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    Brené with Tarana Burke and Jason Reynolds on "You Are Your Best Thing"

    enApril 28, 2021

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    • Exploring Black Vulnerability and Resilience through StorytellingTwo influential women, Brené Brown and Tarana Burke, collaborate on an anthology of essays from 20 black writers, affirming the fullness of black love, life, joy, and humanity, while highlighting the importance of vulnerability and resilience in the Black experience.

      Two influential women, Brené Brown and Tarana Burke, have joined forces to create an anthology titled "You Are Your Vulnerability: Shame, Resilience, and the Black Experience." This collection of essays from 20 black writers aims to affirm the fullness of black love, life, joy, and humanity. The project was born out of a conversation between the two friends, where Tarana shared her experiences of navigating vulnerability and shame resilience as a black woman. The anthology is a testament to the generosity and soulful truth-telling in these stories. Listeners can enjoy excerpts from the audiobook, featuring a conversation between Brené and Tarana, as well as an essay by New York Times bestselling author Jason Reynolds. This collaborative effort is a powerful exploration of the Black experience and serves as a reminder of the importance of vulnerability and resilience.

    • Tarana Burke and Brené Brown's Conversation on Shame Resilience and Black ExperiencesTarana Burke, a cultural worker and organizer, sought to bridge the gap between shame resilience and Black experiences in a co-edited anthology with Brené Brown, marking a significant moment for Tarana as she worked towards making her work more inclusive.

      Tarana Burke, a cultural worker and organizer, felt a need to address the lack of focus on Black experiences during the public conversations about racial justice following the murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. She reached out to Brené Brown to discuss the intersection of shame resilience and Black experiences, which led to the creation of their co-edited anthology. Despite their close friendship, Tarana had hesitated to initiate the conversation due to feelings of contorting herself to fit into the work and seeing herself represented. Once they connected, both women were eager to explore this important topic. The conversation marked a significant moment for Tarana, as she had been grappling with how to make her work more inclusive and invite a wider audience.

    • Representation Matters in Research PresentationResearchers should strive to include diverse experiences in presentations and embody compassion to effectively connect with and serve a wider audience.

      Representation matters in how research is presented to ensure all individuals feel seen and included. The research itself may resonate with a diverse group due to its basis on diverse samples, but the way it's presented can sometimes exclude certain experiences. The speaker, in this case, realized that using their own privileged white experiences as examples may not fully capture the experiences of others, particularly those from underrepresented communities. They aim to address this by cocreating stories from the Black experience that illustrate the data and make the work more relatable and inclusive. The importance of embodying the research and combining it with compassion was also emphasized to effectively connect with and serve a wider audience.

    • Cocreating an anthology with lived experience at its coreRecognizing the power of personal stories, prioritizing lived experience, and addressing shame are crucial elements in creating impactful and accessible research.

      In the process of creating an anthology, lived experience holds greater importance than academic experience. Brown and her collaborator emphasized the significance of being good stewards of powerful stories, recognizing the potential impact they can have on people's lives. They discussed the importance of naming and addressing shame, as well as the concept of shame resilience. In their cocreation process, Brown learned the importance of vulnerability and how it can lead to courage, love, joy, and trust, despite the historical danger it holds for marginalized communities like the Black community. Ultimately, their collaboration aimed to name and explore these concepts, with the proceeds from the book going back to storytellers in the Black community. The process of cocreation requires prioritizing lived experience, relevance, and accessibility to make research useful and accessible to people.

    • Hindrance to experiencing joy and love for Black peopleThe lack of safety and acceptance for vulnerability in the Black community hinders joy, belonging, intimacy, and love. It's crucial to engage with Black humanity to combat racism and promote love and compassion.

      The lack of safety and acceptance for vulnerability in the Black community is a major hindrance to experiencing joy, belonging, intimacy, and love. The culture we've created makes it harder for Black people to be vulnerable, but it's not that they don't need it. In fact, it's crucial for everyone to engage with Black humanity in order to truly combat racism and promote love and compassion. The essays in this book offer breathing room for Black people to explore their experiences and see the depth and breadth of their humanity. The hope is that this book reaches Black individuals who have felt stifled, overwhelmed, and alone, providing them with language and validation for their feelings and experiences. The book goes beyond surface-level discussions of the Black experience and delves into the hard work of exploring the parts of ourselves we often hide to survive. It's essential to acknowledge and address these hidden parts to foster a deeper understanding and connection with ourselves and others.

    • Exploring diverse experiences and stories to understand systemic issuesRecognizing intergenerational trauma, learning from unique experiences, and effectively addressing root causes are crucial steps towards dismantling systems and creating meaningful connections.

