from their peak performance to new challenges, individuals can also embrace change and discover new mountains to conquer. This process may not be easy, but it can lead to even greater experiences and personal growth. Additionally, the importance of family and support systems during these transitions cannot be overstated.

    • Sharing challenges can benefit ourselves and othersEngaging in meaningful conversations about challenges can provide insights, inspiration, and growth for all involved

      Being open and honest about the challenges we face can be beneficial not only for ourselves but also for others. Listening to those who have gone through similar struggles can provide valuable insights and inspiration. Charles and Chris's conversation was a great example of this, as they discussed the obstacles they've encountered and the steps they've taken to overcome them. By sharing their experiences, they offered a service to their audience and helped each other process and learn. It's important to remember that everyone's time and attention is valuable, and engaging in meaningful conversations can be an honor and a source of growth.

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