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    80. Bridget Phillipson: Can we save Britain's schools?

    enJune 16, 2024

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    • Impact of family background on politicsGrowing up as a single mother in a council estate, Bridget Philipson was supported by her loving family, particularly her grandad. Education was crucial in her life, and her father's absence left a significant impact. Her political journey began as a teenager, and she believes politics should be a force for good.

      Bridget Philipson, a Labour Party politician, shares her compelling backstory of growing up as a single mother in a council estate with the support of her loving family, particularly her grandad, despite her father abandoning the family before her birth. She emphasizes the importance of education in her life and the impact of her father's absence, but expresses no bitterness. Philipson also reflects on her political journey, starting as a teenager in the Labour Party, and her experiences in Parliament, both as a backbencher and during the Labour government tenure. She expresses her belief that politics should be a force for good in people's lives and is glad that the Labour Party is now in a better position to advance the interests of working people.

    • Women in Modern PoliticsDespite facing challenges, women in modern politics find joy in making a difference and changing the culture, such as during Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party leadership. Class remains a significant issue in Britain, and the Labour Party focuses on the national interest and addressing it.

      Being a woman in modern politics requires resilience and a thick skin due to the abuse and scrutiny women politicians face. However, it's essential to remember that politics is an amazing job that offers the opportunity to make a difference. During Jeremy Corbyn's period as Labour Party leader, there were concerns about its existence, but the determination to change the culture and turn it around was present. The post-electoral system, party whips, and rapid minister reshuffles were perceived as broken, but some politicians, like the interviewee, found joy in being part of a team in the whips office. The Labour Party is focused on the national interest and putting hope and optimism into the country's future, emphasizing the importance of education and giving people more choice and control in their lives. Class remains a significant issue in Britain, holding individuals and the country back, and the current Labour shadow cabinet reflects the change in society with more people from diverse backgrounds.

    • Speaker vs Corbyn approachesThe speaker and Corbyn share goals of social justice but differ in approaches, with the speaker advocating for opportunities and choices, progressive taxation, and keeping Britain competitive, while expressing surprise at not fully aligning with Corbyn.

      While the speaker and Jeremy Corbyn share similar goals of social justice and addressing poverty and class issues, their approaches differ. The speaker advocates for providing opportunities and enabling choices for individuals, while acknowledging the importance of empathy and understanding. They believe in a progressive taxation system but also prioritize keeping Britain competitive for businesses. The speaker also supports ending tax benefits for private schools but allows parents to make the choice to send their children there. Despite some agreement on principles, the speaker expresses surprise at not fully aligning with Corbyn and emphasizes the need for careful consideration and understanding of people's lives.

    • Children's EducationDespite the debate over private schools and their funding, the focus should be on supporting children's education, particularly those whose education may be disrupted. Prioritize resources for state schools, address the attainment gap, and involve families and communities in educational services.

      While there is a debate about the role of private schools and the potential impact of policies that affect their funding, the focus should be on the children and their education. The speaker emphasizes the importance of providing support for those children whose education may be disrupted due to such policies. They also suggest that private schools could absorb some of the costs and that there is currently excess capacity in the state school system to accommodate any potential influx of students. The speaker strongly advocates for prioritizing resources for the 93% of children in state schools, emphasizing the importance of education as a whole and the need to address the attainment gap, particularly in early education and childcare. The speaker also acknowledges the importance of the Shua Start policy, which engaged families and communities in the delivery of services and led to improvements in outcomes and savings for the NHS. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for policies that prioritize the needs of children and the importance of involving families and communities in the design and delivery of educational services.

    • Community involvement in programsEffective community programs require a balance between core services and community involvement. Decreased family volunteer involvement led to a decrease in engagement, but expanding the program may be challenging due to economic conditions and lack of trust in politics.

      Effective community programs, like Sure Start, require a balance between core services and community involvement. The program's shift towards bureaucratic and NGO-led operations with less family volunteer involvement led to a decrease in engagement. Despite its substantial investment and proven cost-effectiveness, the economic situation and lack of trust in politics may prevent a commitment to expanding the program. The challenges facing Britain, such as Brexit, demography, and productivity, are complex and require a nuanced understanding and approach. It's essential to acknowledge the difficulties faced by previous governments and focus on addressing these structural issues to improve the country's future.

    • Economic factors and family sizeEconomic issues like high housing costs, lack of job security, and rising childcare expenses are shaping family size decisions and overall quality of life. Ignoring these concerns could lead to long-term societal consequences and a potential rise of far-right politics.

      The structural issues in society, such as high housing costs, lack of job security, and rising cost of childcare, are significantly influencing people's decisions about family size and overall quality of life. These economic factors, if not addressed, could lead to long-term consequences for the country. Additionally, there are global challenges, including national security concerns and the impact of crises like COVID-19 and the situation in Ukraine, which require a stable and effective government response. The volatility in people's voting behavior underscores the importance of earning and maintaining public trust and delivering on promises. The past elections have shown that traditional party allegiances are weakening, and a left-of-center government needs to act quickly and decisively to address the systemic challenges and regain people's trust. The consequences of not doing so could result in a rise of far-right politics. Boris Johnson's unexpected success in the 2019 election was a combination of his charisma, Jeremy Corbyn's impact on the Labour Party, and people's feelings of betrayal and disappointment with the Labour Party's priorities.

    • Labour Party's education policyThe Labour Party under Keir Starmer is focusing on winning back disconnected supporters by demonstrating commitment to promises and continuity in policy-making, specifically in education. Kate Green emphasizes the importance of curriculum reforms focusing on creativity and early maths, and acknowledges the need for respect and understanding between political parties.

      The Labour Party, under the leadership of Keir Starmer, is making efforts to win back former supporters who may have felt disconnected or unsupported in the past. The shadow secretary of state for education, Kate Green, acknowledged the importance of demonstrating commitment to promises and the value of continuity in policy-making, particularly in areas like education. Michael Gove and Nick Gibb's education reforms were highlighted as examples of focus and drive, with a need for curriculum reforms focusing on creativity and early maths. A memorable question from a political interview for Green was about the reasons for poverty in the world, emphasizing the importance of addressing structural inequality. Despite some differences, Green acknowledged the need for respect and understanding between political parties and the importance of considering the perspectives of those with different backgrounds.

    • Labour Party's Shadow Chancellor Rachel ReevesRachel Reeves, known for her serious demeanor and commitment to addressing child poverty, emphasizes education and childcare as key solutions, resonating with voters as a serious contender for Chancellor role.

      Rachel Reeves, the Labour Party's Shadow Chancellor, comes across as a positive, optimistic, and professional politician who is focused on her goals and not easily swayed by distractions or negativity. Her background in politics, starting from a young age, has shaped her approach, and she is known for her serious demeanor and commitment to addressing issues like child poverty. During the interview, she emphasized the importance of education and childcare in tackling poverty, but her communication style was more focused on social justice than specific policy details. While some might find her lack of anecdotes or humor off-putting, her determination and clear message resonate with many voters. Overall, her interview underscores her reputation as a serious contender for the Chancellor role and her commitment to making a positive impact on the lives of those most in need.

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