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    Concentration Camps Are Back, So Let's Talk About Their History

    enJune 26, 2018

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    • Connecting with neighbors and improving experiencesNeighbor to Neighbor encourages community building, Chumba Casino offers entertainment, ZYN and ProNamel aid smoking cessation, and Behind the Bastards sheds light on concentration camp history.

      There are various initiatives and resources available to help build stronger communities and improve individual experiences. Neighbor to Neighbor is an example of a volunteer network that encourages people to connect with their neighbors and support each other in times of need. On a different note, Chumba Casino offers a platform for entertainment and potential winnings. For those seeking to quit smoking, ZYN nicotine pouches and ProNamel Intensive Enamel Repair toothpaste and mouthwash can be helpful tools. Lastly, understanding the history of concentration camps, as discussed on the Behind the Bastards podcast, sheds light on the origins of a concept that continues to impact society today. Despite the challenges and uncertainties in life, there are resources and knowledge available to help us grow, connect, and improve.

    • Andrew Jackson's military background shapes Native American policyAndrew Jackson's experiences during the Red Stick War led him to take revenge on Native Americans, resulting in the forced removal of thousands from their lands.

      Andrew Jackson's military background and experiences during the Red Stick War significantly influenced his treatment of Native Americans and led to the forced removal of thousands from their lands. Jackson, a tough and ruthless leader, became a major general in the army after the war and was put in charge of negotiating peace. Instead of showing leniency towards the Red Sticks and Creek who had fought alongside his forces, he took revenge by taking away half of their land. This pattern of behavior continued into Jackson's political career, where he advocated for the Indian Removal Act in 1830, resulting in the infamous Trail of Tears. Jackson's actions demonstrate the immense power held by individuals in history, and the far-reaching consequences of their decisions.

    • Forcible Removal of Native Americans vs. Rise of Don Valeriano Whaler y NicolaouAndrew Jackson's administration forced Native Americans to relocate, resulting in thousands of deaths. Simultaneously, a man named Don Valeriano Whaler y Nicolaou overcame his short stature to become a military hero in Spain.

      During the 1830s in the United States, under President Andrew Jackson's administration, Native Americans were forcibly removed from their lands and relocated to reservations, resulting in the infamous "Trail of Tears" where thousands died. This policy aimed to break their resistance and make way for white settlers. Parallels can be drawn between this and current power dynamics. Meanwhile, in Spain, a man named Don Valeriano Whaler y Nicolaou, born the same year, overcame his short stature to excel in the military, earning the nickname "Scipio." Despite their vastly different experiences, both figures played significant roles in their respective histories.

    • A Tough Colonial Officer's Unconventional MethodsValeriano Weyler, a Spanish officer, gained fame for his ruthless tactics in suppressing rebellions, including giving no quarter to enemies and learning from Gen. William Sherman's methods.

      Valeriano Weyler, a Spanish colonial officer, became renowned for his toughness and effectiveness in suppressing rebellions against Spanish rule, despite his unconventional methods. During his time in Cuba in the 1860s, he stood out for his sobriety amidst Spanish officers' heavy drinking. Later, in the Dominican Republic, he learned from General William Sherman's brutal tactics against insurgents, which he applied during the 10 Years War in Cuba. Weyler commanded a unit of 600 men and implemented ruthless rules, including giving no quarter to the enemy, even civilians near combat areas. His unorthodox tactics made his unit the deadliest in the Spanish army, despite the formidable insurgent forces, which included women wielding machetes on horses.

    • Controversial Military Leader Tomas de Castro 'Wheeler'Wheeler, known for brutal tactics, gained successes & controversies in Spain & Philippines, but his tenure was cut short by another revolution, leading to the first concentration camps

      General Tomas de Castro "Wheeler," known for his brutality in wars, was a controversial figure who employed extreme tactics to suppress insurgencies. His career was marked by successes and controversies, including his time in Spain during the monarchist uprising and his service as the military governor of the Philippines, where he used innovative tactics to quell insurgencies. Despite his controversial methods, Wheeler was popular among some Spaniards and was even made a senator for life. However, his tenure was short-lived as another revolution broke out in Cuba, leading to the birth of the first concentration camps. While Wheeler's legacy is complex, his story serves as a reminder of the harsh realities of war and the lengths some leaders will go to maintain order.

