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    Does catching covid give you more immunity than being vaccinated?

    enDecember 12, 2021

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    • Exploring LinkedIn's Value for Business Hiring and Mint Mobile's Affordable Wireless PlansLinkedIn is a valuable resource for businesses to find potential candidates outside of the active job market. Mint Mobile offers affordable wireless plans through a reverse auction pricing model.

      LinkedIn is a valuable resource for businesses looking to hire professionals, as it hosts a large number of users who may not be actively seeking new jobs but could still be open to the right opportunity. This makes LinkedIn an essential platform for finding a diverse pool of potential candidates, many of whom might not be found on other job sites. Additionally, the podcast discussed the affordability of Mint Mobile's wireless services, offering a reverse auction to attract new customers with a low price point. Lastly, there was a mention of a controversial claim made by US Congresswoman Nancy Mace regarding the effectiveness of natural immunity to COVID compared to vaccinations. The claim, which was made on different platforms to different audiences, sparked curiosity about the validity of this assertion.

    • Israeli study overstates protection from previous infectionNatural immunity offers some protection against COVID-19 reinfection, but Israeli study's claim of 27 times greater protection than vaccination is an overstatement due to its high odds ratio and real-world data limitations.

      While previous infection may offer some protection against reinfection with COVID-19, the data from Israel suggesting 27 times greater protection than vaccination is an overstatement. This claim is based on one study that has been criticized for its high odds ratio, which is not consistent across all models within the study. The real-world observational data we have now, which includes self-selected vaccination and infection, has significant limitations and makes it challenging to draw definitive conclusions. It's essential to remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the data from Israel does not meet that standard. While natural immunity is an important consideration, it's crucial to approach such claims with a critical and nuanced perspective.

    • Comparing Effectiveness of Natural Immunity vs Vaccination for SARS CoV 2Study designs, eligibility criteria, and outcome definitions impact conclusions on superior immunity from prior infection or vaccination for SARS CoV 2. Further research with consistent study designs is necessary.

      Comparing the effectiveness of natural immunity from prior infection to vaccination for SARS CoV 2 is complicated due to various biases and differences in study designs. For instance, the availability and eligibility criteria for testing can lead to underreporting of infections in some populations. Additionally, the definition of the outcome, such as hospitalization or any infection, can significantly impact the results. The Israeli study and the CDC study came to contrasting conclusions due to these differences. The best approach to answering this question might be from the ONS infection study in the UK, which follows individuals and tests them regularly, ensuring a more comprehensive representation of the population. The ONS study has shown equivalent protection for those previously infected and not vaccinated compared to being fully vaccinated with either the AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccine. In summary, the race between prior infection and vaccination for superior immunity is not clear-cut, and further research with consistent study designs is necessary to make definitive conclusions.

    • Natural immunity vs. vaccines: Weighing the risksNatural immunity comes with risks and potential long-term health consequences, making vaccines a safer and more reliable option for protection against COVID-19.

      While prior infection may offer some protection against reinfection with COVID-19, it is not a desirable option due to the risks and potential long-term health consequences. The study from Israel suggesting higher protection from natural immunity compared to vaccines goes against current consensus, but the risks of getting infected in the first place outweigh the benefits. Natural immunity comes with the danger of transmission to others and the potential for severe health complications, including long-term effects. Vaccines, on the other hand, are a safer and more reliable way to build immunity against the virus. It's important to remember that discussions about the benefits of natural immunity often overlook the potential risks and long-term consequences. The safest and most effective way to protect against COVID-19 is by getting vaccinated.

    • New variants and booster shots, crocodiles and their tongues, UnitedHealthcare's short-term plans, and 1800flowers.com's special occasion offeringsWe prioritize getting boosters against new COVID-19 variants, crocodiles can't stick their tongues out, UnitedHealthcare provides flexible short-term health insurance plans, and 1800flowers.com offers gifts for all special occasions

      Even though we may grow immune to certain claims or statistics, we will still prioritize getting boosters against new variants. This was discussed during an episode featuring Professor Jennifer Dowd and Doctor Maria Sunderland. In other news, did you know that a crocodile can't stick its tongue out? And, UnitedHealthcare offers short-term health insurance plans for those in between jobs or starting a business, with flexible and budget-friendly coverage and access to a nationwide network. Lastly, 1800flowers.com is not just for birthdays and anniversaries, but for celebrating all life's special occasions with love and care. Their products are made with dedication to bring smiles to you and your loved ones.

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