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    Eddie Izzard on World War I, cake or death, and marathoning

    enJuly 11, 2017

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    • Managing currencies with Wise vs. enjoying a conversation with Eddie IzzardWise provides a cost-effective and convenient solution for managing currencies with real-time exchange rates and no hidden fees. Eddie Izzard shares his life experiences, creative process, and political ambitions in an entertaining episode of The Ezra Klein Show.

      Wise offers a convenient and cost-effective solution for managing and converting currencies, whether it's for sending money to family abroad or traveling internationally. With real-time exchange rates and no hidden fees, Wise is a wise choice for those looking to navigate the complexities of international finance. Meanwhile, on a different note, Eddie Izzard, the renowned comedian, shares his life experiences, creative process, and political ambitions in a candid and entertaining episode of The Ezra Klein Show. From running marathons for charity to discussing his love of history and comedy, Eddie Izzard offers a unique perspective on life and art. So whether you're looking to manage your money or simply enjoy some thought-provoking conversation, these resources have got you covered.

    • Running transforms through health, adventure, and growthRunning improves health, offers adventure, and provides opportunities for personal growth and fundraising. Stay active, find inspiration, and push through discomfort to keep moving.

      Running, especially long distances, can be a transformative experience that improves health, provides adventure, and offers opportunities for personal growth and fundraising. The speaker shares his own experience of running marathons, starting as a way to regain his health and leading him to various challenges and causes. He emphasizes the importance of staying active, drawing inspiration from wild animals and the natural world, and pushing through discomfort to keep moving. The speaker also mentions his diverse career in comedy, politics, and acting, suggesting that having multiple interests can help keep long-distance running interesting and prevent boredom.

    • A pivotal century for humanity: fair chance or destruction?The speaker believes this century could be a turning point for humanity, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing people's well-being over power.

      According to the speaker, this century is a pivotal moment for humanity. We have the potential to make it a time where all 7 billion people have a fair chance in life, or we risk destroying ourselves due to extreme hatreds and separatist politics. The speaker expresses concern about the current political climate and feels a connection between his experiences in the UK and the US, particularly with figures like Al Franken. He believes that Democrats and the Labor Party focus on making lives better for people, while Republicans and conservatives prioritize being in power. The speaker's personal journey, including his thoughts on the universe and Nelson Mandela's life, have led him to these conclusions.

    • Navigating the complexities of politicsUnderstanding moral motivations and potential consequences, discerning truth amidst lies, and practicing empathy are essential skills for navigating the complexities of politics.

      The political landscape can be complex, with individuals and groups holding strong convictions that may not align with the greater good. The Tea Party movement in the US, for instance, believed they were protecting freedom by obstructing President Obama's agenda, but their actions ultimately hindered progress. This tension between moral motivations and the potential negative consequences of policies or actions is a challenging aspect of politics. The rise of alternative facts and lies further complicates matters, making it difficult to discern truth and navigate the political sphere. The recent British election served as a reminder that even expected outcomes can be upended, highlighting the intricacy and emotional nature of politics. Ultimately, it's crucial for individuals to strive for empathy, understanding, and truth in the face of moral dilemmas and political complexities.

    • Brexit: A Power Grab Gone WrongThe Brexit referendum was not just about leaving the EU, but a power grab that led to false promises and a divided country. Trust in your abilities and take action towards your goals using the concept of borrowing confidence from your future self.

      The Brexit referendum was not about leaving the European Union for the sake of the country, but rather a power grab that backfired. The leave campaign made promises, such as an additional £350 million a week for the National Health Service, which turned out to be false. The country is now split down the middle, and many people are questioning the lack of a clear plan for Brexit. During this discussion, we also touched upon the speaker's background and how he aspired to join the Cambridge Footlights, a famous comedy sketch group. However, he couldn't attend due to financial reasons and instead went to Sheffield University. Determined to go to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, he was met with disappointment when he learned that no one went there to be discovered. He then decided to take a chance and go himself, which led him to start his comedy career. The concept of borrowing confidence from one's future self was introduced, which the speaker used to motivate himself to pursue his dream despite the challenges he faced. This idea can be applied to various situations, encouraging individuals to trust in their abilities and take action towards their goals.

    • Borrowing confidence from the futureAssuming success can help individuals overcome challenges and achieve their goals, even in uncertain situations. Persistence, adaptability, and audience engagement are crucial skills for success in unpredictable environments.

      Borrowing confidence from the future can help individuals achieve their goals, even if they don't have all the resources or knowledge required at the moment. The speaker drew inspiration from America's successful moon landing and applied it to his own situation by assuming he had already taken a show to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival and acting accordingly. Street performing presented unique challenges, as performers had to capture the attention of passersby and convince them to stop and watch. The speaker learned valuable lessons from this experience, including the importance of persistence, adaptability, and the ability to engage and entertain audiences in any situation.

    • Building Confidence for Creative SuccessLearn to be interesting and confident, even in thin crowds or harsh criticism, to overcome social rejection and succeed in the entertainment industry. Developing resilience, confidence, and adaptability is crucial for creative pursuits.

