#527 - Ms. Pat

Podcast Summary

• A candid conversation about raw comedic styles and personal struggles: Nick Diaz discusses his training for his fight against Anderson Silva, but the conversation with Joe Rogan takes an unexpected turn towards Miss Pat's raw and unfiltered comedic style and their shared experiences of hardships, including drug use, abortion, and the impact of these experiences on their lives.

  Nick Diaz is focused on his training for his upcoming fight against Anderson Silva, but the conversation with Joe Rogan took a turn when the topic shifted to Miss Pat, a comedian who has been compared to Joey Diaz due to their raw and unfiltered comedic styles. Both Miss Pat and Joey Diaz have experienced hardships in their lives, including the absence of their fathers and the decision to have abortions. The conversation touched on sensitive topics like drug use, abortion, and the contrasting reactions to these issues from different communities. The discussion also highlighted the challenges faced by teenage mothers and the impact of their experiences on their lives. Despite the difficult topics, the conversation was filled with humor and honesty, reflecting the comedians' unique styles.

• Overcoming poverty and harmful environments: Breaking the cycle of poverty and surrounding oneself with positive influences are crucial for success. Everyone deserves opportunities for a better future.

  Everyone's circumstances are unique, and it's essential to understand the systemic issues that can hinder people from achieving success. The speaker shares her experience of growing up in poverty and turning to selling drugs due to lack of opportunities. She emphasizes the importance of breaking the cycle and ensuring her children had better opportunities than she did. The speaker also highlights the impact of environment and the importance of surrounding oneself with positive influences. She learned this lesson late in life, around 17, after enduring an abusive relationship. The speaker's determination led her to become the first person in her family to graduate high school and go to college. Her story is a powerful reminder that everyone deserves opportunities for success and that it's crucial to challenge harmful stereotypes and provide support to those in need.

• From Violence and Poverty to Comedy and Hope: Despite facing challenges like violence, drug use, and poverty, the human spirit can find ways to cope, provide for loved ones, and even turn hardships into opportunities. However, it's crucial to address the systemic issues that perpetuate generational poverty and the harm caused by the war on drugs.

  The speaker's childhood was marked by violence, drug use, and a cycle of poverty and incarceration. Despite these challenges, the speaker found a way to turn their experiences into comedy as a means of coping and providing for their family. The speaker's determination to break free from their past and create a better life for themselves and their children is a testament to the human spirit's resilience. However, the speaker's story also highlights the systemic issues that contribute to generational poverty and the harm caused by the war on drugs. It's important to remember that behind every statistic or headline, there is a human story that deserves compassion and understanding.

• Sharing painful experiences can lead to humor and healing: Despite difficult past experiences, we have the power to learn, forgive, and use our stories for comedy and self-reflection

  Everyone has a story to tell, and sometimes it's through sharing those experiences, even the painful ones, that we can find humor and healing. The speaker in this conversation shares her personal experiences of growing up in challenging circumstances and how she eventually found humor in her own story. She also discusses the cyclical nature of family patterns and the impact of past experiences on present behavior. Despite the difficult experiences she had, she learned to forgive and move on, using her experiences as material for comedy and self-reflection. It's a reminder that our past doesn't define us, but rather, it's how we choose to respond to it that shapes our future.

• The Impact of Adversity on Moral Decisions: Growing up in difficult circumstances can lead to poor decisions without proper guidance, and individuals may act on instincts rather than morals, resulting in harmful behaviors. Resilience and overcoming adversity are admirable qualities.

  Growing up in difficult circumstances can lead individuals to make poor decisions, and the lack of proper guidance can result in a lack of moral compass. This was evident in the discussion about a man who took advantage of a young girl, justifying his actions by focusing on her physical maturity rather than her age or consent. The speaker emphasized that without constant moral impartation, people can act on their instincts, which can be overwhelming and lead to harmful behaviors. Despite these challenges, the speaker admired the resilience of those who manage to overcome adversity and build successful lives. The conversation also touched on the stark contrast between privileged and disadvantaged upbringings, with the speaker expressing gratitude for her children's relatively stable lives and acknowledging that many face far more significant struggles. The discussion also touched on various forms of contagious diseases and their potential impact on society.

