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    Dr. Laurie Santos - Time Affluence, Hedonic Adaptation, and What the Science Says About Ancient Wisdom

    en-usApril 03, 2021

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    • Expert on Happiness: Dr. Laurie SantosDr. Laurie Santos, an expert in human cognition and head of Yale Psychology, gained recognition for her 'Psychology and the Good Life' course and podcast, sharing practical lessons on happiness from ancient philosophies and religions.

      Despite having access to abundant resources and opportunities, many people struggle with finding true happiness. This is where Dr. Laurie Santos comes in, an expert in human cognition and the head of the Psychology Department at Yale University. She gained widespread recognition for her most subscribed course in Yale's history, "Psychology and the Good Life," which later became a free program on Coursera, reaching over 3.3 million learners. Dr. Santos's research and teachings on happiness have been featured in numerous media outlets, including the New York Times, NBC Nightly News, and Time Magazine. Her podcast, "The Happiness Lab," launched in 2019 and has been downloaded over 35 million times. In her work, she explores practical well-being lessons from ancient philosophies and religions, such as Sabbath in Judaism, playfulness in Taoism, and forgiveness in Christianity. Through her research and teachings, Dr. Santos continues to shed light on the importance of happiness and the various ways we can cultivate it in our lives.

    • Misconceptions about Happiness and PrioritiesContrary to popular belief, external factors like money, success, and grades contribute less to long-term happiness than social connections, doing for others, and being present. Focusing on these elements can significantly improve happiness.

      Natural selection and evolution did not prioritize human happiness in the same way we might assume. Instead, our focus on external factors like money, success, and grades for happiness may be misguided. Research shows that these factors contribute less to long-term happiness than we believe, and we often move on to the next goal once achieved. Instead, focusing on social connection, doing for others, and being present can significantly improve happiness. However, it's challenging to pursue these elements in a culture that prioritizes external achievements. Laurie Santos' popular course at Yale, which emphasizes these findings, has shown improvements in students' reported happiness levels. Therefore, both individuals and societies need to reassess priorities and create structures that support happiness through social connections and mindfulness.

    • Yale students sought more than academic successThe class emphasized the importance of relationships, self-care, and gratitude for a balanced and meaningful life.

      The Yale University positive psychology class became popular due to a generation of successful students seeking fulfillment beyond academic and professional accomplishments. These students, having put in immense effort to reach Yale, felt a sense of emptiness and were looking for solutions. Laurie Santos' class offered insights into the importance of prioritizing relationships, self-care, and gratitude, resonating with students' desire for a more balanced and meaningful life. Santos' decision to make the course free likely contributed to its widespread reach. Ultimately, the class served as a reminder that success and happiness are not synonymous, and that focusing on personal growth and relationships can lead to greater overall fulfillment.

    • Money's Impact on Happiness and the Threshold for ContentmentBeyond a certain income level, additional money does not significantly increase happiness due to hedonic adaptation. Personal experiences and research suggest $75,000 as a threshold for contentment.

      While money can bring happiness up to a certain point, beyond a certain income level, additional money does not significantly increase happiness due to the phenomenon of hedonic adaptation. The speaker, a professor, shares his personal experience of living in different environments with varying attitudes towards money and the decision to provide his content for free, as he believes in making it accessible to everyone. He also emphasizes that they, as happiness experts, need to earn a living but can still practice what they preach. The Yale professor references the research by Deaton and Kahneman that identified $75,000 as the threshold for happiness, and the speaker acknowledges that he earns above that amount. He concludes by discussing hedonic adaptation, which shows that people get used to good things, including money and material possessions, and their happiness returns to baseline levels over time.

    • The human condition drives us to constantly desire more, even with substantial wealth.Human desire for more leads to dissatisfaction with current possessions, making experiences and personal growth more valuable for lasting happiness.