      Developing and maintaining confidence is crucial for overcoming social rejection and succeeding in the entertainment industry. The speaker, a comedian, shared her experiences of performing on the streets of Edinburgh and learning to captivate audiences despite initial failure and rejection. She emphasized the importance of being interesting and confident, even when facing thin crowds or harsh criticism. The speaker also discussed her background as a shy kid and how she developed confidence and layers of interestingness to mask her base level of shyness. She noted that comedians can be quiet off stage, but must give their all during performances, and that finding a balance between public and private performance can be challenging. Overall, the speaker's experiences highlight the importance of resilience, confidence, and adaptability in the face of social rejection and the pursuit of creative goals.

    • Exploring the Art of Performing and CreatingThe interviewee emphasizes the importance of entertaining oneself during performances, using previews to test and adjust material, and embracing a flexible work in progress approach. They also highlight the role of technology in facilitating global financial transactions.

      Performing on stage can leave a performer feeling both energized and exhausted at the same time. For the interviewee, the key to a successful performance is the ability to entertain oneself. The creative process behind writing jokes involves a work in progress approach, with previews being an essential part of the routine. These previews allow the performer to test material and make adjustments, ensuring a polished final product. The process is not rigidly routine, but rather a flexible work in progress. The use of technology, such as Wise, can help manage financial transactions in different currencies, making it easier for individuals and businesses to send and receive money globally. Overall, the interviewee's approach to performing and creating is a testament to the importance of experimentation, adaptation, and the ability to find joy in the process.

    • Exploring the Unexpected in ComedyComedian Jim Carrey finds the best comedic ideas through openness, improvisation, and exploring unexpected observations, like dogs barking due to uncertainty.

      Comedian and performer Jim Carrey approaches his comedy by being open to inspiration in the moment, even if it starts with seemingly random ideas or observations. He finds that the best comedic ideas often come to him while he's performing and improvising on stage. Carrey calls this process "verbal sculpting," where he shapes and refines his ideas each time he performs. He shared an example of how a simple observation about dogs barking led him to develop a comedic bit. Dogs, he noted, bark in response to uncertainty, and he found this behavior amusing and worth exploring further. Carrey also shared that he has two dogs that bark a lot to manage their own uncertainty, and he drew a comparison between their behavior and human behavior. He emphasized that horses, too, can be spooked by anything and react with fear, making them like "enormous dogs." Overall, Carrey's approach to comedy is one of openness, adaptability, and a willingness to explore the unexpected.

    • The Absurdity of Religious ExtremismReligious extremism has led to senseless violence throughout history, emphasizing the importance of unity and peace over division and violence.

      Throughout history, religious extremism has led to destructive and violent actions. Using the example of religious conflicts in Europe, where Protestants and Catholics were persecuted for their beliefs, the speaker reflects on the absurdity of the violence and the idea that it boiled down to a choice between "tea and cake or death." He then discusses how he came up with this concept through improvisational exercises and how it relates to his comedy influenced by Monty Python. In essence, the speaker is emphasizing the absurdity and senselessness of religious extremism and the importance of embracing unity and peace over division and violence.

    • Understanding History for a Better FutureLearn from the past, eliminate negativity, and accentuate the positive to create a better future. Understand historical patterns and use them to navigate the present and future, while ensuring technological advancements benefit everyone.

      History, societal changes, and technological advancements have a significant impact on shaping the future. While humanity has a history of repeating good and bad actions, it's essential to focus on the positive and work towards creating a world where everyone has an equal opportunity to thrive. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding history and recognizing patterns to navigate the present and future. For instance, the practice of human sacrifice, which was a common occurrence in various parts of the world, shows how humans have used fear and power to control each other throughout history. However, there have also been individuals who have brought about positive change, such as Nelson Mandela, Mohandas Gandhi, and Mother Teresa. To move forward, it's crucial to learn from the past, eliminate negativity, and accentuate the positive. The speaker also mentions the potential dangers of technological advancements and the importance of ensuring that they are used for the betterment of all 7 billion people on Earth.

    • People and behaviors remain consistent throughout historyDespite advancements in technology, communication, and geopolitical systems, human nature and behavior patterns have remained relatively unchanged for thousands of years

      Despite the vast changes in technology, communication, and geopolitical systems throughout human history, people and their behaviors remain remarkably consistent. This was discussed in the conversation, where it was suggested that if we were to take a person from today and place them in a cave 10,000 years ago, they would still find a mix of sharp and not-so-sharp individuals, with some standing out as wise leaders. This idea challenges the notion that the world around us is constantly changing us, and instead suggests that our fundamental nature as humans has remained relatively unchanged for thousands of years. This idea was further explored in the context of determinism and the idea that human behavior types emerge in any era, despite the different tools and systems available to people. The conversation also touched on the challenges of navigating a globalized world, where our actions can have far-reaching consequences, yet we are built for smaller, tribal communities. Overall, the conversation highlighted the enduring nature of human beings and the persistence of similar behavior patterns throughout history.

    • Navigating Complex Issues in a Rapidly Changing WorldUnderstanding the depth and complexity of issues and recognizing the need for nuanced solutions is crucial in today's rapidly changing world.