• The danger of infectious diseases: Naturally occurring diseases like anthrax pose a significant threat to humanity, and the potential for deadly mutant strains and mass casualties is a major concern in today's interconnected world

  The potential threat of infectious diseases, both natural and man-made, poses a significant danger to humanity. The discussion highlights the fear of anthrax, a naturally occurring bacterial disease, and its potential to wipe out the entire population if released in large quantities. The conversation also touches upon the possibility of two or more viruses interacting and creating mutant strains that could evade antibiotics and antiviral drugs. Furthermore, the ease with which a disease could spread, especially in today's interconnected world, adds to the concern. The potential for mass casualties, as seen in conflicts like the one in Israel, further underscores the importance of being vigilant and aware of the threat.

• Reality of poverty and violence in Brazil's ghetto areas: Acknowledge and address societal issues to help those in need and create a better world. Empathy and understanding are key.

  The movie "City of God" portrays the harsh realities of poverty and violence in the ghetto areas of Brazil. The living conditions are primitive, and the drug dealers are ruthless and violent. This is a reminder that no matter how bad things may seem, there are always people with worse circumstances. The movie was based on real scenarios, and during the World Cup, there were fears of the violence spilling over. The speaker emphasizes that it's important to acknowledge and address societal issues, as some people need help to improve their situations rather than being pulled up by their bootstraps. The speaker's personal experience of transitioning from a life of selling drugs to getting a job illustrates the challenges faced by those trying to escape poverty. The term "trap" was used back then to describe the areas where drug sales occurred, and the speaker suggests using this term to refer to problematic situations in general. Overall, the discussion underscores the importance of empathy, understanding, and addressing societal issues to create a better world.

• Childhood experiences and environment shape criminal activities: Past experiences and family background can influence individuals to engage in criminal activities, but support and guidance from loved ones can help them turn their lives around

  The speaker's past experiences and environment shaped her actions and choices, leading her to engage in criminal activities and eventually meet her husband who helped her turn her life around. Despite coming from a stable family background, the speaker didn't have the same upbringing and was drawn to criminal activities during the crack epidemics. Her husband, attracted to her go-getter attitude, encouraged her to change her ways and offered guidance. The speaker then passed on her criminal enterprise to her niece at a young age, creating a system to keep the business running while she focused on her relationship. Ultimately, the speaker's experiences and the influence of her family history played a significant role in shaping her life trajectory.

• Experience with a corrupt judge: Power and corruption can distort the legal system, leading to unfair outcomes. Ethical leadership is crucial to uphold justice and prevent corruption.

  Power and corruption can easily influence the legal system, as illustrated in the speaker's experience with a judge who allegedly demanded bribes for reduced bonds. Growing up in a criminal environment, the speaker was unaware of the consequences of her actions until she was arrested multiple times. Despite having money and connections, she was not untouchable and learned the hard way that crime does not pay. The speaker's experience highlights the importance of ethical leadership and the potential dangers of unchecked power. The legal system should be held accountable for upholding justice fairly and without bias.

• The speaker's mistrust of power and institutions: The speaker advocates for democratic decision-making and questions the legitimacy of those in power, drawing on personal experiences and the damaging effects of incarceration on family bonds.

  The speaker expresses a strong distrust and disdain for the power and authority of institutions and individuals in positions of power, particularly the judiciary. He believes that no one is deserving of such power and that decisions should be made democratically. He shares personal experiences, including time spent in jail, which shaped his perspective on the strength of those who have faced adversity and the damaging effects of incarceration on family bonds. He also touches on the topic of homophobia within the black community, attributing it to historical religious beliefs and the legacy of slavery.