      Material possessions and wealth, while they can bring temporary happiness, often lead to a quick return to baseline. This is because humans have a tendency to get used to new circumstances and crave more, even when they are content with their current situation. This was highlighted in a podcast episode about wealth and happiness, featuring a wealth psychologist who works with individuals who are dissatisfied with their fortunes, despite having substantial wealth. The human condition seems to drive us to constantly desire more, even if it means being unhappy with what we currently have. This is why investing in experiences and personal growth, rather than material goods, can lead to lasting happiness. Despite this, there is still resistance to discussing spirituality and religion in the modern world, even for those who are data-driven and science-focused. However, it is important to recognize the value of ancient traditions and wisdom in understanding the human mind and seeking happiness.

    • Ancient wisdom and traditions for modern happinessGiving, rest, and playfulness contribute to happiness as per ancient wisdom. A lack of free time can negatively impact happiness as per modern research.

      Ancient wisdom and cultural traditions, as practiced in various spiritual and religious traditions like Judaism, Christianity, and Taoism, offer valuable insights for modern happiness. Giving money away to others can make us happier, as seen in religious traditions. The ancients also recognized the importance of taking a day off to rest, which is countercultural in today's work-heavy society. This idea of time affluence, or feeling wealthy in time, is crucial for happiness, and research suggests that a lack of free time can be as detrimental as unemployment. Additionally, Taoism emphasizes the importance of playfulness and going with the flow. These ancient practices, when combined with modern scientific research, can create a unique and valuable approach to happiness.

    • Cultivating a playful and flowing mindsetEmbracing a playful mindset can increase positive emotions, life satisfaction, and reduce suffering. Despite societal challenges, anyone can learn to let go of resistance and cultivate this mindset for a more fulfilling life.

      Embracing a playful and flowing mindset can lead to increased positive emotions, life satisfaction, and reduced suffering. This concept, inspired by the idea of going with the flow like water, encourages us to let go of resistance and allow things to be, rather than constantly pushing against the status quo. However, implementing this mindset in today's society can be challenging due to societal norms and expectations. Despite these challenges, it's important to remember that even those who teach happiness practices struggle with their own mental misconceptions and that it's a part of the human condition. Additionally, there is a genetic predisposition to happiness, and some individuals may naturally find it harder to choose positivity and sociality. Nevertheless, with effort and dedication, anyone can learn to cultivate a more playful and flowing mindset, leading to a more fulfilling and satisfying life.

    • Incorporating practices for social connection, presence, and gratitudeIncorporating practices for social connection, presence, and gratitude can lead to significant improvements, despite challenges in managing time effectively. Strategies like reframing saved time and creating a 'time confetti wish list' can help maximize time use.

      Even though increasing social connection, being present, and expressing gratitude don't come naturally to some people, incorporating these practices based on scientific evidence can lead to significant improvements. However, the speaker also faces the challenge of managing time effectively, especially during the ongoing pandemic when there are numerous opportunities for engagement. Time affluence, which is not about having more objective time but rather feeling that one has enough, can be achieved through strategies like reframing time saved from conveniences or creating a "time confetti wish list" to make the most of small pockets of free time.

    • Boost happiness with small pockets of free timeUse free time productively for personal activities, practice self-compassion, and prioritize self-care to improve happiness and resilience

      Making the most of small pockets of free time during uncertain and challenging times can significantly boost happiness. Ashley emphasizes the importance of using these brief windows productively for personal activities, rather than squeezing in more work or emails. Self-compassion is also crucial during these periods, as it's essential to recognize that negative emotions are normal and give oneself grace. Laurie's top advice for navigating uncertain times is to practice self-compassion and prioritize self-care, allowing wiggle room without guilt. By focusing on personal well-being and productivity during small time confetti moments, individuals can improve their overall happiness and resilience.

    • Exploring the Power of Knowledge and Positivity with LoriListen to Lori's free podcast for enriching conversations on spirituality, happiness, and ancient philosophies. Engage and leave positive reviews to spread the message.

