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    Episode 124 ADHD & Borderline Personality Disorder

    enAugust 21, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding ADHD: Personal Experiences and EmpathyFrustration, misunderstandings, and curiosity were themes in a discussion about living with ADHD. Empathy and understanding are crucial for individuals with ADHD and their loved ones.

      The discussion between James and Dr. Alex Connor, as well as James' interaction with Missus ADHD, touched upon various topics including personal experiences, empathy, and misunderstandings. James expressed frustration towards Dr. Connor's delivery and their past interactions, while Missus ADHD questioned James' perception of her personality. They also discussed the impact of technology on podcast metrics and the history of educational support for individuals with learning difficulties. James shared his curiosity about his family background and the origins of the Idiots Act in the UK. Overall, the conversation showcased the unique dynamics and challenges of living with ADHD and the importance of understanding and empathy.

    • The Transition of a Video from RSD to Spotify and the Roles of Team MembersThe podcast episode discussed the transition of a video from RSD to Spotify, showcasing admiration for team members' roles, including the tech guy, script guy, and stats guy. The hosts also shared their personal reflections on ADHD and BPD, providing psychoeducation and expressing views on the controversial term 'borderline personality disorder'.

      The podcast discussion centered around the transition of a video from RSD to Spotify, expressing admiration for the content and the roles of various team members, including the tech guy, script guy, and stats guy. The conversation also touched upon the potential expansion of the podcast to new countries, with a humorous mention of Thailand. The podcast hosts also shared their personal reflections on ADHD and borderline personality disorder (BPD), expressing their views on the controversial term "borderline personality disorder" and providing psychoeducation on personality disorders. The episode concluded with a commitment to addressing listener suggestions and a reminder of the structure of the podcast, which includes evidence-based information, psychoeducation, personal reflections, and serious discussion. Despite some technical difficulties, the hosts maintained a lighthearted and engaging tone throughout the episode.

    • Patterns of instability and hypersensitivity define BPDBorderline personality disorder is characterized by emotional instability, fear of abandonment, impulsivity, and intense shame, leading to challenging relationships and feelings of isolation

      Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a mental health condition characterized by instability in interpersonal relationships, self image, and emotions, as well as impulsivity. People with BPD often fear abandonment and can make frantic efforts to avoid it, sometimes resorting to suicidal gestures or other extreme behaviors. They can also experience intense anger, which can lead to abuse and shame. The DSM-5, a standard reference manual for mental health professionals, defines BPD by these patterns of instability and hypersensitivity. People with BPD can change their view of others quickly, leading to disillusionment and anger. They may struggle with controlling their emotions and can experience intense shame and guilt after an outburst. These symptoms can make relationships challenging and lead to feelings of isolation and loneliness. Understanding these patterns can help in providing effective support and care for individuals with BPD.

    • Understanding Borderline Personality Disorder: Symptoms, Causes, and PrevalenceBorderline Personality Disorder is a complex mental condition with symptoms including mood swings, impulsivity, self-sabotage, dissociation, and paranoia. It's influenced by genetics and early childhood trauma, affects approximately 1.6% of the population, and can be misdiagnosed with ADHD due to overlapping impulsivity.

      Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) is a complex condition characterized by mood swings, impulsivity, self-sabotage, dissociation, and paranoia. These symptoms can significantly disrupt an individual's life and relationships. The disorder is influenced by both genetic and environmental factors, with early childhood trauma being a common theme. Prevalence rates vary, but approximately 1.6% of the population may experience BPD in a given year. It's important to note that not everyone with BPD experiences symptoms all the time, and many find relief as they age or as their life circumstances change. While the exact causes of BPD are not fully understood, research suggests that a combination of genetic predisposition and environmental stressors may be involved. It's also worth mentioning that BPD and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) can overlap, making diagnosis challenging. Women are more likely to be misdiagnosed with ADHD when they actually have BPD. The impulsivity seen in both conditions can make differentiating between them difficult.

    • Connection between ADHD and BPDApprox. 14% of childhood ADHD cases develop BPD, vs. 26% in general population. Diagnosis challenges and importance of accurate identification for effective treatment.