• A mother's journey towards accepting her gay daughter: Through love and acceptance, a mother overcomes her biases and strengthens her bond with her daughter, recognizing the importance of following one's passions despite challenges

  Despite initial prejudices and struggles, a mother learns to accept and support her gay daughter, recognizing that love and acceptance are more important than discrimination and judgment. The mother's journey towards acceptance involves overcoming her own biases and recognizing the importance of her daughter's happiness. This experience ultimately strengthens their bond and allows the mother to be proud of her daughter's achievements. Additionally, the mother reflects on the importance of education and the value of following one's passions, despite the challenges that may come along the way.

• From troubled past to successful comedian: Embrace your past and share unique experiences to connect with audiences through relatable and hilarious jokes

  Personal experiences and authenticity are essential elements in comedy. The speaker shares her journey from a troubled past to finding success as a comedian. Initially, she tried to blend in and follow the crowd, but when she was forced to change environments, she discovered the power of sharing her unique story. She learned that everyone has experiences worth sharing, and being true to oneself is key to connecting with an audience. The speaker's success came from embracing her past and turning her life experiences into relatable and hilarious jokes.

• Growing up in a chaotic and violent household: Despite adapting to a dangerous environment, past traumas can resurface and inspire personal growth through coping mechanisms like comedy.

  The speaker grew up in a chaotic and violent household where their mother's erratic behavior included shooting holes in the ceiling and threatening them with a shotgun. The speaker and their siblings learned to adapt to this dangerous environment, but the trauma stayed with them. The speaker used humor as a coping mechanism to deal with the pain and later became a comedian, but the memories of their past continued to resurface. The speaker's grandmother ran a bootleg house where they were tasked with helping a disabled uncle with his sexual encounters. The speaker's mother held controversial beliefs about domestic violence and encouraged the speaker and their siblings to physically harm their mother if they suspected infidelity. The speaker's experiences shaped their perspective on life and motivated them to find a way to process and make sense of their past through comedy.

• Grew up in a challenging environment with a difficult mother: Despite facing adversity, including physical abuse and witnessing drug use, the speaker persevered and raised her children.

  The speaker grew up in a challenging environment with a difficult mother. She was a candy lady in the projects, selling treats to help make ends meet, but faced opposition from authorities. One incident resulted in her being beaten and left with a damaged spine, which caused her to struggle with holding her neck up while driving. Despite her challenges, she persevered and raised her children, but the speaker recalls witnessing violent and disturbing incidents in their home. Another neighbor, who the speaker believed was taking diabetic medication, was actually shooting heroin, leading to bizarre and confusing behavior. These experiences shaped the speaker's upbringing and exposed them to a harsh reality.

• Stories of human adaptability to unusual environments: People can adapt to extreme and unusual circumstances, considering them normal due to their familiarity

  People are incredibly adaptable to their environments, even in the most unusual circumstances. The speaker shares stories of living in a wild and chaotic neighborhood, where people fought openly and some were even naked and on drugs. Despite the craziness, the speaker and those around her considered it normal because it was their reality. Another story involves the speaker, then only 10 or 11 years old, going downtown to explore the world of rich white people and getting paid to jack off a man's dick. While shocking, the speaker's mother wanted to join her. These stories illustrate the adaptability of humans to their surroundings, no matter how strange or extreme.

• Childhood experiences shape our future: Despite challenging upbringings, one can find resilience and success through humor and supportive relationships

  Childhood experiences, no matter how difficult or unusual, can shape a person's life and influence their future in profound ways. The speaker's experiences of growing up in a chaotic environment, being taken advantage of, and eventually finding support from unexpected sources, have all contributed to who she is today. Her ability to find humor in her past and use it as material for her comedy act is a testament to her resilience and strength. Additionally, the impact of a single person, like her fourth-grade teacher, can have a lasting effect on a child's life, providing them with the belief and encouragement they need to succeed. Despite the challenges she faced, the speaker has become a successful comedian, proving that one can overcome adversity and make something positive out of even the most difficult circumstances.

• Using comedy to cope with past traumas: The speaker shares her personal journey of using comedy to heal from past traumas and encourages audiences to find strength in their own struggles, emphasizing the importance of supportive relationships and self-care.