      Lori is a remarkable woman who shares her knowledge about spiritual and ancient philosophies and religions through her podcast, while spreading happiness around the world. Her podcast episode on the Happiness Lab, dated April 5, is highly recommended. Lori's work is mostly done for free, making her a rare and valuable resource. Listeners are encouraged to find her content online, engage with her on social media, and leave positive reviews to help spread the message. Despite busy schedules, taking a few minutes to slow down and listen to such enriching conversations is worthwhile. Overall, Lori's work is a testament to the power of knowledge and positivity in making a difference in the world.

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    Paul Rudd goofing around to the Partridge Family in Ant Man and The Wasp: youtube.com/watch?v=LzXywwT9fI0
    The Worry About Yourself Video: youtu.be/4A6Bu96ALOw
    The Science of Well-Being course on Coursera: coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being
    Dr. Santos at the Aspen Ideas Festival: youtube.com/watch?v=ZizdB0TgAVM

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    64. Mo Gawdat on solving for happiness

    64. Mo Gawdat on solving for happiness

    We all want to be happy, but we may be trained to value success over happiness. How do we break the cycle to prioritize happiness in our own lives? The answer to solving for happiness might be clearer than you think. On this episode, Jen Fisher talks with Mo Gawdat, former Chief Business Officer of Google X, author of Solve for Happy and Scary Smart, engineer, and podcast host on how we can solve the equation to our own happiness from the perspective of an engineer.

    Dr. Robert Waldinger - A Harvard Study Reveals the Key to a Happy Life

    Dr. Robert Waldinger - A Harvard Study Reveals the Key to a Happy Life

    Today's guest is Dr. Robert Waldinger, the Harvard clinical psychiatrist, psychoanalyst and Zen priest who directs the Harvard Study of Adult Development, one of the longest-running studies of adult life ever done.

    You have probably heard of this groundbreaking study. It tracked the lives of two groups of men for over 75 years, and it continues to follow their Baby Boomer children to understand how childhood experience reaches across decades to affect health and wellbeing in middle age. The study revealed something we all seem to know intuitively: Close relationships, more than money or fame, are what keep people happy throughout their lives.

    Robert himself exudes the warmth and contentedness of man who took the results of this study to heart. His advice on building quality relationships and living a healthy and happy life will change your perspective on 'what really means something.'

    Listen as we discuss:

    • How Robert has been at Harvard since he was 18 years old
    • Why would a Harvard Professor end up as a Zen priest?
    • How learning the truth can be scary for some and exhilarating for others
    • How Zen forces us to ask: "What really means something?"
    • The meaning of Zen: being present for your life, and avoiding a "spiritual bypass"
    • Robert's burning desire to ensure he does not sleepwalk through life, like many of us
    • How time slows down when you've become more present for your life
    • My own half-monk project and creating mini-silent retreats
    • How being in life is the ultimate test of a spiritual practice
    • That meditation doesn't work for everyone, but music and art can
    • The history of the Harvard Study of Adult Development and its enlightening results
    • How relationships change us biologically and affect our health
    • Robert's advice on how to build quality relationships: "Invest"

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    Bouncing Back with Laurie Santos

    Bouncing Back with Laurie Santos

    Happiness is not a destination. According to Dr. Laurie Santos – host of The Happiness Lab podcast, and professor of a popular class on happiness at Yale University – happiness is a journey that comes with many roadblocks. Whether you call it flourishing, contentment, or just plain joy, the key to finding it involves rolling up your sleeves and getting to work. With rates of anxiety and depression skyrocketing among young people, Dr. Santos sheds much-needed light on ways that we can adjust our own expectations about happiness, and offer constructive support to the people who need it most. She also clarifies the unexpected role that resilience plays along the path: the stronger we become, the more we’re capable of post-traumatic growth

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    Crash Course on Happiness

    Crash Course on Happiness

    The number of college students dealing with stress, depression, and anxiety is growing. Psychology professor Laurie Santos noticed it in her Yale classroom and set out to change the campus culture. Her course “Psychology and the Good Life” is the most popular class in Yale’s 300-year history. In this episode, she talks about her efforts to infuse wellness into her students’ lives. She gives a crash course on how to feel less stressed and depressed, and find more meaning in your life. It’s applicable to everyone—whether you’re an undergraduate or a retiree.

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