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    77. David Blunkett: Tony Blair, growing up blind, and where Margaret Thatcher went wrong (Part 1)

    enJune 02, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Adversity and resilienceDespite facing numerous challenges including growing up blind and losing his father at a young age, Lord David Blunkett went on to become a successful counsellor, council leader, MP, and key figure in the Labour Party.

      Learning from this interview with Lord David Blunkett is the resilience and adaptability of individuals in the face of adversity. Born blind, Blunkett overcame numerous challenges throughout his life, including a rough childhood and a horrific experience when his father was killed in a industrial accident. Despite these hardships, he went on to become a counsellor, council leader, MP, and key figure in the Labour Party. He also shared his experience of growing up without sight, highlighting the inconvenience but not the disaster it was. His father, a foreman at a gas works, had a tragic accident that led to his death when Blunkett was just 12 years old. Yet, Blunkett's determination and strength shone through, as he continued to contribute to society and make a difference. His story serves as a reminder that, no matter the challenges, individuals have the power to overcome and succeed.

    • Boardingschool and Father's StoriesThe speaker's challenging upbringing in a blind school and his father's stories of hardship shaped his character and fueled his desire to make a difference in the world, leading him to become an advocate for the elderly and a political figure.

      The speaker's upbringing in a boarding school for the blind in Sheffield, despite its challenges and risks, played a significant role in shaping his character and worldview. His father's experiences and stories of hardship during the time between the wars also influenced him deeply. These experiences fueled his desire to make a difference in the world, leading him to become the chair of social services in Sheffield and advocate for improved living conditions for the elderly. The speaker's politics were influenced by these experiences and the teachings of an old-fashioned communist history teacher at the blind school. Overall, the speaker's past instilled in him a strong sense of determination and a commitment to creating positive change.

    • Radio's impact on perspectiveRadio shaped the speaker's perspective on the world, providing valuable information, creating a sense of community, and fostering political awareness during childhood

      The radio played a significant role in shaping the speaker's perspective on the world, providing him with valuable information and creating a sense of community during his childhood. He developed a deep interest in current affairs and formed emotional connections through radio broadcasts, even using it as a substitute for visual commentary during football matches. Despite the challenges he faced growing up, the radio served as a source of comfort and education, fostering his political awareness and shaping his future involvement in local government. The speaker's experiences demonstrate the power of radio as a medium for connection and learning, especially during times when visual resources were limited.

    • Mutuality and Reciprocity, Political IdeologiesNavigating political tensions and ideological extremes requires mutual engagement and reciprocity, as demonstrated by the speaker's experiences as a new counselor and student during the late 1960s. Later in her career, she advocated for a 'third way' approach that balanced practical progress with participative politics and cooperative development.

      The speaker's experiences as a new counselor and undergraduate during the late 1960s taught her the importance of mutuality and reciprocity, as well as the dangers of extremist political ideologies. She managed to navigate the challenges of limited resources and political tensions by engaging her fellow students in a reading circle and advocating for a practical, evolutionary approach to progress. Later in her political journey, she recognized the need for a "third way" between old Labor's welfarist approach and the free market economics of Margaret Thatcher, focusing on participative politics and cooperative development to counteract industrial upheaval. She distinguished her approach from more radical groups like the Militant Tendency in Liverpool by emphasizing engagement and transparency, rather than manipulation or revolution.

    • Thatcher's impact on industries and communitiesThatcher's scorched earth policy and minimal state intervention led to widespread unemployment and social unrest, while a more gradual and planned implementation of change could have protected industries and communities while modernizing them.

      During the 1970s and 1980s, the UK faced significant industrial change and political upheaval, with the Thatcher government's deregulation and privatization policies causing the collapse of traditional industries and communities. The speaker, as a council leader during this time, took part in efforts to challenge the central government's decisions and advocated for a more forward-thinking approach to dealing with rapid change. However, looking back, it's clear that simply defending and preserving the status quo was not a viable solution. Instead, understanding and adapting to globalization and the changing political landscape was necessary. Thatcher's approach, which involved a scorched earth policy and a belief in minimal state intervention, led to widespread unemployment and social unrest. A more gradual and planned implementation of change could have protected industries and communities while modernizing them. As an MP, the speaker learned valuable skills like oratory and was dealt a good hand by Neil Kinnock, who put him on the front bench shortly after his election. Overall, the speaker's assessment is that Thatcher failed to understand the devastating impact of her policies on communities and the importance of a more nuanced approach to change.

    • Political culture in 1980s-1990s UKDuring the 1980s-1990s in UK politics, the focus was on polling, elections, and gossip over policy and ideas. However, seizing opportunities and maintaining personal relationships were essential for success.

      Politics can be a challenging and complex environment, where personal relationships and the ability to have constructive arguments are essential. The speaker, a former council leader and Conservative MP, shared his experiences entering parliament in the late 1980s and early 1990s, during a time of significant political upheaval. He found the culture to be more focused on polling, elections, and gossip than on policy and ideas. However, he also emphasized the importance of seizing opportunities to make a difference, such as during the poll tax controversy, where his expertise in local government finance allowed him to rise to prominence. The speaker also touched on the role of personal relationships, noting how his friends and constituents provided valuable feedback and kept him grounded. He expressed a wish for more of this collaborative spirit in politics today.

    • Enabling GovernmentNeil Kinnock's 1985 speech marked a shift towards recognizing government as a facilitator, rather than sole solution, leading to New Labour's success

      The Labour Party's shift towards becoming New Labour in the late 1980s and 1990s was influenced by a recognition of the importance of an enabling government. This idea was sparked by Neil Kinnock's radical speech at the 1985 party conference, which emphasized the need for government to facilitate and support individuals and other interests in the face of international forces. This perspective contrasted with the traditional Scottish Labour Party and the militant tendency, which sought revolutionary change. This recognition of the role of government as an enabler, rather than a sole solution to societal issues, was a key factor in New Labour's success in the 1997 election and beyond.

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