  Everyone has a unique story and experiences in life that shape who they are. The speaker shares her own story of dealing with past traumas and how she used comedy as a way to cope and find strength. She also talks about how supportive relationships can make a significant difference in one's life and career. The speaker's honesty and vulnerability on stage resonated with audiences, allowing them to see their own struggles in a new light. Through her experiences, she encourages others to recognize that their lives may not be as bad as they think and that they too can find the courage to face their challenges head-on. Additionally, the importance of self-care and making positive changes for one's health, such as her husband's decision to become a vegan, was also highlighted.

• Man survives 40 days on water: A man survived without food for 40 days, but it's not recommended or healthy to try this extreme feat.

  A man was able to survive without food for 40 days by living only on water. However, this is an extreme case and not recommended, as the average person can only survive without food for a week to a month. The man's story is remarkable, and he reportedly lost a significant amount of weight and saw improvements in his skin during this time. Upon returning to eating, he started with fruits to gradually reintroduce food into his system. The man's ability to survive on water for such an extended period is a testament to his mental and physical strength, but it's important to note that this is not a healthy or sustainable way to live.

• Overcoming Life's Challenges: A Woman's Journey: Persevere through life's challenges, adapt to new situations, seek knowledge, communicate openly with healthcare providers, and maintain a positive attitude for improved well-being.

  Life's challenges can lead us to make significant changes, as demonstrated by the woman's experiences with her husband's jail time, her struggles with dieting and caffeine, and her health concerns. These experiences highlight the importance of perseverance, adaptability, and seeking knowledge to improve one's well-being. Additionally, the conversation sheds light on the impact of lifestyle choices on health and the importance of open communication with healthcare providers. Despite the challenges, the woman maintains a sense of humor and resilience, showcasing the power of maintaining a positive attitude during difficult times.

• Women's unique health concerns and body image issues: Women face a wider range of health issues than men, including breast cancer, vaginal health, and body shape after childbirth. Societal pressures can lead to unrealistic expectations and dissatisfaction, but focusing on personal well-being is key.

  There is a significant difference in the health concerns and body image issues that women face compared to men. While men primarily have to deal with potential issues related to their reproductive organs, women have a wider range of concerns including breast cancer, vaginal health, and body shape after childbirth. Some women opt for cosmetic surgeries to address these issues, but the results and recovery process can vary greatly. The pressure to conform to societal standards of beauty, often influenced by pornography, can lead to unrealistic expectations and dissatisfaction with one's body. It's important for individuals to focus on their own well-being and prioritize their health over societal pressures.

• Cultural Obsession with Plastic Surgery in Korea: Many women in Korea prioritize specific surgeries like the 'anime eye', leading to a uniform look and societal pressure to conform to beauty standards.

  There's a cultural obsession with plastic surgery in Korea, leading many women to adopt a uniform look, with a focus on specific surgeries like the "anime eye." Some individuals have gone to extreme lengths for cosmetic enhancements, leading to a homogenized appearance among women. The discussion also touched upon the sale of labia and the potential for plastic surgery in other parts of the body. While some find this trend alarming, others see it as a cultural norm. Ultimately, the conversation highlighted the lengths people will go to in the pursuit of beauty and the societal pressure to conform to certain standards.

• Assumptions and misunderstandings can lead to conflicts over marine life: Appearances can be deceiving, communication and understanding are crucial in resolving conflicts, and assumptions about others can be harmful.

  Arrogance and ignorance can lead to misunderstandings and unnecessary conflict, even over seemingly insignificant matters like the treatment of marine life. The speaker shares an encounter with a woman who intervened in a situation where fishermen had accidentally caught a manta ray. Her appearance and demeanor led the speaker to make assumptions about her life and relationships, but ultimately, the situation was resolved when it was clear that the fishermen had no intention of harming the manta ray. The incident serves as a reminder that appearances can be deceiving and that communication and understanding are crucial in resolving conflicts. Additionally, the conversation touches on the topic of plastic surgery and its potential risks and consequences.

• Extreme Measures for Physical Appearances: A Look at Lip and Butt Implants: While some plastic surgeries can enhance appearance, others come with health risks and societal pressure. Consider natural features and self-acceptance before undergoing procedures.