      There is a significant connection between Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), with some individuals having both conditions having the highest ratings for impulsivity and emotional dysregulation. The diagnosis of these conditions can be challenging, and it's estimated that approximately 14% of people with an ADHD diagnosis in childhood eventually receive a BPD diagnosis, compared to 26% in the general population. This situation highlights the complexities and challenges in psychiatric diagnosis and the importance of accurate identification for effective treatment. People with ADHD and potential BPD often share symptoms that can resemble each other, leading to misdiagnosis and confusion. The different treatments for each condition further emphasize the importance of proper diagnosis.

    • The Complexity of Neurodivergent ConditionsMisdiagnosis can occur between different neurodivergent conditions and ongoing research is necessary for accurate understanding and acceptance.

      The distinction between different neurodivergent conditions, such as ADHD and borderline personality disorder, can be complex and nuanced. The speaker shared a personal experience of misdiagnosing a friend with ADHD when they might have had borderline personality disorder. This incident highlighted the potential for misdiagnosis and the need for continued exploration and understanding of these conditions. The speaker also noted that as medical knowledge evolves, so do diagnoses and classifications. Conditions that were once considered distinct may later be found to share commonalities and overlap. The speaker expressed uncertainty about whether borderline personality disorder should be considered a separate class of neurodivergence or a branch of it, and acknowledged the importance of ongoing research and dialogue in this area. The speaker expressed empathy for individuals diagnosed with neurodivergent conditions, recognizing the challenges they face and the importance of creating a supportive and understanding environment for them. They emphasized the importance of continuing to learn and engage in open and respectful conversations about neurodivergence to promote greater understanding and acceptance.

    • Subjectivity of Psychiatric DiagnosesPsychiatric diagnoses are subjective and can change over time. Focus on understanding and addressing underlying causes rather than labeling individuals.

      Psychiatric diagnoses, including those for personality disorders, are subjective and can change over time due to revisions in diagnostic manuals like the DSM. These manuals provide guidelines for doctors to diagnose and treat conditions based on reported experiences and observed symptoms. However, the validity and usefulness of these labels can be debated, especially when it comes to conditions like ADHD, which some argue are better understood as neurological disorders rather than personality traits. Ultimately, the goal should be to focus on understanding and addressing the underlying causes and challenges faced by individuals, rather than labeling them with stigmatizing diagnoses.

    • Early experiences of love and compassion shape behaviorLove and compassion from childhood can influence choices and behavior, even with challenges like ADHD, and their absence can lead to a need for connection

      Early experiences of love and compassion can significantly influence an individual's behavior and choices, even in the face of personal struggles or neurological disorders. The speaker shares their personal experience of growing up with ADHD and being surrounded by a loving family, which led them to choose compassion over narcissism and pain. They also emphasize that the absence of love and compassion can make one more inclined towards drawing people towards oneself, as a way to feel less alone. The discussion also touches upon the impact of media, such as books and films, in shaping our understanding of the world. Lastly, a light-hearted quiz about hoovering was included in the conversation.

    • Mental health, societal stigmas, and seeking helpRecognize behaviors and feelings, men should not shy away from seeking help, mental health matters, and support is vital for personal growth and well-being.

      It's essential to acknowledge and accept that mental health issues, including borderline personality disorder, are not a choice and seeking help is not a sign of weakness. The conversation touched upon the importance of recognizing one's behaviors and feelings, especially for men, who may feel hesitant to seek help due to societal stigmas. The discussion also highlighted the inspiring example of Gabby Logan, who, despite having a mental health condition, excelled in her career. The new features on Bumble aim to make online dating safer, easier, and more effective in finding compatible matches. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that mental health matters, and seeking help and support is crucial for personal growth and well-being.

    • Men, particularly aged 45-49, face higher suicide risk due to societal pressuresEncourage open conversations about mental health, seek help for conditions like BPD, and create safe spaces for support

      Men, particularly those aged 45 to 49, face a higher risk for suicide due to societal pressures to hide emotions and appear strong. It's crucial for friends and loved ones to support each other and create safe spaces for open conversations about mental health issues, including borderline personality disorder. If you suspect you may have this condition, speak to your doctor for assessment and potential treatment options, such as dialectical behavioral therapy. Don't be ashamed of seeking help, as these conditions are not a choice and can significantly impact your life. Encouraging open dialogue and understanding can help reduce feelings of isolation and improve overall mental well-being for both the person dealing with the condition and their support system.

    • Seeking help for BPD involves addressing root causes and focusing on personal growthIf you have BPD, focus on personal growth and addressing root causes, rather than trying to change others' behavior.

