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    5: Givers, takers, matchers and fakers

    enDecember 21, 2014

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    • Exploring Success, Creativity, and Human Potential with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman and Adam GrantTwo esteemed thought leaders discuss their shared interests in success, creativity, and human potential through their personal and professional lives in a psychology podcast.

      SYMBIONICA offers all natural, great tasting supplements made from premium plant-based ingredients, free from seed oils, fillers, and toxins. CVS Health is committed to providing quality healthcare services and support in various ways, including in-person and virtually. Viking offers all-inclusive, destination-focused cruises through Europe with no children or casinos. In the psychology podcast, Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman and Adam Grant, a professor at the Wharton School and author, share similar interests and values, particularly in the areas of success, creativity, and human potential. These themes have been recurring in both their personal and professional lives. While they may not be friends in the traditional sense yet, they share a deep curiosity and a desire to explore the truth of these topics.

    • Understanding Different Types of Relationships and StylesSocialize introverts understand the importance of social connections but also need solitude. Four relationship styles - givers, takers, matchers, and fakers - can help us navigate interactions effectively.

      There are different types of relationships and people, including those who fall between friends and acquaintances, whom we may call colleagues. Introverts and extroverts both have a need for social connection, but introverts may feel overwhelmed in large social settings and recharge through solitude. The speaker identifies as a sociable introvert and finds that her career as a professor and public speaker allows her to share ideas while still maintaining a quieter lifestyle. The speaker also mentions Susan Cain's book on introversion, which helped her understand herself better. In the world of relationships, there are four main styles: givers, takers, matchers, and fakers. These styles describe how individuals approach relationships and interactions with others. Understanding these styles can help us navigate our relationships more effectively.

    • Understanding Givers, Takers, and MatchersIdentifying someone's default approach to interacting with people can help navigate relationships effectively. Some individuals may have a strong compulsion to give, making it challenging to say no.

      We all have tendencies towards being givers, takers, or matchers in our interactions with others. Givers are those who enjoy helping others with no strings attached, while takers are those who focus more on getting from others. Matchers aim for an even balance of give and take. However, our behaviors can shift based on specific situations. The challenge lies in identifying someone's default approach to interacting with people. Additionally, research suggests that some individuals may have a strong compulsion to give, making it difficult for them to say no to requests. Understanding these tendencies can help us navigate our relationships more effectively.

    • The Complexity of Giving and ReceivingBeing nice doesn't always mean being a doormat. Gruff people with good intentions and guilt-driven givers are examples of the complexity of giving and receiving. Long-term relationships value givers over takers, and good communication skills are essential, but giving and prioritizing others' needs can lead to positive outcomes.

      Being nice and agreeable can make it difficult to set boundaries and say no, even when it's necessary for the greater good. Some people, referred to as "porcupines with a heart of gold," may be gruff and tough on the surface but have others' best interests at heart. Neuroticism and guilt, particularly in cultures that emphasize these emotions, can also play a role in motivating people to give. While takers may initially seem attractive or confident, research suggests that givers are more desirable in long-term relationships and marriages. Confidence and good communication skills are important, but they don't necessarily indicate that someone will make a good partner. Overall, the ability to give and prioritize others' needs can lead to positive outcomes in various domains of life.

    • Be thoughtful givers, not doormatsThoughtful givers prioritize who, how, and when they help to avoid being taken advantage of, and schools can encourage givers by rewarding their contributions to group goals.

      Being a giver and avoiding being a doormat requires thoughtfulness and alignment with one's interests and expertise. Givers should be vigilant about who they help, how they help, and when they help, to ensure they're not being taken advantage of. The culture often emphasizes being self-reliant over being giving, but schools could encourage givers by rewarding their contributions to group goals. For instance, the jigsaw classroom model, which values interdependence and group success, could be a solution to the competitive educational environment. This approach can lead to a more cooperative and fulfilling life, as most situations are not zero-sum.

    • Collaboration and giving creditEncouraging collaboration and giving credit to others can lead to positive outcomes for all involved, while withholding credit can limit opportunities for growth and recognition

      Encouraging collaboration and giving credit where it's due can benefit everyone involved, rather than being a zero-sum game. The professor's experience of allowing undergraduates to be co-authors on a paper resulted in positive outcomes for all parties involved. Contrarily, withholding credit can limit opportunities for growth and recognition for those who deserve it. An example of this is the case of Jonas Salk, who created the polio vaccine but failed to acknowledge the crucial contributions of others, including those who had paved the way for his discovery. By embracing collaboration and giving credit, we can all shine and contribute to the greater good.

    • The importance of acknowledging and giving creditRecognizing team contributions builds positive relationships and respect, while neglecting to do so can lead to shunning and a lack of collaboration.

      Acknowledging and giving credit to those who contribute to our successes is important for building positive relationships and recognition within our respective fields. The story of Jonas Salk's oversight in acknowledging his team's contributions contrasts starkly with George Meyer's selflessness in enhancing the work of others, even if it meant taking a back seat in the limelight. While some may argue that Salk's groundbreaking work overshadowed the need for recognition, his neglect of acknowledging his team left him shunned by the scientific community. On the other hand, Meyer's selfless approach to comedy writing, where he focused on improving the work of others, earned him the respect and admiration of his peers, leading to his return to the Simpsons and inclusion in the movie. Ultimately, the power of acknowledgment and giving credit extends beyond personal recognition and can lead to stronger, more collaborative work environments.