    • Exploring savings opportunities and spring cleaningDiscovering new ways to save and reevaluating current expenses can lead to significant savings, like Chumba Casino's free-to-play games or Mint Mobile's affordable wireless plans. Historical events, like the Cuban Revolution's concentration camps, also serve as reminders of the importance of respecting individual rights and freedoms.

      The history of Chumba Casino and spring cleaning have something in common – discovering hidden savings. Chumba Casino offers over 100 free-to-play casino games with a chance to win prizes. On the other hand, spring cleaning brings the clarity of reducing unnecessary expenses. Similarly, discovering Mint Mobile's affordable $15/month unlimited wireless plans can save you significantly on your monthly bills. This historical fact and practical tip remind us to explore new opportunities and reevaluate our current expenses for potential savings. Additionally, the discussion touched upon the historical significance of General Valeriano Weyler and the first concentration camps during the Cuban Revolution. These camps were established to relocate civilians for political purposes, and one-third of the Cuban population was affected, resulting in approximately 320,000 deaths. This historical event serves as a reminder of the consequences of forced relocation and the importance of respecting individual rights and freedoms.

    • Historical Precedent of Concentration Camps as Military StrategyConcentration camps, used as military strategy to quell insurgencies since late 1800s, caused international outcry and political disaster despite initial success

      The use of concentration camps as a military strategy to quell insurgencies dates back to the late 19th century during the Cuban War of Independence. The camps, which held civilians and were surrounded by barbed wire fences and guarded by soldiers, were described as desolate and distressing, causing an international outcry and contributing to the Spanish-American War. This historical precedent was later referenced during the British war with the Boers in South Africa, where they implemented similar concentration camps. Despite the military success of these camps, their political implications were disastrous. General Wheeler, who oversaw the camps in Cuba, later regretted his actions and expressed remorse on his deathbed. The first concentration camps were a military success but a political disaster.

    • The Boer Wars: Devastating Consequences for Boer and Black PopulationsThe Boer Wars led to the establishment of concentration camps resulting in the deaths of thousands of Boer and black civilians due to poor living conditions and lack of food and sanitation.

      The Boer Wars, which began when the British discovered gold and diamonds in Boer territory and saw it as an opportunity to expand their empire, resulted in devastating consequences for both the Boer and black populations. The British, under the command of Lord Kitchener, established concentration camps for Boer women and children, as well as black people fighting with the Boers. These camps became stinking, diseased hell pits where thousands died due to lack of food and sanitation. Approximately 28,000 Boers and 20,000 black people died in these camps between 1901 and 1902. Despite the horrific conditions, the deaths of black people in British concentration camps during the Boer War are often treated as an afterthought in historical accounts. The racism of the time prevented many from acknowledging the severity of the situation for the black population. The Boer Wars serve as a reminder of the devastating impact of colonialism and the suffering it inflicted on innocent civilians.

    • The use of concentration camps during the Boer War set a troubling precedent for the 20th centuryThe Boer War's use of concentration camps, resulting in thousands of deaths, influenced the Armenian genocide and shaped 20th century military tactics, highlighting the devastating impact of discrimination and human cruelty.

      The use of concentration camps during the Boer War in South Africa set a troubling precedent for the 20th century. Thousands of black men were forced into military service or labor camps, while the white population was provided with tents and supplies. Conditions in these camps were deplorable, leading to the deaths of tens of thousands of people. The horrors of these camps were eventually exposed, leading to condemnation and efforts to improve conditions. However, the effectiveness of concentration camps from a military standpoint allowed the idea to spread, leading to their use in other conflicts, most notably the Armenian genocide during World War 1. The Armenian genocide, in which an estimated 1.5 million people were killed, is considered one of the first modern genocides. The experiences of the Boer War, the Armenian genocide, and other events influenced the actions of world leaders in the 20th century. The use of concentration camps remains a dark chapter in history, serving as a reminder of the devastating consequences of discrimination, war, and human cruelty.