      The rapid pace of technological and societal change over the last 200 years has made navigating complex issues, such as politics and identity, increasingly challenging. The speaker reflects on the exponential growth of technology and the impact it has had on our lives, noting that the ease of access to information and constant connectivity comes with both benefits and drawbacks. He also emphasizes the importance of recognizing the complexity of issues and the need for nuanced solutions, rather than succumbing to simplistic or extreme politics. A personal anecdote about his father's confirmation of his gender identity during a documentary further underscores the importance of understanding the depth and complexity of individual experiences. Overall, the speaker encourages a thoughtful and nuanced approach to understanding the world around us, acknowledging the challenges but also the opportunities that come with rapid change.

    • Understanding the Complexity of Gender IdentityGenetics, societal pressures, and personal identity interplay in shaping one's gender expression and experience. Self-reflection is crucial for acceptance and understanding.

      The speaker, a transgender comedian, believes that her genetic makeup influences her desire to wear makeup, heels, and skirts, and that this was reinforced when she watched a documentary about her life that revealed subconscious motivations. The speaker initially tried to use comedy to address her gender identity, but later came to accept the need for self-analysis. She became the first transgender person many people saw and recognized, and came out publicly when she felt her career was being threatened due to her gender expression. The documentary helped her understand her motivations better, and she came to accept the importance of self-reflection. The speaker's experiences highlight the complex interplay of genetics, societal pressures, and personal identity in shaping one's gender expression and experience.

    • Navigating the complexities of gender identityGender identity is personal and doesn't fit neatly into societal categories. Recognize and respect the complexity and individuality of gender expression.

      Gender identity is a complex and personal experience that doesn't always fit neatly into societal categories. The speaker, a comedian and performer, shares their experience of navigating gender expression in America and the confusion it sometimes caused. They explain the concept of "girl mode" and "boy mode" as a way of describing different presentations of gender, which isn't necessarily tied to day or period. The speaker also challenges the obsession with defining and separating men and women, using the example of animals who don't make such distinctions. The speaker also discusses the concept of an "executive transvestite," which they came up with as a way to challenge stereotypes about transvestites. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of recognizing and respecting the complexity and individuality of gender identity.

    • Recognizing and valuing people's multifaceted identitiesUnderstanding and accepting people for their various roles and professions, rather than reducing them to one characteristic, is crucial for tolerance and acceptance.

      Reducing people to one aspect of their identity is limiting and harmful. As discussed, the ability to showcase the multifaceted nature of a person can lead to greater understanding and acceptance. This was exemplified by the speaker's experience of humanizing himself to Hungarian extras by speaking their language. The importance of this was further emphasized by the progress made in acknowledging and accepting the LGBT+ community, where people are recognized for their various roles and professions rather than just their sexuality. This concept of being seen as a multifaceted person, rather than being reduced to one characteristic, is a form of privilege that is often overlooked. It's crucial to remember that people have many dimensions and that tolerance and acceptance involve recognizing and valuing these different aspects. The speaker's personal journey of coming out in 1985, before there were many resources and support systems, highlights the importance of self-confidence and the belief in one's own worth.

    • Expressing true identity and societal expectationsExpressing one's true identity, despite societal pressures, can lead to personal growth and progress in transgender rights.

      Expressing one's true identity and defying societal expectations can lead to personal growth and progress in the larger societal conversation around transgender rights and representation. The speaker shares her journey of coming out in 1985, dealing with the challenges of expressing her feminine side while also reclaiming her masculine side, and finding solace in activities like marathon running. She reflects on the significant strides made in transgender rights since the 1980s, crediting the work of the lesbian and gay community and the visibility of transgender figures like Caitlyn Jenner and Laverne Cox. The speaker's own approach to coming out was not overtly activist but focused on pursuing her career and living authentically. She also shares the inspiring story of Georgina Beyer, a transgender woman who became a New Zealand MP after facing discrimination. Overall, the speaker's experiences highlight the importance of individual expression and the role it can play in advancing the larger societal conversation around transgender rights.

    • Differences in US and UK ComedyThe UK comedy audience may seem more sophisticated, but the US allowed niches to emerge earlier, paving the way for alternative comedy. Perceptions of success can differ, but comedians like Patrice O'Neal, Jerry Seinfeld, Harry Enfield, and Steve Coogan inspire with their unique, offbeat work.

      The differences between doing comedy and entertainment in the US and the UK are minimal. The UK comedy audience may be perceived as more sophisticated, but the US allowed niches to emerge earlier, with shows like Saturday Night Live and Monty Python paving the way for alternative comedy. However, the UK TV system didn't provide a window for alternative comedy to thrive until more cable systems came into being. When the interviewee came to America, they were told their work wouldn't succeed, but it did and became mainstream, despite being perceived as alternative. The interviewee considers themselves a hybrid between mainstream and alternative, having been influenced by mainstream comedy as a child but seeking something more offbeat. They admire comedians like Patrice O'Neal, Jerry Seinfeld, Harry Enfield, and Steve Coogan for their unique, off-the-wall work.

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