      If you have a BPD diagnosis and feel uncertain about it, consider seeking help from a new psychiatrist. BPD is not a disorder that belongs to others; it's a part of your personality. It may be a result of environmental neglect combined with a genetic predisposition to mental health issues. When seeking help, ensure you're addressing the root cause of your concerns, rather than trying to change others' behavior. People cannot be changed against their will, but you can influence them to change. Focus on developing your own emotional intelligence and compassion skills, as these are essential for positive relationships. Remember, the only things you can truly control are your reactions and how others perceive you. This was discussed in episode 124 of the ADHD Adults Podcast, where the topic was ADHD and Borderline Personality Disorder. If you found this episode enjoyable, consider supporting the ADHDSupport UK charity.

    • A round fort on Clay Hill and playful debatesDiscovering historical facts, crowdsourcing insults, and discussing social media trends led to an engaging and insightful conversation.

      During our conversation, we touched upon various topics including history, insults, and social media. Specifically, we learned about a round fort on Clay Hill where Robert from Kidderminster was born, which was believed to have been used to deter foreign invaders. However, it was pointed out that these fort structures are not spherical, which sparked a playful debate. Moving forward, I shared that I am now crowdsourcing insults for someone named Alex from my ADHD coaching clients, suggesting that even seemingly trivial tasks can be productive. Lastly, we discussed the potential demise of Twitter and other social media platforms. Overall, this conversation showcased a mix of history, humor, and insight into everyday life.

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    Championing Inclusive Education with Dr. Rachael Zeleny

    Championing Inclusive Education with Dr. Rachael Zeleny
    (0:00:00) - Education, Learning Styles, and Degrees
    Dr Rachael Zeleny is a wife, mother, teacher, and artist running for school board, with ADHD and impressive degrees, challenging the "smart kid" narrative and dedicating herself to helping students succeed.

    (0:08:50) - Issues With Standardized Testing and Learning
    Standardized testing has become an efficacy problem, causing anxiety and limiting writing skills development, highlighting the need for alternative assessment methods.

    (0:16:23) - Teaching Empathy Through Bite-Sized Assignments
    I discuss shorter texts, engaging teenagers in reading, empathy in the workplace, and how the pandemic has impacted teaching.

    (0:23:31) - Investing in School Support Staff
    Investing in additional support staff in the classroom impacts teacher-student ratio, relationships, discipline, engagement, and authority figures.

    (0:37:11) - Student Engagement and Political Cross Filing
    We discuss Baltimore's impact on education, the importance of a diverse student body, and investing in support staff during the pandemic.

    (0:44:45) - School Board Elections and Affiliations
    We discuss cross-filing candidacy, impartiality, and the impact of a murder trial on my campaign.

    (0:52:55) - Investing in Education for Future Teachers
    We focus on career advancement, creating childcare opportunities, cross-age tutoring, and supporting mental health.

    (0:58:42) - Teacher Retention and Social Emotional Learning
    We discussed diverse teaching, social-emotional learning, rhetoric, and the primary election.

    Episode 116 Does Mild ADHD Exist?

    Episode 116 Does Mild ADHD Exist?

    In Episode 116,  The ADHD Adults discuss 'sub-threshold' or 'mild' ADHD, a new(ish) area of research which suggests that not quite having the number of symptoms needed to meet the threshold for a diagnosis might be a mild form of ADHD. As usual, Alex the Psycho.......education Monkey monotonously vomits about the 'evidence' on the subject, all three ADHD Adults give their personal reflections on 'mild ADHD' and provide some ludicrously named 'top tips' on the topic.  'What has James lost, forgotten or mislaid this week?" returns with Alex annoyingly still in the lead, and Alex reads the usual 'definitely real' correspondence. Mrs ADHD leaves a gap, James can’t do sums and Alex hates how good Mrs ADHD is…


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    Depression, meditation and coping with your emotions. | Health Potion Ep 1

    Depression, meditation and coping with your emotions. | Health Potion Ep 1
    Battling with a mental/physical health condition that can make life difficult? You are not alone. You are NEVER alone. Join a community of gamers who deal with depression, anxiety, BDP, Bipolar, antisocial behavior and many more health strains. We chat about our own personal experiences with mental health and how gaming has helped us.

     

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