  People go to extreme lengths for physical appearances, particularly when it comes to body modifications. The discussion revolves around the topic of plastic surgery, specifically lip and butt implants. The speaker expresses her opinion that some procedures are successful, while others are botched. She also mentions the potential health risks associated with certain procedures and the societal pressure on women to conform to certain beauty standards. Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes the importance of self-acceptance and the value of natural features. She encourages people to be cautious when considering plastic surgery and to consider the potential risks and long-term consequences.

• Discussing methods for natural breast growth in cisgender women and risks involved: The safety and effectiveness of methods for natural breast growth in cisgender women are uncertain, and some come with potential risks. Consult healthcare professionals before making any decisions for cosmetic reasons.

  While there are various methods suggested throughout the conversation, from using butter to undergoing hormone therapy or plastic surgery, the effectiveness and safety of these methods for natural breast growth in cisgender women are uncertain and come with potential risks. The conversation also touches upon the experiences of transgender individuals and their hormone replacement therapy, which can lead to breast development. Ultimately, the decision to undergo any medical procedure for cosmetic reasons should be made after careful consideration and consultation with healthcare professionals.

• Personal journey to self-acceptance through shaving head: Despite the multi-billion dollar hair industry and ongoing research, some men find freedom and confidence in shaving their heads. Societal perception of hair loss may lead to exploring new experiences, but ultimately, self-acceptance is key.

  Hair loss is a common issue for many men, leading to various solutions such as single follicle transplants, hair cloning, or even shaving the head. The speaker shares his personal experience of finding freedom and confidence in shaving his head. The hair industry is a multi-billion dollar business, and there are ongoing research and development for more advanced hair restoration methods. The speaker also mentions the societal perception of men's hair loss and how some men may explore new experiences, like trying out different sexual practices, in response to their changing appearance. Ultimately, the speaker encourages embracing the natural process of aging and finding self-acceptance.

• Historical origins of pink for girls and blue for boys: The association of pink with girls and blue with boys is a societal construct, not based on inherent differences.

  The association of certain colors with specific genders, such as pink for women, is a historical and societal construct. During older times, children, including boys, wore clothes considered gender-neutral, and the use of pink for girls and blue for boys became popularized in the early 20th century. This shift was influenced by marketing and societal norms, rather than inherent differences between genders. The idea that pink is a "girl's color" is not based on any inherent property but rather on historical and cultural factors. This discussion also touched upon the origins of gender roles and expectations, which have evolved over time.

• Fascination with contrasting portrayals of women on Fox News: Societal norms and expectations regarding gender roles and appearances can be inconsistent, leading to fascination with contrasts and contradictions in our cultural beliefs.

  Societal norms and expectations, particularly regarding gender roles and appearances, can be vastly different and often inconsistent. The speaker expresses fascination with the contrasting portrayals of women on Fox News and their perceived sexualization, which he compares to the lack of similar attention given to men's attire. The conversation also touches on the topic of Santa Claus and the societal agreement to lie to children about his existence. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities and contradictions in our cultural beliefs and expectations.

• The influence of beliefs and perceptions on historical figures and traditions: Recognizing and acknowledging diverse perspectives and experiences is crucial for understanding historical figures and cultural traditions. Education plays a vital role in helping us appreciate history's impact on our present.

  Beliefs and perceptions can greatly influence our understanding and recognition of historical figures and cultural traditions. The discussion touched upon various topics including the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Secretary's Day, as well as the significance of Rosa Parks and the lasting impact of slavery. The speaker shared their personal experiences and beliefs, which led to a thought-provoking conversation about the importance of recognizing and acknowledging diverse perspectives and experiences. The conversation also highlighted the power of education and the importance of understanding history in order to appreciate its impact on our present.

• The speaker shares their experiences of coercion, objectification, and materialism: The speaker reflects on their past experiences of harm and finds both acceptance and criticism, acknowledging the complexities of identity and recognition in the process.