    • Ideas, both good and bad, can spread throughout historyHistorically, ideas, whether positive or negative, have the power to spread and impact societies. Choose wisely which ones to embrace.

      Ideas, much like viruses, can spread and evolve throughout history. An unfortunate example of this is the concept of concentration camps, which originated in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and were used by various empires for population control and mass killing. From their origins in Cuba and the Boer War, the idea spread to the Armenian genocide and eventually to Germany in the 1920s, just in time for World War 2. Meanwhile, in a lighter vein, there are also positive ideas and experiences that can spread and bring people together. For instance, the Neighbor to Neighbor volunteer network encourages community building and mutual support. And Monopoly Go, a mobile game, offers endless opportunities for fun and connection with friends. It's important to remember that both positive and negative ideas can have far-reaching impacts, and it's up to us to choose which ones to spread and embrace. So whether you're playing a game or building a community, remember that every interaction has the potential to make a difference.

    • Historical Precedents for Nazi Concentration CampsNazi concentration camps were influenced by historical events, including British camps during the Boer War and US treatment of indigenous peoples. Hitler admired their efficiency and used them as an excuse for Germany's own camps, while deflecting criticism by claiming they were a British invention.

      The justification for the establishment and operation of Nazi concentration camps was influenced by historical events, including the British concentration camps during the Boer War and the treatment of indigenous peoples in the United States. Adolf Hitler admired the efficiency of these camps and used them as an excuse for Germany's own camps. Additionally, Hitler and the Nazi regime attempted to deflect criticism of their actions by claiming that concentration camps were a British invention and that the international community would not react to the persecution of Jews in the same way they had reacted to past atrocities, such as the Armenian genocide. It's important to recognize the complexity of the concentration camp system, which included both labor and extermination camps, and to challenge simplistic understandings of this dark chapter in history.

    • Historical Precedents of Concentration CampsThe Holocaust wasn't an isolated event; concentration camps were used by other nations, including the US, with devastating consequences, and historical context is crucial for understanding their impact.

      The Holocaust, while unique in its scale and brutality, is not an isolated historical event. The use of concentration camps by the Germans during World War 2 was influenced by historical precedents, and similar practices were employed by other nations, including the United States. The Japanese internment camps during World War 2, which resulted in the deaths of hundreds, are an example of this. The strategic hamlet program in Vietnam, implemented by the US government in the 1960s, also involved the use of concentration camps, with devastating consequences. It's important to remember that historical events are part of a larger context and that understanding this context can provide valuable insights. Additionally, the use of propaganda to downplay the severity of these events and separate them from their historical antecedents should be critically examined.

    • British label Malayan Conflict as 'Emergency' due to Insurance ReasonsThe Malayan Emergency, a conflict between British and communist insurgents, was initially labeled as an 'emergency' due to insurance companies refusing to cover war damages. British forces successfully eliminated the insurgency by building fortified villages and providing essential services to squatters.

      The Malayan Emergency, a conflict between the British colonial government and communist insurgents in Malaya after World War 2, was labeled as such due to insurance companies refusing to cover war damages. The insurgents, largely Chinese, had been trained and armed by the British during the war but turned against them when it ended. The emergency began when a group of communists executed three British farmers. The British government responded by suspending civil liberties and arresting suspects for up to two years before charging them. The insurgents initially gained the upper hand, but in 1950, British forces under Lieutenant General Harold Briggs implemented a plan to eliminate the insurgency by building fortified villages and moving 400,000 squatters into them. Despite initial skepticism, the plan was a success, making the squatters landowners and providing them with electricity, clean water, schools, and clinics. The camps, while controversial and some argue concentration camps, were relatively humane compared to historical standards. The British had a history of using concentration camps, particularly during their colonial rule, and the Malayan Emergency was just one example of their extensive use of this tactic.