      Engaging with diverse experiences and stories, especially those rooted in different racial and ethnic backgrounds, is essential for understanding and dismantling systemic issues. This process not only reveals the core of shared humanity but also highlights the unique paths that lead to trauma and injustice. By paying attention to these roads, we can effectively address the root causes of these issues and create meaningful connections. The speaker emphasizes the importance of recognizing intergenerational trauma and its impact on various communities. They share their personal experiences of learning from women of different backgrounds and the importance of understanding the unique experiences and reasons behind shared traumas. The speaker also highlights the significance of effective dismantling of systems, requiring specific attention and action, rather than just general thoughts. Jason, the author being discussed, is a renowned and award-winning author, known for his work on racism, antiracism, and social justice. His books provide valuable insights into these issues and contribute to the ongoing conversation on dismantling systems and creating a more equitable society.

    • Exploring the power of storytelling and family connectionsJason Reynolds shared a personal story about cherishing familial experiences and Apple Card offers daily rewards for everyday purchases, emphasizing the significance of making the most of both moments and transactions.

      The power of storytelling and the importance of family connections were explored in the discussion. Jason Reynolds, a prolific writer, shared a personal story about his experiences accompanying his mother on bimonthly journeys to South Carolina following his grandfather's amputation. These trips were filled with music, snacks, and conversations that helped shape Reynolds' appreciation for the past and the present. The discussion also introduced Apple Card, a cashback rewards credit card that offers daily cash rewards on various purchases. While these two topics may seem unrelated, they both emphasize the significance of cherishing experiences and connections, whether they are familial or related to financial rewards. Reynolds' story highlighted the importance of family traditions and the impact they have on personal growth, while Apple Card offers a tangible reward for everyday purchases, encouraging consumers to make the most of their daily transactions.

    • The bond between a mother and child and the importance of family heritageThrough shared stories and experiences, a mother's connection with her child deepens, and the value of hard work, resilience, and family traditions strengthens their bond. Cherishing these moments and stories shapes our identities and highlights the enduring power of family and heritage.

      The connection between a mother and her child transcends societal norms and can provide unique experiences and stories that shape their understanding of family and heritage. The story shared by the narrator's mother, passed down from generations, highlights the importance of hard work, resilience, and the value of land and family. Despite the challenges and hardships faced by the family, the bond between them remained strong, and they found comfort and solace in their shared history and traditions. The narrator's experiences of visiting their grandfather's farm in the South and getting to know him as a farmer deepened their connection and appreciation for their roots. Overall, this story emphasizes the importance of cherishing the special moments and stories shared between family members and the enduring power of family and heritage in shaping our identities.

    • The Power of FamilyFamily instills values and shapes our lives, providing strength and resilience during tough times, and inspiring us to pursue our dreams.

      Family plays a significant role in shaping our lives. The narrator's father instilled in him the importance of family, and this value was reinforced during his mother's battle with cancer. The experience of growing up with a sick parent, balancing responsibilities and pursuing dreams, led the narrator to discover a love for poetry and writing. Despite the challenges and hardships, the narrator's mother's unwavering determination to see him succeed fueled his perseverance. Ultimately, the narrator's journey to New York City to pursue his dreams was a testament to the power of family and the resilience of the human spirit.

    • Family support during personal growthFamily's love and encouragement can help heal guilt and provide perspective during the pursuit of dreams, while sacrifices may be necessary for success. Representation matters for future generations.

      The pursuit of dreams and personal growth can come with difficult decisions and feelings of guilt, but the support and love of family can help heal and provide perspective. The speaker recounts his journey from New York City to DC to sign his first publishing contract, leaving his mother during a potentially fatal surgery. Despite the guilt he carried for over a decade, his mother encouraged him to forgive himself and continue chasing his dreams while keeping family first. The essay highlights the importance of family support and the sacrifices one may make to achieve their goals. The speaker's experience also underscores the significance of representation and the importance of black writers and role models for future generations.

    • Healing from past emotional woundsAcknowledge and address past emotional wounds, especially those related to shame and self-judgment, to promote healing and growth. Embrace vulnerability, resilience, and the power of connection in the process.

      Key takeaway from this episode of "Unlocking Us" is the importance of acknowledging and addressing past emotional wounds, especially those related to shame and self-judgment. The conversation between the speaker and his mother highlights the value of facing these issues head-on, rather than keeping them hidden. The mother's wisdom encourages the speaker to share his experiences with others, recognizing that some things are meant to be shared. This resonates with the broader theme of effective anti-racism work, which requires embracing the full humanity of all individuals, including the black experience. The episode emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, resilience, and the power of connection in healing and growth. The full audio book is available for purchase, and listeners can find more information and resources related to the episode on Brene Brown's website.

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