  The speaker's past experiences involved instances of coercion, objectification, and materialism. They describe being kept against their will and being sexually exploited from a young age. The speaker also touches upon the desire for validation and material possessions, particularly among certain communities, leading to a culture of flashiness and counterfeit goods. The speaker reflects on these experiences with a mix of acceptance and criticism, acknowledging the harm caused but also finding some good in the situations. The conversation also touches upon the complexities of identity and recognition, as the speaker reflects on the impact of their past on their present sense of self.

• The Complexity and Significance of Names: Names have multiple meanings and origins, and their significance can vary based on cultural contexts and personal experiences.

  Names can be confusing and have multiple meanings or origins. The speaker shares an example of how the names John and Jack are essentially the same, but are used differently. Additionally, the speaker discusses how she chose her stage name, Miss Pat, and how it has been perceived differently based on her race and the expectations of audiences. The conversation also touches on the speaker's past experiences as a drug dealer and her dislike for cat jokes. Despite the various topics covered, the underlying theme is the complexity and nuance of names and their significance in our lives.

• Personal experiences shape beliefs and emotions: Authenticity and loyalty matter in friendships, despite negative experiences. Remember, there's good in the world.

  People's experiences and perspectives shape their beliefs and actions, often leading to strong emotions and convictions. The speaker in this conversation shared personal stories about losing a pet and struggling financially, which influenced her views on politics and relationships. She expressed frustration with people who appear to not care about others, but also acknowledged that there are kind individuals to be found. Ultimately, she emphasized the importance of authenticity and loyalty in friendships. The conversation also touched on the theme of how negative experiences can color one's perception of the world, but it's important to remember that there are good people everywhere.

• Online anonymity can lead to hurtful comments: Online communication can bring out the worst in people, but it also provides opportunities for those who may not have had a voice before. Remember to communicate respectfully and consider the impact of your words on real people.

  The anonymity of online communication can bring out the worst in people, allowing them to make hurtful comments without facing the consequences they would in person. The speaker argues that this is an unnatural situation, as people are meant to communicate face-to-face and engage in meaningful dialogue. However, the internet provides a platform for those who may not have had the opportunity before to express themselves, even if it is in a negative way. The speaker also shares personal experiences of receiving harsh criticism online, highlighting the impact it can have on individuals. Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes the importance of respectful communication and the need to remember that behind every online handle is a real person.

• Personal struggles with body image and weight loss: Understand personal limits, prioritize self-care, and persist towards weight loss goals despite societal pressures, financial constraints, and emotional challenges.

  Everyone has their unique struggles and boundaries when it comes to body image and weight loss. The speaker shares her experience with societal expectations, the challenges of maintaining a healthy lifestyle amidst personal responsibilities, and the emotional toll of stress on weight gain. She emphasizes the importance of knowing one's limits and prioritizing self-care. Despite the financial and time constraints, she encourages persistence and gradual progress towards personal goals. Stress, comfort foods, and societal pressures can derail weight loss efforts, but with the right support and mindset, one can overcome these obstacles.

• Miss Pat thanks sponsors and promotes upcoming shows: Miss Pat, the first black woman on Ice House Chronicles, expressed gratitude, promoted upcoming shows in various cities, and acknowledged the role of a friend in her podcast appearance, leading to increased exposure and opportunities.

  Miss Pat, a female comedian, expressed her gratitude for the opportunity to promote herself on the podcast and shared information about her upcoming comedy shows in various cities such as Toledo, Columbus, Dayton, Zanesville, and Oklahoma City. She encouraged listeners to attend and show their support. Miss Pat also acknowledged the role of her friend Avery in encouraging her to appear on Joe Rogan's podcast, which led to increased exposure and opportunities. She ended by thanking the sponsors and inviting listeners to upcoming shows with Joey Diaz and Duncan Trussell at the Ace Hotel and Theater in Downtown LA on August 1st. Miss Pat made history as the first black woman on the Ice House Chronicles podcast and jokingly referred to herself as the "Rosa Parks" of the episode. She closed by promoting her social media handles and website for those interested in learning more about her and her comedy.