    • The Use of Concentration Camps: A Dark Part of Western HistoryDespite changes in implementation, concentration camps remain a disturbing part of Western history, used to imprison large groups under inhumane conditions, from Jewish refugees in Britain to political dissidents in Scotland to asylum seekers in the US.

      The use of concentration camps throughout history, including those in Britain during World War 2 and more recently in the United States, is a disturbing part of Western culture. These camps were used to imprison large numbers of people, including political dissidents and refugees, often under inhumane conditions. The British kept Jewish refugees in concentration camps and forced them to labor, while Polish concentration camps in Scotland housed political dissidents, including Jewish ones, and resulted in executions. The 20th century saw a proliferation of concentration camps, and it seems the 21st may follow suit. The use of concentration camps is not a new phenomenon, but the way they are implemented has changed. In the past, there were individual leaders behind their creation, but now it's more cultural and widespread. The most recent example is the detention of families seeking asylum in the United States, with over 27,000 children being separated from their parents between 2017 and 2018 and housed in facilities criticized for their inhumane conditions. Despite the efforts to differentiate these facilities from concentration camps, they share similarities with those from history. It's a sad reminder that the use of concentration camps is a dark part of our past and present.

    • Children Suffer Trauma in U.S. Border Detention CentersChildren in U.S. border detention centers suffer severe physical and mental harm due to prolonged separation from families and inhumane conditions, leading to developmental issues and emotional diseases.

      The detention centers at the U.S.-Mexico border, referred to by some as "child concentration camps," are causing significant harm to children, both physically and mentally. A democratic congressman and a journalist have described the conditions as inhumane, with children being kept in cages, separated from their families, and sleeping on concrete. While the facilities may be clean, they have been identified as breeding grounds for mental and emotional diseases due to the trauma experienced by the children. Studies on institutionalized children, such as those conducted during Romania's forced birth policy, show that prolonged separation from parents can lead to severe developmental issues. Despite recent promises to end family separations, thousands of children remain affected, and the broader issue of detaining families seeking asylum continues. It's important to note that concentration camps are typically established by countries during conflicts to subjugate specific groups, and the U.S. has a complex history of involvement in conflicts that have led to the displacement of people seeking refuge.

    • Historical Justification of Human Rights InfringementsThroughout history, justifications for infringing on human rights have taken various forms, including laws and cultural norms. Changing laws is important, but shifting cultural attitudes and recognizing historical connections is crucial for addressing ongoing injustices.

      Throughout history, the treatment of marginalized groups, such as asylum seekers and slaves, has often been justified by laws and cultural norms. These practices, although different in form, share a common thread of infringing on human rights. The conversation highlights the ongoing existence of these issues, with examples given of concentration camps and the detention of asylum seekers at the U.S. border. The speakers argue that the focus should not only be on changing laws but also on shifting cultural attitudes, as laws are meaningless without ethical foundations. The speakers also emphasize the importance of understanding history and recognizing the connections between past and present injustices.

    • The Evolution of Response to Human Rights AbusesFrom disregard to recognition, human rights abuses are met with growing awareness and action thanks to technological advancements and global communication.

      Throughout history, there have been instances of concentration camps and human rights abuses against various groups. However, the response to these atrocities has evolved over time. In the past, people may not have recognized the humanity of those affected, allowing such acts to continue. Today, with advancements in technology and global communication, public outrage can spread quickly, leading to increased awareness and action against human rights violations. The uplifting story in the dark history of concentration camps is the growing recognition of universal human rights and the ability to connect and act upon that outrage on a global scale.

    • The use of concentration camps by the British during the Boer WarsEducate yourself on past atrocities, have thought-provoking conversations, and be informed citizens to prevent history from repeating itself.

      History often repeats itself, and it's important to be aware of past atrocities in order to prevent them from happening again. The discussion touched upon the use of concentration camps by the British during the Boer Wars, which is a lesser-known but significant part of history. The speakers encouraged listeners to educate themselves on this topic and take action to bring about change. They also emphasized the importance of having thought-provoking conversations and being informed citizens. Additionally, they recommended checking out the podcast "Behind the Bastards" for more insightful stories and the band "The Narcissist Cookbook" for great music.

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