    • Recognizing Taking Behavior in RelationshipsBecoming self-aware of our impact on others and striving for a better balance between giving and taking is crucial for personal growth and better relationships. Overestimating our own generosity and underestimating others' can lead to taking behavior. Signs include difficulty being trusted, feeling underappreciated, and a sense of entitlement.

      Understanding the dynamics of giving and taking in relationships is crucial for personal growth and better interactions with others. Some people, despite their beliefs, may unknowingly take more than they give. Signs of being a taker include having a hard time being trusted, feeling underappreciated, and carrying a sense of entitlement. Research suggests that people tend to overestimate their own generosity and underestimate others'. To become more self-aware, it's essential to calibrate our impact on others and strive for a better balance between giving and taking. This can be challenging, as receiving feedback can be difficult. However, recognizing the signs of taking behavior and being open to feedback are essential steps towards becoming a more balanced and considerate person.

    • Covert Narcissists: Disguised SelfishnessRecognize covert narcissists' manipulative actions, understand the difference between taking and receiving, and value relationships for long-term success and reputation.

      There are covert narcissists who disguise their narcissistic tendencies by presenting themselves as the most helpful and generous individuals. However, their actions often stem from a desire to win and outdo others, rather than genuine selflessness. It's important to recognize the signs of taking behavior, such as excessive image crafting and an imbalance in relationships, as they may indicate underlying insecurity. Receiving and asking for help are essential skills that often get overlooked, and it's crucial to understand the difference between taking and receiving. Our success and reputation depend significantly on others, and the concept of "what goes around comes around" holds true. An interesting perspective on legacy was raised during the discussion, suggesting that Steve Jobs may still be around in 50 years but forgotten, while Bill Gates may be remembered despite Microsoft potentially fading away.

    • Individual achievements are measured by their impact on the worldSteve Jobs' innovations may fade, but Bill Gates' efforts to address global issues leave a lasting legacy. Malcolm Gladwell's work makes complex ideas accessible and paves the way for storytelling.

      The impact of individuals' achievements is not determined by their personal accomplishments, but by how those achievements contribute to the world. For instance, Steve Jobs' technological innovations may be surpassed in the future, but Bill Gates' efforts to address global issues like access to information, poverty, and health disparities are likely to leave a more lasting legacy. Additionally, Malcolm Gladwell has made social science accessible and interesting to a broader audience, making it essential for organizations and public intellectuals. Despite criticisms of oversimplification and cherry-picking, Gladwell's work paves the way for storytelling and synthesizing complex ideas for various perspectives. However, it's important to remember that no single individual holds a monopoly on translating complex ideas, and there are many valuable contributors to this field. In the end, the value of Gladwell's work lies in its ability to make important studies and compelling stories accessible to a wider audience.

    • The debate around emotional intelligence's importanceWhile emotional intelligence has value, focusing on understanding and helping employees is more crucial for job performance.

      The importance of emotional intelligence in the workplace and in life has been overemphasized, and there is a need to balance it with other factors such as IQ and the ability to help and understand others. The debate around emotional intelligence is essential for social science, but it's crucial to ensure that the evidence supports the investment of time and resources into related training and hiring practices. Emotional intelligence is not just about being nice or having social skills; it's a narrower set of abilities related to recognizing and managing emotions. While emotional intelligence has its value, it's not as important as many people believe for job performance. Instead, focusing on understanding and helping employees and their goals can lead to more significant benefits. The pendulum has swung too far in the direction of emotional intelligence, and it's time to consider the importance of other factors, such as IQ, in human potential.

    • Be open-minded and efficient in giving favorsPractice open-mindedness and balance giving and taking, use '5-minute favors' to make meaningful contributions without overextending.

      Being open-minded and willing to adapt our beliefs based on new evidence is crucial for growth as scholars and individuals. However, it's essential to balance giving and taking, and not overextend ourselves to the point of exhaustion. The concept of a "5-minute favor" can help us give more efficiently and effectively, whether we're givers, takers, or matchers. By finding small ways to add significant value to others' lives, we can make a positive impact without compromising our ability to help those who need us most. Remember, the goal is to prioritize and contribute in unique ways, rather than spreading ourselves too thin.

    • Expressing gratitude, offering feedback, and making introductions can build meaningful connections.Small actions like expressing gratitude, offering feedback, and making introductions can add value to someone's day or even their career.

      Small actions can make a significant impact on others and contribute to building meaningful connections. This can be achieved through expressing gratitude, offering feedback, or making introductions. These actions may only take a few minutes but can add value to someone's day or even their career. Additionally, the importance of prioritizing health and wellness was emphasized, whether it be through virtual or in-person care, mental health support, or self-care activities. Ultimately, small acts of kindness and prioritizing wellness can lead to positive outcomes for both individuals and communities.

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